Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Will a Conviction in Fraud Case Hemorrage the Defense Fund?
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Orlando, FL– Since the State Attorney’s office filed their motion to proceed in the forgery, theft and fraud case against her, I have been positive this legal maneuver was the equivalent of bringing a bazooka to a thumb wrestling match.
Doesn’t it appear that that bell just re-rung when the motion to proceed to trial on the economic crimes was granted?
Casey Anthony is facing 13 felony charges of forgery, petty theft and ID theft; to be scheduled for trial in the near future per Stan Strickland’s remarks in his motion response.
The ripple effect most consider “chump change” when weighing the murder indictment and possible death penalty conviction; I disagree.
The outcome of her economic charges trial may very well seal the fate of the murderl trial. Precisely the resounding defense’s worst nightmare for a bevy of reasons.
Son of Sam Law
Florida Statute 944.512
944.512 State lien on proceeds from literary or other type of account of crime for which convicted.
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(1) A lien prior in dignity to all others shall exist in favor of the state upon royalties, commissions, proceeds of sale, or any other thing of value payable to or accruing to a convicted felon or a person on her or his behalf, including any person to whom the proceeds may be transferred or assigned by gift or otherwise, from any literary, cinematic, or other account of the crime for which she or he was convicted. A conviction shall be defined as a guilty verdict by a jury or judge, or a guilty or nolo contendere plea by the defendant, regardless of adjudication of guilt. The lien shall attach at the time of the conviction in county or circuit court. In the event of an appeal, the funds will be held in the Revolving Escrow Trust Fund of the Department of Legal Affairs until the appeal is resolved.
Sweet Mary. Regardless of how the court arrives at “guilty”, the second she is, the State can slap a lien on her “ASSets” . It does not matter who they may have been transferred to ( George, Cindy, Lee, Jose).
The beauty is, the State already knows what they are looking for based on the in-camera portion of the State’s motion for Judge StricKland to review the possibility of a conflict of interest. You remember the one– where Jose Baez got the side bar lashing at it’s conclusion and Jeff Ashton was telepathically repeating “Wipe that smarmy smug off your mug” to Jose Baez.
Casey Anthony would only be entitled to what her “account” of the crime would have been worth PRIOR to her criminal act/ conviction. As she was really only known to the Club Scene and Target, good luck with that.
So, now your saying- well how does the State extrapolate the profit from the convictions PRIOR to the murder trial? You Can’t!
Not really, especially if you factor if one is “in the commission of” concealing the other. The State will be in a serious strength position to freeze Casey Anthony’s cash and the defense will be off like a prom dress.
George and Cindy Anthony Take The Stand
This for me, is the single biggest blow to the capital case against Casey. I have long stated I believe the defense is going to attempt the “confuse the jury of the guilty party” defense. Not new, not original, but in my opinion, in this case, prudent. The Anthony’s have no objection of course as they have a shot at getting their daughter out of prison and can keep their multiple income channels open.
The first salvo will be Casey, through Baez, releases a statement, or in his opening remarks will point the finger at George, Cindy or both.
Voilla! They plead the fifth and get out of testifying against their daughter.
Not going to happen. In order for that to work, the Anthony’s will have to get out of testifying in the economics case, and since she was stealing from them regularly and they have no fear of prosecution for themselves in those matters, THEY TAKE THE STAND. We already know the economic charges are the linchpin for the defense (follow the script) as to Casey’s fear, and why she did not report her child missing for 31 days.
Therefore, the Anthony’s will not be able to pick and choose what they testify to. They go on record in one, they go in both.
The Plea in PLEASE
Lastly, we have Casey Anthony going into a capital murder trial with a felony(s) conviction. There is little doubt it will be intoduced under the prior bad acts rule. Even if Jose Baez were able to advise Casey to proffer a plea, she is still a convicted felon and that sentencing comes first and limits the prosecution and his Honor Stan Strickland as to what sentencing guidelines must be used.
Zero doubt it will not come up from witnesses to the question– What did Cindy Anthony say to you the first time you met her in person?
You see where I am going with that.
It is this editors opinion, Amy Huizenga is my new R U D Y.
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Casey said in jailhouse video– she’d told people that she would lie, steal, do anything to get her daughter back. So it seems that the stealing, cheque frauds, were related to her daughter missing, and her attempts to get her back, and to use one of Casey’s terms, ‘in a backwards sort of way’.
If the defense is going to use the George etc left a gate open– how does this help Casey in her economics charges when it seems Casey’s story was that she was directed to do all of her stealing, lying, say things she’s said, all to protect the child in the ‘kidnap’ scenario.
If the kidnap scenario and threats are not the defense, then Casey stole for the kidnap ‘story’ to cover her child’s murder.
Blink, thank you, yes, I know that. That wasn’t what I was referring to. I think I may have worded my question like a Who’s on First.
Sorry. Let me try again.
By “one” and “the other”, you are saying the “economics crime” and the “crime of murder”, not 2 witnesses trying to conceal or cover for each other. Some of the discussion is being directed toward the latter, which is why I was asking for you to clarify that sentence from your article.
Thanks again.
EXACTLY
B
DEAR SUZ (re: Casey’s excuse for stealing from Amy, etc):
NOT GOING TO FLY. Regardless whether she CLAIMS she “intended” to pay it back –HOW WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN REMOTELY POSSIBLE? Casey had NO JOB, no means of income OTHER THAN STEALING? You cannot use another crime to PAY BACK for the first crime.
Second, more importantly: CHECK FRAUD and FORGERY are worse than “stealing.” Casey was caught on camera CASHING forged CHECKS, using IDENTITY THEFT claiming to BE someone else … and she was using SOME OF THE MONEY she stole to COVER UP HER CRIME. If she threw away the clothes, shoes she used to bury Caylee … and she replaced THOSE garments w/NEW THINGS she stole — she’s in EVEN WORSE trouble.
The fraud case is a slam dunk –regardless if she (knew) she’d WIN THE LOTTERY and pay back ALL her hundreds of dollars in thefts and forgery … SHE COMMITTED THE FORGERIES. She cashed checks signing OTHER PEOPLE’S NAMES (Amy, her mother, grandmother –and God knows WHO else) … And when you ADD UP all the money she stole from EVERYBODY –it’s GRAND THEFT.
BOTH Cindy and George have committed enough bad acts themselves for EACH to be convicted on their own list of crimes. They have both ALIENATED everybody who (ever) worked for or with them, their entire families, etc. Their own repeated lies (broadcast on every TV or radio station) fly in the face of EVERYTHING each said in initial sworn statements, as well as George’s GRAND JURY TESTIMONY.
Cindy handled all the Ants’ money –including the bogus “foundation” set up to let them SIPHON tax exempt contributions from well-meaning people, etc. Cindy has likely committed some type of bad act related to their foundation and conversion of public funds for their private benefit, etc.
Blink,
If Casey decides to take a plea deal, how would that work? Does the state have to offer it? Could the defense approach the state asking for a plea? Is there times when the state just will not accept one? Thanks, I don’t know how this works. Does it have to be closer to the trail date before a plea is made? Sorry for so many questions!
Karen Lee, but Casey had her great job at Universal. Only, it seems like the checks are locked in the supervisor’s desk this weekend, so she just can’t quite get ahold of them, and….
Ok, being silly—- good point, though she could borrow money from a BF or her parents to pay back Amy, just like the banks and apparently all of corporate America does—-there’s no real money, just a series of loans. So I still think they can at least argue that she did not steal it. The identity theft thing, well, that’s a bit of a sticky wicket for the gal. Desperate and not thinking clearly because her daughter was kidnapped (and also because she had been partying really hard the night before).
But how did she use the money to cover up her crime? Are you just speculating that she might have, or did I miss something in discovery or the nooz that shows she actually DID such a thing?
Blink,
Thanks for the fabulous article you address a concern I had and made me smile ear to ear.
What in the world was JB doing in the GR interview this weekend? First thing that came to mind was how do you spell INCOMPETENCE? Next was sending his client up the proverbial river without the Caylee Marie boat. Shook my head and giggled for awhile, sounds like he wants to jump ship. How appropriate the location for the interview in a marina or shipyard.
What about the Anthony’s trademarking Caylee’s name…will this have any effect on the monies received???
# 49 – Karen Lee – Don’t know where you came from – but WELL SAID!
#54 – Karen Lee – WELL SAID! Forgot to hit the refresh button.
I always feel like a winner when I come to Blink’s place!
Great article. I was under the impression that George and Cindy couldn’t plead the 5th, however. There is nothing about the murder of Caylee that could implicate them and it doesn’t apply to testifying against children. Maybe I am not understanding that part in your article.
Review of the upcoming book to be released, by the TVGuy–
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-book-review,0,2058575.column
This isn’t said to be a quote from the book– but it’s a quote from the above review:
“She was a rambunctious child who could count to 45 in Spanish. And she’s still the reason that this story matters.”
I thought that Cindy said Caylee could count to 30 somthing, not 45– for a child three years old?? Is this normal, counting to 45 in a second language?? Is Diane Fanning exaggerating the 45 from Cindy’s exaggerated 30 (I haven’t checked– both numbers seem pretty high for a toddler just learning to put a sentence together in their own language).
But she is right about the other notion– ‘she’s stil the reason that this story matters.’ The baby with a family failed.
KAREN LEE
I TOTALY ENJOYED YOUR POSTS GREAT!!
I don’t think the Anthony’s were able to trademark Caylee’s name
Nor do I, I think it is the Name of the foundation.
B
This is off base a little but the theft and forgery charges against Casey reminded of this,
Amy H during her deposition in the Zenaida case said that Casey told her that Amy moved her money at night when she was sleep walking and Amy kinda believe her because the pants she went to bed with was different than the pants she woke up in. I started to think about it and realize that Casey had chloroform in her car and I am willing to bet that when Amy went to sleep that Casey put chloroform over her mouth which knocked her out and then Casey change her pants so that Amy would see different pants in the morning which would make her think she really did sleep walk.
Just my thought on that.
Blink, in regards to GA’s GJ Testimony, now that the State will be given a copy of it, will this testimony be released to the public? How does all work.
http://www.wesh.com/news/21219043/detail.html
nope, under seal for now
B
I truly wonder what TV outlet would even consider paying and interviewing GA and CA at the end of all this, who would really want that backlash from the public. I don’t want to hear another word out of their lying mouth’s all I want to see is them eat a big ole plate of “I told you so” (crow) and see the look of defeat on their faces. I hope after this they just crawl under a rock and go away, the thought of them making one more dime off their precious angel makes me as sick as the crime done against her, to me each $ made is like another piece of tape stretched across her poor little face. I am so done with this whole circus, this has been a total nightmare from the very beginning!
Can you hear my screams from across the ocean?
I truly wish I had half the brain you folks have on this site to break this information down, most goes right over my head, the brain I do have is filled with street smarts and common sense, I am just a mom with a big ole heart.
On the issue of CA & GA being brought up on any charges and DC for that matter, one can only hope…I will wait that one out. CA & GA loosing Caylee and then their precious “Mom of the Year”
, never being able to gain employment, let alone respect from anyone, being the most hated Grandparents (Garbageparents is a better term) in the world, IMO is punishment enough. Whatever funds they have and will have in the future will never be able to buy them respect or peace of mind let alone bring their family back together, so enjoy your money Anthony family. DC good luck with your dirty rotten business.
I don’t get it, I will never get it….
Thanks for letting me get that out.
#48 Mouse and Blink,
I do not see the correlation between buying food for your boyfriend, push up bra’s, sun glasses, Blue #82 Blue #82 “hut hut” kiddy hoody, and getting a tattoo, to covering up a crime with stolen money, I think the moment that baby was placed in the woods the crime was forgotten. If she had the car detailed, carpet replaced etc I could see the correlation. What am I missing in that regards?
“Comment by Kleat — October 6, 2009 @ 8:01 pm
Casey said in jailhouse video– she’d told people that she would lie, steal, do anything to get her daughter back. So it seems that the stealing, cheque frauds, were related to her daughter missing, and her attempts to get her back, and to use one of Casey’s terms, ‘in a backwards sort of way’.”
Didn’t she make this statement before the stolen checks were brought to light, wasn’t this just another example of Casey twisting truth’s into her lies? I still don’t see how the stolen money correlates to the crime of murder, unless she used the money to buy some kind of spyware and sub sandwiches for her late night stake outs at the Ghost Nanny’s house.
Blink and/ or Kleat
In regards to the mystery impression in the back of Casey’s could it be that Caylee was alive when first put in that trunk out of desperation for a sitter so Casey could to the boyfriend’s house and in the Florida heat Caylee was sweating and then she perished (bless her heart) and then the weight oh here body on the moist carpet made the impression, days later of course that moisture evaporated. Does sweat contain DNA? I guess I found my answer..
http://www.labino.com/pdf/Crime%20-%20UV%20and%20body%20fluids.pdf
Sweat
Sweat contains DNA and is usually easy to see with high
intensity UV light.
Yes, however, there is no DNA in the “stain”
B
“Comment by Kleat — October 6, 2009 @ 4:36 pm
Blink, are you referring to Cindy’s statement to Amy about the cash that went missing that was, in Amy’s words to investigator Eric Edwards: “No honey that money’s gone. You’ll never see it again.” ?
(ref’g the 400 dollars cash that went missing on the 2nd that Casey made up a story about Amy sleepwalking and losing her own money)
Yep, and her first words to TonE Lazz… “I hope your rich…cause..”
B”
that is such a telling statement from Cindy, doesn’t that one statement totally contradict the ZG depos where both Cin and Geo said Casey never took money, (unless you talking about the $30-$40 bucks she stole from poor Grandma Pleasa) what was the phrase “Not to my knowledge”
Every time I hear that story about the sleepwalking cash hiding episode I have to laugh, I have to wonder why at that point in time didn’t Amy open up a can of Whoop A$$ on Casey, but instead borrows her the car, Casey must have been an Amazing Maestro of Mind Control.
sorry for being a Wall Hog just trying to do some catch up…
#56 suz I see where you are going with possible defense. Plus I don’t think we can assume you can add up several thefts against different people in order to make “grand theft’ charges. I’m frustrated by the assumptions people are making as facts.
“MORE DOCS EXPECTED TO BE RELEASED
Also this week, the state is expected to release more documents in the case.
Eyewitness News has learned they are releasing every document the state has received to date that hasn’t been released.
With the latest released expected this week, there will be a total of 10,400 pages released so far.”
Blink, can we expect when this doc dump becomes available will this be where the “Final Nail” will be revealed?
I see the sunshine through the rain!
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Silver…check
Maura …check
Red …Red?
I am also missing Red’s colorful commentary on this one! I know he could add a little flava. Kleat, I really enjoy your intelligent posts and wonderful humor. I take comfort in knowing your always here too. I’d be asking B for you too if your name was missing for a couple of days.
does anyone now think that Cindy might just “Mike up”
just thought
#70 response to Blink, yeah I found that out I was hoping I was on to something there answered my own question…dag nab it I thought I was finallyl graduating Blinkergarten…
Thank you, lily. Most people seem to think that Baez repaying the money = an admission of guilt, but I don’t think it necessarily does. Time will tell…!
Caylee’s Piggy Bank….remember GA told LE that Casey was stealing money from Caylee’s piggy bank…knowing what we know now, are any of surprised by this?
# 43 Joan
“believe I read that in order to go with a plea she would have to have in writing some statement as to the facts of the case. Could be wrong as I have done some much reading this weak.”
I’m no Silver, but this was an addendum filed with the motion to dismiss the case. They are not asking for a plea in the document. They appear to be leaving the comments neutral and they are having Casey Anthony swear to the comments or statements that she made to police. They are saying that she can not swear to any of the results of testing performed by the state. Nothing more, nothing less at this point.
They want to wait it out and see how the judge will rule. It would be foolhardy to admit to a crime within a motion to dismiss the case.
If she does accept a plea, if one is offered, at that point she will have to admit to whatever crime she and the prosecution have worked out, ie murder, manslaughter ,etc. It doesn’t necessarily mean that she will ever explain precisely what transpired.
#49 Blink
I get where you are coming from, especially if she purchased items to replace those tossed at the dump site or duct tape to commit the crime etc. But I don’t think that the prosecution is going to draw out the fraud/theft case to reveal their hand on the murder prosecution strategy. It gives the defense too much info. I think that they will limit it to get a conviction on the current charges. I don’t see them showing their “entire hand”. They will want to bring all of the info from the fraud case forward, rather than backing the murder case into the fraud case, in other words, in my opinion.
True West, I agree with that, but I feel the stronger issue is the dent in the murder case by securing George and Cindy’s testimony.
B
# 49-Respectfully, of course.
georgiamom #34, i think they were just showing, Look—these are the only things she has sworn to, and they certainly aren’t MURDER.
#49-Kleat-
“George knows what he was asked and what he answered, so therefore, if he’s part of the joint defense team as made clear in the last court proceeding with Ms. Tennis, George, as the state speculates, share his testimony with the defense. They know already.The prosecution had specific arguments for the release of a transcript for the purposes outlined, so what right would the defense have to that document– it’s about George and his testimony and possible perjury, not about sharing info with the defense.”
I also believe that the little display by Conway of ‘releasing docs’ not yet available through the Sunshine Law, probably (pun on words coming) sealed the deal for Strickland. Clearly, the defense demonstrated that they were sharing documents with the Anthonys. If they (defense) had immediate access, who is to say if some coaching on spin of previous statements wouldn’t transpire before George has to give testimony again.
There have been a few things in this ordeal that have really gotten to me. One was several weeks ago, Orlandoeast posted something about Amy’s stolen money was only a few hundred dollars, only petty theft and was repaid. No big deal. I have a 23 yr. old(also Caylee) and several hundred dollars means a lot to her. It does to me too. I thought about poor Amy thinking Casey was getting a place for her to live. Letting Casey drive her car. Having her best friend steal her cash and clean out her bank account. Thank you Blink for letting me know that Amy will get her day in court.
I thought there was a law in Florida that said if the state granted immunity to a witness, they could not take the fifth. I could be wrong. Was Lee ever granted immunity? Do you think they’ll offer it to George?
I have a few questions for the legally proficient.
Under SOS laws are any monies made prior to conviction owed to the state retroactively? In other words, if the A’s, acting as recipients of Casey’s bloodmoney made $10 prior to Casey’s financial convictions and had already spent $9.35 of it, is it time to go get a job to pay back the ill gotten gains?
If the gas in Casey’s car that was used to dump Caylee was paid for with stolen money, doesn’t that alone tie the violent and economic crimes together for SOS purposes?
Many dolts have given their hard earned money to the Casey snack fund. Does this also fall under money recieved due to notoriety attained through criminal activity? Can the state confiscate her Twinkie money that Bubba from Iowa is sending her?
#81-Blink
Absolutely. The Anthonys can not say that the thefts were committed for the first time, either. If they make any attempt to color it as an aberration, it won’t fly, there was a clear documented history prior to the fraud & theft of Amy’s checks. How will the jury not convict a person who, before these crimes, stooped to the level of stealing from her own toddler’s piggy bank? ( and, of course, all of the other damaging statements from a multitude of sources, if they are entered in.) This also pokes a gigantic hole in the revised character statements made by the Anthonys on Casey: the perfect- never- lying- mother- facade.
#85 ada
There have been a few things in this ordeal that have really gotten to me. One was several weeks ago, Orlandoeast posted something about Amy’s stolen money was only a few hundred dollars, only petty theft and was repaid. No big deal.
Yes ada, and OE stated something to the affect that it was a misunderstanding between friends.
But that won’t work. The prosecution will have Amy testify. The defense will not have Casey testify. Amy will tell the court that she didn’t loan money to Casey, that she never gave consent for Casey to illegally access her account. Casey will not get on the stand to testify/counter that Amy gave her permission to take funds. So it won’t even be a “she said, she said” scenario. Cindy and George might perjure themselves to say it was so, but their other statements make it clear that they didn’t even know Amy prior to the incident. So who would the jury believe?
# 47_Suz
“Renee57, Casey can still say, look, I borrowed the money from Amy without asking, but the whole thing was a misunderstanding, I always intended to pay it back, and look, I’ve even paid it back in good faith.”
First off, Casey isn’t going to take the stand to say anything. Secondly, there was no prior agreement or history of Amy giving Casey unlimited access to any of her accounts. Who would consent to having an account wiped out, whereby you are punished with fees? Thirdly, and I forget precisely the circumstances, you can not permit anyone to forge your name on a check, that is illegal, even if consented upon. Paying back money, after the fact and but subsequent to charges being filed, doesn’t demonstrate ‘good faith’. She had the opportunity to pay back the money for a long time, but the wait will make it look like a strategy to resist conviction, rather than a genuine effort to make this other person whole again.
Red Ranger, I think Amy’s checkbook was liberated by Casey in July, well after the body was dumped.
I am sure they can try to make a stretch if they want to “get her” on the SOS thing, but that really seems petty and would make me think they are worried about being able to successfully prosecute the murder. Or maybe there is some clear tie to the stolen funds and the murder that I am just not seeing or we are not privy to right now. I’m currently in the camp that says Casey just plain old moved ahead after the murder, not bothering to replace any missing things and for heaven’s sakes, not even bothering to think up an alibi or a plausible scenario. She’s….odd if not downright crazy.
westide, she had to wait to pay it back until she had a lawyer with the ability to get a money order.
Ok, she might be in a bit of hot water on this fraud thing. But can’t her lawyers argue that, listen, she OBVIOUSLY did not try to hide it from Amy because she wrote a check to HERSELF. No one is that stupid, so that must prove that she intended to explain to Amy the emergency need she had for, um, whatever she bought with Amy’s checks. UNFORTUNATELY she was arrested before she had a chance to scrape up the money to pay Amy back. But now she has paid it back, so what’s the big deal about a little loan between friends?
Thanks #81 WSH for the info. So much to read and process. Even if Amy had knowledge that Casey was going to sign her cheques, would they both not still be in trouble. It will be interesting to see what Cindy and George will say and if it will be different than prev. statements.
Oops forgot to refresh and see that you have already answered that question WSH
What a nice way to start a new morning! Casey’s legal problems are even worse than I had thought. Georgette and Cindy may actually get what is coming to them. Zenaida may reap the benefits of Casey’s lies. The defense team will all have to write books to get any money out of this. (Unless their contract says, no books…) Oh THANK YOU BLINK: may this all go from your mouth to God’s ears.
I haven’t found pics of all the checks (can anyone point me to them?) but look at this one to Target—Casey signs HER OWN NAME on it. So how is that uttering or forging?
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/acandyrose/cayleeanthony/caylee_anthony-0726-Target070808.jpg
More evidence for her defense to say that obviously she was borrowing, not stealing. Amy is such a good friend, Casey knew that she would be ok with it, etc.
whoops, this one is uttered and forged
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/acandyrose/cayleeanthony/caylee_anthony-0719-Target071008.jpg
Casey Anthony wrote a check at 10:33am for $137.77 (Ck# 143) to Target #0002 from Amy Huizenga’s account.
(Check out at 11:59am – Among items purchased: Beret, Mesh Bra, Demi Bra, Jacket, Hoodie, Jersey, Pull over (Left Store at 10:36am)
also signed amy huizenga
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/acandyrose/cayleeanthony/caylee_anthony-0720-Target071008.jpg
But I am sure that, like the demi bra and hoodie before them, these items were critically important
\Casey Anthony wrote a check at 12:00pm for $155.47 (Ck# 144) to Target #0005 (325 N. Alafaya Trail, Orlando, FL 32828) from Amy Huizenga’s account. (Check out at 12:00pm – Among items purchased: Popsicles, Eggos, Hillshire Turkey, Tyson Family Pac, Kraft, Deli cheese, Idahoan, Del Monte, Hamburger buns, Bread, Minute Maid, Eggs, Yoplait, Pillsbury, Cherries, Straws, Sudafed, Conair, Bud Light. (Left Store at 12:04pm)
# 91
Suz
If you are sincerely remorseful about harming another party, you pay them back immediately. Money orders are very easy to acquire and do not necessitate representation by counsel. The delay will demonstrate a deliberation on how to proceed to best serve the accused, rather than a bona fide measure to right a wrong or a mistake that harmed someone else. Further, Casey never contacted Amy to discuss with her this ‘misunderstanding’.
…”she OBVIOUSLY did not try to hide it from Amy because she wrote a check to HERSELF. No one is that stupid, so that must prove that she intended to explain to Amy the emergency need she had for, um, whatever she bought with Amy’s checks.”
There are thousands, probably millions, of cases where criminals demonstrate stupidity. I would say that it was the norm, rather than the exception to the rule. People know this.
…”.UNFORTUNATELY she was arrested before she had a chance to scrape up the money to pay Amy back. But now she has paid it back, so what’s the big deal about a little loan between friends? ”
If she had the money to retain an attorney, or her parents did, and images of Caylee were being licensed early on, why the delay in paying back money to a friend with an apology? Clearly, taking care of herself was more important than taking care of her friend.
A loan is an agreement between 2 parties, not one party deciding to access another’s account, especially if there was no precedent set in the past between the two parties.
#65 Randy…your statement, “Amy H during her deposition in the Zenaida case”…
I didn’t think Amy had been deposed in the civil case but if she has, would you direct me to the deposition because I am anxious to read it. Thanks in advance!
I still tend to think that Casey is not as stupid as we generally think. She miscalculated a number of things: Cindy calling OCSO instead of buying into the nanny has stolen Caylee story (she had been able to lie successfully to her parents for years), OCSO did not treat her as a bereaved mother (as she expected from reading the missing children websites in March), Caylee’s body turning up when it did. All those “clues” pointing to a nanny made more sense in pointing to Casey. Just think: if Casey had been treated like Misty Cummings and Caylee had not been found, Casey might still be walking around loose. Those 31 days do include some things Casey did to cover up the murder. She told lies to family and friends about Caylee’s whereabouts. She ducked her family when they finally started looking for her. She ditched her smelly car, but nobody stole it. She used Amy’s money to enable her to stay away from mama Cindy for 31 days. Really, Cindy only found Casey because Amy’s info was left in the car. If Casey had had longer, she might have been able to escape, say, to California.