Caylee/Casey Anthony Case EXCLUSIVE: New Prosecution Witness Sean Henady
Indiana– Last Wednesday, attorney for Texas Equusearch, Mark Nejame, released a few aerial images that in their opinion prove that the area where 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthony was under water at the time of the last search.
Today, in newly released discovery by the State’s Attorney’s Office, we see the aerial imagery expert responsible for that footage makes the witness list for the prosecution.
Sean Henady, tapped personally by TES founder Tim Miller, spoke exclusively today to blinkoncrime. This will be his only statement regarding the Caylee Anthony case until it’s conclusion.
In August and again in November of 2008, my services were requested by Texas Equusearch for aerial mapping in their efforts to locate missing toddler Caylee Anthony. In November only, my participation expanded to asissting with coordination of the search effort on the ground.
The complete case file, which includes information and Imagery from my office, has been provided to both the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and the defense counsel for Casey Marie Anthony as mandated by the discovery process. Every Image from my office was marked “Confidential Not For Public Distribution.”
Sean Henady, President Aerial Image Corp, 3 View Technologies
Henady, together with 12 year missing persons veteran and former director of Missing and Exploited Childrens program Mandy Albritton, recently co-founded 3 View Search Services.
3 View, a non profit organization, is a premier law enforcement support vehicle to provide resources and assets to emergency services teams and to facilitate search and recovery efforts.
Currently, 3VSS resources are only available at the request of the law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction in a missing persons case. 3VSS is chaired by former Congressman Nick Lampson, founder of The Missing and Exploited Childrens caucus in Washington, DC. Leonard “Len” Wilson is the organizations Chief Executive Officer.
Henady and his team of imaging experts worked extensively on the Stacy Peterson , Brittanee Drexel, and Corrie Anderson cases
In 2005, missing Indianna man Charles Ricky was located exclusively by Henady’s aerial images taken over a quarry he was ultimately recovered in.
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this is just an opinion question: do you all think that Casey’s fingerprints were found on the ducttape?
Boz post 43. Just playing devils advocate here ( again I like to keep the scales balanced) If someone were trying to frame Casey this would have been the perfect place to pick. Not to far from her home but not in her back yard either. Easy access from the street.
Further comment re: coffin flies. I googled that as soon as I read the word in the e mail. This fly only consumes older dead bodies. After they have dried out. Not in the early stages (2.6 days) so these probably turned out to be the normal fruit flies that they thought in the first place. They like garbage. I always see them around outdoor trash recepticles.
The tattoo
Casey did confirm to Lee during his July 25 jail visit that her “La Bella Vita” tattoo was Caylee-related.
Casey’s defense team did not offer any objection whatsoever to the photograph of Casey’s La Bella Vita tattoo, so they must believe they have a winning explanation for it. Maybe they plan to say Casey got the tattoo as an oath or pledge that when the kidnapper’s returned Caylee to her, Casey would be sure Caylee enjoyed a beautiful life and that by branding herself with that pledge, Casey was affirming her intent to get Caylee back or whatever.
The prosecution will argue that Casey got the tattoo as a memorial to her dead daughter, and they can pull up Casey’s June 26, 2008 Photobucket downloads in support of that contention because the images Casey downloaded that day included an image of the words “La Vita Bella” in fancy script, the Apple of Death, and kissing skeletons. That particular combination of images is going to win the jury over to the prosecution’s theory.
Also, Casey got that tattoo the day after she created the Diary of Days document:
Diary of Days
On the worst of worst days,
Remember the words spoken.
Trust no one,
Only yourself.
With great power,
Comes great consequence.
What is given,
Can be taken away.
Everyone lies.
Everyone dies.
Life will never be easy.
On the worst of worst days,
Remember the words spoken.
Hold your head high.
Laugh.
Smile.
Love unconditionally.
Tomorrow is a brand new day.
She didn’t post the Diary of Days until July 7, but she wrote it on July 2.
todd
I think her fingerprints were on the tape truly!
#53
If the defense would even consider that avenue, that she got the tattoo as her intent to get Caylee back, then they truly have no logical defense and they may as well attempt to plea with the state right now
If the fingerprints are on the ducttape that was found at the crime scene, wrapped around her head, then every detour or conjured up theory is pointless. Regardless if Baez considers it to be “junk science”, he’s not the expert in that field, so his opinion to that part of the matter is irrelevant and a waste of time
todd, there are probably still ways to explain casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape. She lost a roll of it she had borrowed from Amy, maybe Zanny is the one who stole it, and it still had her prints on a piece of it. Or Zanny stole the tape from the Ant’s garage, and casey’s prints were innocently on it from some household use. Or the cops planted the prints on the tape.
Maura, re this: “Casey did confirm to Lee during his July 25 jail visit that her “La Bella Vita” tattoo was Caylee-related.”
How do ya’ know when to believe Casey, and how do ya’ know when she’s tellin’ tales?
Suz….are you suggesting she’s told the truth about something? I can’t think of anything Crazy has said that has been the truth….. I think the conglomeration of all the evidence against her is going to be overwhelming when we finally get to hear it. JMHO
And, BTW……someone else’s fingerprints would be on the duct tape too if any of the scenerios in #57 comment were true. And, to suggest the cops planted prints on the tape is just lame. But, wouldn’t surprise me for something like that to come from Bozo and the Ream Team.
Oh Lily if that is true ( holdouts being put under a public microscope) no one will want to sit on this jury.
Michigan Fan, Cindy has already told them why she washed the pants.
She said ” because they smelled like the car” Its already out there and on record.
Hi Maura- 53- I remember reading somewhere that those were the words to a Lindsay Lohan song. I cannot confirm ( I’m 52 and Lindsay is not my kind of music)
Suz 48- That looks like a dept description. You find them on all public office web sites. It tells you what dept does what job. Were you connecting that content to this particular case? If there was any ransom note we have not been privy to its existance.
Blink – Who is Steven Perry, Sr.? I noticed the clerk’s office website lists a fax from him that has been filed in Casey’s case. Something similar to this was listed on one of the other case files for her in late 2008. Google searches bring up an Orlando business man and also a photographer who does strange nude photos. Are either of these the guy and how does it relate to this case? Also found brief blurb from 08 on Scared Monkey’s about him giving money to the Anthony’s. Is he Casey’s benefactor? Or am I completely off track?
oops sorry Suz just re-read your opening statement. Its late.
Where did you see that this unit was employed in this case? Have to go read that. Perhaps this is just SOP and means nothing or perhaps to ensure defense does not claim document forgery.
Todd 55 I doubt that would be their entire defense. Just something to debunk that one piece of evidence. Show Casey has a human caring side.
The evidence in this case will be picked apart and each piece will have a corrosponding defense explaination. Lots of long long hours going over every little detail of every little thing. Remember the OJ case. You could be watching, leave go out to dinner and come back and they’re still going over the same piece of evidence.
What I don’t understand is how Baez and company can state they have “evidence” to prove KC’s innocence but yet they won’t say what it is. Furthermore, given KC’s previous demeanor, why SHE herself wouldn’t be demanding that they take that “evidence” to Strickland to get her released NOW and not wait it out until June 2010 or whenever the trial may actually begin… Baez isn’t Matlock for heaven sake! You would think that she would want to get back to her La Bella Vita lifestyle asap (except she’d have to start over in some other country,where no one knew who she was lol). I mean we all know they don’t have such evidence but why Strickland didn’t stop them in their tracks last week and ask what this evidence is is beyond me…. Blink? any ideas on why Strickland let that go? Or is it because he knows they are just blowing smoke? This case is captivating but frustrating at the same time!
Well my post wasn’t to argue the obvious that Casey got the tattoo – or what it means. I mean it is subjective and open to interpretation by the prosecution and the defense and unless she somehow becomes a truth teller and confesses everything – we will NEVER know.
I was more wondering about the hour or so that it took to take her from her cell (or in her cell); get her top off and substitute it with something strapless or pull her bra strap away and highlight and photograph her back shoulder and the tattoo. She had to be 1) humiliated 2) realizing how ridiculous it would be for someone in her situation to get a tattoo that said “le bella vita” 3) her first interaction with LE for a year (i.e., her first interaction with someone NOT on her side for a year) 4) how could it not stir up some doubt about her ability to pull of the miracle ‘innocent defendant’ of the century?
I never implied that she wasn’t promiscuous when she was free – I’m just saying that for a year she’s been covered from neck to toe. Now suddenly she doesn’t have control over having to strip her top half to have photos taken of a tattoo that she had scratched into her skin while her baby was missing and possibly in dire straits and she and her family were in ‘grave danger’.
Q: Is that why she suddenly appeared so wrecked at the hearing?
Todd- Jose Baez’ opinion won’t be on trial and you’re right it is irrelavant. What is very relavant is public opinion of this particular technology. Fingerprints were at one time thought to be junk science and were for a time inadmissable in a court of law. The average man on the street will either accept this wholley just because it is presented to them by authority or wont accept it because they dont understand it. Again remember the OJ trial. DNA cannot be altered just because someone steps in a pool of blood but when presented with the fact that the DNA in the blood was an exact match to OJ and that the odds of it belonging to anyone other than him were astronomical, they still didnt buy it. DNA is not something that the average joe is going to be reading about. (read that as not a geek like me ) They had the man but …
For this case the same man on the street is not going to have read about the body farm or the oak ridge laboratory or stages of decomposition (yep me again) so will see the reports but wont have the background so its either they buy it or they dont. I think they will when combined with everything else but if this was all they had, (like it was before they found Caylee) harder to say.
#51 Todd – I HOPE Casey’s fingerprints are on the duct tape. Its becoming more and more disconcerting how much the prosecution is trying to get this case sold in the media before it goes to jury. It makes one wonder if they have anything more than the circumstantial evidence that we’ve already seen over and over.
If not, there is always the possibility of a persuadable & naive juror out there that could end up in this courtroom and be convinced that there is ‘reasonable’ doubt.
I hope for their sakes, they have a smoking gun.
58 Suz
If Casey’s claims help the prosecution, she’s telling the truth.
PS – I was being too flip in that last response. Casey also helps the prosecution when she’s telling a whopper and they can prove it’s a lie.
Great discussion at Second Life/Virtual Juror tonight! Wish you all would participate in the next invite that Angela sends out via email. It was very informative. It was my first time to really have time to participate – and don’t worry if you don’t know how to do much – its really easy/intuitive and its set up so its a closed community so if you haven’t had a chance to figure out how to change your appearance or move around easily its ok. Angela created a ‘corn field’ – its exactly what it sounds like. If you want to go hide among the corn rows and play around with changing your clothes/appearance in private its perfect. Everyone is very nice & patient so if you have basic questions – let ‘em rip.
If you want to read the chat blogs from tonight (keep in mind all of the voice chat is not included which is a lot of the discussion but the text chat is all there) go to the vr hack forum and look at the Group Logs in the forum listing to read about about the autopsy report. Very enlightening. And disturbing.
Thanks Lily, I am longing for 30 minutes to do that.. Angela will attest..
Tell her Cooper needs a new get up.
B
todd, I think that Blink clarified in a past story and comments, that the tape was not posterior (didn’t get wrapped around the skull). That is correct Kleat. Wow you guys pay attention.
B
Does anyone know, is it possible to do Second Life on a Mac with OSX? i was looking around at the vr hack forum and got a message that this would not work. Any ideas?
#67 – O0ooooHhhh we had a great discussion about the duct tape on second life tonight. . . I got there late but they filled me in and then I went to the VR Hacks forum ‘Group Logs’ and read the rest. The part about the duct tape being over baby’s nose will make you weep along with other ideas discussed about items in the bags, etc.
Blink – I know you’re so so so busy. I am too (but probably not like you). I’ve got 4 boys and a job that takes me traveling all over the darn place but I am soooooo glad I made the time in between helping with AP World History for my son and a little time for myself at Second Life.
I am ridiculously hooked on this. Thank you thank you thank you for bringing Angela and all of the others at SL/Virtual Juror for us. I am so glad you weed out the bashers & trashers and that your brilliant BLOGS keep the bright thinkers and great minds interested here.
I’m more of a reader than a contributer – and your BLOGS are excellent and your contributers – silverspnr, Maura, WSH, (forgetting so many others, sorry!) are people I would love to work with everyday. I cannot take the low tone of so many of the other places – I. Just. Can’t. Do. It.
Unlike the A’s and their windfall at their ‘lil baby’s expense – I wish you could all make tons of money off of these great ideas for prevention for children at risk and justice for children harmed and that your own children and families are healthy and you are happy doing it.
I hope we can all sit at the camp fire in the corn field – and roast marshmallows again soon! Angela I’ve got to figure out how to get that pair of shoes you gave me. These little half-boots I’m wearing are not good except for weekends or campfires . . . hahaha
Angela Talamasca gave you shoes? Did you see that dang Laura Ashley frock Im running around in? Im making a call.. lol
B
Blink, Thanks for all your great work. A wierd thought just came to mind. Regarding the fight that Cindy and Casey got into on the 15th. What if Caylee had just gotten out of the pool, still in bathing suit with lifevest on and Casey being pissed grabbed Caylee took her out of the house..then changed her into dry clothes that were perhaps in the backpack in the car and then placed her wet bathing suit, life vest etc..in trunk? maybe even in a bag in the trunk? didn’t she drop off a bag similar to this to some guys house? or he found a bag of items similar to this in his home? That would explain Caylee not having shoes on as well as the chloroform in trunk right? also would explain the swimmer pull up pampers you believe she may have been wearing. Any thoughts on this appreciated.
karen 657, the latest docs released to the defense mentions the fbi doc squad under #13 (maybe, since it like some of the others on the list says ‘quality systems documents’ it will turn out to be something dry rather juicy,like a chain of custody, but it caught my eye)
COMES NOW, the State of Florida, by and through the undersigned Assistant State Attorney and hereby makes the following information available to the defense and state as follows:
1. CD-R – Discovery Documents Pages 8360-10439
2. DVD-R – Aerial Views from Caylee Searches
3. CD-R – Photos of Casey Anthony’s Tattoos
4. CD-R – Photobucket ( 1 of 8 )
5. CD-R – Photobucket ( 2 of 8 )
6. CD-R – Photobucket ( 3 of 8 )
7. CD-R – Photobucket ( 4 of 8 )
8. CD-R – Photobucket ( 5 of 8 )
9. CD-R – Photobucket ( 6 of 8 )
10. CD-R – Photobucket ( 7 of 8 )
11. CD-R – Photobucket ( 8 of 8 )
12. CD-R – Trace Evidence Unit, Quality Systems Documents (FBI)
13. CD-R – Questioned Documents Unit, Quality Systems Documents (FBI)
14. CD-R – Latent Print Operations Unit, Standard Operating Procedures (FBI)
15. CD-R – DNA Analysis Unit 1, Quality Systems Documents (FBI)
16. CD-R – Quality Systems Documents (FBI)
17. CD-R – 08091106 TO HM (FBI)
18. CD-R – Discovery Request 7A-TP-71176, Proficiency Tests (FBI)
19. CD-R – 081213001 TO HO, Q62-Q64, 7A-TP-71176 (FBI)
20. CD-R – 091002002 TO NR, 081021021 TO NR, Tampa (FBI)
21. CD-R – 081213001 TO NR (FBI)
22. CD-R – 081213001 TO NR (FBI)
23. CD-R – 081213001 Wf etc, fSA files from 12-14-08 & 12-30-08, 3130xL Runs (FBI)
24. CD-R – 009010709NR, 009011029NR, 009011029NR, 009020409NR, 081213001 (FBI)
25. CD-R – 090115014 TO NR, 081213001 HS (FBI)
26. CD-R – 080911006 TO NR (FBI)
27. CD-R – 081213001 TO WF (FBI)
28. CD-R – 080730003 TO NR, 080805005 TO NR, 080811006 TO NR, Tampa (FBI)
29. CD-R – 080730003 TO NR etc (FBI)
Hey, Blink: what do you know about Tim Miller arranging a lie detector test for Misty Cummings and saying she failed miserably, more than once???? A break? or just truth finally surfacing? Wonder what Ron Cummings is going to do with this knowledge being made public? It makes it look like he married Misty to try to shut her up.
To be honest, the only thing I can think of was to prove to Ron she is lying.. Everyone already knew she flunked the poly’s, I also want to know who her attorney is that the coverage does not mention by name.
B
Blink – Do you think there will be anything that comes from testing the maggots (sorry, everyone…it’s so unbelieveably horrid) that were found in the trunk. Is it possible for those bugs to provide any type of evidence at all?
If the tape wasn’t wrapped around, then in all yours opinion, why do you think the state put the dp back on the table?
Did you read my article on he autopsy, my good Todd?
B
Funny how Casey’s supposed “note of instructions” from the phantom nanny has never been produced…
Maura, I am heartened that you can extract yourself from ping maps long enough to be flip! I feel like I saw you smile. : )
Hey Blink, please let me add my invite to Chitown’s. If you’re ever in the Windy City and feel like talking about the case, you can always call on me. I’d love to have someone to talk to about it in person. My family and friends all think I’m nuts to be so interested in it. Frankly, I think they’re nuts Not to be interested. So there!! lol
I’d like to know if Jose or Andre or Linda has ever said to C “You need to tell me. Is the FBI going to announce that your prints are on that duct tape? We don’t want any surprises like that, so we need to be prepared with our response.” How do you think she’d answer that? I’m not sure how the system works if a murder suspect admits to her attorney that she actually did it. Any thoughts?
When will the doc dump be released? I have my fingers crossed that the FBI fingerprints will be included in it!
please forgive my naivity, blink, but your article on the autopsy, is that above? (boy, my face is about as red as Cindy’s hair is right now)…….
#78 suz – I noticed when I was searching for more info what the next docs released that Marinade Dave did a pretty good post about what you are referring to.
http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/new-documents-will-they-point-a-finger-at-a-print/
#82 @Todd – the menu on the upper left of this website has all of Blink’s history of posts. Its under Categories. Scroll down to Caylee Anthony. You can find a lot of information from those posts and lots of excellent comments where these kinds of things have been previously discussed. I find it useful to use the ‘search’ function in the browser (I use a Macbook) but if you’re using Explorer – use your search function – to look up key words for something you might be particularly interested in in each post/comments. Don’t feel naive – it takes a long while to read through all of the information. I wasn’t here from the beginning but I have finally read all of the posts and am much more informed than I was before!
Did Casey ever say she had a written script to follow? I mean the word suggests it is written, but since she claimed to get calls from zanny all the time from private numbers, etc., I assume her story would be that she was told to do this or that (go to Target, go to Fusian) on the phone from day to day.
Thanks Lily, much appreciated!
Zenaida’s note to Casey
1. conjure up fantasy address
2. file false police report
3. get Target brand beer, white-rimmed bug-eye sunglasses
4. if questioned by authorities, swallow sim card from phone
To Lily comment #46. What about tampering with a “witness”. Do you realize the Master Liar of the Universe is involved with this case. That would be none other than Mark Furhman of the OJ case. He said, during testimony in that trial, he hadn’t use the N word for 10 years(odd) knowing he made a tape using the N word 41 times 8 years previously. Why didn’t he say he NEVER used the N word? It was just so strange him saying “in the last 10 years.”
His testimony and character flaws pretty much sealed OJ’s acquittal. OJ was guilty beyond belief but that jury did not want to convict him because of a “racist cop”. I wonder if he was paid to lie!? It’s still quite unbelievable to me.
Furhman has already inserted a lie in this case or is making George Anthony the liar or just trying to confuse us. Or maybe just me. He said during an interview on the Greta Van Susteren show, “Well, it’s interesting. You know, the grandparents are telling me that on the 16th, when Casey and Caylee are leaving that morning at 12:50″
Notice “grandparentS” and 12:50 in the “morning”. George said it was 12:50 PM.
I’m worried his name even appears in this case. How did he get involved?
SAL: There’s a new story out about Mr. Perry. Look at wftv.com
For anyone who hasn’t seen this yet today….
From wftv
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — The defense team scored a small victory in the case against Casey Anthony on Thursday. Tim Miller, founder of EquuSearch, has agreed to testify as a defense witness.
JUDGE’S ORDER: Read Order About Tim Miller
“That the attorney for Timothy Miller … has agreed to present Timothy Miller as a representative of Texas Equusearch (TES) for deposition in Orlando, Florida,” Judge Stan Strickland wrote in the order (read it).
However, the defense will only get search records pertaining to the 32 volunteers who searched near the spot where Caylee’s remains were ultimately found and they have to pay for the records.
“That the documents of the thirty-two (32) searchers, which were referenced by Mark E. NeJame as counsel for Timothy Miller and (TES) at the hearing on August 21, 2009, are to be disclosed to both the State and Defense,” the judge further wrote in the order.
The defense wanted records from all 4,000 volunteers who looked for Caylee, but the judge denied that.
“That all documents related to all the other searchers working with or under Texas Equusearch are not to be disclosed,” Judge Stan Strickland wrote.
The guy who offered Zanny a million dollars to come forward in November.
If this is the real Steven Perry, he is driving a Hyundai. I doubt he is a millionaire.
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BLINK I also posted this in your last Tracy post
#82 Todd,
I am no Blink, Maura, Kleat, silverspnr, et al.
But if I may offer a couple of snippets from the autopsy report:
“…This duct tape was clearly placed prior to decomposition, keeping the mandible in place.”
“…Opinion: Considering the dispersal of the skeletal remains, it would not be expected to find the mandible in this position unless something affixed the mandible in this position prior to decomposition and the hair matting forming. In skeletal cases involving surface depositions, the mandible and cranium are normally found disarticulated because there is nothing to hold the mandible in place after the soft tissues decomposes. Based on the position of the tape and mandible, it can be inferred that the mandible remained in this position because the tape held it in place prior to the hair forming into a matt on the base
of the skull.”
Todd, I believe we can interpret “prior to decomposition” 2 ways.
1, fairly immediately upon death (with the probability of the tape readily there/available for use)
or 2, the horrific and heart-wrenching … while still alive.
Either way, in my opinion, the time of the duct tape placement (along with forensic analysis of the hair attached to the tape indicating a probable combination of “alive hair” and “hair with decomposition factors”) points to murder, not accident.
The likelihood of an atrocious, extremely heinous crime committed with unimaginable suffering being inflicted upon the little child, clearly qualifies the state to bring in the DP.
If I am wrong anywhere, please, someone correct me.
I do not see how Judge Strickland can continue to give rulings at Baez’s every whim. He’s making it to be so clouted with false doubt, that the jury is going to be conned into questioning the evidence. Why is he allowed to request records from EVERYONE that is at Equisearch, the entire 400 people, not to mention the ones that were tied with the search itself? He’s trying to say one of those volunteers TAINTED evidence? This is unbelievable, he’s going to get this murderer off so he can be set for life in retirement, and there is noone coming to the defense of the real victim here, Caylee. The ones who were supposed to be defending that girl are the very ones that are going to see to it that she gets off scott free. George, Cindy, and Lee sure aren’t going to see that justice gets served for Caylee, they’re too busy trying to cover for themselves and their murdering daughter
Thanks, Lily! While I was cutting and pasting text from the FBI’s site, I see dave was doing a bit more legwork tying things together.
Boz I think you might have been upset about my opinion about paying off jurors or tampering with witnesses. I’m sorry if I came off a little defensive.
If you’re interested in the O.J. case – last night in Second Life Angela Talamasca talked about her belief that O.J. could be innocent after talking with an FBI agent close to the case. I don’t agree with her but she said some things that I had never heard before. If you get into VR Hacks forum – you may be able to ask her about it in there.
My opinion about Mark Fuhrman is that he lied about using the offensive ‘N’ word because it would have really hurt his working relationship with his fellow detectives and he was embarrassed about using the word. You’re right – a lie is still a lie – and it did have a huge impact on the case unfortunately.
In my own opinion – Fuhrman is not really connected to the case at all. And in the O.J. case I don’t consider what he did as ‘tampering’ because I think the prosecution was blindsided by the video/interview that surfaced with him using the word 8 years before instead of 10 years.
These days he’s just making a buck as some sort of expert guest on the silly cable tv shows that are also making millions off of this case. So, I don’t think Mark meant to mislead with the 12:50 ‘morning’ vs. PM – I don’t think it was a ‘lie’ so much but just a simple mistake. I could be wrong.