Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad, Baez and Baden Can’t Read
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Discovery Review Part I
Orlando, FL– In the last 2 weeks in the case against infamous tot-mom Casey Anthony, The defense appears to be in an all out media blitz to support their recent motions for dismissal. Most legal analysts feel they have missed the deadline for such tactics, and that could very well be the reason for the affront on public opinion recently.
The blinkoncrime.com editors have been scouring the recent discovery release.
There are some very compelling facts the Spin Twins de Baez have conveniently overlooked.
The Duct Tape
Reported exclusively at blinkoncrime.com last June, the Henkel Duck tape industrial grade was located on the skull of Caylee Marie, the gas can and the shed at the Anthony residence. Today, WFTV after rifiling through some old footage, reminds us what we already knew.
(Editors note: Say what you will about Kathy Belich, that Dom Casey cheat sheet with her picture and “disseminating hatred towards the family” remark had her in that news room with a whip and a hot iron all day until they found it– I don’t blame her.)
Yesterday at Brad Conway’s client driven press conference, he specifically referenced there are no fingerprints on the duct tape. I heard it again this morning by Linda Kenney Baden.
Let’s break this down folks, shall we?
On NO document, that we have seen, does it state anywhere that there are no prints on that duct tape. Specifically, I am referring to FBI Evidence ID Q62, Q63 and Q64.
In fairness to the defense, with a combined experience mean of 2o years in the “expert” fields, less Jose “josebgood@yahoo.com” Baezs’ token 3 years, I can see how such academics could come to that conclusion for the time being.
Within the response to Kenney Baden’s discovery request from the FBI, this statement appears:
THE FBI DID NOT RECEIVE LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE
It does not say “latent impressions”, which in the forensic “speak” means all friction ridge detail images.
Seriously? With a woman’s very life hanging in the balance we are expected to believe such a panel does not know the difference between a latent lift and a friction ridge image in 2009? Not to be glib, but as a practical matter, as a layperson, just imagine when your scotch tape slips off the cutter and you stand there for 10 minutes trying to thread it again with your fingernail. If that did not immediately furrow your brow, you will be wrapping all the christmas presents this year.
These assertions by the defense team are nothing more than an attempt to double dare the State to open their Kimono. Insert euphamisms at will.
As a matter of fact, a close look at the examination protocol used by the FBI, tells a very, very different story.
Tape Q62, Q63, Q64 is originally presented NOT to be tested for DNA. Who gets it first? Latent Print U and Chem. Why is this important? Because the two work together when we are talking about applying chemically based “lifting” techniques such as sticky powder, for example.
Yes, before you ask, this is where the heart sticker residue is seen by LPU on the NON ADHESIVE side prior to it’s own testing procedures. That residue is consumed and no longer visible in this phase. You can assume LPU saw that image under ALS, not visible to the evidence collection unit or ECU.
Occurring simultaneously, lets also assume a conscious decision is made to procure the latent images on the adhesive side of Q63, even at the risk of the consumption or ruin of residue of the alleged heart sticker that everyone already knew would not yield DNA.
Who thinks there are no other digital originals of the duct tape, bearing the sticker residue from the Medical Examiners Officer or CSI in the field? While I agree the residue chemistry itself may have been probative, this was not the woopsie the defense would lead you to believe.
LPU was assigned to do visual oversight when the Trace evidence unit, or TEU receives the samples next. Ms. Fontaine has a T shirt she wears under her lab coat for just such an occasion.
It reads: DONT BE SWABBIN ON MY PRINT on the front, on the back it reads: I’LL JUST WAIT TO BE SURE.
Is that so that their friction ridge was not destroyed? OF COURSE.
Next stop The Questioned Documents Unit, or QDU. For those unfamiliar, this is another “ARod” Jose Baez so astutely coined the analogy when referring to Dr. Neal Haskell being on the State’s expert list. This is where the mysterious “contamination” occurs. Brad Conway went as far as to say yesterday that this was a mysteryperson, a possible unsub if you will. Ms. Baden said it could be an alternative culprit. Yeesh.
It is clearly stated in the report that CONWAY released, that the ID from the partial profile, is Lorie Gottesman, of the QDU.
I am quite sure Ms. Gottesman has an alibis for June 16th. Perhaps this is a good thing as I hear Ms. Gottesman is well versed in expert testimony.
Ppppssst. There are 2 other samples of the duct tape, all 3 latent results have not been released except to say that George, Lee and Cindy have been excluded.
Wouldn’t you have to have a control latent to compare them to in order to exclude A N Y O N E?
Their ARE prints, folks. Eazy Peazy.
While we are on the subject of the tape, textile fibers WERE recovered from Q62 and Q64 and Q66 (house duct tape) and preserved for future testing.
It was not true to say there was no transfer evidence whatsoever, how would they know when those tests have not either been preformed or the results completed? Ms. Baden feels the public is being misled?
I would offer the misleading is being orchestrated by misinterpretation.
The decision was made to consider testing the tape for DNA after an initial pre-amplified DNA result came back from Baby Caylees tibia (I apologize for the graphic).
To be continued, blinkoncrime.com
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That a girl Blink. The prosecution is going to have the defense for lunch and not Blink an eye.
As far as a plea deal goes in Capitol cases for murder 1…usually LWOP and no appeals. Don’t know if Lyons will bite for the no appeals..heck that is where her goose with the Golden egg lies.
Agreed dear friend.
I still go back to George busting into Mark Nejame’s office. Who’s the boss applesauce? Why would Baez call a represented individual and not his lawyer? I’ll answer, because HE CAN. I sincerely hope Brad sees the forest soon, he is in a no win situation and I do believe his heart was in the right place.
B
Wendy, look at post #41. I just googled….Amy Heizenga text messages to Casey or I google Amy Heizengas duct tape and this post popped right up.
Look back guys, in response to #26 Blink says it doesn’t apear to be the same tape used at the no clothes party. Why do you thind that Amy and the Ants have the same duct tape. It came from their home.
What is that I hear…is that Sindy, Dom, Baden, and Baez crying in the corner? I’m sorry it can’t be they couldn’t read the doc dump what make me think they understood Blink? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I’m so proud of Blink, actually humbled in her presence! I bow to you Madame.
Why TY, anyone can sift through 1000 pages, I am nothing special. What I am is an advocate for Caylee Marie Anthony and I am utterly over these people thinking people are as gullible as they would like.
One thing I will say, is several on here have brought up the issue about the sunshine laws interfering with a person’s right to a fair trial. As a journalist, I love the access to information, but I would be lying if I did not agree to a point.
B
# 50
Gypsy/Blink_ If Conway remains:
He should cut off contact between the Anthonys and Baez. Baez knows how to push their buttons and make them look out of control. I suppose that is the point? And in doing so, it makes Brad look bad by association and with the antics that he has been pushed into.
Again, NeJame is thanking himself for having left as Counsel before ‘it’ really started to hit the fan.
So how long now before some nasty dirt about Kathy Belich surfaces from PI work?
On the flip side, one of my journalist friends always said, never attack someone who has plenty of ink. In Belich’s case, I guess you would change ink to tape, or digital tape.
It got really personal between them at some point, whew!
can someone explain how the defense calls forensic findings ” junk science” ? They found a hair with a death ring- that is only on postmortem bodies – correct?
I dont get how lawyers operate. How do they determine that such a clear finding is junk. You cant be alive & have a death ring on a strand of hair from what I have researched. Are they counting on a real dumb judge & jury?
# 48 ada
No one said that the coverage was unfair the day before, when the media was running with the FBI mistakes angle.
Also, it wasn’t so much a rebuttal, as having a hunch and uncovering information. TV loves its exclusives. But the defense should know this, as the 48hrs program purportedly paid handsomely for exclusive photo licensing and or an exclusive interview.
What is the date of Casey’s text to Amy?
I think Casey took the duct tape for the flag outfit. George asked her to return it. She texts thinking it’s with Amy. The tape is in the trunk. Maybe the gas cans too. When Casey used the tape on Caylee maybe a piece folded back on itself. To get the tape off her fingers she wiped the tape on the gas cans. She gave the tape back to George when he asked for the gas can OR the tape was still in her car when the Anthonys cleaned it out. I started to post this earlier but I went back to see how smooth the tape looked on the gas can (So if this shows up somewhere else, I’m sorry). It looked pretty smooth but was there more than one piece of tape on the can?
wsh, I don’t regularly watch those until the other day after the Brad thing (whatever that was) and found the two nicks. I did a quick look for later-late night entries under those two nicks again, but nothing new. I suspect those nicknames have now served their purpose as part of last week’s media charade.
Sorry Blink, had to sift through some docs to find. Here’s where I’m referencing the fingerprint info request:
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Renewed%20Motion%20to%20Compel%20Bench%20Notes,%20Standards,%20Data,%20and%20Communications%20with%20Law%20Enforcement,%20et%20al.PDF
Page 21 of 91 of the “Renewed Motion to Compel Bench Note..”
Section 19 a Ms. LKB is asking for specific latent print information on 18 prints and 8 areas of prints.
This was the first I’ve read of the defense KNOWING about fingerprint evidence that apparently exists. How did they know if it wasn’t released yet?
Nicely done Kew, yes, your correct. SHE MUST have unreleased information because if you note the testing parameters and the fact that this was sent to the FBI , she must be in receipt of some FBI reports or made an error. The prints I am aware of as lifts, and I do think it is possible she is using lifts incorrectly in some spots, were preformed by OCSO, not the FBI.
They Know. They know about the prints , but don’t consider them “prints” until they have the benchnotes, etc. They have it now allegedly.
B
If Casey is suggesting a link between Amy and her [CASEY'S] duct tape in May, that makes no sense to post that on a social networking page unless she wanted the personal note to go to all her friends and others for some reason. It also can suggest that Casey did this to prepare for some ‘future’ connection to ‘her’ duct tape, just as she went to Jessie’s place, just like the swimgear stuff left at a friends place, just like she said her so called ‘best friend’, could supply Zanex from her prescription. Casey was saying a lot of things.
I wondered if the defense was trying to get the state to respond to their media blitz and to the motion to dismiss the first degree charge (because they know the motion to dismiss the whole case won’t fly), is so the state will ‘BRING the smoking gun (see ‘justsayin111′s post link) and Linda KB’s suggestion if they had anything, like a ‘hair’ of Casey’s at the crime scene, they’d show it.
Blink clearly was thinking that– opening a Kimono– not wise– unless you want to commit harikari. What have we got now? The defense doing it’s one-sided media shows to a ‘national’ audience to target the other trial venue jury pool– then they attack the media for showing the other side. WHO ELSE??? Not the state, not Ms. Drane-Burdick or her colleques. No one to give a balance to the reporting done freely, often, and ‘repeating themselves’ with all of their high connections in the main national Media streams.
The defense can now go retake their polling studies of the different venues of choice for trial, to rate their efficacy of the last week’s tour.
Then they dig up ‘dirt’ on anyone and everyone. What have they got on Judge Strickland???? They dare not say…
Brad has no control of his clients, nor their respect. He is being used and needs to take care of his own professional standards so they do not get abused in the process. Brad criticized the state for NOT releasing all of the documents as they should have. But, Mr. Conway, haven’t you paid attention?? The state has previously split up doc dumps, given the photos on cd for example, one day, and as they could process the next batch of the same doc dump, they have followed that with the next. What is so terrible about a few days delay? It’s 1000 pages in the one part of the release! The state does not only have Casey Anthony to deal with.
Brad needs to get on board with the ‘joint defense’ in whatever way that would allow– OR, represent HIS clients. They may need representation as this progresses, they may even find they have conflict of interest with each other.
Blink, re: sunshine law comment– do you think the Baden’s, the Kenny-Badens, the Baez’s, Macaluso’s, lose sleep at nights over ‘fair trial’ issues because of Sunshine Laws specifically? I think they are making the most for themselves in what the bright sun allows, as do the Anthony’s. Helps the amount on plates when the dinner bell is rung at the ol’ chuckwagon! They will run that herd of cattle down to the bone before this is over, and sell them off to the lowest bidder when the drive is over because it is the ‘journey’ and not the destination that pays the benefits here.
There is no doubt, I agree, and Maybe I should have been more specific, I apolly. It ALSO CLEARLY allows for people to get paid for their crimes upfront. You think Melissa Huckaby’s family is working on deals? Hell to the NO. If you cant write anything or interview anyone, there is no money to be had. Something to think about.
B
Kleat
“The defense can now go retake their polling studies of the different venues of choice for trial, to rate their efficacy of the last week’s tour.”
But will they get a change of venue after the media blitz on national TV? They weren’t limiting their exposure to Orlando. they took it further. Can’t the state argue that they brought national attention to the case again?
Not Kleat, but they will definately get the change of venue, which btw, I think is a mistake. I think from a strategic perspective if he’s planning on throwing the Anthony’s under the bus, he should stay put.
B B
Last night, Marc Klass commented on the defense’s media flurry of this past week, as well a clinical psychologist, Ms. Saunders, comments:
(full transcript is up at NG–> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/02/ng.01.html, Jean Casarez, guest host)
Casarez:
“Marc, when you hear all of this and the defense attorneys were on all of the morning shows today talking about this, what are your thoughts?
MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, you know, the defense attorneys have told us time and time again that this case is going to be adjudicated in the courtroom and not on the TV. So it`s kind of ironic that they have gone on to this offensive today.
And I think it`s probably a desperation move. And I also believe that if Casey Anthony were my client I`d probably be pretty desperate, too. But you know, going back to the beginning, as your previous caller had done, with the trunk, everything up until the forensics points directly at Casey and really at nobody else despite every attempt that the family has made to point the finger at other people.
CASAREZ: To Patricia Saunders, clinical psychologist out of New York. You know, Marc Klaas makes a very good point. The defense has always said we want to try this in the courtroom. We don`t want to try this in the court of public opinion.
And one thing they said in their motion and they said on some of the news shows today is that Casey Anthony has very compelling reasons for what she did when she did it after her daughter went missing and it will come out in a trial.
And that has to do with not reporting to authorities for 31 days her child was missing, the fact that it`s documented that she was partying, that she got a tattoo on her back, “vita bella,” good life.
How is the defense going to explain compelling reasons for doing all this?
PATRICIA SAUNDERS, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, you sure got me on that one, Jean. I don`t have a clue. But I think the defense is doing what defense attorneys do. And the Anthonys are doing what desperate parents do.
And that`s to take different slices of facts, different slices of reality, and try and shift people`s understanding of it. It`s like propaganda. People can put out all kinds of wild, bizarre, or a little different statements and just hope someone on the jury`s going to believe them. ”
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Did they retrieve a roll of this duct tape from the A home during their search? Anyone know?
Wonder if they have (or will) question Cindy, George & Lee re: the duct tape. Was it in the house, did they use it all on the posters?
More importantly, if the duct tape roll was at the home then Caylee probably died at the home.
Or
If the duct tape roll was in her trunk, did Cindy get it out when she cleaned up the car?
They recovered the duct tape on 12/11/08 from the home, and I agree with you she died there.
B
One thing I will say, is several on here have brought up the issue about the sunshine laws interfering with a person’s right to a fair trial. As a journalist, I love the access to information, but I would be lying if I did not agree to a point.
B
I agree, so much released may never be brought into court. But it is what it is, unless the voters of FL change it. Would this mountain of evidence have been released according to law, if the gag order was imposed?
Casey’s compelling reasons theory supported by Dominic Casey’s statements of his ‘beliefs’ about the case, that Casey probably had such an experience beyond anyone’s imagination, that she had to keep quiet, or couldn’t talk (paraphrasing his suggestion) and that’s the reason she could not come forward during that 31 days.
My question would be– why would the parents not help Casey through this trauma with victims support and help in recalling and dealing with the trauma so that it might in fact SAVE the baby????
I think the defense could use the fear factor, throwing Casey into a psych state that paralyzed her, she went into an ‘ugly’ behaviour mode, coping in the wrong, but ‘explainable way’.
Another part of this could easily be the horrific fear or experiences Casey had at the hands of the kidnapper(s), was directions to follow everything they said, not just partying and buying beer, and watching horror movies to cope, but actually participate (remember the statement “SHE HAD TO HAVE HAD HELP”– she could not do this alone) in the ‘act’ to some degree– INCLUDING taping the child’s mouth shut because she was under such duress and stress and threat not just to herself but her whole family, (physical threats)
This is why we find the fingerprints, maybe other physical evidence linking Casey to the scene. Casey was the real mastermind’s ‘puppet’.
(hey they brought up Elizabeth Smart as an example of why one should never give up hope– maybe they will use the brainwashing or psych trauma to explain everything away).
There is a reason the defense WANTS the state to ‘bring it’ (the ‘smoking gun’) so they can work it for the next year in the national media, a ‘one-sided trial in their media’ when the state can do nothing. Hope the state keeps its cards close and does not fall for this.
Thanks Blink. However, it is still possible that the duct tape was at the home because Cindy retrieved it from KCs car. But I’m with you, I just think it happened at the house. I don’t know how these people stand themselves.
(coincidence that Elizabeth Smart’s testimony was yesterday also? I think not)
Why would Casey or Amy pay what, 14 bucks a roll for that special tape? I bet that tape was on ‘special’ somewhere, being discontinued and ‘short dated’ because of it’s technical specialized purpose, it must have some shelf-life to meet those specs. That’s why the expense, that’s why it could be sold off cheap as ‘expired’ but still with tremendous stick power and actual use life for home purposes.
Would you want that extra stick version of duct tape on your beautiful peaches and cream with added tan, skin? It wouldn’t make you very pretty but would stick!
Thanks, Blink, for this article. I am one of the ones who brought up that same quote from the discovery to ask you about the prints. I didn’t realize it was a stupid question until I read this piece. I would not have known the difference between latent lifts and latent ridge impressions! Thanks for all your hard work!
Then it was NOT a stupid question then, was it?
Good for u
B
If George and Cindy used that particular brand of duct tape to post the fliers, (thanks to the Blink and Belich team, we know they did)then George and Cindy must have freaked out when they saw the photos of the “remains”.
wsh, I couldn’t have answered that with any knowledge– Thanks Blink!! Interesting strategy comment– interesting.
Wonder if they haven’t yet decided whether they should involve George and Cindy. We’ve seen both in the media, throwing rages, George violent, his buying a gun, his apparent attack on Casey that was blocked by Jim Campbell.
Will Be George, absolutely.
B
Wasn’t Amy a theater arts student in college? Didn’t she work in theatrical lighting or special effects on a cruise ship’s nightly entertainment for a short time? Wasn’t she working lights or special effects in her work at a cafe’? I seem to recall Amy testing Casey in one text exchange from under a table saying it was close to the end of her shift. What could she have been doing under a table if not being backup for some lighting or other effects?
Wasn’t Amy hoping to work at Universal in some kind of backstage capacity and super friend, event planner, Casey, was going to take Amy’s resume’ to her bosses to help Amy get an interview for a job? Maybe the tape that Amy asked Casey about, left in Amy’s purse when Casey borrowed it, was this rare kind of duct tape needed to withstand hot lights or the like in stage productions. I think Casey said she would look around for the tape. My eyesight is just too poor to go back over all the interviews and documents, but perhaps someone can add to this. Or correct it.
Even more interesting, Blink– I hadn’t thought of George (and remember George refused to answer Ms. Drane-Burdick and actually, in Judge Strickland’s court, objected to relevance when she first asked about Jim’s last name). (George, ex-cop, must have been on the stand at some point in the past, probably quite a few times in court for his work, so he knows it’s not a witness’s place to ‘object’– another reason he walks over Brad).
George has laid low, but for his ‘on video’ violent outbursts of tossing chairs, pushing protestor (with charges), and played the ‘good cop’ being all buddy-buddy and the like to OSCO investigators to maybe get some inside info– he actually asked for information he knew he couldn’t have.
George has also played the quiet, loveable grey-haired gramps, but he’s not so good as Cindy at the stories. (ie: saying he was watching the ‘news’ quickly changed to his ‘food tv’ show). He’ll take the 5th? Then what– for the rest of his life? Being attached to the horrible death and tossing like trash, of his granddaughter?
No one talks about family secrets– do you think this bus headed for George will carry ‘creative implications (aka ‘dirt’) ‘ to make George taking the 5th more believeable as to his hiding something?
They would have to play George as a very sorry character to allow his daughter and wife to go through this. What will be the suggestion? George was angry about not seeing Casey and Caylee all Father’s Day? He was the father of two children, the husband of a loving wife, and the grand’father’ of the baby.
But if George were ‘involved’, he’s got to be a pretty incompetent ‘cop’ to cover up the way he supposedly did– what idiot cop would proceed the way he did, keeping the car around to be found– he had gas cans, afterall.
I dont think he would harn a hair on that baby’s head. I think he was the last person allegedly to see “them”, by his own admission. Even though that was a lie on the 16th, imo, I think the call patterns in conjunction with the Cindy “George did you leave the gate open?”
B
Is this defense of George where Brad comes in? Or is his role really for the defense, and not his ‘client’. Something not right in this picture, especially if Cindy might be behind some of this to implicate George and they share a lawyer.
I have read that the public doc dumbs recently are a couple of dumps behind what the defense has, i too think they know about finger prints and are trying to pressure their defense on everyone in preparation from that bombshell.
From the time of the press conference to last night’s Discovery Review Part One, there has been, over a 36-hour period, nothing short of continuous voices for truth, voices for Baby Caylee.
Kathi Belich set the bar at a new level for direct, live one-on-one media participation in this case, as seen in this most recent press conference. Fascinating to watch and hear other media voices now on-spot challenging the defense statements and interpretations as they roll out. There was a visible turning of the tide. The caller of the presser was not in control. Voices for truth, the voices for Baby Caylee, stepped forward to the front at that presser.
Following, came the analysis’ of the press conference from all realms of media. More voices for truth, voices for Baby Caylee.
Then the NG show, intriguing and informative last night with fill-in host Jean Casarez. Along with Kathi Belich and her discovery of more evidentiary truth, we heard guests like Susan Moss, Marc Klaas and Leonard Padilla offer serious, fascinating dialogue and insight into the judicial quest for the truth. The segment ended with, Jean Casarez: “…everyone is protecting Casey Anthony. Who`s protecting Caylee tonight?” Patricia Saunders, clinical psychologist: “The prosecution is protecting her.”
And big kudos to Blink and team for complementing the days events with a clear tutorial into the technical quest for truth. Your work topped off 36 hours of continuous voices for truth, voices for Baby Caylee.
The coming forward and the timely “coming together” of these many voices, overwhelmed and assured me the truth will prevail, and there will be justice for Baby Caylee.
IMO, what has been accomplished in this mere 36 hours, will affect for quite some time.
I think it very telling in Casey’s text messages that she speaks about the tape and the smell in her car, usully crminals speak of their crimes in some from or another or place themselves in the middle of investigations in someway, they always stay close to the vest to find out what people might know or think. like when someove who starts a fire and tries to help put it out or make comments, like the Huchaby case and how she admitted to see the lil girl…many examples like that happen
So “will be George, absolutely”? Is this for reasons of personality or volatility? Or because George is the one who was at home on June 16 and his story of that day’s events is too finely detailed? Or because (I think) George was the one working in the backyard on July 3? Cindy would make a satisfying target,too, as she and Casey share a particular violent anger that neither is shy about expressing.
Blink, why are you so positive they’ll get their change of venue? It’s so very clear that they (the defense) have sought the attention of national media. I mean, the judge and every single person watching this unfold can see that, so why add even more tremendous costs to the poor taxpayers of Florida? I’d be freaking out if I was paying taxes in that state. Every person I know would be freaking out. It’s disheartening to know that despite us all “freaking out” the judge would go ahead and rule for the move anyway. Disheartening.
It’s way too heavy of an appeal issue, fwiw, I have never expected this case to go to trial and I still do not.
B
Nice work Blink! Ever since I saw Casey I’ve always thought she is way too calm, cool, and confident for this to have been her first murder … which brings me to ask … what about the hair found in the trunk it sounds as though it’s not Casey or Caylee’s?
How will Nancy Grace react to her photo & description as an enemy of the Anthony’s in the Dom Casey internal messgae to Cindy? IMO she’s been more than fair, at times ridiculously biased in favor of & has made too many excuses for the appalling behavior of Cindy & George.
Will this finally make NG see the light & the A’s for the infectious waste they really are?
WSH if there was a gag order in place we wouldn’t be seeing the docs even with the sunshine law. Remember that SA wanted the gag and defense didn’t.
About Amy, no matter what job she wanted or had done I doubt she would be toting her duct tape from work. Besides, she would’ve used electrical tape for the jobs mentioned IMO and she was a waitress who probably lived on a budget. I’m sure the tape she was referring to was bought at the dollar store for household purposes or just that party. Who knows? Special tape in my house is in my husbands tool chest drawer, with a label only to be touched by him or when he can supervise my use (misuse) of it. My tape cost a $1 that I am ‘allowed’ to use. lol I will grab any tape in sight that will work for what I need at that moment and I am sure Casey didn’t read the label when she was looking for tape then either. Good evening everyone.
Anyone heard from Silver or Maura? I am especially worried about Silver. Could they have gotten sick? Can you check on them please Blink? I’m a worrier and it’s on my mind, please check. Doesn’t M usually post at another site? Anyone know where?
I am sensitive to your concern, however, I know you will understand I maintain any posters privacy 1000%. I have no reason to believe they are anything other than active and busy professionals. I have a fondness and great respect for them both.
B
I too can only say “WOW!” Great article. When the FBI report first came out that said it had requested “Exclusionary prints” from George, Cindy and Lee and that had been excluded….my first question was – “Excluded from what…exactly”.
Well, the answer would be – excluded from the print(s) they had found on the duct tape. Which means….they have print(s) on the duct tape. Why else would you need to exclude someone from leaving a print. Duh.
Trust me…if not at trial, sometime before trial it will be learned that there are prints on the duct tape belonging to the killah!! (and I don’t mean ‘killah’ in a positive reference). I do mean Casey Anthony as in killing her daughter, Caylee.
Blink: lets say Casey does plead to a lesser charge. Does she have to stand in front of the Judge ALONE ( I know baez will be there) and tell her story to the Judge, how she did it, why she did it etc? What happens if the Judge rejects the excuse or explaination?
In theory, yes, she does, the judge would have a wide berth, and he is not under any obligation to accept it on it’s merit.
B
Can the SA office ask for the letters sent viz Baez to her parents and brother to check for anything incriminating?
Which hair do people refer to as the hair in the trunk? There’s the hair with the deathband marking, that is consistent with Caylee’s hair but not Caseys hair. There’s the hair that Dr. Lee picked off something, maybe a pop can and not the trunk, or both.
It’s confusing. I think that’s what the defense intends– the defense, instead of talking about ‘a hair’ this and that, they should specifiy what hair they are referring to, and then go on about it in context.
I live in the UK and have followed this case since it first broke in July 2008. This has been terrible case of a beautiful little girl who was murdered , but what has astonished me further , is the disgusting behavior of the Grandparents too. They have been willing to lie, hinder and deny to help their daughter and make as much money as they can off it in the process. I sincerely hope they are all held accountable and sentenced along with Casey. B , I thank you for such an informative website . I am sure that the Anthony’s and their Defence teams Motto must be .. If it walks like a Duck, Talks like a Duck..It must be a Squirrel ? Casey loved going to Bars….now for the rest of her life (hopefully ) she will be surrounded by them !
Whew Blink. That’s what I get for getting to close to the ledge – you always bring me back. I was getting pretty down about the State’s strategy – for a minute. Best Blog in the Blogosphere By far.
Westsidehudson,
No, a gag order would not stop that, a gag order would only silence the key players in the case. And it’s not so much the SOA releasing the info but the media requesting it…remember, they fought the gag order, too. For them it’s a first admendment (FOS and FOP) issue which is exactly what they argued. Their argument(IMO)was better than JB’s…go figure, huh?
#85-Twiglet
Yepp! It is a Squirrel…With way too many NUTS!!!
LOL
Gagging the media is called prior restraint , it’s pretty much censorship of the press which flies in the face of our first admentment. I can’t think of any circumstance that I would agree with doing that except perhaps… a national security issue.
Sorry, Twiglet your comment # changed to 89 or maybe I misread the #.
Casey Anthony will never admit to killing her daughter either accidentally or on purpose. I truly believe she is a psychopath and as we know there are degrees of psychopathy she is one of the rare types that kill and would probably kill again but they rarely admit to their crimes. They do not think of the future so much as dwell on what is making their life uncomfortable at the moment, including mom and dad. They truly believe that they are smarter then their peers and feel they can manipulate people into doing their bidding, if the lies don’t make sense to us they do to someone who lacks empathy. If she does bypass the death penalty and spend the rest of her life in prison, it would be heaven for a psychopath as they thrive on attention be it negative or positive and where else could they find such a stage then in the prison community? The death penalty if served will terrify her until the end, as that will be personal affecting only her.
I hope I am wrong about her confessing as I would like to know just why and how…. but then again can I believe her?
M. Scott Peck
People of The Lie
re: The Malignant Narcissist.
Referrral from one of my contributors, READ IT.
Casey is NOT a psychopath. You will see what I mean
B
The Ants might not like wftv and Belich, but journalists investigating stories is a time-honored tradition – where would Watergate had been without Woodward and Bernstein. During the Manson investigation there was much help by investigating press and also the public – (a 10 year old boy found the gun that Tex Watson used to kill Steven Parent and two others as I recall. I say Kudos to
wftv and Kathy for finding this connection on the duct tape. The press can go many places the police cannot and get tips, leads
and interviews, get photos and videos.
After reading this I am more confused than ever so maybe you can clarify some of your statements. You said that on NO document does it state that no prints were found on the tape. Please see p. 3781 – 3782 her
Great Questione http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740657/detail.html which is an FBI report that states “the requested latent print examinations were conducted, but no latent prints were detected.”
Also, I can not find any report that states George, Cindy and Lee’s prints were compared and elimenated as far as the tape goes. Care to provide a link?
ppsssst, there is some mystery DNA that was found on the tape. It was found on the adhesive side. Ms. Gottesman’s DNA was found on the silver side. The FBI report stated the DNA on the adhesive side did not meet enough qualifications to be tested and compared.
So I think it could belong to Caylee, Casey, a lab tech or anyone. It’s a mystery. I can provide a link if you would care for one.
Great Question. On your own link you will note that says the tape Q62 and Q64 were examined against elimination prints from George, Cindy and Lee, while I agree it is open to interpretation, that is mine.
Conveniently absent is Q63…..
Yes please, provide the link about the “double contamination”. The way I read that, was that they never had a full profile as you say, but after analyzing Ms. Cottesman’s they determined it to be hers. If there is a secondary from a different side- on which tape exactly? That would be new info to me, tia.
B
Blink — your comment to post #96 — Peck’s People of the Lie. That was me! I see the book resonated with you, as well!
Thank you MS. JAN!
My fond compliments, I loved it and recommend it highly thanks to you
B
Well IMO, this case will go down much like that of Scott Peterson, as the evidense goes..and OJ/Mendes, as the media circus goes..
I read one of those doc’s that stated in 10/08 the FBI still had thwe car..one of the agents was telling another that the car still smelled horrible..Guess that was not pizza!
I read last night all about the Forensic Friction Ridge print, why couldn’t they just say, it’s the print that you leave by impression?