Caylee/Casey Anthony Case EXCLUSIVE: New Prosecution Witness Sean Henady
Indiana– Last Wednesday, attorney for Texas Equusearch, Mark Nejame, released a few aerial images that in their opinion prove that the area where 34 month old Caylee Marie Anthony was under water at the time of the last search.
Today, in newly released discovery by the State’s Attorney’s Office, we see the aerial imagery expert responsible for that footage makes the witness list for the prosecution.
Sean Henady, tapped personally by TES founder Tim Miller, spoke exclusively today to blinkoncrime. This will be his only statement regarding the Caylee Anthony case until it’s conclusion.
In August and again in November of 2008, my services were requested by Texas Equusearch for aerial mapping in their efforts to locate missing toddler Caylee Anthony. In November only, my participation expanded to asissting with coordination of the search effort on the ground.
The complete case file, which includes information and Imagery from my office, has been provided to both the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and the defense counsel for Casey Marie Anthony as mandated by the discovery process. Every Image from my office was marked “Confidential Not For Public Distribution.”
Sean Henady, President Aerial Image Corp, 3 View Technologies
Henady, together with 12 year missing persons veteran and former director of Missing and Exploited Childrens program Mandy Albritton, recently co-founded 3 View Search Services.
3 View, a non profit organization, is a premier law enforcement support vehicle to provide resources and assets to emergency services teams and to facilitate search and recovery efforts.
Currently, 3VSS resources are only available at the request of the law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction in a missing persons case. 3VSS is chaired by former Congressman Nick Lampson, founder of The Missing and Exploited Childrens caucus in Washington, DC. Leonard “Len” Wilson is the organizations Chief Executive Officer.
Henady and his team of imaging experts worked extensively on the Stacy Peterson , Brittanee Drexel, and Corrie Anderson cases
In 2005, missing Indianna man Charles Ricky was located exclusively by Henady’s aerial images taken over a quarry he was ultimately recovered in.
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i didnt mean to post that twice.and here not her.
thats is two differnt links there,part one and part two.
oh and to qualify as having a real women”s body /hourglass figure —10—-inches ratio bust/hip:waist …thats from wikipedia,i know you guys are all rolling your eyes at me.
Maura #189
BINGO, AGAIN (and BEYOND).
You never cease to amaze. Incredible compilation.
I have a question for you, which I would never have thought about had you not provided this information.
The Cindy “hot flash” excerpt–
When was that email sent?
You said it was sent on the morning of July 16th. Can you tell for certain that this was the date?? Was that a typo? (you are far less likely than I to have a typo in your posts– I am a slave to the backspace key) And if not–and that is, in fact, an accurate date SENT, it says a LOT more than I thought the first time I read that except a few months ago.
*****
For everyone else:
Maura knew precisely which LE interview I was referring to, (what a shock;)
But for others who are not certain about the background of what we are discussing, check out Cindy Anthony’s 8/4/08 interview with Detective Edwards: (which, btw, commenced with a typical Cindy attempt to intimidate, such as taking a call from FBI, referring to Special Agent as “Honey”, and then immediately after ending that phone call, CURSING at OCSO detective:
9. A. No one’s doing a fucking thing!
10. Q. What you need?
11. A. I need someone to pay attention to Caylee that’s missing. I need
12. someone to actually follow up on someone that has called in.
13. Q. Was that the FBI you were just talking to?
14. A. Yeah the….
15. Q. (Inaudible) out of state.
16. A. This is a Georgia tip that came in…
17. Q. Here. Let me see it.
18. (DETECTIVE HUSSEY)
19. Q. That’s not the one from Camden County is it, from uh, on, on uh, I-95
20. at the uh, exit 1?
21. A. I don’t know what exit and um, she called her local authorities, she,
22. this is the one that was at the restaurant.
23. (DETECTIVE EDWARDS)
24. Q. This is the one Yu, Yuri discussed the other day.
25. A. Yeah.
…..
Now, with that beginning of the interview in mind–
Here are some select excerpts which stuck out like a sore thumb to me a long time ago regarding Cindy Anthony’s CONCERN about LE being able to SEE her text messages with Casey during the famous “30 days” (and which Maura obviously also noted, hence the compilation set forth in her post):
……
3. Q. Okay.
4. A. Are we recording today?
5. Q. Yeah.
6. A. And again no sleep, no food, so…. [So if I screw up, I am providing an EXCUSE right now]
7. Q. Okay.
8. A. ….I’m trying to remember best I can, I can’t say for facts that
9. everything I say is (laughter) 100%, it’s to the best of my knowledge.
…….
1. Q. Yeah. Same, same reason. Nothing other than, now you said there
2. was a lot of communication over the phone during all this because
3. you were, you know, asking about the child…
4. A. Uh huh (Affirmative).
…..
19. Q. You talk to her almost every day here you think?
20. A. Yeah at some point. I know she started texting me a lot more in June
21. and July. If I had you know access to what those were I could
22. remember conversations that we had that was (inaudible).
23. Q. Does your phone archive that?
24. A. I don’t know.
25. Q. Do you want us to see if we can flip that information out of that?
1. A. I DON’T, I DON’T KNOW IF IT ARCHIVES OR NOT. I MEAN…I
2. Q. Well the techs are here, I mean if we, if you want us to look um, we
3. can take advantage of that time.
4. A. Yeah I mean I think it might jog some of the things that I might
5. remember.
6. (DETECTIVE HUSSEY)
7. Q. Sure.
8. (DETECTIVE EDWARDS)
9. Q. Let me walk that down there real quick if you don’t mind.
10. A. Okay.
11. Q. Then while we’re in here doing that they can be, if they, did you
12. notice if Stenger’s door was open?
13. (DETECTIVE HUSSEY)
14. Q. I did not. Want me to go check?
15. A. HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? [really?? time matters if the information could help save Caylee's life???]
16. (DETECTIVE EDWARDS)
17. Q. Um yeah.
18. (DETECIVE HUSSEY)
19. Q. I’ll take the phone.
20. (DETECTIVE EDWARDS)
21. Q. It should, just ask him how long he thinks. That might, they might not
22. even have that model in the hardware.
23. A. WELL I NEED MY PHONE BACK, I DON’T WANT…
24. (DETECTIVE HUSSEY)
25. Q. (Inaudible), we’ll bring it right back.
1. A. WELL….
2. (DETECTIVE EDWARDS)
3. Q. (Inaudible).
4. A. JUST LIKE MY COMPUTER AND MY (laughter) EVERYTHING… [BINGO, MAURA]
5. Q. You’ll have it back shortly. I just, if we can get those uh, text
6. messages um, and extend that curiosity to you.
7. A. WELL I THOUGHT YOU GUYS HAD CASEY’S TEXT MESSAGES. [From where? the SIM card that she switched/lost/???]
8. Q. We have a great deal of them [from OTHER sources like her carrier and her friends' cell phones] yeah but the ones….
9. A. I was gonna say, I mean if you had specifically….
10. Q. This week…
11. A. …from here through June I can certainly tell you what we were talking
12. about and what, my phone, because they would be related to any
13. phone conversations that might not show up. CAUSE YOU CAN’T, YOU DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO PHONE CONVERSATIONS, RIGHT? JUST RECORDS? [this line hit my trip wire--this is where Cindy reveals that she is concerned about them seeing communications between her and Casey during the "30 days"]
15. Q. If, if we had, right. Well the…
16. A. I MEAN, DON’T YOU JUST HAVE THE DIALED NUMBERS? [trip wire on HIGH alert now]
17. Q. There’s also some issues with text. We don’t necessarily when we
18. do subpoenas get the text. They don’t you know unless that saved
19. somewhere. So most of the luck we’re having, like let’s say Amy’s
20. phone for instance, we were, the luck that we had the there was
21. some way some how her phone saved 2800.
22. A. WOW. [HOLY S**T, is what she probably meant]
23. Q. Text messages. I didn’t know you can communicate with that many
24. people that often without you know actually calling them. But um,
25. maybe, if they have luck with that today…
1. A. Yeah.
2. Q. …maybe if you go through that it’ll spark your memory.
3. A. I have rarely texted before cause I don’t have one, I didn’t have text
4. messaging on my phone number one bill. But I noticed that Casey
5. started texting me more because it seemed like she was having a
6. hard time explaining things to me when I’d ask her about Caylee. So
7. it seems like it, she would cut me off and be more short and, and use
8. the text. So I mean that, that was more in June and July. Like I said I
9. hardly ever used my text before and I text Lee now and stuff but.
10. Q. So it was harder for her to make up locations the child might
11. be?
12. A. I don’t know, I’m not saying that I’m just, I don’t know. It just seemed
13. like it was more evident, I mean June and July I was getting more
14. texting from her and less actual phone conversations with her.
******
Anyway- Cindy’s “helpfulness” was suspect in many ways during LE interviews, but this one caught my eye regarding her obvious concern that txt msgs/other similar msgs (emails, posts, for instance) could be discovered at this date.
If you go back and read Maura’s post, you will see how there is actually forensic evidence of it.
******
Forgive me if I am not being clear.
It’s been a long day–I FLEW thru the Anthony House on SECOND LIFE–/long night–am just back from a dinner out,which involved more than an ample supply of wine.
Sweet Dreams to All
Silver-
Vino is Keeno, I always say-
To your point, I “hone” in on the call Cindy took from Scott Bolin. Who can think that was not planned? It was an exercise for obvious asessment purposes. Not to be glib, but the joke was on her.. It’s in the DNA
B
OK– I need some sleep!!
Not a typo on your part, Maura–
just a late night for me.
But as you keenly point out, Cindy was in major stonewalling mode early on.
(i hope this gets posted before you have to bother explaining/before everyone else has to wonder what the H is going on)
WAIT. Hold the phone.
Maura–
When do you surmise that email (containing the hot flash/not sure who to believe about someone having been in the house, etc) was sent??
Am I reading your post correctly, or ?? (you have far more expertise than I about the computer forensics)
OK.
I am going to get some sleep before I lose it.
How do I get invited to “virtual juror” on Second Life?
Thanks – Kathy
Blink – where’s my post asking Maura about the email with Cindy? Did I say something wrong?
Maura meant the 15th not the 16. I was going to ask her about it – but I see she had the revised date later in her post.
Gosh Blink – sometimes its so cryptic – and I’m not the dullest bulb on the christmas tree. But I feel left out and don’t get it.
Lily, what can I help you with, friend?
B
I meant to reference comment #204
Sorry. Yes, this:
“very early morning of Tuesday, July 16, less than 24 hours before Cindy called 911″
Should have been:
“very early morning of Tuesday, July 15, less than 24 hours before Cindy called 911.”
As I wrote elsewhere in that comment:
“As noted, there is no date for the Yahoo email fragment, but there’s enough information in the fragment to date it with confidence to the early morning hours of July 15 (about twelve hours before they got the car from Johnson’s).
On Monday, July 14, the local Orlando channels (WFTV, WESH, etc.) were reporting the sale of Anheuser-Busch and the impact of the sale on central Florida theme parks. The “can’t sleep” reference in the email fragment must mean the email was being written very late on July 14 or in the early morning hours of July 15. Cindy left a message on Casey’s MySpace page at 12:13am on July 15 (message unknown), so she likely sent the Yahoo email around the same time.”
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Sorry for the confusion! That was the worst possible thing to err on in that post.
In the comment, I was referring to Casey’s stonewalling (of Cindy), but Cindy was certainly telling “untruths” very early in the investigation, and IMO, she was attempting to get rid of any written evidence that could contradict the version of events she was feeding LE (mainly in saying Casey’s excuses were reasonable to her and she didn’t see any red flags).
She was terribly sneaky in that August 4 interview in pretending not to know that her phone archived messages. How would explain why so few text messages were archived on her phone, all having been sent in the two days prior to the download? What happened to all the text messages sent to her before August 2?
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The following HP usage details were lifted from JWG’s March computer forensics comments on WS.
JWG noticed the HP internet temporary file history before June 27 had been deleted as was the history from July 2-9.
July 15 into July 16 HP Temporary Files and other events:
Cindy made the first 911 call at 8:08pm to OPD when she and Casey were at the closed OPD neighborhood substation. Cindy was told to go home first with Casey and then call OCSO for a deputy.
When Cindy arrived at the Anthony house with Casey, Lee was there, having been called by George and asked to go home. Lee talked to Casey per his statement and tried to get her to say exactly where Caylee was.
Cindy lost patience and made the second 911 call of the night and first 911 call to OCSO at 8:44pm.
There was no HP desktop activity on July 15 until 8:47 PM, when about 40 seconds of AIM activity occurred. JWG’s belief is this is when the computer was powered on, and AIM automatically launched. Nothing happened for 1 1/2 hours until around 10:15pm. Either Lee or Casey would likely have powered on the HP since Cindy was talking to OCSO at 8:47pm (unless Cindy was on her cell phone and multitasking). But Lee said he had gone into the living room, so Casey may have booted up the desktop since her room is next to the guest room where the HP is set up. (Source: JWG)
Cindy made her third (frantic) 911 call at 9:41pm. George came home around 9:43pm (he’s on the 911 tape), and responding deputies arrived at the end of the 4 minute, 29 second call (so around 9:46pm). Deputies Ryan Eberlin and Adriana Acevedo were apparently the first responders (their signatures are at the bottom of the written statements provided by George, Cindy, Lee, and Casey).
Lee testified that the deputies separated Cindy and George from Lee and Casey. He said he and Casey waited in the garage while Cindy and George were being interviewed inside the house. Lee said he and Casey could hear everything being said.
10:11pm – Time stamp on OCSO statement for Cindy (Adriana Acevedo signed it).
10:16pm – Time stamp on OCSO statements for George (Adriana Acevedo signed it).
10:16pm – Time stamp on OCSO statements for Lee (Ryan Eberlin signed it).
At 10:15pm, activity on the HP resumed. Per JWG, for the next five minutes it appears there were repeated attempts to log into KC’s ATT wireless account, culminating in a visit to the “lost password” page to presumably have a new password sent to her email account. A successful login to Yahoo may have occurred at this time. Given that Casey had told 911 she received a call from Caylee around noon but did not have her phone with her, she may have been at the computer with a deputy and conveniently “forgot” her password, so the records could not be retrieved for OCSO. (Source: JWG)
10:30pm – HP activity resumed after a 10-minute lull. An attempt is made to either register with or log into an existing “Lava Life” account. This lasted for about a minute (JWG thinks Lee was looking at the internet history). Attempts were then made to log into Facebook (unsuccessfully). (Source: JWG)
10:43pm – a successful attempt to log into Casey’s MySpace is made (MySpace Page ID #10472558). For the next 10 minutes comments and inbox messages are viewed. (Source: JWG)
10:57pm – a successful attempt to log into Facebook is made, although the account is not clear from the file path. Numerous photos are viewed for the next 3 minutes. Activity stops. (Source: JWG)
11:00pm – an OCSO deputy left for Tony Lazzaro’s to get her cell phone. Tony said it was a male deputy, and Deputy Ryan Eberlin’s report indicates that Deputy Ryan Williams was sent to Tony Lazzaro’s apartment to search the residence and get Casey’s cell phone.
**Around the same time, Deputy Corporal Rendon Fletcher was sent to Sawgrass to check with the night management and learned that the apartment Casey mentioned had been vacant for months and that none of the names provided by Casey were on the lease.
11:15pm – a return to Facebook with what appears to be a single upload. (Source: JWG)
11:19pm – a second attempt to login to the ATT wireless account. (Source: JWG)
11:23-11:35pm – a rapid-fire mixture of MySpace and Photobucket views. On Photobucket, it is images. On MySpace, it is images and messages. (Source: JWG)
11:35-11:50pm – many, many views of Facebook photos after what appears to be a successful login. (Source: JWG)
11:55pm – OCSO deputy Ryan Williams returned from Tony’s with Casey’s phone and began calling through Casey’s contact list. (Source: JWG)
July 16, shortly after midnight, Lee left for Tony’s to collect Casey’s things.
12:45am – Yuri Melich was called by Sgt. Reggie Hosey and notified of a missing child case. I don’t know if Hosey was at the Anthony house or had been called by a deputy at the residence.
1:05am – Time stamp on Casey’s OCSO statement (Ryan Eberlin signed it).
1:40am – HP computer appears to reboot (this is JWG’s wording, and it’s unclear to me whether the HP had been shut down earlier or if the HP powered down automatically due to lack of activity or what). If the reboot was manual, it could NOT have been Lee. (Source: JWG)
2:25am – Lee returned to the Anthony home and dumped Casey’s belongings on the living room floor. He and Cindy went through Casey’s things while a deputy walked in and out of the room. Lee said it was a female deputy, so unless additional LEO’s had responded, it was Adriana Acevedo.
2:32am – successful login to Yahoo mail. Activity stops at 2:34 (possibly after seeing no email exists). This could have been Lee because we know he checked her Yahoo account, but if he’s going through Casey’s things, it’s someone else. Perhaps he checked the Yahoo account before dumping Casey’s things out. (Source: JWG)
3:30am, Yuri Melich arrives per his July 22 bond hearing testimony.
4:11am – Time stamp at the start of Casey’s recorded interviewed by Yuri Melich at the Anthony house (they had a conversation prior to the recorded interview). The interview lasts about 20 minutes.
4:30-5:00am – Casey and Detective Melich went on a tour of ZG’s last three residences in Orlando. This was Casey’s second tour since midnight according to the reports, but there is no information in the reports released to day regarding what time the first tour took place. Melich noted in a search warrant that they drove to Sawgrass and Casey took Melich to the same stairwell she had pointed out to deputies earlier that night.
At 5:09am – the HP computer is powered up, but no real activity until 5:18 when the MSN website is brought up. One of the very first things done here is to go to the white pages search off this site and enter “aida” as a first name and “Fernandez-Gonzalez” as the last name. Someone searches referral sites USsearch.com and Reunion.com for ZFG. (Source: JWG)
Activity is very sparse from about 5:25am to 1:40pm. (Source: JWG)
6:30-11:30am – There is nothing in the discovery to indicate whether any LEOs were still at the Anthony house, but my gut says they had all left the house by the time Casey was dropped off at 6:30am. No charges had been filed, her cell phone had been returned to her, she was with her parents (who had called 911), and the detectives were investigating her story.
6:48am – Casey sent a text to Tony saying she had just returned home from the drive-around. They exchanged text messages until around 7:30, then she called and talked to him until 8:03am.
8:00-11:30am – Cindy testified that she and Casey worked in the morning on sending text messages to Casey’s friends. In her 11pm jail call to the Anthony home later that night, Casey told Kristina Chester that she had created the Help Find Caylee/Caylee is Missing MySpace page earlier in the day. This would have been the site that had been Casey’s Kayseeomaree MySpace. Casey sent text messages to friends around 10am telling them Caylee had been missing for 32 days and to contact her with information.
11:30am – Casey received a call from OCSO (Yuri) asking her if she would agree to meet the detectives at Universal to show them her office; she called back immediately, spoke for 5.5 minutes to Detective Melich on speakerphone. Yuri Melich was at Universal Studios with Universal Investigator Leonard Turtora. Turtora had checked the databases and determined that Casey Anthony had not worked at Universal Studios since 2006. On speakerphone, Casey confirmed that she had a job at Universal as an event planner and gave Melich the name of a boss who did not work there according to Turtora and an office extension number that did not exist according to Turtora. Casey was unable to provide the building number or location of her office. When Detective Melich asked if she had her current work identification card, she said she didn’t know where it was. She agreed to meet detectives at Universal to show them her office.
11:52am – George’s Epass records showed he was on the road (Beline then airport then Goldenrod, the same tolls he had taken to go to his shift at the Premier Theater the night before). Did he go to work?
12:30pm – Casey was picked up at the Anthony house by John Allen and Appie Wells and taken to Universal. She would not return to the Anthony house until August 21. IMO it is likely that only Cindy and Lee were in the Anthony house after Casey was picked up.
From 1:40pm to 2:00pm or so there are multiple HP searches on multiple sites for combinations of “Cheryl Davis” “East Coast Universal” and “Battle of the Bands” – all of which were names and phrases from Casey’s “work” emails that she had given to Cindy. (Source: JWG)
After a brief pause of 20 minutes or so, work began on the Caylee is Missing MySpace page. (Source: JWG)
2:43pm and 2:51pm – searches are conducted for missing children’s websites. JWG believes the searches were conducted by Lee (looking for information/layout ideas) as he worked on the Caylee is Missing/Help Find Caylee website.
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It could have been one of the LEOs in the house looking at MySpace and Facebook pages who saw the My Caylee is Missing and Diary of Days entries. The date at the bottom of those screen shots in the discovery is July 16, but I cannot see that there were any MySpace searches after midnight on the HP. My guess is either the LEO who saw those pages called someone at OCSD and the pages were printed from a location outside the Anthony house soon after the LEO saw them or the pages were printed on the evening of July 16 when the laptop was being searched.
As noted upthread, there is no time-stamp on the pages in discovery, and there is nothing in the discovery to indicate when Cindy’s My Caylee is Missing post was deleted. That post was found in the HP’s unallocated space, which means it was probably a deleted file. The HP was picked up at noon on July 17. If I knew what time on July 16 the screen shot of Cindy’s MySpace was printed, I’d have a better idea of when Cindy was on the HP deleting stuff.
Thanks Maura, excellent presentation of complicated data. Boggles my mind still.
B
Blink
I tried sending you and email and it was bounced.
We all think that the defense and (maybe the state) read here. (Sometimes I think they post too. IMO only).
Are you concerned about them going to SL, or do you guys basically not care? I guess it wouldn’t make a difference.
I would like to go back on the site, but I have some serious computer memory drain, so I’m not sure that I will.
Silver & Maura
Your last posts were a bit spine chilling. Good work.
hmm, maybe server glitch? Dunno, but I am prob 100 emails behind sadly. No, we are not concerned at all, they have the same info we do. Both sides read here, how do you think Ms. Burdick found out about Tony Padilla’s bogus agreement presented by Baez? It is buried in a return comment of mine weeks ago.
B
I wonder if anyone witnessed this break down at work.
And what of the rumored boyfriend from work? Whose testimony did we learn that from? Was it the PI or the neighbor, or just rumor. Maybe it was a posting under Larry King’s blog, anyone?
It seems that an interview with him could reveal a lot of background on the family leading up to Caylee’s death. And if she was still close to him and if he still worked there during the 30 plus days and counting, he could possibly reveal a more honest appraisal of what Cindy was going through while Caylee was missing vs her TV interviews where she states she had no concern or red flags.
Blink, I’m copying Angela’s post to this thread , since so many people ask question about SL:
Comment by Angela Talamasca — August 19, 2009 @ 12:38 pm
Hi all, I have created a section on our VR Hacks forum (see http://forum.vrhacks.net) to help with second life particulars and provide a centralized place to discuss/follow the crime scene recreation developments.
Please be sure to check out the “tutorial” section under the “virtual juror” category for instructions on how to create your accounts.
Once your accounts are ready, you can IM me “in-world” (just do a ctrl+f for find and select the people tab, and search for “Angela Talamasca”) and/or IM me from your forum account.
Please be sure to let me know you’re a Blink follower and wish to be added to the virtual juror group. At which point I will add you to both the forum and second life virtual juror group.
And finally, once you’re in, feel free to discuss the crime scene builds in the virtual juror group chat and/or under the caylee anthony section in the virtual juror forum.
I will add a poll for what to do with the 3rd platform later today.
Other questions? Please feel free to contact me in-world or via the forum.
Sorry for all the typos and misuse of words, I haven’t had coffee.
Blink, in your honest opinion, do you think that Casey will eventually confess and provide the details of her actions, either before, during, or after the state presents every piece of evidence that points to none other than her?
Nope. I have answered this in detail several times previously. She is going to finger one or both of her parents who will plead the fifth as a result and she will end up with a death sentence because her smarmy lawyer is no different than a talent agent. They will all get their cut and she will rot in the pokey.
B
Blink
If Lyons is unsuccessful in getting the death penalty off the table, do you think that she would recommend to Casey that she seek a plea deal? (I’m not saying Casey would take it) Or is the path already set in stone; meaning Lyons was signed on to the case, as opposed to her DP predecessor, because she would take the case all the way through and not look for a plea? (Not that the state is offering one either).
Silver
Are you familiar with many cases where attorneys attempt to remove the death penalty option before a case is tried? If so, how many are successful? It seems unusual to me. Is she pushing to have the state reveal everything (theories, etc) that they have before trial? My understanding was that the laws would determine whether the death penalty could be considered. Doesn’t this have to do with the homicide of a child in combination with the negligence charge? How does Lyons get past that? Is it likely that Strickland would remove the death penalty?
She will not be, imo, it is all for not. I have no concerns in that regard whatsoever. Trying to make this a legislative endeavor, when it is a case involving the murder of a toddler, is going to backfire
BB
Maura
THANK YOU. It’s so much easier to get the full scope of what was transpiring when you put all the info together like that!
Silver
What happens now if an original copy of that contract never makes its way to the state? How can they submit anything to the bar without proof?
Can T Padilla’s statements alone be reason and cause to make a complaint?
Does anybody know exactly where the dogs hit in the Anthony’s back yard? The cones in the picture indicate only one area. I was under the impression that they hit on three different locations. If anyone has this information, or can post a link to it, I would appreciate it. I have been searching, but am only finding people’s opinions, not the real evidence. Thank you
Does LE know how to handle George and Cindy, meaning they are aware of the lies, deceit, etc? I wish they would stop codling these cons and start playing hardball, not accepting anything less than absolute truth and cooperation
#223Todd
I think all involved are handling them quite well. You know the old adage “Give ‘em enough rope”….
What happens to Cindy & George later will depend very much on the honesty of their testimony in court. Everyone is basically awaiting for that.
awaiting that…not for that..
#222 mjh-I didn’t find any official reports. All I could find was Cindy’s statements to “On the Record”
VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing now with missing Caylee Anthony’s grandparents, and for the first time, you will see the back yard that crime scene investigators dug up looking for evidence after Caylee vanished.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
CINDY ANTHONY: I was told that the dog was inconsistent on a hit here and…
VAN SUSTEREN: Here being right here at the house?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. And inconsistent where her sandbox was.
VAN SUSTEREN: Which is where?
CINDY ANTHONY: Where it’s at now, roughly.
VAN SUSTEREN: Oh, is this the sandbox?
CINDY ANTHONY: That’s the sandbox.
VAN SUSTEREN: That has a cover on it. OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So there was — there was an inconsistent alert here.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, an inconsistent alert over in the corner of the house.
VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning over behind — near the pool?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, so they never had, as you understand it, an alert. They rather had an inconsistent one.
CINDY ANTHONY: They had an inconsistent alert, so that’s why they explained to us why the brought the second cadaver dog in. The second dog did not alert in the same spots that they did.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did not?
CINDY ANTHONY: Did not.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did not. All right. Did…
CINDY ANTHONY: And there was nothing that they found that had any — you know, that they came up with any evidence.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html
were, not was…uuh
2 part video “On the record” from august 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963775&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963763&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html
I wonder how “devoted” George and Cindy will be when things go array and Casey points to them as the culprits?
There is a MUST SEE post by Maura on the last thread # 691. It is truly awesome, (and I mean that in the true sense, not the way that it has become a catch phrase and tossed about indiscriminately)
Blink, I’m confused… Earlier you stayed you didn’t think this case would make it to trial, but now you think she will blame her parents, etc at trial. Have you changed your thoughts on this? I probably misunderstood something along the way!
No KTINA, your correct, my opinion was based on IF this goes to trial, which I still say will not.
B
#204, 205, 206 silver…..Would you give that scenario more than Five Fishy’s, say 8 Fishy’s and 2 dam dirty ape’s perhaps? Yep, me too. LOL
Maura-
THANK YOU. (for the clarification, AND for the very telling additional analysis)
Agreed- Casey was stonewalling Cindy (which will not bode well for any plan to blame Cindy for the crime, if that is, indeed, the plan).
However, Cindy was stonewalling LE (which does bode well for any plan to blame Cindy for the crime, if that is, indeed, the plan).
So Tuesday, July 15th, (early morning hrs) Cindy sends that email excerpt, questioning whether Casey was in the house that day, on Monday, July 14th, between the hours of 9am-6:30pm (George’s work shift). Instead of just confronting Casey with that directly, she says she doesn’t know who to believe anymore. But what this shows is that she had, at the very least, reason to suspect that Casey was in ORLANDO, and NOT in Jacksonville.
Now, when you take that knowledge, and you read through all of her statements to LE (OCSO/FBI) about where she believed or had reason to believe Casey was, you can rate her level of deception (because not once did she mention any suspicion about where Casey was vs. where Casey SAID she was).
Here it is, from the same 8/4/08 Interview:
A. And all this week they were always doing something. They were either out on the boat, going swimming, there was times that she told me she was at Target with Jeff going shopping. That um, Caylee and Zack [Jeffrey Hopkins] were, Zack is Jeff’s son, was staying with, or his mom was watch, babysitting them and things like that. And that’s why whenever I called Caylee wasn’t with Casey to put Caylee on the phone. So there was always a reason. So. And then I can’t remember why, on the 14th what excuse she had on the 14th why they weren’t coming home. I ONLY REMEMBER TALKING, I KNOW I TALKED TO HER ON THE 14TH, but I have no idea because from here on out you know is… Q. Uh huh (Affirmative). A. …when everything went down. I MEAN I KNOW I SPOKE WITH HER ON THE 14TH, BUT I CAN’T REMEMBER. IT WASN’T ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT.
Q. And so they stayed in Jacksonville this whole week here too you think?
A. THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID. IN FACT, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION SHE WAS IN JACKSONVILLE THE DAY WE FOUND THE CAR. THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN JACKSONVILLE.
Right. Nothing “significant” happened on the 14th. And right. She was in Jacksonville.
And notice- she claims that she actually spoke with Casey on the 14th, which is clearly contradicted by that email (where she expresses disappointment that Casey called the house during Cindy’s work hrs, i.e when she knew that Cindy was not home).
This is but one example (of almost too many to count) of Cindy Anthony’s intentional deception vis-a-vis OCSO (all the while CURSING at them, accusing THEM of not doing their jobs).
On a scale of 1 to 10, this scores a “perfect 10″ (and not the fake “Zanny” kind) of just how intentionally deceptive, because it is so recent/so close to the time she reported Caylee as “missing”.
Do we have ping info for 7/14/08-7/15/08?
Was Casey hitting the towers that cover Hopespring during that day? She must have taken or disturbed something such that Cindy suspected her of having been there during those hours.
Tuesday, 7/15/08 at approximately 9-9:30, Chris Stutz says he believes he saw Casey running on Chickasaw. If it was the 15th, after she got that email from Cindy, she was nervous that Cindy was catching on, and likely went back to check on the body/ went for a “run”/”jog”, because it would have been too risky to park Amy’s car by the dump site. If this was, in fact, Casey, it was likely closer to 9am, since there is forensic evidence of email activity between Casey and Mark Hawkins around 10:15a.m.
We only have a fragment of Cindy’s email, correct?
If Casey was back over there on the 15th, perhaps checking on the dump site, my guess is that something else in that email from Cindy provoked her to do so. Not that we will ever know what that was if that portion of the email was not recovered. (But perhaps it was, and we are not privy to it at this point).
#204 silver just to elaborate on my last post, we have a local radio station that reviews movies on a damm dirty ape system. 5 damm dirty ape’s being very very poor on performance and plot.
westsidehudson #219
It is not unusual in the least for defense counsel to file a Motion to Bar the State (or, here in PA, the “Commonwealth”) from Seeking the Death Penalty.
Remember, this is the “ultimate” penalty which can be imposed. If there is ANY basis upon which to challenge the Death Notice, it should/must –as a matter of professional obligation/duty to the client–be raised.
Failure to do so can result in reversal on appeal for “ineffective assistance of counsel”, among other things.
Counsel for the defendant must assert all legal challenges –both State and Federal– that can be lodged.
Here is the Florida statute governing the Death Sentence for Capital Felonies.
How, on earth, will Lyon get around the Aggravating Circumstance set forth in 921.141 (5)(l): The victim of the capital felony was a person less than 12 years of age.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0921/Sec141.HTM
#226 WSH your link didn’t work for me but if memory serves, that interview took place on 8/6/08 correct? Interesting to note that on 8/5/08 there was a tip and a cadaver dog search near the school and b) there was a 3rd search on the anthony home on 8/6/08. Hmmmmm.
silverspnr makes a good point about why it’s critical and necessary for the defense to challenge the DP decision, and to make extra sure the state has its facts straight when going after this most irreversible of punishments. Saw this disturbing article the other day:
After Texas inmate is executed, review finds there may have been no crime at all
By STEVE MILLS
Chicago Tribune
In a withering critique, a nationally known fire scientist has told a state commission on forensics that Texas fire investigators had no basis to rule that a deadly house fire was arson — a finding that led to the murder conviction and execution of Cameron Todd Willingham.
snip
The report concludes there was no evidence to determine that the December 1991 fire was even set, and it leaves open the possibility that the blaze, which killed three children, was an accident and that there was no crime at all — the same results found in a Chicago Tribune investigation of the case published in December 2004.
snip
Willingham, the father of those children, was executed by lethal injection in February 2004. He protested his innocence to the end.
snip
Among Beyler’s key findings: that investigators failed to examine all the electrical outlets and appliances in the Willingham house in Corsicana, did not consider other potential causes for the fire, came to conclusions that contradicted the witnesses at the scene, and wrongly concluded that Willingham’s injuries could not have been caused as he said they were.
much more at link http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1561425.html
westsidehudson #221
It doesn’t appear that anyone (perhaps other than Baez) ever held the original contract, or a copy of same.
The fact that a party to the contract has asserted a claim that the true agreement was not properly memorialized, and that Baez attached, as an exhibit to a Motion filed with the court, an allegedly altered version of the real agreement, is sufficient for a party to the contract to file a grievance complaint.
The authority to file a Formal Complaint in a disciplinary proceeding against Baez rests with the Florida Bar, who shall not do so unless there is first a finding that probable cause exists to believe that he is guilty of conduct justifying disciplinary action, etc (there are a host of other bases upon which the Florida Bar may file a Formal Complaint).
Each judicial circuit in the State of Florida has at least one grievance committee. Each grievance committee has at least 3 members, one of whom is a non-attorney. All attorneys who sit on grievance committees must have at least 5 yrs of membership of the Florida Bar.
VIOLATION OF THE RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT as adopted by the Rules governing the Florida Bar IS A CAUSE FOR DISCIPLINE.
The commission by a lawyer of any act that is unlawful OR CONTRARY TO HONESTY AND JUSTICE…may constitute a cause for discipline.
There are several disciplinary measures that may be imposed after a finding of misconduct, including admonishments (only applies to minor misconduct), probation, (can include monitoring of the lawyer’s work, in whole or in part; supervision over fees and trust accounts; completion of practice and professionalism enhancement program, etc, etc), public reprimand, suspension, and disbarment.
The Florida Rules of Professional Conduct at play here are:
Rule 4-3.3 CANDOR TOWARD THE TRIBUNAL, particularly subsection (a)False Evidence; Duty to Disclose
Rule 4-3.4 FAIRNESS TO OPPOSING PARTY AND COUNSEL
I encourage anyone who is interested to read these Rules, including the Comments to the Rules.
http://www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBResources.nsf/Attachments/0A266C6138C4A15685256B29004BD617/$FILE/RRTFB%20CHAPTER%204.pdf?OpenElement
boo #234
thanks for the clarification=) i will go along with your 8 fishys and 2 dam dirty apes per #232–lol!
WSH & MJH – I heard when we were in Second Life a couple of days ago that they were going to put the ‘cone markers’ in the 5 spots where the dogs hit in the backyard. I believe I saw a description of where those were somewhere too. I will look today to see if I can find it.
Silverspnr, you mentioned Cindy’s story of Casey’s story of ‘going on a boat’. Cindy was concerned always about Casey following all these safety measures, even to the point of locking the shed and not just putting the key out of Caylee’s reach, but out of Casey’s reach too, by hiding it’s location from her. (and surely she did not know where the key was when she had to break into the shed, unless this was some plot to use Tony, or keep that option open if needed in the future– ie: if he backed out on their relationship perhaps).
All that ‘safety’ and all the ‘pool safety’– ladder, ‘how to’ enter the pool with baby, the swimmies and or floatie ‘swim aids’ for a toddler learning to float and swim while IMMEDIATELY SUPERVISED by ADULTS. None of the ‘pool gear’ that we’ve seen (and maybe the US has lax laws regulating ‘life-jackets’ or other ‘floatation devices’– but I doubt it) would be classified as a ‘life-jacket’ or ‘regulation floatation device’ that would be approved (in Canada anyway) for use on a child ‘in a boat’.
The Anthony’s did not, apparently own a boat, nor was there any discussion about the family going ‘boating’, or ownership of a ‘real’ life-jacket vs what amount to ‘pool toys’ that would be useless in a boat, should an accident occur in a boat, on an inland waterway or on the open ocean. A growing child needs an approved life-vest that 1. ‘fits’, 2. is approved by (federal, coast guard?), 3. that is in good condition to do what it’s designed to do, etc., so that the will keep that child safely afloat in an upright position to breathe until rescue, even if the child is not conscious, and even in rough seas.
I can’t believe that Cindy would not question Casey about the safety ‘gear’ that Casey would use for Caylee– IF you are ‘borrowing’ something, what are the chances it will be a proper fit, and what condition is it in– is it compromised in ANY way. Is it too big, and would Casey even know, or just make assumptions based on what was available to ‘meet regulations’, just use something that happened to be in the boat.
Cindy likely talked to Jeff more than we know– the ‘real’ Jeff. Maybe she was trying to figure how if Casey was telling her the truth by asking questions to which she already knew the answer to (“are you still staying with Jeff?’ and prodding the ‘are you working’ idea with questions about the corporate moves of the big theme park companies, including ‘Universal’. Cindy could be judging quality of ‘truth’ from Casey by her answers. We don’t know the answers given to Cindy, if any.
No proper, dedicated ‘life-jacket’ for a 2 year old toddler being taken ‘in a boat’ (where there would certainly be beer– even if Casey was never one to take a drink, what about the boat operator?) is a huge thing for these grandparents to be concerned about when they do not even trust their daughter to have a key to their garden shed.
George had to have resources to find Casey, he could have gone to Casey’s friends, Lee knew Jesse and Casey were ‘keeping up’ with each other, George didn’t like Jesse, but he must have known that Jesse cared for the baby and her safety if she was off somewhere with Casey and he could have been recruited to help via texting and email etc. If that didn’t work, George could have asked for help somewhere, from someone, even his security friends– keep an eye out for this licence and car, minimally.
One more thing, would the Anthony’s server have been set to delete emails IMMEDIATELY upon download of individual messages, or would they have set it to save copies on the server for a period of days before deletion? (presumably there was a limit to the space on their ISP server, so they couldn’t just keep everything forever without getting a ‘full’ mailbox and they did use the server a LOT it seems).
If the messages were kept for a period of time, there may have been messages on the ISP server. Would there be any way for the FBI resources, etc, to obtain the server’s records, even deleted copies? Is that possible or practical? IE: would the unallocated spaces be easily searched for a computer’s ISP, or ‘possibly’ searched if the reason were serious enough?
#231
OK Blink on your statement:
“No KTINA, your correct, my opinion was based on IF this goes to trial, which I still say will not. B”
what is your best guestament as to and end to this nightmare? I would love to have seen and end to this YESTERDAY!!!! what will finaly bring and end to this?
woud love your thouhts, sorry if I missed it in prior postings.
thanks!
Good Lord!!! Thanks for the heads up, Mariann! I’ll be making sure I’m wearing clean underwear without any holes before I get anywhere near Second Life!!! What happened to the good ole days when you could sit around blogging in a frumpy old bathrobe and slippers?
I am going to echo what WSH said about Maura’s post #691 on the previous Anthony thread. It is a MUST READ – she apologizes for it being long – I say none of Maura’s posts are too long.
Maura – I don’t know who you are or what you do but I hope you make a living (a good one) doing something that uses your awesome skills. You should be on the payroll at OSCO.
#218
Blink, your post on 218 states the following
“Nope. I have answered this in detail several times previously. She is going to finger one or both of her parents who will plead the fifth as a result and she will end up with a death sentence because her smarmy lawyer is no different than a talent agent. They will all get their cut and she will rot in the pokey. B”
finger her parents, plea (not going to trial, my 236 post)?
my question will she plea and this not go to trial? or, finger GA & CIN-A during trial????
confused????
thanks!
# 237
suz
If Lyons were to argue a case to enact legislative changes, in my opinion, it would be better if she focused on the one that you highlighted, or any other where it was proven that the sentenced was innocent. On a personal level, I couldn’t be a juror on a death penalty case, but I respect other people’s opinions, and don’t know how I would feel about the penalty if I had a family member that was murdered.
# 236-sorry boo, just google “Cindy Anthony “On the record”:, or the other way around. It will bring you to the transcript page, and the videos are on the left.
# 241- As usual, good common sense points Kleat.
# 240-Lily, When you are in Second life, will you please ask Angela if there is a way to “clear the cache” from that program. I would like to go back, but have had a drain on computer memory. I think that is why I get “frozen” and can’t move.
In the days just before Cindy’s 911 call, Casey was claiming to be in Jacksonville and said her car had been with Jeff’s mechanic until Thursday, July 10. She and Caylee were going to drive home on Friday, July 11, but then Jeff decided to drive to Orlando on Saturday, July 12 and wanted to follow Casey’s car to make sure she got home safely. Cindy told the FBI that on Friday, July 11, Cindy didn’t call Casey. Since Cindy didn’t call Casey, Casey called Cindy to ask why she hadn’t called. Cindy told Casey there was no point because Casey had told Cindy that Casey and Caylee were not going to be home on Friday, July 11 but were going to be home on Saturday, July 12. On July 12, Casey didn’t come home. Cindy was irritated, but Casey’s excuse was that Jeff’s mom wanted to take them out to breakfast and out on a boat.
Casey’s cell records and available text messages support the phone patterns Cindy described to the FBI.
Friday, July 11:
8:49pm Casey called the Anthony landline. This was their only telephonic communication of the day.
Saturday, July 12:
1:47pm Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from the Anthony landline
3:42pm Cindy sent text to Casey: “R u coming home 2day?”
4:45pm Cindy sent text to Casey (message unavailable on Casey’s text message records – possibly deleted?)
5:42pm Casey sent text to Cindy (no message available)
11:00pm Cindy sent text to Casey: (message unavailable on Casey’s text message records – possibly deleted?)
Sunday, July 13:
1:02am Casey sent text to Cindy (no message available)
1:02am Cindy sent text to Casey: “Ok”
9:58am Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from Cindy’s cell
10:23am Casey sent a text to Cindy (no message available)
10:33am Cindy sent text to Casey: “Last minute?”
11:19am Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from Cindy’s cell
11:37am Casey sent text to Cindy (no message available)
I assume it was on Sunday afternoon that Cindy and George saw the notice from the USPS, dated July 11, that had been left on their front door saying a certified letter from “Johnson’s” was waiting for them at the PO.
Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from Cindy’s cell at 7:35pm
Monday, July 14:
7:35am Cindy sent text to Casey: “Remember me?”
8:21am Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from George. (She had taken a 5.5-minute call from George’s cell on July 8 at 9:00am and apparently had no additional phone contact with him until he tried to call her on the morning of July 14.)
8:30am-6:30pm George had a meeting with Andrews International on Monday, so he couldn’t go to the PO to pick up the certified letter. If Cindy was referring to Monday, July 14 in the email fragment as I believe she was, then George had worked 9:00am to 6:00pm, which is why he had not been able to get to the PO until Tuesday, when he didn’t have to go in until 2:00pm. His Epass records confirm that he was hitting tolls at 6:14pm on June 14 on his way home. This account is also consistent with Debbie Bennett’s testimony that Cindy told Debbie on July 14 that she and George found the certified letter notice and that George could not get it until the next day because of his work schedule.
7:35am Cindy sent a text message to Casey: “Remember me?”
3:33pm Casey called the landline when she knew Cindy and George were both working and left a message (46 seconds)
5:45pm Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from the Anthony landline
5:49pm Casey retrieved a voice message (49 seconds) from the Anthony landline
6:11pm Casey sent a text message to Cindy’s cell phone (unknown message)
8:30pm Cindy sent Casey a text message: “Can u call me soon? Ill b going 2 bed soon.”
11:33pm Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from the Anthony landline
11:33pm Casey retrieved a voice mail (11 seconds) from Anthony landline
Tuesday, July 15:
12:12am Cindy left a message on Casey’s MySpace (Casey got a MySpace alert on her cell phone – the content of the MySpace message is unknown). I am guessing this is around the time that Cindy wrote and sent the Yahoo email referencing the impact of the Anheuser-Busch sale on central Florida theme parks.
11:00am is the approximate time George recalled leaving the house to pay two bills at Amscot and get the certified letter from the PO. It’s a 15-minute drive to the East Colonial Amscot, George was probably inside for 10 minutes, and it’s a 13-minute drive from Amscot to the Narcoossee PO branch.
11:45am George arrived at the Narcoossee PO, read the letter, and called Cindy.
11:55am Approximate time George arrived at Johnson’s Wrecker. He argued with Nicole Lett about the size of the bill. Nicole said it was probably a couple of hours between George’s two visits to Johnson’s that day, and he was paying the bill a couple of hours later at 2:00pm.
12:15pm Approximate time George called Cindy with the adjusted costs. George said he would go home for the registration and title while Cindy went to the bank. Cindy told George to bring gas cans just in case. It took George about seven minutes to drive home, and he said he waited at the house for about 30 minutes for Cindy.
Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from Cindy’s cell at 12:48pm
12:58p Casey called Cindy’s cell phone for 3.5 minutes (213 seconds)
1:11p Cindy called Casey’s cell for 1.3 minutes (89 seconds)
1:30p Approximate time that George and Cindy arrived together at Johnson’s.
2:15p Approximate time George and Cindy arrived home with the Pontiac. George removed the battery. Cindy removed the items that were in the trunk, sprayed Febreze on the trunk’s carpet liner, and threw Casey’s pants in the wash.
2:27p George on the 528 on his way to work (Epass records confirm).
2:45-3:00pm Cindy arrived back at Gentiva. Cindy must have gone back to Gentiva shortly after George left because Debbie Bennett recalled Cindy returning around 2:00pm, and it’s a 16-minute commute for Cindy. Debbie also said she talked to Cindy when Cindy returned but Debbie left work that day between 3:00-3:30pm, so Cindy must have left the Anthony house soon after George left.
4:00-5:00pm Cindy told LE that she believed this is when she returned to the house after returning to work briefly.
4:27p Cindy sent text message to Casey’s cell phone: “Call me asap major prob”
4:44p Casey sent text message to Cindy’s cell phone (unknown message)
4:45p Cindy sent text message to Casey’s cell phone: “Call me”
4:48p Casey sent text message to Cindy’s cell phone (unknown message)
4:53p Casey sent text to Amy: “I think your camera is at my parents. I’ll check later to be sure.”
5:22p Amy sent text to Casey: “No, it’s not. I must have put down the wrong address because it came back there. I’ll just have it sent to the boys house.”
5:30p Casey sent text to Amy: “Oh ok. My Mom had texted me something about it.”
5:31pm Casey’s cell records show she “missed” a call from Cindy’s cell
Cindy waited a bit and then called Amy Huizenga.
I think it’s fairly obvious that Casey was trying to get Cindy to describe the “major prob” via text, but Cindy wouldn’t tell her (and Casey wasn’t going to call without knowing). We have no way of knowing what Cindy and Casey discussed during the phone calls at 12:58pm and 1:11pm, but my guess is Cindy mentioned a certified letter but said nothing about learning that the Pontiac had been towed. I am surmising that Cindy wanted all the details from Johnson’s before she confronted Casey and that Cindy wanted a face-to-face confrontation. At the very least, she didn’t want to give Casey any warning about the towing until Cindy had the all the towing details lined up against a timeline of Casey’s stories during the same time period.
My reason for believing Cindy had not told Casey about the nature of the letter or recovery of the Pontiac is that only minutes after Cindy refused to tell Casey what the major problem was, Casey sent a text to Amy asking about her camera. That “camera” question was in reference to Amy’s question to Casey two weeks earlier after Amy found out that Casey wasn’t getting the Hopespring house after all:
June 29: Amy text to Casey: “Sorry! Hey, my camera is being shipped to your house. What should I do about that?”
June 29: Casey text to Amy: “How soon?”
June 29: Amy text to Casey: “I don’t know. Once it’s fixed?”
June 29: Casey text to Amy: “I wasn’t sure if it was already done. Have it sent to the house. I have a lot of details to fill you in on. I’ll call you later on.”
Casey knew George and Cindy had been very unhappy that Amy Huizenga had filed for a change of address on June 17 using 4937 Hopespring Drive as her new address, but Casey had told Amy on June 29 to go ahead and still use that address for her camera delivery, and Casey had not heard any more about the camera. From Amy’s belief that she had written the wrong address, I assume Cindy refused delivery but had not said anything to Casey.
So on July 15, Casey was hoping that the “major prob” relating to something at the PO was Cindy’s overreaction to the attempted delivery of Amy’s camera after George and Cindy had contested the change of address with the PO. When Amy said the camera had already been returned and re-routed to JP’s condo, Casey must have realized that the Pontiac shoe had finally dropped.
Not that we can rely on Cindy’s testimony to LE, but Cindy did imply that she had not told Casey about finding the Pontiac until she faced Casey in Tony’s apartment:
Cindy: “Um, so Casey agreed to go with me. I said we need to talk. You need to do some explaining. I said, we have the car. We have, we found the Pontiac, it’s not where, obviously, you’re not in Jacksonville and neither is the car. So, I said you need to tell me where Caylee’s at.” (Page 36)
I don’t believe Cindy said anything about learning the Pontiac had been towed until she was face-to-face with Casey on the evening of July 15.
I know JWG has surmised that Cindy told George to bring the gas cans to Johnson’s because Casey told Cindy earlier in the day that she had run out of gas, but I do not agree. Casey had stolen George’s gas cans only three weeks earlier and George said he knew she had been taking gas because of the stains on her car below the gas cap. Casey’s “gas” history was ample reason for Cindy to suspect Casey had run out of gas again.
WSH – I will ask Angela about the cache issue you may be having. Also – if you’re registered on VRHacks – she usually answers back on that board pretty quickly. I think she may do it on her blackberry or iphone or whatever she uses because she is quick.
WSH you probably already checked this but I loaded SL on my new Macbook and it runs beautifully but not so great on my 3 yr old desktop HP in my office. Could it be your processor?