Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Caylee Pic in The “Big Trouble” T- SOLD TO THE GLOBE BEFORE Remains Found?
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BREAKING NEWS
Orlando, Fl– In the recent depositions by the State Attorneys Office in the case against Casey Anthony one common exhibit was noted in each deposition of George, Lee and Cindy Anthony.
A cropped version of a photo of Caylee wearing the tshirt that is believed recovered with her remains.
All 3 Anthony’s claimed to not have seen this picture before previously, although without being prompted, Lee noted the photo was cropped.
How then, did it get in the hands of The Globe? Could this be the evidence removed from the Anthony home that Jose Baez tells Cindy Anthony to “Zip It” during her testimony and objects to information he considered sealed by the judge?
This edition of the Globe was released October 8, 2008. Six days before Casey Anthony was indicted for murder and remanded to jail without bond.
THE SALE OF THIS PHOTO PRE-DATES THE RECOVERY OF CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FROM THE WOODS OFF SUBURBAN DRIVE.
One could make the leap that the person selling it would have had knowledge of what she was wearing when 34 month old Caylee Marie met her tragic end.
(EDITORS NOTE: Don’t even try the picture was sold at the yardsale with the clothes and laundry bag– PUHLEASE..)
Blinkoncrime.com poster “Justice 23” contributed to this report.
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I repeat my question about why a baby girl would call her favourite dolly, ‘mama’?? I’d previously asked what Cays called Casey, and Cindy explained it in her depo–
Q: Okay. What did she call her mother?
A: “Mom,” “mama,” “mommy”.
Q: “Mama”? Okay….
Personally, I dont find that odd for her age. She may have been referring to her self as mama to her doll. I love that doll, I have a curious attatchment to it, I admit. Not sure what that says about me.
Maybe the symbol that at least I can glean some peace that Caylee was attatched to something that brought her happiness and love.
B
Sue, I used to think she ultimately dumped the body just before the car wound up at Amscot, but these days I am relying on the 2.6 days of very early decomp the fbi says is in the car, so am thinking she dumped the body on the 18th or 19th. I don’t think it was moved. Where she dumped the body appears to be the textbook dumping ground when mothers murder their kids (close to home, in the woods, etc.). Since it would have decomposed so quickly in the FL heat, possibly becoming skeletonized in as little as two weeks, I don’t think there was a big window to work with in terms of moving it hither and yon very easily.
I think the decomp that spilled in the car from those initial few days caused a smell that got worse and worse as time went on (must have seemed to casey like the blood spots that wouldn’t come off Lady Macbeth’s hands, ha). Especially when it sat closed up, say at Amscot and then the tow yard. Maybe she did try to clean the trunk from time to time in mid June and the smell kept creeping back, but maybe it wasn’t overwhelming until she left it closed up for lo those many days.
I think she really did run out of gas though (now was that an accident, or did she purposely drive around until she ran out of gas in order to dump the car for a bit? I dunno.) The gas gauge was working, according to the FBI’s test (they put gas in it and watched the needle move, basically) and it seems like it was legitimately empty at the tow yard until Geo put gas in it and when LE took it).
Question? Has any documentation been released from time period Father’s day June 15,2008 4:00 PM thru June 16, 2008 7:00 AM on the where abouts of LA,CA,GA & KC Like statements, demeanors, eyewitnesses, cell phone pings?
Interesting contradiction between what Cindy answered to the question what did Caylee call Mallory?
Cindy replied: “Aunt Mallory.”
A 32 month old baby saying ‘aunt’ and ‘Mallory’??… and it’s a complete contradiction to what George had said, as a more believable ‘Maww-eey’ for a baby.
Cindy uses a formal ‘Aunt’, not Auntie, or Maww-eey, or Auntie Maww-eey. So formal, and not believable for a baby learning to talk. (I believe George’s version, it makes sense, Cindy’s version does not make sense. Would Cindy have some sort of ‘distance’ or ‘formality’ with Mallory, another woman in her son’s life to not give the same answer as George? Strange– maybe some friction there…. under the surface… tolerated publicly because of Lee, who stated that Cindy and Casey come over and above gf Mallory in his own state depo (and he said ‘sorry’ to her on the record).
Jealousy perhaps at some level, with Lee’s favourite, his mom?
Cindy said about Casey: “They call her “mom”. All her friends call her “mom”. (as explained by Cindy in past LE interviews, and mentioned by Casey in jailhouse videos, Casey was the one to make sure everyone was behaving themselves in essense, she was the one to take care of them when they partied, she drove home etc, wasn’t the drinker in the crowd, etc.
(if Caylee had such a good “mom” figure, who was mom even to her own group of friends, why did Caylee need to call her babydoll, “mama”. Kids pick strange names, I guess– but why has this doll no separate identity from all the mother’s in the CMA household– maybe someone with child psychology can help out with this– maybe it’s nothing, or common??)
B
You are always respectful of the baby. I understand but could that also imply that the baby wasn’t ‘whole’ when tossed away or landing hard on the ground or was she gently placed on the ground? I guess you know what I am saying.
No, the evidence actually shows her to be intact at placement, imo. The postmortem fracture appears to be following full rigor, which again leads me to believe occurred upon impact (flung). I know this is not a popular opinion, but in my mind, puts her moving the body into the woods on 6/23 or 6/24.
B
#441 Granmomma
What the Date is that the picture or collection of pictures was sold I dont know. I would imagine it was well before October.
The date that the picture was actually taken I would imagine it to be sometime in Feb thru March of 2008, but guessing. I think the bruise on Caylees face is the clue.
The Globe issue is October 20th. I dont know who the “He” is. I am not sure who took the picture. I am not sure the picture is not doctored in some way. I think the implication is that Ricardo took the picture. I am not sure about that. Blink thinks the picture was taken at the Anthony’s home.
I am very curious to see what is in the background of that photo the part behind Caylee. Waiting for Blinks photo specialist to come thru. I dont think the Anthony’s couch will be in the background, but I have been wrong a time or two. I would think you would need some sophisticated software or the negative to figure it out but I am no expert, thats for sure.
One thing I cant figure out is why only now Thanks to Blink and Justice and perhaps Mom of 3 was this just discovered.
With all the people interested in this case CINDY why has no one linked the Globe picture to the crime scene before this. Except for LE of course. Maybe the Globes sales are down.
I cant say for certain it is the A’s home, I will explain when I post the few images and comments. I agree the timing on the bruise is the clue.
B
Gavrielle and Blink and Kleat
I had to read Kleat’s comments a few times . . . I did not understand which 2 links were being referenced. Now I do, and I apologize for not opening your supplied links when you first posted them. I misunderstood Blink’s response to you, and “assumed” (yes, “assumed”) you were both referencing the same, “one and only” cropped image that we have been focusing on. Gavrielle, again, great find.
I also then “assumed” from Kleat’s post that the heart clip was the issue the “photo retouching expert” was checking on. Kleat, you had the focus to check Gavrielle’s links. Good going.
So, Blink, not to assume anything, but I take it there is more to come.
Who’s photobucket is that, by the way, because those details were of a much higher resolution. Were they taken from the original Cover Awards link, perchance?
re: photobucket
Blink
Never mind. That’s okay. I just spotted the title within that photobucket of “whattheL”.
Time for me to retire.
Speaking of the father of Caylee, Cindy confirms my early suspicion, that she did not want to share Caylee by allowing the paternal family to have a relationship with Caylee.
Cindy said (state depo p 178): “The three of us decided we did not want anybody to have that.”
Q by Mr. Ashton: To have what?
A by Cindy: To have a relationship with Caylee. They weren’t involved, so we thought it was best for them not to be.
(now THAT selfish decision may have not been the best, for Caylee’s sake)
#356 Kleat, I am confused; could you please expound on your comment about “Cindy’s unplanned admission re: car, dead body.” What lies, and to whom, started before the 9/11 calls? Do you mean before that day or just before the calls on that day? Was Cindy’s My Space July 3 lament part of the plan, a warning to Casey that they knew what had happened? Or before that, George’s “gas cans theft” report to LE?
Okay, last question…what about all the gardening and paving activity at the house around the early part of July(3rd-4th?) Do you think Geo. and Cindy found something very troubling in the yard which made them put the wagons in a circle and commence the plan? My gosh, they don’t do it very well. It’s a mess.
Denial of the pregnancy until the last moment, as nurse Cindy did not know Casey was pregnant, although it was obvious to Rick and others. (Cindy believed Casey’s stories and ‘proof’ she was still having periods– so Cindy had that ‘Casey-said-so proof’).
Denial of pregnancy to anyone and everyone until the last moment, could this have had anything to do with keeping knowledge of the baby from the potential father– until the family could arrange with their lawyer, to circumvent the father’s rights?
Cindy says: “No one ever came forward to say they were– Caylee’s father.” p. 180 (this is a pattern with Cindy– it was up to the father to know Casey was having his baby as they all kept this a tightly held secret until the last possible moment, then they got total control not to share Caylee with anyone, even if something happened to Casey, the grandparents had legal possession. The father, whomever he was, never had much of a chance to learn about the pregnancy. All info came from Casey, about the father not wanting to be involved, etc. Deception, secrecy, and lies.)
Next episode in 100 Hopes Spring Drive will reveal the name of the attorney who arranged to subvert the father’s rights… or will it…. Tune in for part two of ‘Going Down with Drane’… or… ‘You Can Bet your Ashton, by George!!’
Lol, you know I await the opportunity to use those, giving full credit of course-
B
To Randie post # 339 There was rain and thunderstorms on July 15th, 2008 the day George picked up the car..docstoc.com has the weather for orlando all I did was go to the sight and type in june 2008 in Orlando florida and it came up with june, july and august weather, for anyone interested. Also tells you the high and lows for each day.
(if the State of Florida has a Wills Registry, which would give the name of the firm and will location, the wills of Casey, George and Cindy should be registered, and the name of the attorney who prepared or notarized the documents, should be available by subpoena, shouldn’t they? Is Mr. Ashton just asking a question to which he knows the answer already– and testing Cindy’s level of co-operation?)
“I have also considered it is simply what was in the laundry bag when she put her in it.
B”
Blinking Thinking…makes perfect sense!
I haven’t heard a peep on tv about The Globe Story or about the Anthony’s cruise other than that one article. What’s up with that? Could I have missed it? Anybody???
re: fringe hairs, I had assumed they meant limb hairs or really short neck hairs, etc., but after seeing them interpreted as cut hairs here, I looked it up and found a super cool article in the July 2000 issue of Forensic Science Communications called “Hairs, Fibers,
Crime, and Evidence” by Douglas W. Deedrick, Unit Chief, Trace Evidence Unit, Federal Bureau of Investigation.
They’re not limb hairs (those get their own designation) but sure enough they include neck hairs:
Fringe Hairs
Hairs originating from areas of the body outside those specifically designated as head or pubic are generally not suitable for significant comparison purposes. These hairs might originate from the neck, sideburns, abdomen, upper leg, and back.
Limb Hairs
Hairs from the legs and arms constitute limb hairs. These hairs are shorter in length, arc-like in shape, and often abraded or tapered at the tips. The pigment in limb hair is generally granular in appearance, and the medulla is trace to discontinuous.
While limb hairs are not routinely compared in a forensic laboratory, they can differ in appearance between individuals. These differences, however, are not considered sufficient to allow limb hairs to be of value for meaningful comparison purposes. The presence of leg or arm hairs on certain items of evidence may help to corroborate other investigative information.
Other Body Area Hairs
Axillary (underarm) hairs, chest hairs, eye hairs, and nose hairs are not routinely compared. As with limb hairs and fringe hairs, their presence may help to corroborate information obtained during an investigation.
snip
Has a nice pic of a postmortem root band, too, and discussion of animal hair. http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2000/deedric1.htm
There’s also a great article on fibers by the same dude. http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2000/deedric3.htm
# 436_
Kleat
YOUR QUOTE
“(the family has often thrown out little ‘reverse’ notions in their interviews with LE– like Lee calling out his mother for taking the 200 or so in ‘cash’ from Casey’s wallet– makes him look like he will be open with LE by even ‘telling’ on his mom so to speak. And Lee’s and Cindy/Annie’s statements that Annie wasn’t a good friend since she learned how Casey lied– makes you believe Annie will not be trusted too much, or that LE can take Annie’s statements at face value. (NOT!)”
I felt that there was a great deal of purpose behind Lee’s statement that he used “ploys”, and had “worked one person against another”. I am of the opinion that part of that testimony was designed, however, to discount his statements made to Tony under concealed wire and video. In that video, he tells Tony that Casey “lies for no reason”. Having been caught with such negative, albeit refreshing honesty, he has to now set up a reason for having said that. Mark my words, he will now try to say that he said that ONLY to get Tony to tell him about Casey, and that he really didn’t mean it.
# 438_Momof3/EVERYONE
YOUR QUOTE:
“Cindy states that the pet carriers were also kept above the washer and dryer… Hmm”
A little OT, but related:
Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I vaguely recall that sometime after everything went down, the Anthonys had replaced a broken washing machine. Does anyone remember this, or was this speculative? Or have I lost it?
# 439_wpgmouse
YOUR QUOTE:
”
That t-shirt could have been a gift, maybe from Lee.”
I was thinking that either 1. Casey bought the shirt, or 2. it was a gift from the Grunds or Ricardo. Cindy was trying to distance herself from that shirt. She, (paraphrased), said that Caylee didn’t have any tops with lettering. Can they show that someone else bought it? Or are they trying to implicate the phantom nanny, who “had a whole separate stash of clothing for Caylee” at her place? In my opinion, it wasn’t Lee who purchased the shirt.
# 444_suz
YOUR QUOTE:
“Oh, no, I’m alone in Camp Coincidence? Say it ain’t so, Bees!”
suz, I haven’t come to an absolute conclusion as to whether that photo was sold coincidentally yet. However, the family is distancing themselves from the shirt, and the photo, so something gives.
# 436_
Kleat
YOUR QUOTE
“(the family has often thrown out little ‘reverse’ notions in their interviews with LE– like Lee calling out his mother for taking the 200 or so in ‘cash’ from Casey’s wallet– makes him look like he will be open with LE by even ‘telling’ on his mom so to speak. And Lee’s and Cindy/Annie’s statements that Annie wasn’t a good friend since she learned how Casey lied– makes you believe Annie will not be trusted too much, or that LE can take Annie’s statements at face value. (NOT!)”
I wanted to add that, in my opinion, with Lee & Cindy, that they appear to expect loyalty to an extreme absurd level. Even in the case with Amy and her stolen checks, they felt that she should have stood by Casey regardless of the damage done to her. I think it is the mindset of,” You’re either with us, or against us”. Anyone “not with them” and not completely on board with their position is an enemy and “not to be trusted”.
Remember when one of Casey’s friend (can’t remember his name) saw her jogging on Hopespring, maybe Casey went to where she dumped Caylee and threw in the clothes, since we know Caylee had no clothes on.
# 452_Anita
“Remember when one of Casey’s friend (can’t remember his name) saw her jogging on Hopespring, maybe Casey went to where she dumped Caylee and threw in the clothes, since we know Caylee had no clothes on.”
If Maura was around, she might be able to answer that. I know she did pings and time lines, etc. If I get ambitious, maybe I’ll try to find it.
“Next episode in 100 Hopes Spring Drive will reveal the name of the attorney who arranged to subvert the father’s rights… or will it…. Tune in for part two of ‘Going Down with Drane’… or… ‘You Can Bet your Ashton, by George!!’”
KLEAT
What was up with that earlier evidence photo (it looked like George’s reflection in the window) of an sttorney’s group office? Or was that the group that set up the non-profit?
I have had the privledge (UGH) of smelling human decomp…..its something you will NEVER forget. Papa dearest knew damn well what that smell was. I have always asked what kinda cop was he if even thinks it was PIZZA? I assure you all decomp and rotting pizza are to very different lovely scents. This whole family are a bunch of liars. They have more stories then a book of Grimm fairy tales. I can understand the wanting to believe your daughter didn’t do it. BUT…..for godsakes ……Morons….Just who are they trying to save? I still believe Casey will cop a plea. But a needle in her arm would be sweet!
Blink
So whatever happened to the poster that said her friend on AOl had the photo for a year? Is this a person that normally posts here? Seems like they made the statement and then hauled out. I really wanted to know the answer to my questions.
I still dont understand that post, sorry, again, I believe they are referring to the cropped image, but if they are stating they have the full image, why wouldn’t they still have it?
B
#469 Blink
Agreed, that was strange. I wanted to know if this person had found it in a photo bucket, whatever, before they were deleted.
The more I mess around with both the cropped and uncropped images – the more I think that is a tendril of hair I see and not a bruise. JMO
My guess is the fringe hairs tie the bags , etc to the family garage, where everyone got their hair cut, right? Maybe they have a mix of hair clippings from Cindy, Caylee or Casey.
They asked an awful lot of questions of Cindy about dying her hair,etc. If that is the case, it will be difficult to say that a stranger went into the garage to get the bags.
Lee thought that he was brilliant in his investigations, but in his misadventures, he actually helps the state by confirming over and over again, that Casey’s demeanor was normal and happy. He later tries to explain this in a subversive manner, that Casey and George always act happy-go-lucky even if something is wrong. But that argument falls flat, in the video when Casey is crying, standing next to Baez, while he is giving the speech about Casey being a victim. It demonstrated that she was quite capable of showing emotion when something was impacting her on a personal level.
Just one quick question…..the reason I think Spindy knew on July 15th. She says she had talked to Crazy but not seen her, so when you pick up a car at a tow company and you haven’t seen your daughter or granddaughter in over a month. And you already know your daughter is not your best friend (as Spindy would like for us all to believe) and you are warned by the tow yard employee/owner about the odor. Why oh why would you even move the car? Wouldn’t a concerned parent call the police immediately?
I “ABSOLUTELY” think they ALL knew before July 15th. Spindy wanted to report the car stolen first, so they could get the attention of the smell that was in the car off of Crazy…..JMO, of course.
A thread or 2 ago- a poster claimed they had heard on TV that this case was being treated as a “sex crime”. What goes with that? The first thought that entered my mind- as sick as it is- was….. hmmmmmmmm no clothes on the child? What are your thoughts?
That is incorrect, it had to do with someone working on the case’s title. It is common for multiple areas to contribute to the caseload.
B
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/08/pictures-of-caylee/ Here are 3 different pics of bruises under Caylee’s eyes. What is the coincidence of that? At least 1 looks like a cigarette burn to me.
I truly think the cell phone records from July 3rd till July 15th will answer my last question for me. Because if Spindy had not spoken with Crazy, which I got the feeling that she hadn’t, because in her depo she said that she started her myspace page so maybe she could get Crazy to talk to her. So if you picked up your daughter’s car at the tow yard with that atrocious smell, why would you want to take it home and clean it and then find your daughter?
Spindy and George knows what the “death smell” is!
Gran, can I ask you to not do the name calling thing please? Their real names is fine, its just my thing.
tia
B
Suz – #450:
You know..something just struck me as I read your post.
If Casey dumped the body – and then came back to the house a few times to try and clean the car:
The car must have already smelled.
The smell must have lingered in the garage – even after she left..don’t you think?
So, would George or Cindy have smelled that upon coming home…and that began the “where is Casey and Caylee…something is wrong?”
“Conway says the search is still on for the mysterious nanny named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, who Casey claims to have disappeared with Caylee.”
http://www.wftv.com/news/21338069/detail.html
Come on now seriously does Brad Reeeeaaalllyy believe that Zanny is still out there?
Sure Blink……….sorry!
TY
B
I think the bruise on the face is really fresh- like minutes old- and it does look like a corner of a table bruise. My daughter’s had one before as a toddler- I still remember because I kept thinking- “she could have lost an eye- oh my god”. Can you tell I was a nervous mom? LOL
Blink – any more articles in the works?
I know you had talked about doing one regarding the stain in the trunk. Are you still planning on doing that?
Thanks!
I am, eventually. I have 3 diff projects I am involved in right now. I am going to try to take a “for real” break this weekend and just be mom.
B
Phew, thanks, Bees. I’m saving a sleeping bag and some s’mores for you just in case. Of course, you never know, I might be persuaded to come to the other side…like if I see a bear or some more evidence or something. In the meantime, I’ll tough it out alone, holding my lone candle in the darkness. Bravely. WAIT—-WHAT WAS THAT NOISE???!!
debkit,
Since George said it was raining, and the weather “documents” that it was raining…….then why lie about it? For cindy to make that comment is beyond me.
On one of these post/threads someone made a clever assessment. It was regarding (some tooth Cindy is making claims about).
When I went to bed last night I couldn’t get that comment out of my head.
Cindy says something about the worng number of teeth were with the child in the woods………so it obviously couldn’t be her grandaughter. Welllllllll……
What about the obvious barret?
What about the obvious shorts?
What about the obvious brown hair?
What about the obvious “tape”?
But, most importantly, what about the obvious pink shirt???
As the poster brought out…..”coincidence” that all those are the same as her grandaughters?????
MOTIVE
Casey wanted to get out of that house. She had fantasies of living with Amy. She had fantasies of her parents moving out. She stayed away as much as possible, moving in with new boyfriends in rapid fashion, etc. Staying over random friend’s homes. Creating a “job” where she was required to work days and evenings, and to be away for long periods of time. She wasn’t a drunk, drug addict, or anything else. She found new loves, looking for the best opportunity to escape home. Caylee was the link to Cindy and home; Cindy said “she is our child too”. Cindy had Caylee cremated in direct conflict with Casey’s wishes to visit a grave site. Even with her daughter’s death, Casey was denied self determination.
Casey could never break from Cindy with Caylee around. Cindy was looking to take over custody of Caylee. Casey would never feel that she ‘looked right’ leaving Caylee behind with Cindy and George. It would be contrary to her ‘Mom of the group’ persona. Perhaps she also felt that Cindy would be too controlling with Caylee as well. Maybe she didn’t want history to repeat itself. The only way to make a complete break, would be to remove the one element that had her inextricably tethered to the domineering control of that house, and that was Caylee. I think that that is the MOTIVE more than the life of partying. I think the partying was a celebration of freedom from control. I can’t say whether I believe that it was premeditated in an instance of rage, or over time. But I have stepped away from considering an accidental death.
461 Comment by Kleat — October 22, 2009 @ 2:18 am
“Denial of the pregnancy until the last moment, as nurse Cindy did not know Casey was pregnant, although it was obvious to Rick and others. (Cindy believed Casey’s stories and ‘proof’ she was still having periods– so Cindy had that ‘Casey-said-so proof’).”
Kleat I just returned home a home visit back in the states, I met up with a best friend, her 14 year old daughter had a baby last year, she did not realize her daughter was pregnant (as she claims) she said she didn’t notice until her daughter had try outs for cheerleading and had to wear tight shorts and a bra top, when she walked out of the locker room the coach was the one who pointed to my friends daughter and asked her “Is She Pregnant” I asked my friend how did you not know how could you not tell, she says she wore baggy clothes all the time, her daughter gave birth 20 days later, she was at full term for crying out loud…LAME Excuse I believe my friend was rowing the boat down the (de)NIAL, she was a good Christian Lady and No Way was her lil girl pregO, sick and sad part about it, other then the 14 year old raising a baby, is the father was 19…no charges brought, lets just sweep that one under the rug shall we…makes me sick and so angry, it is better to keep your good standing with friends and neighbors then place your dirty laundry all over the front yard for everyone to see. Sound like anyone we know?
I believe Cindy knew but didn’t want to know, she didn’t want to admit that her precious angel was a lil bit of a loosey goosey, will hide it until the baby comes then we have this beautiful little baby and everyone will be so GaGa over the baby and the positive attention will totally out weigh the negative and everyone will forget to ask any questions.
Blink,
I have read this thread with great care and IMHO I still see a different motive behind the selection of that picture.
I think Casey picked it because she liked the way she looked in it.
I keep seeing references to Casey that alternately picture her as an evil criminal mastermind or a self centered idiot.
I see Casey as the latter – a self-centered person who simply cannot see things from a perspective other than her own. If we assume this is possible, isn’t it also possible that she could look at that picture and not even notice, care, or even remember (I think she knows) that this was the shirt that poor little girl was wearing (or was close to her) at the end of her short life – because all Casey really noticed was herself?
I think that it has always been all about Casey and that any actions or decisions she makes should be considered from that perspective.
Regarding the “odds” of that picture being used – IMHO terms such as “astronomical” do not accurately characterize the true odds of the event in question.
– There are a finite number of “face” photos that show both Casey and Caylee (IMHO a key factor driving the final selection that may have been driven by the purchaser.)
– There are only so many tops that poor Caylee had. I am a father and remember how a young toddler could go through a mountain of tops in a single day – but there are still only so many on hand. How often were they washed and reused? Were there favorites that were washed often and worn daily (I remember some of these with my kids when they were young)?
– We always had a big pile of tops – but the truth is that certain tops were used for certain things, and we always had a big pile of too small – still too big – too stained, etc. So, the truth is that for any persion in time there are really oly so many tops that would be possibles.
– While the odds may certainly be long – I would not call them astronomical. And I think folks are considering this from the view of thousands of pictures, any of which may have been selected. I think if you reduce this to the number of face shots with just Casey and Caylee, where Casey really likes the way she looks, you are already dealing with a much smaller pool of possible pictures.
I think all that Casey sees when she looks at that picture – to this day – is her own face.
And I also think that only she would be self-centered and dumb enough to pick a picture for national publication – that she knows shows the shirt she was buried with – because Casey likes the way she looks in it.
As I said, JMHO. So please be nice.
Clint
Clint-
welcome to blinkoncrime.com.
So I am clear, your saying you agree Casey sold the photo herself, just not necessarily the reason for it?
tia
B
Is it possible that of the cell phone records that have been released….some may have been redacted? Does anyone know if any of the family saw or talked to Casey after the first of July? I know the Cindy testified to talking to her (Casey) daily, but do we know that to be a fact? Or, could it be a half-truth, a mistruth or whatever Cindy likes to call lies?
Blink, I am really sorry to offend you.
I will wait and see if anyone answers and then I will just lurk. I feel terrible. There was no ill intentions intended. I just try in every way possible to find the humor in everything.
No problem, no offense taken, it’s all good. I am not a fan of this families actions, and this may not make sense to some, but they are still Caylee’s family and she loved them. I feel like when we “personalize” it, it is disrespectful for the only people she knew and loved and further disrespects her. They dont seem to care about doing that to her memory, so I just feel obligated to on here. jmho-
B
To funny you got to love WFTV for keeping it real…
I hope the Anthony’s fired their PR Rep after this Stunt, he should have stopped them before they dialed 1-800- Liar’s Travel Agency and made their reservations.
Blink, I know you hate name calling so I am going to chill…1 thing though is “Fools” consider name calling? Just asking.
http://www.wftv.com/news/21338069/detail.html
“Puerto Rico is, I would say, the focus for the Zenaida Gonzalez that Casey Anthony speaks of, and that’s as far as I can go,” Conway previously said.
But Puerto Rico was not on the Anthonys’ itinerary when they cruised with their friends. They only went as far as Nassau, 738 miles from Puerto Rico, just an hour and a half flight time.
“It raises the question, why are the parents not in Puerto Rico or spending that money on the investigation to help further the research into finding Zenaida Gonzalez, or the alleged Zenaida Gonzalez, in Puerto Rico?” Dorner questioned.
Teri, most people want to strike ME after reading my posts, so I’m glad you had a different reaction (feeling punchy today, ignore me, lol).
Yes, that’s a good point, but isn’t it the case that Casey “never” backed her car into the garage, except on the day she borrowed the neighbor’s shovel. And I would think she would want to back it in if cleaning the trunk.
I do think the smell got increasingly worse with time and heat and especially when the windows were rolled up, so is it possible that it wasn’t HORRID that early on? Perhaps she would smell a little something, then pour some Arm and Hammer in the trunk, do a little scrubbing, throw in some fabric softener sheets, drive with the windows down, and the odor would sort of go away for a bit. That’s what I had to do when I spilled an entire bottle of milk in my car in the summertime. I would think I had gotten it all out each time I cleaned it each morning, and then when I got off work and back into my car, oy veh! Still bad. Then I’d clean it again, and overnight it come back.
So maybe it wasn’t bad enough that she thought she had to do anything other than 1) put decoy trash in there and 2) make up the dead squirrel story. If it had smelled as bad as it did when Geo and Cin found it, I think she would have ripped out the carpet in the trunk.
No disrespect to lil Caylee I promise I stand with you and everyone else fighting for Justice for this baby, I just read your statement to “Gran” I apologize for the Fools statement, I just can’t help but to be just raging angry and just pop off at the mouth when it comes to these people who have lied lied lied, make money off their murder grandchild and there are hard working honest folks out there who can’t get a job, single mothers out there taking care of their babies alone, soldiers dying in the desert for freedom and the rights of all people (Casey included)…and the A’s are kickin it on a cruise ship, working on their tans, drinking margarita’s, dancin on the Pramada Deck doing the limbo. How do you not just want shake the chicken snot out of them?
Is it me or the more information that is coming out and the more damning the information is, the crazier the antics get with these people? Is there a term for this kind of behavior? And I am not buying “ugly coping”.
dee and kleat, I am so torn over Cindy and how much is denial, how much is naivete, and how much is just plain lies. I do know a woman who is 100% gullible about whatever her children tell her—to the point that it seems pathological. She just does not ever doubt their word.
Cindy reminds me of that, but then there are times that she is totally on to Casey and her antics, so I don’t think she is as gullible as my acquaintance. I thought we read later (re: the pregnancy) that Cindy actually knew about it well before the family get together when Casey was 7 mos. along, and thus was just trying to cover it up. (Bald face lying must be a family practice—and it can be effective.) I can’t recall where I read that (maybe an earlier version from Lee?).
But with the teeth and the clothes and the “maybe she’s not dead” thing—I think Cindy might do that (unconsciously) to mentally protect herself. I think the truth is just too much for her sometimes and she just snaps back into denial, like a reflex. That’s what happens under stress—you revert to protective behaviors.
Same with being mad at LE for making Casey their nearly sole suspect from the beginning. I think her reasoning is something like, “Ok, she may be guilty, BUT they really should have looked at other possibilities just on principle, and I’m mad that they didn’t seem to. So I still want them to check other possibilities even though there’s all this evidence against Casey, just to be fair.”
I don’t think it’s anything she can help doing, or that she is even totally aware of. But, who knows. I think we need a mental health professional to chime in.
# 496_suz
Maybe Caylee’s body had been decomposing for a day or two in another (sealed) container, and then was loaded into the car trunk only to carry it away for disposal. Some seepage could have occurred at that point creating the smell in the car later.Perhaps this occurred during removal of the remains from another container, and there was only ‘drippings’. That might account for the lack of evidence. If there was only minimal leakage, perhaps she didn’t consider that it would continue to ‘ripen’. I think Maura discounts this theory, but could it be possible?
Adding to my last note (smell), the Anthonys tend to love those plastic bins. Could Caylee have been stored in one with a tight seal? Didn’t Casey have one in her trunk? What happened to that? Was it recovered?