Caylee/Casey Anthony Case EXCLUSIVE: New Prosecution Witness Sean Henady
Indiana– Last Wednesday, attorney for Texas Equusearch, Mark Nejame, released a few aerial images that in their opinion prove that the area where 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthony was under water at the time of the last search.
Today, in newly released discovery by the State’s Attorney’s Office, we see the aerial imagery expert responsible for that footage makes the witness list for the prosecution.
Sean Henady, tapped personally by TES founder Tim Miller, spoke exclusively today to blinkoncrime. This will be his only statement regarding the Caylee Anthony case until it’s conclusion.
In August and again in November of 2008, my services were requested by Texas Equusearch for aerial mapping in their efforts to locate missing toddler Caylee Anthony. In November only, my participation expanded to asissting with coordination of the search effort on the ground.
The complete case file, which includes information and Imagery from my office, has been provided to both the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and the defense counsel for Casey Marie Anthony as mandated by the discovery process. Every Image from my office was marked “Confidential Not For Public Distribution.”
Sean Henady, President Aerial Image Corp, 3 View Technologies
Henady, together with 12 year missing persons veteran and former director of Missing and Exploited Childrens program Mandy Albritton, recently co-founded 3 View Search Services.
3 View, a non profit organization, is a premier law enforcement support vehicle to provide resources and assets to emergency services teams and to facilitate search and recovery efforts.
Currently, 3VSS resources are only available at the request of the law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction in a missing persons case. 3VSS is chaired by former Congressman Nick Lampson, founder of The Missing and Exploited Childrens caucus in Washington, DC. Leonard “Len” Wilson is the organizations Chief Executive Officer.
Henady and his team of imaging experts worked extensively on the Stacy Peterson , Brittanee Drexel, and Corrie Anderson cases
In 2005, missing Indianna man Charles Ricky was located exclusively by Henady’s aerial images taken over a quarry he was ultimately recovered in.
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Funny Todd. Swallow SIM card . . . LOL
wpgmouse I think that was a great analysis of the autopsy as it relates to the duct tape. I hate to keep monopolizing the blog today (I should stop myself and get back to work!) but last nite on Second Life chat one of the experts went even further with what was included in the bag and also said the duct tape was around Cay’s nose as well. I posted the link in one of my comments above – you can read what she said she saw and how disturbed she was. She felt like there were personal things in the bag and that it was like a shrine to Caylee in some ways.
Todd, correct me if I am wrong, but there is nothing in Judge Stan’s order, that goes beyond what Mark NeJame and his client offered to the defense– same 32 searchers, same offer of testimony with no objection to certifying Tim Miller as a witness. The defense did not want the 32, said they heard there were 100 searchers in that area, not 32 AND they wanted to go through ALL the records of ALL the volunteers and to copy what they wanted. They were fishing and Judge Stan put a squash on that and tightly– if they find something of interest about someone else being there, they can come to him, it will be reviewed IN CAMERA, then he (aka the court) will decide.
He gave the defense nothing more than they should have, and as agreed TES and Tim Miller would provide, before the hearing, by Mr. NeJame.
It was mutual agreement written into an order as appropriate for the record. Period. Nejame sees that somebody thought Baez got one over on him my bat phones going to start ringing.
B
Todd, to be candid, WESH’s impression was completely misleading– Keeling’s report was vague at best and could easily leave one wondering if the defense had a victory by getting records ‘they’ wanted– really, that’s not so. They got what they would have had without a hearing– simple as that.
I don’t know why WESH did this… they are just mis-implying, or putting incorrect empahsis– builds suspense I suppose, to say defense won something from the Judge.
hey, wsh– yeah, the nutcases evidence is coming out now!! When are we going to hear about who is stuffing Casey’s jail piggybank, in more detail. Geeze… that letter seems to me, to be written by a kid, all the lower case letters, no capitalization on the ‘I’s. Just like some text message would be written I guess. More woodwork crawlies… this one looks rather ‘trollish’ for some reason.
yep, same punctuation and format in that dealership comment as in the ‘zanny’ offer.
Who’s going to volunteer to help search for a missing person again after this? Knowing your personal information could eventually be plastered all over the internet. Good ole Sunshine Laws!
thanks kleat, brought the blood pressure back down a bit!
Good, Todd!! Wanted to stop that from escalating for ya!!!
There’s another msm report that says this: (so, the WESH version had its spin, this has quite the opposite)
“Strickland has decided to hold off on making a ruling about forcing Texas EquuSearch to turn over the names and information of volunteers who took part in the search for Caylee Anthony.”
Of course, he did make a decision, but not in favour of the defense for what they were asking for in addition to what NeJ and TM had offered (with Brad Conway’s perusal/approval/cooperation).
(That quote was from http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/27/tim_miller_material_witness_in_casey_case.html)
It seems to me as having served on several criminal and civil trials that there is enough evidence from the prosecution that will enable a jury to find her guilty. As Ive stated before, it gets down to assigning blame. This child is dead and someone is responsible for her death – who is to blame? Well, right now Baez and his minions can bring up all the red herrings they want, but they cannot point conclusively to one other living person that could have killed Caylee. And that matters – a lot. Juries dont buy into phantom killers. The defense can go into the minutiae of scientific studies that have claims that air samples are junk science until the jurors eyes glaze over, but in the end that gets discarded or forgotten. There is no other credible explanation for Caylees death, not even accidental death due to the duct tape. Whether there are fingerprints on the duct tape or not,the jury wouldnt expect there would be, would they? They know most criminals have a semblance of what not to do -which is not to leave fingerprints. In the end a 2 year old child who could not have left of her own accord, and who was in her mothers care ends up dead and not reported for 30 days. No nanny, no suspects other than the mother – the conclusion must be drawn that the mother was responsible. The defense can spend hours trying to prove that someone else planted the body – but they have no proof. It doesnt matter what they believe – it only matters what they can prove. And so far they cannot prove that a single solitary indivdual other than Casey Anthony was involved with her daughters death. Thats why she will get convicted.
lol… bat phones!! Zowie!!!
boz– maybe– BUT, even Mark NeJame (Sunshine aside) concedes that when someone goes searching or a missing person, and finds something, like a body or clothes etc, they have no expectation of privacy. The judge is clearly protecting the privacy interests of ALL others by the strict limitation for purpose– no drag net fishing in Judge Stan’s court!!! I think Judge Stan sees this and is going to protect the interests of those searching for the missing.
lily, I was not offended one bit. We all have our own opinions and I know that. OK? The way these people are lying to the judges, lawyers and cops makes me feel like they’re being coached. Furhman would be a great coach when it comes to lying! Wouldn’t you think?
I just read the ruling and it doesn’t say that he will testify for the defense??? It states that he will give a deposition, which is normal procedure, but where does it say he will testify for the defense or be their witness?? Am I missing something???
Well here we go. Whoever those 32 searchers are, better be prepared to have their names dragged thru the mud and possibly face rearing the blame for the death of this sweet baby. God this makes me soooo mad. Why does it seem as though the defense gets whatever they want??? I can’t wait to hear about the ruling on Padilla. I have a feeling that it will come back in the defenses favor. Let’s just give in to their every whim, only to help them in preparing a defense, cause we all know, they don’t have anything concrete to defend her with. GOD THIS CASE MAKES ME SO ANGRY. POOR CAYLEE!!! She lost her life, laid in the mud,water and rotten vegatation, was dragged around by animals once already. Now she is being dragged around by animals again. How much more does she have to take?? My god, she has endured so much pain in her short life already, way more than any of us can image, and NOT one person in her family will come and defend her. WTF??? Sorry for the rant but it is just not right!
Eh, I don’t think the Tim Miller thing will amount to all that much. Won’t the defense just look for a searcher who will say they were there on such and such a date and did NOT see a body in the spot where the remains were found? (And they might not find such a person.) Or else have Tim say “we did not search that spot, so we can’t say whether or not a body was there”? I’m not 100% sure I understand what the defense is hoping for here. Perhaps the ‘big brains’ on the board can enlighten us (for fellow fans of “Defending Your Life”).
Hope you’re right, artgal, but Lyon will do her best to make the jury feel mighty reluctant to send a young woman to her death if there is reasonable doubt. I’d feel better about the chances for a successful prosecution if the DP were off the table (but I really don’t know much, so don’t go by me, lol).
New findings in the Tracy Ocasio case!
A boot found in the woods, friend is 99% sure its Tracy’s.
It has been confirmed by her parents it is Tracy’s size.
They are doing DNA testing on it, results should be in by Spet. 1st.
Why isnt anything up about this on Tracy?
Your in the wrong thread, there is like 50 links and updates all day
B
Lily, as I like to put it, the prosecution needs to produce a smoking gun, and the defense needs to produce a smoking hot nanny. (Ok, i guess the defense doesn’t REALLY need to do that…)
Well said Michigan fan! I sincerely hope those 32 people just keep quite. Cindy and George set the procedence when they walked out of their depo. If these people get deposed, I hope they don’t show up.
BREAKING NEWS: JUDGE RULES NO GAG ORDER ON PADILLA
http://www.wesh.com/news/20582620/detail.html
michigan fan, from what I’ve observed (and I think read from silverspnr on this related subject), is that the depositions are taken so that they can learn what that witness will testify to, and they can also get information in their questioning. They don’t have to do this when it’s ‘their’ witness, but remember that it seemed odd that the state was taking depositions from THREE of their very own witnesses recently? Namely Lee Anthony, George Anthony, Cindy Anthony. This is because these witnesses may actually not want to help the state so much, and the state wants to nail down their testimony, get a sense of if they are intending to be ‘hostile’ to the state’s interests, or to any lawyer for the state etc. I’d guess the Anthony crew would want to give the impression that they would never be hostile, and then turn coat at trial if it suited. The state can get their statements under oath now, if they change it later– then they could be declared hostile witnesses, and then questioning could be more aggressive, with leading questions, maybe even perjury charges contemplated.
So, Tim Miller will be a witness for the prosecution but the defense may also wish to call him and of course, they go second, in the order of things, right?
michigan fan, they (the defense) can’t just sling mud everywhere or it will look pretty obvious– it won’t be SOD did it (some other dude), but EOD did it (every other dude). They are looking for holes in the idea that the area of Caylee’s body find, was not searched, that there were only 32 people in that area– the rest of the 4000, they’d probably hope to get something to implicate that there were some unsavory characters on the search, who could have ‘moved over’ to the Suburban location. They are not allowed to just go get all those other volunteer records.
Remember, there were lots of people around that area, protestors, psychics were there with their psychicmobiles and psychicdogs, and there was Keith Williams, and the Anthony family and friends, there was Dominic Casey (hey, maybe he did it) and Hoover, and probably school board officials, janitors or groundskeepers going down that street, there were utility people, police officers, lost motorists, maybe more school kids once school was in, who knows. So to be suspicious of 32, naw…
Ruling is out on Padilla Defense Motion Denied Padilla and crew may testify if Prosecution wants them too.
In the January 30 hearing, Judge Strickland granted Mark NeJame’s motion asking the court to toss out a request to have members of Texas EquuSearch appear as defense witnesses and denied Baez’s motion for access to information regarding the TES volunteers who participated in searches for Caylee.
While it’s true that Baez only got what Mark NeJame offered last week (Tim Miller as a material witness and information about 32 Suburban Drive TES volunteers), it is a victory for Baez given that Mark NeJame was unwilling to offer anything six months ago.
I would love to know exactly why NeJame made concessions this time around. My guess is that NeJame knew last week that Baez is in a stronger position now than he was in January relative to getting at least some of the TES information for several reasons. The business with Richard Cain is problematic (his failure to follow the tips from RK and KW appropriately, then lying about what he did, then quitting), the Dominic Casey/Jim Hoover videotapes (the ground very near the remains’ site appears dry in videotape they shot in mid-November), and the SAO reinstated the death penalty in April.
Jim Hoover showed up there on November 7th. He approached a TES member he thought was Tim and told him to get a team to Suburban. How do we supposed that will be explained?
B
Re: Volunteer Information
IMO volunteers would have to be daft not to realize they could be called as witnesses if they were in a team that found evidence that would be introduced at trial. In that sense, there could be no reasonable expectation of absolute privacy relative to the information provided on the volunteer application.
It’s also reasonable IMO that in the event that protocols were not strictly followed by the search teams and in the event that questions arose (as with the water levels in the Suburban Drive woods over the period July to December), the defense would have a right to review volunteer records and question volunteers regarding where they searched and what they saw because even though they’re volunteers, they made themselves part of the investigation.
The problem, as I see it, is that in Florida, the open records laws are so liberal that those volunteer applications could be made available to nosy parkers like us. That is the situation that could dampen volunteerism in the future, and I’m sympathetic. However, if both the defense and the prosecution get the records directly from TES/Mark NeJame, I am not sure that the public would see those records.
We have seen discovery that was reviewed by the SAO and then given to the defense. Once it’s passed to the defense by the SAO, the media may file a FOIA request for that discovery, but the media doesn’t necessarily get everything. Some information is redacted and sealed by the judge.
We have not seen any discovery collected by the defense unless, as with the Uncer and Richardson deposition transcripts, the defense filed the documents with the court as part of the defense’s action against the county regarding the December 11 videotaping.
The defense has deposed a lot of people whose transcripts we haven’t seen and might never see because only a certain action on the part of the defense will trigger a legal requirement for the defense to turn over what they have to the prosecution. Just as we haven’t seen (and might never see) a transcript or videotape of the defense’s deposition of Tony Lazzaro, we might never see the TES volunteer applications because those will be provided to the defense from Mark NeJame’s office, not by the SAO. I don’t believe Mark NeJame will have to file those records with the court as the SAO does when giving discovery to Baez. And if the records aren’t filed with the court, the media can’t get them.
However, those are my guesses, and I could be wrong.
On a related matter, last October we were regrettably provided with around 1,500 pages of Crimeline tips that often included the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the tipsters. Crimeline is an anonymous tip line, and even though virtually all of the released tips were descriptions of dreams and visions, the tipsters nevertheless had an expectation of anonymity when they called Crimeline, an expectation that was not honored.
I am far more disturbed by the actual release of personal information in the Crimeline tip discovery than I would be by the release of TES volunteer information because Crimeline tipsters DO have a clear expectation of anonymity.
The more I think of it, the more I believe Florida’s Sunshine Laws need to be retooled in the matter of pre-trial discovery.
I think washing away all of the mud that Baez is creating, in the end, they have nothing. He’s been all over the map with accusations, the “nanny”, Jesse Grund, Tony L, and soon to be, Cindy and George. It’s mind-boggling that they feel that they are allowed to forget the initial couple weeks with their false statements, except for the statements from Cindy and George that were the only truth that has been produced from them throughout this ordeal. Now I see why Baez didn’t want those facebook photos made public, he can’t portray to the jury that Casey is this “pathetic choir-girl victim” without it being disproven. It had nothing to do with “embarrassment” and “mental anguish” as Baez claimed, but instead has everything to do with his fear of that jury seeing Casey for the real individual she is and always has been
125 Blink
I’ve been asking that question for a while. I don’t know if we got the entire Hoover statement transcript, but on the released January 7 transcript, Hoover was asked a lot of questions about the November 15 and 16 search but he was not asked about that TES tip IIRC the week prior. After being interviewed for three hours by LE, Hoover and his lawyer were interviewed by WFTV. It was two days later, on January 9, that Tim Miller publicly revealed that Jim Hoover had approached a TES volunteer, Bill Todd, on November 8 to provide a tip.
From my notes, it was on Saturday, November 8 that PI Jim Hoover approached Bill Todd, a TES volunteer, with a tip. Hoover said he worked for the Anthony family so his presence needed to be kept secret. Bill Todd would not discuss the tip, but Bill Todd’s wife told Fox News that the tip was not specific but that someone (unknown) had reported seeing a white car near the Suburban Drive woods back in June. It is unknown whether the tip was really called in or when it was called in or to whom it was given (PI only or also LE and Crimeline assuming it wasn’t a fabrication).
Questions, questions . . .
I will trust you of the 8th, but trust me that Hoover thought Todd was Tim Miller. If you have never met them, they have a strong resemblence, fyi.
B
#95 westside
I’d love to know if that guy who has offered 1 million for Zenaida to “come forward” has any affiliation with Kidfinders Fraud, Inc. and are aquaintances of any of the Anthony’s, business, friend, or other. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Baez was aquainted somehow with the convict who wrote that letter claiming to know the “real killer”. Not that a convicted felon will aquire credibility, but if this was the least bit viable, why isn’t Cindy and George high-tailing it to that prison, instead of being a public parasite?
Oh, thank you Maura…my sweet Lord, you are such a bloodhound, tracking and pursuing only the truth. I have searched with TES before, and I took it as an honor; to uphold the truth, had I found anything connected with the matter in hand and would have gladly given up my anonymity for justice. Crimeline tipsters do expect complet anonymity and for many reasons. Let’s just say 1 in 1,000 Crimeline tips are valid tips to Law Enforcement, it is so worth the stipulation of anonymity.
On another note, I need to share with you guys a couple of things regarding Second Life…..
I have one hot MammaJamma Computer that I had custom built and it is more baby than I could ever have dreamed of and I love it. However, for some reason Second Life doesn’t like Intel and Intel doesn’t like Second Life. I can’t run Second Life and this is why….
Your computer must meet these REQUIREMENTS, or you may not be able to successfully participate in Second Life.
Internet Connection*: Cable or DSL Cable or DSL
Operating System: XP, or Vista XP or Vista
Computer Processor: 800 MHz Pentium III or Athlon, or better 1.5 GHz (XP), 2-GHz (Vista) 32-bit (x86) or better
Computer Memory: 512 MB or more 1 GB or more
Screen Resolution: 1024×768 pixels 1024×768 pixels or higher
Graphics Card for XP**: •NVIDIA GeForce 6600 or better
•OR ATI Radeon 8500, 9250 or better
•OR Intel 945 chipset
My computer meets all of those requirements except the Intel 945 Chipset and I am SOOL.
For those of you with MAC systems….
Mac OS X Minimum Requirements Recommended
Internet Connection*: Cable or DSL Cable or DSL
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4.11 or better Mac OS X 10.5.4 or better
Computer Processor: 1 GHz G4 or better 1.25 GHz G4 or better
Computer Memory: 512 MB or more 1 GB or more
Screen Resolution: 1024×768 pixels 1024×768 pixels or higher
Graphics Card**: •ATI Radeon 9200 and above
•OR ATI Radeon X Series
•OR NVIDIA GeForce 2, GeForce 4
•ATI: X1600, X1900, X2400, X2600
•OR NVIDIA: 6800, 7600, 7800, 8800
* Second Life is not compatible with dial-up internet, satellite internet, and some wireless internet services.
** Second Life may not run on graphics cards other than the ones listed above. The following cards are NOT compatible with Second Life:
•NVIDIA cards that report as a RIVA TNT or TNT2
•ATI cards that report as RAGE, RAGE PRO, or RADEON 320M, 340M, 345M, or similar model numbers
•Intel chipsets less than a 945 including Intel Extreme
•Cards with the following branding: 3DFX, RIVA, TNT, SiS, S3, S3TC, Savage, Twister, Rage, Kyro, MILENNIA, MATROX
The following cards have not been tested with Second Life, and compatibility is not certain:
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•ATI cards that report as RADEON IGP or RADEON XPRESS
•ATI cards that report as FireGL
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I have tried for a solid 8 days to hack, to devise and/or modify, trick, convince my system to explore the basements, roof ledges, and steam tunnels of my wonderful magic carpet ride but to no avail.
Some of us will not be able to visit the cornfields and roast marshmallows by the open fire and exchange shoes. Thus said, we all can sign up to
http://forum.vrhacks.net/index.php
and be one big family…though some are getting a fantastic ride in the virtual world….some of us are not.
PP, that was very, very kind of you. If you get there before me can you steal me a pair of Manolo’s?
B
I was reading on wesh and it states that the botonist claims based on the growth thru the bones, the body was there at least 4 months. That would show the body being there since for the sake of the 4 months, would place it there in around Sept. I know that they cannot place an EXACT timing just a period of time, but doesn’t this kind of help the defense, because Casey was in Jail around this time, wasn’t she???
what is up with the doc dump?? Nothing on it yet?? Anyone have any inside info as to when we may see it??
From the Orlando Sentinel:
Strickland ordered the information on 32 searchers — who were within several hundred yards of where Caylee was found — to be released to the defense and prosecutors.
Strickland also said that prosecutors and Casey Anthony’s attorneys may review other EquuSearch volunteers’ information at the Orlando office of Miller’s attorney, Mark NeJame.
If more searchers are identified as being in the area, the issue can be brought to Strickland’s attention and he will decide if the details should be disclosed.
***
So Baez can review the records of all 4,000 TES volunteers. If Baez can find additional volunteers who were in the area of east Suburban Drive, then he would have an argument to include them.
That seems like a fair decision to me, and it is a similar to the ruling Strickland made regarding Baez’s request for Anthony Lazzaro’s phone records, text messages, emails, and computer searches. Strickland said Baez could have records showing the dates, times, and cell pings for all incoming and outgoing phone activity from June 1 through December 18. Strickland denied, for now, access to Tony’s text messages, emails, and computer records (Internet searches, IMs, etc.), but said if Baez found something going forward to support an argument for text messages, emails, etc., that Strickland would revisit the ruling.
FYI – here is what TES volunteers have to provide and agree to:
TES Volunteer Registration Agreement
Each civilian volunteer MUST complete this form. PHOTO ID REQUIRED
First M Last Name
Weight, Height, Hair, Eyes
Street Address, City, State, Zip, Country
Mailing Address, City, State, Zip, Country
Daytime phone, evening phone, cell phone, other phone
Email address
Employer (number of years employed)
Birthdate
Driver’s license # and State
Vehicle (yes or no)
If yes, make, model, year, and license
Emergency contact name and phone
Health (Fair, Good, Excellent)
Men’s T-shirt size
Do you have any medical conditions that our team should know about? If so, please list.
Have you ever been convicted of a felony? Yes or No. If yes please explain:
Have you ever been convicted of a crime against a child, family violence, or moral turpitude? Yes or No. If yes please explain:
List your SAR related Experience, Certifications, Training, or Special Skills:
The Family & Texas EquuSearch Appreciate your service. It is essential that you follow some basic rules:
Personal safety is the top priority for everyone. DO NOT attempt a task for which YOU are not physically or emotionally prepared. Do NOT leave the assigned team or staging area to which you are assigned.
YOU must follow any and all instructions given by designated Search Management and Team Leader personnel.
YOU must check in with your Team Leader each time YOU return from a field assignment, and account to the Equipment Leader for any special equipment issued. YOU MUST SIGN OUT before going home.
With this type of effort there is an element of risk. YOU agree to be responsible for your own safety and conduct. Should YOU be injured, no individual or group connected with this effort will be held liable.
You agree that any information acquired during your service will not be used for any personal profit or gain and will be treated as CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATON.
Your involvement in this effort in no way allows YOU to ignore or violate any local, state, or federal laws.
INS is working with Texas Equusearch to insure that any person volunteering their time or information on this search will not be investigated regarding their immigration status to be in this country,
NO PHOTOGRAGHS or VIDEO of any kind WILL BE ALLOWED AT ANY TIME, unless permission is obtained from a Texas Equusearch supervisory personnel.
I agree to the above rules. I agree to Texas Equusearch conducting a complete background check if applicable. I agree that no information with regard to search will be released to any member of the news media made public in any way or used for personal use of any kind. I agree all information, paperwork, or equipment issued, etc., are the property of Texas Equusearch. I will take no photographs or video on any Texas Equusearch sectioned search or event, without the permission of Texas Equusearch supervisory personnel. I understand that tips or information of any kind pertaining to a potential criminal case must be reported and removal of anything from a search are may be considered interfering with a criminal investigation, a prosecutable offense. I agree to hold Texas Equuserch harmless with regard to any personal injury or injury/theft of horses, dogs or personal property while volunteering for Texas Equusearch. By my signature below I accept these terms.
Signature:
Date:
Witness
***
What I see is that the only privacy agreements described on the form are agreements that the volunteer will not disclose information obtained during the search. There is no agreement by TES to protect the privacy of the volunteers’ personal information.
correct. No expectation of privacy either considering there were no less than 6 news vans parked outside. I was there the day before and got a text while I was standing in the field before set up from a friend saying, your on the news just standing there, dont curse or anything.
B
#102 lily
Thank you for your comment to my #97 post and for your suggestion of reading the Second Life chat from last night. I have to tell you, though, that I am so not ready to go that next level of information and discussion.
When I first went over the autopsy reports and read between the lines of what was stated, what was not stated, and how things were stated,
I came to the conclusion I had hoped never to have reached.
The overwhelming, disturbing, sickening realization the duct tape was placed on this poor child, this dear little child, when she was still breathing. Words cannot describe. I wept for her.
I don’t know if the duct tape placed over the mouth and nose was the lone cause of death by suffocation, but if it was then her fear and length of suffering and the possibility of being restrained is too much to bear. One could only hope that she was first rendered unconscious with something like chloroform.
Oh gosh, getting too graphic here.
If the duct tape was used to silence during a more immediate cause of death, like strangulation (the “missing” heavily-beaded lanyard that apparently always hung from the mirror of Miss Anthony’s car disturbs me) or a drug overdose or ingestion of some lethal substance perhaps, it still would have been placed prior to death.
And again, the forensics on the hair found attached to the tape could very possibly corroborate the probability of the duct tape as being applied prior to death.
These are only my own conclusions and opinions of course.
Feelin’ a little shakey here, lily.
Maura, thanks! Boy, I misread that one– mixing up the 32, thinking those were what the judge was giving– now I understand the ‘win’ claim by the defense. Duh.
wpgmouse – I would post the content of the chat but I’m not sure that’s ok with the expert and Blink. It is very disturbing to think of what might have actually happened when you try to put yourself in Caylee’s place and I think its what draws us all back after having to take a breaks occasionally in order for our hearts to catch up with the details sinking in. I hope I didn’t add to your shaky feeling and I can completely understand.
Plus I know what you mean about taking on another forum and going to the next level with Second Life. I can’t get into it as often as I’d like to – in fact last night was the first time I participated in the chat and instead of just observing. I lurk at a couple of the other forums that don’t get into the Anthony bashing and trashing but I rarely post anywhere but here. Blink is hands down the best.
I was just wondering if someone could tell me how to get to this second life.
Hi lily,
No, it was my recollection of reading the autopsy reports and my reaction to the conclusion I came to then that got me feeling a little shakey again. It was nothing you said at all.
lily, thanks for the thought of posting the Second Life chats,
but like I said, I’m not really ready to go that level of details, meaning that, I, personally found the reports disturbing enough.
It’s not a question of taking on a different forum, but rather the intensity and depth of what I am gathering from your comments, is being discussed. I have no doubt Second Life is fascinating and extremely informative. I admit I am intrigued by its innovation.
Alas, I am but a wpgmouse.
Thank you, lily, for your thoughtful comments.
# 129 Todd
I don’t think that either of those two men were anything else but attention seekers, and at least one is known to have mental illness. Attaching either to the defense,in my opinion, would only bring down their credibility and hurt Casey’s chances.
Who normally writes a critique of car service, adding their actual phone number at the end? Maybe he isn’t who he says he is, or is really lonely and actually wants someone to call him, I don’t know.
# 134
Wow, that’s a lot of info, ripe for the picking, from criminals looking to steal identities.
#130P-Poirot
Thank you for the info. I don’t have an intel tower and besides the fact that I am inept at this new technology, I can cut myself some slack, because I may “get stuck” due to lack of memory. I have some other “heavy” programs like photoshop and “itunes” with a ton of data in my library. Some of it is on an external HD, but I can’t put it all there. I have already seen a drain on available memory. Is there a way to do something like “clear cache” while on SL? I don’t know if that would be the correct terminology, but something that takes prior actions off, to allow additional space & memory while running it?
I may have to stick to the Blink site myself.
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I think being denied outright in the original motion, had a lot had to do with the way that Baez worded it, with or without any applicable law (or lack of precedent). NeJame knew that he had no standing and so fought against the release of anything.
Then Mac came in and said that they found substantial evidence to show that Caylee was placed there after Casey was in jail. NeJame knew that he would have to release something, so he proposed a reasonable response; a limited release. He probably knew the entire time that eventually something would be released, but initially went for broke and then whittled it down.
Silver can probably answer this with eloquence.
Blink
Even though the state can use Padilla, etal as witnesses, do you think that we probably won’t see these transcripts before trial? It seems that the most critical of police interviews, thus far, have not been released to the public.
I do. We await the media request for them.. If it is blocked we will know why.
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If you plan on volunteering for anything in the future here is a suggestion. Get a fake ID with the following info:
Boz- I w/held that until you can clarify for me please, not sure what you meant or what that is.
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Hey Blink,
Been a long time since I posted with you. I know that you speak with Leonard so I have a question for you to ask him if you would not mind too much. Tony wrote the other day on WS “Whats really ironic is that LP and JB have been talking often.” Can you ask Leonard what this is all about? This statement has me concerned since I have to wonder why there would be continued involvement with Baez. The tone of the posting that day did not seem to indicate that it was due to concern over the documents or I believe he would have said that. No offense to anyone but it gave me a hinky meter kind of feeling.
The point Tony was making, although I do not read WS, I have discussed this issue with him personally, is that he does not know the nature of the conversations between Baez and Leonard and is a cause for concern. I agree with him. Leonard has done plenty ignoring the best interest of his nephew, and I think that is unfortunate because Tony is a good guy with the right intentions.
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lily and wpgmouse. Regarding the autopsy and the duct tape. I am confused. Didn’t Dr.G say the duct tape was put on as decomposition started, which would mean she would have had to stop breathing at that point? There were discussions about this because alot of us wanted to know exactly when the decomp. process started. Since there wasn’t any tissue or organs to exam how can this conclusion be reached or is there more to the autopsy report we the general public haven’t been made aware of.
Regarding the secondlife site or virtual juror site I have been trying for 8 unsuccessful days to gain access. Today I tried to reregister and am awaiting an invite from Angela. I someone could please help me with this process I would be very grateful.
#102 Lily quote “wpgmouse I think that was a great analysis of the autopsy as it relates to the duct tape. I hate to keep monopolizing the blog today (I should stop myself and get back to work!) but last nite on Second Life chat one of the experts went even further with what was included in the bag and also said the duct tape was around Cay’s nose as well. I posted the link in one of my comments above – you can read what she said she saw and how disturbed she was. She felt like there were personal things in the bag and that it was like a shrine to Caylee in some ways.”
Lily – I was unable to find the link you said you provided. If you would be so kind as to please provide the link so I can review. Thank you.
Question for anyone who knows,
please take it easy on me I am no legal eagel.
Can you explain to me why Tim Miller is a Defense Witness and not a State Witness, how does that work, why isn’t he a States Witness, I double checked the States Witness list he wasn’t on there (as far as I saw), why? I would have thought he would be a States Witness testifying to the remains site and if there was water and if it had been searched, seems like he would be an important witness for the State, how will the fact that he is a witness for the Defense help Casey?
Please forgive my leagal ignoracne, I just don’t know how this all works.
thanks as always for all inputs….
The testimony from McLaughlin may not be the “smoking gun” confession type of episode, but another component in illustrating Casey’s behavior and inappropriateness, in light of a missing child. It may not be the big revelation that we are all looking for.
It could just be the defense trying to chip away pieces of the puzzle, bit by bit, that paint an unsavory portrait of Casey.
Although, if I am not mistaken, wasn’t McLaughlin looking for some type of immunity?
I hope it is released, because I think it would be the most interesting read to date.
I think that L Padilla , on the other hand, (whether you like him or not), is going to have some serious credibility issues, as a witness.
Okay, that’s it , I don’t want to monopolize this blog.
The immunity was a Leonard creation, not hers, she had no need of it.
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