Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Will a Conviction in Fraud Case Hemorrage the Defense Fund?
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Orlando, FL– Since the State Attorney’s office filed their motion to proceed in the forgery, theft and fraud case against her, I have been positive this legal maneuver was the equivalent of bringing a bazooka to a thumb wrestling match.
Doesn’t it appear that that bell just re-rung when the motion to proceed to trial on the economic crimes was granted?
Casey Anthony is facing 13 felony charges of forgery, petty theft and ID theft; to be scheduled for trial in the near future per Stan Strickland’s remarks in his motion response.
The ripple effect most consider “chump change” when weighing the murder indictment and possible death penalty conviction; I disagree.
The outcome of her economic charges trial may very well seal the fate of the murderl trial. Precisely the resounding defense’s worst nightmare for a bevy of reasons.
Son of Sam Law
Florida Statute 944.512
944.512 State lien on proceeds from literary or other type of account of crime for which convicted.
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(1) A lien prior in dignity to all others shall exist in favor of the state upon royalties, commissions, proceeds of sale, or any other thing of value payable to or accruing to a convicted felon or a person on her or his behalf, including any person to whom the proceeds may be transferred or assigned by gift or otherwise, from any literary, cinematic, or other account of the crime for which she or he was convicted. A conviction shall be defined as a guilty verdict by a jury or judge, or a guilty or nolo contendere plea by the defendant, regardless of adjudication of guilt. The lien shall attach at the time of the conviction in county or circuit court. In the event of an appeal, the funds will be held in the Revolving Escrow Trust Fund of the Department of Legal Affairs until the appeal is resolved.
Sweet Mary. Regardless of how the court arrives at “guilty”, the second she is, the State can slap a lien on her “ASSets” . It does not matter who they may have been transferred to ( George, Cindy, Lee, Jose).
The beauty is, the State already knows what they are looking for based on the in-camera portion of the State’s motion for Judge StricKland to review the possibility of a conflict of interest. You remember the one– where Jose Baez got the side bar lashing at it’s conclusion and Jeff Ashton was telepathically repeating “Wipe that smarmy smug off your mug” to Jose Baez.
Casey Anthony would only be entitled to what her “account” of the crime would have been worth PRIOR to her criminal act/ conviction. As she was really only known to the Club Scene and Target, good luck with that.
So, now your saying- well how does the State extrapolate the profit from the convictions PRIOR to the murder trial? You Can’t!
Not really, especially if you factor if one is “in the commission of” concealing the other. The State will be in a serious strength position to freeze Casey Anthony’s cash and the defense will be off like a prom dress.
George and Cindy Anthony Take The Stand
This for me, is the single biggest blow to the capital case against Casey. I have long stated I believe the defense is going to attempt the “confuse the jury of the guilty party” defense. Not new, not original, but in my opinion, in this case, prudent. The Anthony’s have no objection of course as they have a shot at getting their daughter out of prison and can keep their multiple income channels open.
The first salvo will be Casey, through Baez, releases a statement, or in his opening remarks will point the finger at George, Cindy or both.
Voilla! They plead the fifth and get out of testifying against their daughter.
Not going to happen. In order for that to work, the Anthony’s will have to get out of testifying in the economics case, and since she was stealing from them regularly and they have no fear of prosecution for themselves in those matters, THEY TAKE THE STAND. We already know the economic charges are the linchpin for the defense (follow the script) as to Casey’s fear, and why she did not report her child missing for 31 days.
Therefore, the Anthony’s will not be able to pick and choose what they testify to. They go on record in one, they go in both.
The Plea in PLEASE
Lastly, we have Casey Anthony going into a capital murder trial with a felony(s) conviction. There is little doubt it will be intoduced under the prior bad acts rule. Even if Jose Baez were able to advise Casey to proffer a plea, she is still a convicted felon and that sentencing comes first and limits the prosecution and his Honor Stan Strickland as to what sentencing guidelines must be used.
Zero doubt it will not come up from witnesses to the question– What did Cindy Anthony say to you the first time you met her in person?
You see where I am going with that.
It is this editors opinion, Amy Huizenga is my new R U D Y.
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Ok, here’s my (longshot) defense argument for check #144 where she bought beer. According the receipt, the cashier had to put casey’s DOB since she was buying a controlled substance (and I don’t think it was the sudafed in this case), but either way, she must have shown her an ID in her own name (it says: GUEST ID). Thus, even tho she signed Amy’s name, she obviously wasn’t trying to commit a fraud.
Ummmm…well, it’s worth a try
pic of the receipt with D.O.B.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/acandyrose/cayleeanthony/caylee_anthony-0716-Target071008.jpg
#96 Suz, that is what I am talking about how does those kind of purchases correlate into the murder charge? IMO they don’t, totally separate issue…
They may not, some may, but regardless, the point is how do you seperate profits from one or the other? The state has a very wide berth on this one to “lien” her assets, even through appeal if necessary. There is no burden to link the 2 as “in the commission of”, just evidence of profiting from it and the 2 are inextricably linked, imo.
B
Bubba and the Twinkie fund!!! Too funny Red! Glad to hear from you again, I needed the am giggle. Have a great day and don’t just lurk put it in a post! Heard from the barbarians up north? (Domo) Not referring to northerners so don’t yell at me guys. Off to work I go.
Blink commented on #48 “If Casey’s stealing efforts were an effort to conceal a murder, she’s got problems B”
Blink I am confused about this, what did Casey purchase with Amy’s forged checks & stolen cash the concealed the murder?
I don’t recall any of her purchases being related to concealing Caylee’s murder. In fact, there were no purchases for Caylee at all, were there? It seems to me that she bought things for herself and Anthony Lazarro. Were there cleaning supplies bought, like carpet cleaner or deodorizer?
Blink commented on #48 “If Casey’s stealing efforts were an effort to conceal a murder, she’s got problems B”
Blink I am confused about this, what did Casey purchase with Amy’s forged checks & stolen cash that concealed the murder?
I don’t recall any of her purchases being related to concealing Caylee’s murder. In fact, there were no purchases for Caylee at all, were there? It seems to me that she bought things for herself and Anthony Lazarro. Were there cleaning supplies bought, like carpet cleaner or deodorizer?
My 23 yr. old and her friends made fake IDs using a scanner and her computer in college. When they put these “IDs” behind a plastic sleeve, they could get in bars before they were 21. In a college town, it didn’t take long until this didn’t work. I see that Casey is charged with ID theft. She could have scanned her own license and changed the name to Amy’s or Zenaida’s, etc. (I’ve always thought that would explain the computer searches).
#101- I may misunderstand what you are saying here, but Guest ID refers to a guest of Target.
I see what you are saying.. gotcha! thanks for lifting the veil
# 100_ddderma
Fair enough, I’ll agree that she committed acts of stupidity that were not necessarily based on her IQ, but rather on impulse control issues. Immediate gratification trumped thoughts or consideration of long range consequences. Planning was for ‘now’, as opposed to what might come of this later.
The only piece of this that has me baffled is the extraordinary pristine clean up of the trunk. It seems to go against her pattern. Dumping the car fits into her MO, though.
I agree strongly on the trunk cleaning issue. That’s why I think George did it.
B
Good morning everyone. Another fantastic article Blink. This morning I woke up and logged on to Blinkoncrime first thing and was not disappointed. I’m not an attorney but have always had an avid interest in the law as I come from a long line of LE. Both my father and my grandfather were detectives on the DC police force back in the day. My dad and I still discuss cases over a glass of wine and he educates me on the finer points of the law as he understands it.
If I’m reading you correctly (and please correct me if I’m not) the commission of the financial and fraud crimes could be directly linked to the murder of Caylee for possibly several reasons. One perhaps being that she was hiding the crime of murder by staying away from home and stealing funds to live off of? Perhaps another being that she killed Caylee and needed to steal funds (gas etc…) to help dispose of the body? Perhaps another that they occurred simultaneously? I know she bought a lot of personal items…but she needed those things because she could not go home without Caylee or she would be found out. If it’s determined that one is linked to the other does that mean she cannot profit off either if found guilty of the financial crimes?
I’m totally guessing on this. I know you say there are no stupid questions so I won’t worry about being called stupid here.
; )
Fascinating article…just fascinating.
Again, your exactly correct. Not only that, but the defense was planning on linking the stealing of the funds to support whatever cockamamie circumlocutiatory Bullcaca story they were going to weave. Maybe if they dont plead to the economic charges ( dont see how they can’t) we will let them do the work for the state in that regard. We are at “Check” awaiting “Checkmate” in the check scenario.
B
# 101-suz
Come on, you don’t think that it is fraudulent to use someone else’s check to pay for things with your signature?
fraudulent
Main Entry: fraud·u·lent
Pronunciation: \-lənt\
Function: adjective
Date: 15th century
: characterized by, based on, or done by fraud : deceitful
— fraud·u·lent·ly adverb
— fraud·u·lent·ness noun
By signing her own name to the check, she is implying rightful access to utilize an account that is not hers. The fact that these clerks are oblivious should be a concern to all, but by signing her name she is still faking legitimate access to money (or that she wasn given permission to take).
Again, I don’t know if this follows a different legal path, but the pure definition of the word clearly summarizes her intent to deceive that the money was hers to spend.
JMO…but I think if Casey truly was smart she would have left town IMMEDIATELY after the murder and she would have never been found out. The fact that she lingered around, stole from her friends and partied …all the while little Caylee lie in the garbage right behind her house shows a phenomenal amount of LAZINESS, arrogance and stupidity on her part…IMHO.
At work now…will check in later…great reading here from everyone!
Blink — Wouldn’t the extreme cleaning of the trunk destroy DNA? Could explain why none was found in the stain. But is it possible there could be DNA on the paper towels? Has any evidence been released showing that the towels were tested for DNA?
Will cover in III, good questions
B
Blink, I must know, who is R U D Y?
dddeerma, Casey knew this would come down to her mother catching up with her, she didn’t seem to ‘think about it’, just went on her merry way as if no baby ever existed. That’s supposedly where the ‘threats’ and the changing kidnap story came in later to control her ‘actions’ in the 31 days through fear of harm to her, her family, and oh yeah, better add in for good measure, her baby.
Good point you bring up about Cindy calling 911 instead of buying into Casey’s story. The way we have the info, is that Casey didn’t try to stop her mom from calling the cops– she just went with it when she could have confided in her mother about the ‘real’ reasons Caylee was missing, ‘don’t want to cause you worry mommy dearest, but I can’t call the police because I’ve been ‘warned/threatened’ about harm to the family. Casey should have fought tooth and nail to stop her mother from calling police because her daughter might be killed– I didn’t hear that from Lee in his interview about that first night home.
That’s a huge decision to take– family member (baby) kidnapped and can’t tell anyone– the ‘family’ one would think, would get together to discuss the best way to help save the baby and bring her home safely. INCLUDING GEORGE– but he had to go to work– ex cop was not included in the ‘family’ discussion and decision to call police when calling them could cause the baby to be killed– under Casey’s story. There was no indication they ever believed this story, not by the family’s actions– in the media, making scenes. Ex-cop sould know better how to advise authorities without ‘doing a channel six’.
re: The Fraud Case and The Murder Case
(JMO)
The upcoming document release may include sales receipts and credit card statements that will show purposely acquired, bought items or paid services that will link to the crime of murder and to consciousness of guilt. To date, we have not been factually privy to those purchases and transactions. We may also learn how and when those items were purchased and by whom – - eg. use of fraudulently obtained bank funds of Amy, fraudulent use of credit cards belonging to Cindy.
We will also see previously unreleased witness statements and interviews, e.g. Lee’s roommate Brian L., who had a cheque stolen, forged and cashed by Miss A (and who’s interview is bound to shed additional info to the murder case, IMO.)
I expect a “plethora” of data coming out linking the 2 crimes, agreeing with Blink’s statement, “The outcome of her economic charges trial may very well seal the fate of the murder trial.”
Hmmm… I wonder if Blink’s “…Excellent Adventure…traffic court”
theory will be supported with released documentation in any way.
To defend the cheque fraud case, doesn’t the defense have to rely on ‘the nanny told me to do it’ story or some version thereof where there exists, this ‘nanny’ person/kidnapper with the demands in a list, for Casey to comply to ‘or else’? If they do that, aren’t they caught with Casey’s thefts, being directly related to the kidnap story– and if this wins the fraud case for them, then they are tied to that at the criminal trial?
Linda, Good Morning.
I have wondered if just before July 15, Mark Hawkins had finally agreed to her coming out to California “to tell or talk with him about something” and was perhaps in the process of supplying her a plane ticket out there (she had purposely begun June 16 to communicate with him quite a lot). If I recall, there was a disclosed text message from him to her close to July 15 that simply said “Okay.”, which is why perhaps she was begging her mother to give her just one more day. Maybe she was already in possession of a ticket and it had been confiscated by LE (or someone). I do believe LE has evidence pointing to her plans of flight, supporting consciousness of guilt. JMO
I hope that Shirley Plesea is kept out, far out of any testifying. She did not have any role in this, and her age alone is a huge risk for her, even if she was strong last year that doesn’t mean that a year of waiting to testify will be harmless to her health. For the fraud case, she should NOT be called, for the criminal case, she should NOT be called unless absolutely necessary and her health evaluated then– she should not be ‘waiting’ months and years with that over her head because that is nothing but STRESS for an older person which deteriorates health in ways that can not be undone.
If Shirley wants to testify now or then, she should be under no early stress about that– she should not be committed to testifying ‘now’ for later because that will mean another year of ‘wear’ and stress that can not be undone for an older person.
Yes, I think Shirley would stand up for Caylee, and yes, she wanted to do the right thing to call the police on Casey, but was stopped by Cindy. What happened is not Shirley’s fault– she was not in control of Casey, Cindy was.
JMHO.
1ST I like to clear up the trademark, it is the names, not the foundation, the names were trademarked w/in days of Cindy knowing Caylee was missing on 07/15, which to me further points to Cindy’s greed and underlying feeling that Caylee was gone for good, and Casey would be “notorious”. I couldn’t copy the whole petition for trademark, the sight wouldn’t allow but could copy Help Find Caylee™ and Caylee Marie Anthony™
Copyright© 2008. All rights reserved
So, the name was trademarked independantly of the foundation. I think that shows a particular callousness on the part of the Anthony’s of both greed and, if you thought a child was missing, and would be returned, why trademark the name, not just the foundation???????
#17 and others, we all know GA and CA have done complete 180′s in their stories and descriptions of KC’s behaviors. The grand jury testimony must have something so damaging to KC, that GA has now reversed his testimony on that they feel it is a “bombshell” to the defense. It must also be something of such significant to the case that Judge Strickland allowed it to be released to the SA to use for impeachment, otherwise Grand jury testimonies secrecy is almost sacrosanct that it is not allowed to be used beyond the GJ itself. I would like Silver to expand on this, but to me this is huge and must in itself be very incriminating beyound the defendants rights and GA rights as an witness for the GJ
I agree, I will flash the SilverSignal and call her red phone in the cake server.
B
I’m still confused about just what ‘documents’ the state has in its possession that will be released in its entirety, perhaps this week. The defense has been pushing for that one piece of evidence that ties Casey to the crime scene, so they can deconstruct the validity of that evidence– we see that coming with the duct tape and so-called ‘destruction’ of heart shaped residue, contamination of the tape with a lab worker’s dna, yadda yadda (with a NY lawyer’s accent).
This implies that the complete reports from the FBI or are there still reports to be concluded or even ordered? This means that any prints on the duct tape will be revealed with how they are positioned, and who is NOT excluded but may be included?
Are photographs, CD’s, videos, supporting test imaging, etc, included as ‘documents’? What about all of the OSCO transcripts of many people who may not yet be on any witness list for the state? The ‘depos’ of state witnesses and others, such as George, be disclosed as ‘documents in their possession’? Presumably not.
I have cleaned carpets with hydrogen peroxide. It removes any ‘biological’ stains including food and wine. It never leaves any stain or damage to the carpet. It is really effective and cheap. Is it possible that George & co. cleaned the trunk with hydrogen peroxide thus destroying any DNA?
119 kleat
that is very thoughtful of you to protect shirley plasea . You have more regard for her than her own daughter. cindy has had no thought as to how all her tv appearances and slandering/ attacking everyone that doesnt agree.
por alex plasea shirleys husband in not so good health having to see and hear his daughters rants/lies.
I feel more them
I feel for them sorry I am on my first cup of cofee
sorry bout the typos just getting my first cup of java:)
Somebody jump on me if I am wrong, but hadn’t Cindy already called LE about the car and money, but called again when Casey claimed finally that Z had kidnapped Caylee? I don’t think Casey had solidified the story she would end up telling at that point. Cindy forced her hand. Casey was begging to wait for one more day to go get Caylee but then confessed the abduction when Cindy insisted on going that night. What would one day have gained for Casey? Maybe a real escape from Cindy? I still think Casey was showing a mixture of premeditation and impulsive action.
The murder of Caylee seemed to happen as a result of an argument between Cindy and Casey after Cindy had been with Caylee all day and had also talked to SHirley P. Who knows what set Cindy off? I bet the end result was that Cindy was through being a convenient babysitter for a daughter who stole from relatives big time. It is hard to pretend to the world you have a perfect daughter/family when all the relatives are talking about her thieving ways. Cindy’s anger (which we know now is very great) could only have been directed at Casey. Poor Caylee, stuck between two women who really did not want the 24/7 responsibility of a toddler.
Casey’s first statements were that she was looking for Caylee on her own. The Timer 55 or script story came out a little later. I always thought it was Casey’s response to LE finding out the many lies she had been telling her parents. She, and then Cindy too, kept modifying the story, so as Casey would still appear to be the innocent victim. Of course, nobody believed this, even Casey and Cindy.
The one thing Baez accomplished in Casey’s favor was to shut her up. No more story modifications by Casey after Baez took over. What we have now is the parents G and C making implied modifications to the story in Casey’s place. I love it that the really BIG story modification will be Baez’s addition of G or C to the murder and/or accident story. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving pair of stooges.
wpgmouse: I am with you on the California/Mark Hawkins possibility. Casey lacked money for a ticket, but with her record of theft from friends, she might have put it together given enough time. Or Mark might have paid for a ticket. She would tell Mark that Caylee was back in FL and tell Cindy that she couldn’t talk to Caylee in CA. The story would have kept going longer, if only LE hadn’t been on the way to the Anthonys on July 15.
Don’t I also remember something about George taking the battery out of Casey’s car? They too must have been afraid Casey was going to make a run for it.
THANKS SUZ
I wonder if she created a fake id in amy name but her information to cash that check. or is target that careless. I think not maybe she did change her id.
thanks
88 ada
the problem with cindy has always been to lie and enable casey. no surprise that she would say that the check was only 200.00 ! so you can see why casey is screwed touched in the head in other words her elevator doesnt go all the way to the top. the porch light is on but nobodys home. they are disgusting lying enablers. if only caylee would have had the same chance but the grandparents failed her as soon as they realized they could make alot of money and not work. I guess money healed their broken hearts. but how can you heal a heart you dont have…. sad sad sad
rest in peace caylee justice is around the corner I can feel it!!
LOL LMAO RED RANGER
YOU GOT A CHUCKLE OUT OF ME. YEAH YOU WOULD THINK THAT ANY MONIES THEY MADE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PAY BACK. GOOD QUESTION CANT WAIT FOR SOMEONES TAKE ON THIS.
CHICA
ada, didn’t the peroxide bleach your carpets at all? I have had it mildly bleach things, though perhaps they were not colorfast. Not sure what it would do to a trunk BUT all those places that specialize in crime scene cleaning use really sophisticated process and chemicals to really get rid of all the biological stuff, so i’m thinking mere peroxide wouldn’t do it. Interesting though. Someone was hinting about that in the past (“a common thing you have in your medicine cabinet” or something along those lines).
Westside, don’t you know I’m the lovable friendly neighborhood devil’s advocate around here (from time to time)? Just looking for other points of view and jolly debate. They are sure to have a defense for fraud, and the only one I can come up to from the comfort of my armchair is “Pish, tosh, fraud, schmaud, come on, they were friends, let’s just drop this shall we?”
LOL
B
Blink, if George was the one who cleaned the trunk, what is the state’s thinking on this? Is that going to be more on the backburner until they are done with Casey? And if so, will they return to concentrating on prosecuting G&C?
Geez: that whole long post and I never got around to disagreeing, a little, about Casey’s actions during the 31 days. According to friends and also Cindy, Casey did not forget she had a little child: Casey made up stories as to where Caylee was and who she was with. This is one reason that the mental health argument won’t fly. Casey may have gone her own merry way partying and drinking with her buddies, but at the same time she lied to everyone about Caylee. She can’t have been in a fugue state, or psychotic, when she knew she had to lie. She was not in some traumatic shock version of denial. It all goes to consciousness of guilt. She spent the rest of June disposing of the remains and the smelly car. Was she just waiting for Cindy to catch up with her, those first 15 days of July? Did she have some other plan in motion? I would have thought she would want to be gone by time AMy discovered her bank account had been emptied. Maybe it was all just impulse and opportunity… I hope we find out someday.
ada, good question– hydrogen peroxide household variety is 3% and does effectively discolour blood spots and of course, it just turns to innocent ‘water’ and if pure, shouldn’t leave any indication of itself (theoretically I suppose). But how effective is H202 on carpet mold stains or denaturing DNA? And the carpet area would get pretty soaked with that much peroxide. Wouldn’t mask any odours that permeated through the whole area though. And he’d have had to use a wet-dry vac to remove the excess moisture and a fan wouldn’t hurt either.
# 117 Kleat
Yep, they are between a rock & a hard place. I don’t think that they are going to want to enter the nanny story into the check fraud case. It will not make sense to the jury, especially when the thefts were for purchases of beer and bras. If she had stolen a bunch of money and none of it was accounted for, they could have implied a payoff. Now, not so much.
# 130-suz” Westside, don’t you know I’m the lovable friendly neighborhood devil’s advocate around here (from time to time)?”
I do suz
it helps you exercise your brain for argument’s sake. It’s better than an echo chamber, where the same thoughts are passively re-digested.
ada, yeah, i figured GUEST ID meant a guest of Target–I was just saying it looks like she not only told the clerk her bday so she could buy the beer, but showed the clerk her very own Casey Anthony I.D.—and then used Amy’s check. Man, she has nerves of steel.
Didn’t george detail the kids’ cars nearly every single weekend, using his used car salesman know-how? So I’m sure he would be the chief trunk cleaner. Being an ex-deputy, though, wouldn’t you think he’d have the sense to ditch the vacs he used? Or at least the bags/contents therein.
#126 That Timer 55 is another BS story that we were expected to believe. “Zanny had a timer of 55 days before she returned Caylee”. In fact it is some kind of free download to change “real” time on your computer. Maybe it’s like posting here and the numbers changing before your eyes. Ha ha.
About the fraud charges, I use to have a company with an ex, he was never there to sign things, out in the field, so I would sign checks etc in his name (payroll etc.) in fact we joked that if he actually signed something the bank might think it a forgery since I had gotten so good at replicating his signature but it wasn’t exact. My point is… when our accountant found out I was doing this (keep in mind it was with the full blessing of my ex) he demanded I stop. He told us the bank itself could prosecute me, without my ex, for forgery and that they would do so as a matter of practice. He also said something about the IRS that scared the bageebees out of me, being included, cause you don’t mess with the IRS, ever. So, I quit. I don’t think there is any spin that the defense could put on this that would help KC with the forgery in the AMY H case, even if Amy didn’t press charges herself. I shop at the Target that KC did, its near my home, and they are usually extremely careful about ID to match to the check signature and owner of the account. Makes me wonder how many fake ID’s KC had. I know in the beginning of 08 there was a big sting on a group that was selling fake ID, Social Cards and Credit Cards, and it seems they were selling out of a tattoo shop, but not Cast Iron (surprisingly I’ve gotten tattoo’s there too, but before this case ever came to light, don’t want anyone to think I’m a KC nut, they just have some excellent artists). I will see if I can dig up that story. It wouldn’t surprise me with Casey’s police buddies that she could have heard about an ongoing investigation and used that info to get fake ID in multiple names.
I saw this posted on another forum:
(from a WFTV commenter). Snipped:
“…Has anyone noticed that the day Casey was arrested that a lot of people seemed to vanish into thin air? I mean the way I see it the following people just stopped being on this planet when Casey was arrested:
1. Zani The Nanny
2. Zani’s Mother
3. Rachael (Zanni’s roommates)
4. Juliet Lewis (outcry person at Universal)
5. Jeffrey Michael Hopkins (outcry person at Universal)
6. Nurse who found wound behind Zani’s ear at hospital
7. Doctors who examined Zani at hospital after accident
8. Entire Hospital Staff who were there when Zani was brought to the hospital
9. Zachary (Jeffey Micheal Hopkins kid)
10. Ambulance driver who took Zani to hospital
11. Donale Johnson (orderly who brought Zani her dinner in the room)
12. Shequanda (orderly who picked up empty food tray in Zani’s room)
13. Officer Jake (officer who took report of accident)
14. Entire hotel staff at Hard Rock where Zani and Casey stayed
15. Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales (the Ten)
I’m sure I’m forgetting a few missing people…can anyone add to the list?”
AHHAHAHHAHAH CHICA Good one. If the SA puts the evidence out there like this, no snark intended, along with everything else that we know they have already produced,the print from which they could do an elimination,and add the 31 days….. Well…. OrlandoEast and Jose Baez, you must, must go to your client and advise she beg, beg for a plea, or she is toast. And we will all wait for her allocution as to what really happened to that precious baby girl you all seem to have completely abandoned in your quest for fame and money.
Cindy, lies in an criminal investigation or a crime. Do lies mean you murder, no, but all the EVIDENCE is so damning for Casey that if there is anything, at all, that would help her you would be producing it from Mt Almighty, and she wouldn’t be wasting her valuable booty time in a jail cell.
westside, OMG, an echo chamber of one’s own thoughts? All that gadfly buzzing would drive me nutty!
Since Casey changed her clothes between the two Target trips, might be the clothes are the economic item that ties it to the murder.
16. The two guys who pushed Casey’s car into the Amscot parking lot.
LOL and duh Laundry Bag.
#126 Comment by dddeerma — October 7, 2009 Thanks Finally, someone has zoned in, your Paragraph two – but darker, like the saga begins. I have always thought they have been a “grain” of salt of truth in her statements like a code or game being played. We will just have to wait and see what will be revealed by LE.
#133 Kleat
I was transporting large containers of food from a caterer in my van. Some sort of red dressing covered the carpet in my van. After hours of trying, I put household peroxide on it and covered it with a towel. Several hours later there was no stain or residue from cleaning. The wet-dry vac is an excellent theory.
Your post reminded me too about another cleaning product. I am an artist and the only thing that removes acrylic paint is sold as denatured alcohol, also called acetone. If I don’t have on hand, I use nail polish remover. I think acetone is also used in the manufacturing of chloroform.
Chica Don’t forget Caylee’s father.
#140 Chica, you beat me to the punch I was going tosend that too you,,funny stuff I had to chuckle.
do you think GEO was trying to remove the order in the trunk, if, he indeed tried to clean it up, was it done out of malice on his part or was it doneout of panick and fear and sickness over the smell, was he trying to erase from his mind what he knew to be true and just wanted to erase it?
17. the dead squirrels, not a person per say but where did they go?
143 I can buy that as a correlation, thanks!