Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Caylee Pic in The “Big Trouble” T- SOLD TO THE GLOBE BEFORE Remains Found?
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BREAKING NEWS
Orlando, Fl– In the recent depositions by the State Attorneys Office in the case against Casey Anthony one common exhibit was noted in each deposition of George, Lee and Cindy Anthony.
A cropped version of a photo of Caylee wearing the tshirt that is believed recovered with her remains.
All 3 Anthony’s claimed to not have seen this picture before previously, although without being prompted, Lee noted the photo was cropped.
How then, did it get in the hands of The Globe? Could this be the evidence removed from the Anthony home that Jose Baez tells Cindy Anthony to “Zip It” during her testimony and objects to information he considered sealed by the judge?
This edition of the Globe was released October 8, 2008. Six days before Casey Anthony was indicted for murder and remanded to jail without bond.
THE SALE OF THIS PHOTO PRE-DATES THE RECOVERY OF CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY FROM THE WOODS OFF SUBURBAN DRIVE.
One could make the leap that the person selling it would have had knowledge of what she was wearing when 34 month old Caylee Marie met her tragic end.
(EDITORS NOTE: Don’t even try the picture was sold at the yardsale with the clothes and laundry bag– PUHLEASE..)
Blinkoncrime.com poster “Justice 23” contributed to this report.
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I have read that some people think that it is a curl and not a bruise on Caylee’s face in the photo. I couldn’t imagine why it would make any difference because the evidence IS the photo. The more I thought about it, I began to realize a bruise or sore would give a time frame for when the photo was taken. In all probability it was taken in March 2008 or before based on Ricardo’s statement. If it is the same bruise and there are more than one photogragh of it(apparently there are several), then the photo was NOT taken after June 16, 2008.
#491- One of Casey’s many lies was her and Amy getting the Anthony house. I had thoughts that Casey’s plans were to off her mom and dad and live happily ever after in her family home.
What gets me is how brazen she was about lying. I mean- come on- she’s gonna lie about that, about the check and money thefts and go on about her business thinking she won’t get called out on it? Lord have mercy.
I pre-ordered Diane Fanning’s new book on Casey coming out November 3rd, I think. I thought maybe it might have some insights that we’ve not seen? Not sure, but should be interesting- I like Ms Fanning.
In everyone’s opinion, do you all think that putting Caylee in that specific shirt with that phrase on it, was some sort of twisted statement from Casey, claiming she no longer had to deal with “big trouble” for her?
WestSideHudson #491
You nailed MOTIVE, in my opinion. TonE was just the latest person that she fixated on to be her ticket out of the Anthony house. Another example was the fixation and “miscarriage” drama at the “Anything But Clothes Party” with the guy named Brandon that occurred not too long before she met TonE. I remember reading in the discovery that one of her friends said Casey had “imagined” this life with Brandon. And that noone believed her that she really had a miscarriage. Very telling, IMO. Also telling is the fact that she then fixated on a guy who was not ready for kids. At this point Caylee was murdered. I think all of the other “stuff” with her mother probably gave further justification to her warped mind.
It is so bizarre that Conway would say they are still looking for the real Zanny. What are the odds that they will try to tie poor little Somer’s murder to Zanny? Wasn’t it a Hispanic woman (and two men) who tried to snatch another little girl near where poor Somer was kidnapped?
Dee…..I’m with you on the statement at 11:05 a.m.! May I ask….are you the Dee that was at crimesearchers online? Just curious! I know “that” Dee really did alot of blogging about giving the family the benefit of the doubt. Just wondered if maybe that was you and you’ve had a huge change of heart.
Blink, I understand your position. I truly do, and I will be good while I’m visiting your site!
Continuing on the fixation and drama theme – it seems to me that Casey demonstrates a good bit of histrionic behavior. Enough has come out in discovery (friends accounts of her, Tracy M’s assessment of her, etc) that it seems safe to say that some personality disorder was in play here. And I think the defense might be trying to play this up by having her and Andrea Lyon appearing in court posing as twins. But obviously this doesn’t rise to the level of insanity needed for an insanity defense. Are they jusy trying to gain sympathy for her by doing this?? I wonder if anyone has told Casey what people really think about her ‘dress up” games????
wpgmouse, not the Anthony sun porch for sure– that was just a first impression from the ‘window’ idea, but not a window, it’s a picture, plus, the window shapes and sizes on the porch are all wrong for this photo– thanks.
Dee– you think that IF someone got a quarter million dollars for publication rights of the photos/videos that Cindy had in her possession to use (boxes of them was one description from mos. ago), that this money could pry loose the tightest lips in Puerto Rico?!?!! ESPECIALLY since the baby was still just said to be ‘missing’ and could have been in Puerto Rico according to the Anthony camp.
If the Anthony’s, took themselves, George included, and went to Puerto Rico, with a sack of money and promises of ‘no questions asked’– just return baby to us, or provide info leading to rescue of our baby, that this wouldn’t have had a very good chance of turning a few critical stones in the case had the baby been there, or had the (according to the A theory) perp moved ‘back’. That is an incredible amount of money by any standards, for reward for info from the residents of PR.
wsh, re your 473, no idea what photo you mean, sorry missed that one
suz, it will be really interesting to hear everything the tow yard guy has to say during trial in regards to th smell in the trunk, he, other then the A’s, got he first whif, so he can explain it better than anyone. Amazing that he has not been thrown under the Anthony Wipe Out Bus, hope my post doesn’t give Baez any ideas, I mean the list of suspects is growing each and everyday.
Seriously Kleat, rotfl, I am trying to be subtle.
I see the 300 lb elephant! I see it!
B
gran, I am the dee in Germany I only have ever posted here and scared monkey’s…
Kleat are you sprechen to me?
Okay, I MUST ask these questions again because it is making me CRAZY.
Can someone PLEASE help me out here before I go NUTS. I have been following this case since day 1 and pretty much have understood everything that is going on UNTIL NOW. There are a handful of things that I am just not getting. PLEASE HELP.
1. What is the significance of George and him placing or not placing duct tape on the gas cans. Over the hole or whatever?
2. What is the significance of Lee, his truck and the gas cans?
3. Are we completely ruling out that Lee had anything to do with helping Casey in any way after the fact?
4. What is the significance of the lanyard?
Any guidance that anyone can give me would be MOST appreciated.PLEASE SOMEONE.
What is Mama doll doing in the trunk? I know how easily children’s toys can end up almost anywhere, but for a doll that was part of the Caylee’s cherished top 3 that she had to have in plain sight, I repeat – what was it doing in the trunk?
Codes, clues and cryptograms – I’m of the opinion there are none. As much as the Anthony’s would have us believe that Casey was capable of thinking and talking in complex riddles and metaphors, Lee seems to be the one to lead the thinking in that direction. In his 7/25 jailhouse visit with Casey, he is the one who suggests that her computer passwords might contain clues. She looks confused for a second and then quickly jumps on the bandwagon – why, yes they do! The same with asking her who to trust. She’s nothing more than a bad actress who, because she knows she’s being videoed, wants us to think she’s talking in clues and telling us something profound by following Lee’s lead. Although I concede that she may have been panicking at this point that Caylee’s body would soon be found, and decided she was going to have to find a way to share her knowledge with her family.
Batphones and The Walls Have Ears – Now if you honestly had nothing to hide and wanted to cooperate with LE, why would you need to obtain batphones (the terminology alone makes me wince because by definition, it implies subterfuge) to have protected conversations or hide in the bathroom to talk? In her depo, Cindy said she was never really alone with Casey to ask her any specific questions as to what happened to Caylee. But in the same depo, Cindy also said Casey slept in Cindy’s room on an air matress next to the bed. Are we to believe that these two never had any late night conversations about the missing baby’s whereabouts? Isn’t that why Casey was brought home to begin with – to help find the baby?
Pregnancy test – Unless I’ve missed it, I haven’t seen any forensics on the pregnancy kit found at the site on Suburban Dr. Do we know if it has been tied to Casey? I can’t shake the feeling that this is yet another invisible piece to the puzzle. If Casey thought she was pregnant with Tony’s baby (the third unlit star in Bella Vita tattoo?), this brings a whole other dynamic to the episode.
I thought mama was in the car seat, or did I get that wrong?
B
#462 Kleat
“Tune in for part two of ‘Going Down with Drane’… or… ‘You Can Bet your Ashton, by George!!’”
LOL! Thanks for the comic relief.
#324 wsh. Gotcha. I just wasn’t sure where the theory that the shirt was too small for Caylee sprang from and was just trying to understand it and if it did originate from facts that I missed. I know you didn’t present it as fact. I enjoy reading your ideas and analysis.
And of course, I’m in agreement that Anthony claims have no credibility. My point was, that if they were claiming they didn’t see the shirt, then the notion that it was too small couldn’t have come from them.
suz, what that movie with what’s his name “you can’t handle the truth” that is the A’s for certain…
#390 Blink
“She is what I like to call “The overseller”. When asked about it, she first responds “I dont know where it was taken..”
When I analyze those statements where I know or believe it to be untrue, these are the most verbose and overkill as to the reasons the interviewer should believe her.”
Casey seems to have the same dynamic; an example from the 7/25 Lee/Casey Jail Visit. Rather than a simple, heartfelt response to a straightforward question, we get discourse.
LEE ANTHONY: You think Caylee’s OK right now?
CASEY ANTHONY: My gut feeling? Mom asked me yesterday (INAUDIBLE) the psychologist asked me this morning that I met with through the court (ph). In my gut, she is still OK and it still feels like she’s close to home.
LEE ANTHONY: OK.
CASEY ANTHONY: So I mean, that’s still my best feeling at the moment. Again, if that changes, I mean, obviously, I’m going to reach out and say something that immediately the (INAUDIBLE) I know Mom will understand this better than anyone, that there is that type of bond that you have with your kids.
westsidehudson Jean is just a Caylee supporter And a Richard Grund Supporter. She doesn’t know the family personally… She has the cropped version same as I do. I believe she got her’s the same place I did and without me mentioning the site. she mentioned it first. And I gave her the link. And it was taken at this myspace that the Anthony’s put up Mine was anyway. It cropped. . And Michelle Bart ran it for some time.
Last Login: 2009-07-18 7/18/2009
The photo has been removed from that site on myspace
http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing
I told jean to come here. She has the link I am sure she will when she has the time.
Thanks Shyloh.
I think I am a bit cloudy today. Are you saying everyone got the cropped photo from the above site, which is maintained by the Anthony’s, the same photo they all denied ever seeing?
B
Cindy said end of her first depo day, that she could not remember the attorney’s name who did the paperwork for the family re: Caylee, their wills and the arrangments that George and Cindy would have Caylee, if anything were to happen to Casey– NOT the father.
Cindy couldn’t remember, but said George would remember because ‘HE USED HIM FOR THE FIRST ATTORNEY’ and she goes on to state ‘I can’t remember his name. I have it at the house but I don’t have it with me.’
Ms. D-B asks Cindy, ‘If you could bring tomorrow– that would be helpful.’ Cindy says ‘Sure.’
(Pt I, Pg 181)
Now to the depo transcript for the next day (pt ll)– before this topic is raised again (and I’m not there in the reading yet), Cindy is asked about Mark NeJame, and in her discussion of how they came to know about Mr. NeJame, she explains:
“…and asked our personal friend who’s an attorney, Paul Kelly, the one that handled George’s Work Comp case and set up Caylee’s first trust fund.”
QUESTION– was Paul Kelly also the one Cindy says that George ‘used for a first attorney’ since he ‘set up Caylee’s first trust fund”???
If so, was that an ‘OUT AND OUT LIE’ by Cindy to say she couldn’t remember the attorney’s name but had it at home? Paul Kelly was the name (the friend– ‘personal friend) who worked with George in the past on his Work Comp AND was very early on the scene to help with the missing child– ‘the first attorney’, so is Paul Kelly the one and same ‘first attorney’ or was there another ‘first attorney’ before Kelly, or between Kelly and Mark NeJame whose name Cindy could not remember? (she would NOT forget her own friend’s name and need to look up his name at home to answer the question ‘tomorrow’)
If a lie– Cindy must remember that she told Ms. D-B under oath, that she does not like it when people lie to her, and Ms. D-B responded with “I DON’T EITHER”.
By the way. That photo has been removed. I haven’t been there for sometime. But this blog reminded me of that pic.
From the My Clerk site:
10/21/2009 A PRIVILEGE LOG OF DOMINIC CASEY
10/21/2009 A NOTICE OF FILING PRIVILEGE LOG OF DOMINIC CASEY IN SUPPORT OF MR. CASEY’S MOTION TO STRIKE NOTICE OF DEPOSITION AND MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
Here is some info on what the FL courts have ruled regarding privilege logs.
http://www.flmd.uscourts.gov/Forms/JgSpaulding/StandingOrderPrivilege.pdf
What do you think? Is he going to be able to wiggle out of this deposition? And why is this the first time we’ve heard of any such privilege logs that Dominic Casey had?
Good day – have been despondently following the news since the discovery of the remains. When I first heard a woman claimed to have left her daughter with a non-existent babysitter, a month previous, and further, the child was still missing, the conclusion seemed to be a blinding glimpse of the obvious.
However, on this topic – any cover photo would have been chosen by the Globe editiorial board. That decision seems a little easy, the mother is accused of placing the child in a trunk and that what’s she is doing in the photo. The shiner was a terrific bonus for them.
A horrific coincidence, but a coincidence nevertheless. Is Casey twisted enough to have made a point of including it. No doubt. Was there any way for Casey to have ‘editorial input’ on the layout of her story. Highly doubtful.
Sorry but this is a bit too byzantine to buy.
e
How is she having editorial control if she only sold them that photo? Also, we dispelled the trunk issue.
B
I have read 2 comments here in Re: the pic from TL’s cell phone, dated 6/2/08. That area under her eye definitely looks like a cigarette burn to me. Granted, I am only going by my computer image, and I can only zoom in on it, but I am an RN-more specifically a School Nurse Teacher (not working now due to little children of my own) but I had written that hypothesis on another site and I really think ppl thought I was nuts! The area looks reddened and is almost perfectly round. An abrasion is more likely seen on a bony prominence like an elbow or knee. Say one gets an abrasion on your shin, it is elongated in shape. It just does not look like a bruise to me. At least my opinion has finally been validated, if only by 2. Pure speculation, only basing it on my own experiences with children in the Nsg. field.
suz,thank you for reminding me (post #393),exactly why i think george and cindy knew early on cuz of reporting the gas can on june 23,i’ve thought he did it to cover his a**,funny he’s now saying he didnt put that tape on,and that tape had no fingerprints?huh? but whoever just suggested that casey left cleaning rags with decomp in the garage (which also would continue to increase in smell)to the point of alerting the decomp nurse,and ex-cop to the trash with the decomp rags is a good theory.but i still like hold out that its not impossible caylee died with cindy’s awareness and cindy’s winniepooh shrinememorial was going to be the anthony’s new backyard pink flamingo.til casey screwed it all up.
Todd in Tulsa, let me go out on a limb and predict that everyone but me will say yes, the shirt was a message, and that includes LE, lol. I think not, but then I don’t even necessarily agree that all (or maybe any) of the computer searches suggest premeditation. I think LE tends to be overly vigilant sometimes, and the example I like to use is they look in your garage and see an old rusty pipe in the corner, a bag of nails on a workbench, and maybe some gasoline by the mower and say you had materials to make a pipe bomb.
Why does anyone google “shovel”? I don’t know, but what would it gain you murder-wise?
I think there is a tendency for even innocent things to take on an ominous tone. When i watch a horror movie at night, every creak and groan from the furnace downstairs suddenly sounds sinister. I think the same thing about the FBI chick who tought she taw a body outline in the trunk (although I do entertain the possibility that all of these things might be true..!).
Nope, I disagree the shirt was intentional except to possibly point the finger at another person and support a story.
B
If I remember correctly, a long time ago George admitted to LE (possibly FBI) that he knew what that odor was in the car but Cindy kept saying to him “it’s rotting food, right George?” and to give her some comfort he told her that yes, the smell was coming from the food. But he admitted to knowing better. Wish I could remember which interview he said that. So, right there, we know the whole rotting pizza story is a total fabrication on George’s part. Don’t we?
“Is it me or the more information that is coming out and the more damning the information is, the crazier the antics get with these people? Is there a term for this kind of behavior? And I am not buying “ugly coping.”
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Dee, could it be that the poorly-behaved Anthonys are trying to pull focus from their imprisoned bank account? Or, detract from upcoming disclosure? The defense just received another 2000 sheets of information that we’ll soon see.
I think, if I’m understanding correctly, that it’s alright to be critical of the Anthonys behavior, it’s just the name-calling that sounds juvenile.
suz, I’m sorry for leaving you all alone ~ it just became easier to believe the photo selection was intentional rather than a co-inky-dink. But . . . just think how wise and revered you will be if you’re the lone voice that proves to be right!!!
Just read the section of Cindy’s depo where JB tells her to “zip it”. It sounds to me like he’s afraid she’s going to be her usual chatty kathy and talk way too much about what “they” gave him — the things that LE supposedly were offered many times but never wanted. When she was talking about the items she gave him, Ashton said “identify the items and limit it to that”. Baez then added “by you. by you.” Could it be that another family member gave JB an item that could possibly be a “bombshell” and the defense is not saying yet what that is? So maybe Casey gave him something or maybe she told her mother to give him something. In that regard, it wouldn’t have been from Cindy; it would have been from Casey.
First time I have posted here or anywhere.But have followed this blog since Caylee was mentioned.My heart breaks as does all of yours and we all want the same results…for Caylee’s killer to be punished to the full extent of the law.I am also a member of second life.All of the people who post here are amazing and this is where I come to hear what I beleive are the facts and discoveries in this case.The thoughts that I would like to contribute are possibly Caylee called her doll Momma because it may have said Momma or some other things as many dolls do. And possibly the laundry bag she was found in came from brother Lee’s house. I do think that Casey spent alot of time at her brothers house to get away from her Mother. And I think he knows much more than he is willing to tell. Big Brothers are protective of little sisters. With a mother like Cindy I believe that when they could help out each other they did.Survival so to speak.Just like the promise he publically made her to the code talk they have.As every one knows Cindy supported every one, so she made all the choices and decisions for everyone it appears.Much like we are seeing now. Cindy trying control all including LE,FBI,MEDIA even blogs that she does not like. I too seem to be reading here every day hoping to find out that she has confessed, because I believe she is guilty of killing her sweet little child.I also believe that she was involved in some type of drug use.Not sure which drug but something.The only other thing that I can think of is maybe there really was a bitter violent battle over Caylee and she was killed at that time and they are trying to cause as much confusion as possible to have LE look at others and thats the big secret they have. I just don’t know but I do believe that the truth will come out at trial. Pleasde excuse the typo’s and sentences..TIA
Kleat #448
Operator Error (aka typo). I meant to type that “I am NOW a fan” – not “NOT a fan”. I was so excited to have a contribution for the blink-rink that I didn’t proof my comment. I apologize and will be more careful in the future.
Wasn’t Caylee’s doll originally Casey’s? “Mama’s doll”. Baby Caylee might have called it just “Mama”.
Dee— i was upset about the cruise too. It may not have been my business but upsetting by the fact that so many people are without jobs and struggling and the Anthonys never look worried about that part of their lives. If i didnt have a job, I would take whatever money I had and pay bills with it–not take a cruise. Everyone under stress these days would like to take a cruise even for just a weekend and get away from it all–who wouldnt. People that dont know where their next dollar is coming from dont go for a special meal at Subway but go to the store and by bread and lunch meat and MAYBE some chips and mayo. And then Cindy wonders why the press is there and is insulted—geez. So i agree with your statement. I do try to think of the Anthonys not in a bad light as people but they make it hard. I wish I could lounge in a two piece strapless bikini and sunbathe. Might be scary though if photographed!!!!!!
Vicky // October 22, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I was talking to my daughter and she provided me with the answer for who sold the picture to the Globe. – Ricardo Morales
Below is his interview with YM.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/19736123/detail.html
Brought from Marinade Dave’s site
Yes, he did sell some. Not this one, imo.
B
Blink your are amazing! I run to your site after any new release of information ! I wanted to ask what you thought about people linking casey’s comment that they haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing yet to the idea that the clothes that were found with Caylee were not on her and people saying aha! But if Casey agrees with George on what Caylee was wearing the last time he saw them -then the clothes that were found with Caylee are not the same clothes anyway. Where are the clothes she was wearing ?Thanks for all you do!!
I think that is the point, that Caylee was discovered in something different, and Casey’s clothes are acounted for.
B
Dee 1:23p:
I think the movie title is “A Few Good Men”, starring Jack Nicholson.
I could have the title wrong…but I know it was Jack!!!
I did notice that the trunk issue was dispelled here – doesn’t mean some Granny in Georgia won’t see ‘a trunk’ and do a wow. I would have picked it, from the ones I’ve seen.
Further, although I haven’t read the article but the Globe’s article, 10/21, references publishing ‘photos’ of Caylee’s black eye. I cannot believe they purchased one photo and Casey said it should be this one.
Morales sold them.
I think you’re right, Blink. Mama was found in the car seat — or at least that’s why Cindy and George said!
From what I understand Brian Burner saw Casey back into the garage on June 17th. This is the only day he saw her back in. Later in his statement I believe he changed the 18th to the 19th which was the second day that he noticed her car had been backed in although he did not see her do it. This was the day Casey borrowed the shovel.
The next day he noticed again Casey’s car was backed into the garage again he did not see her back it in, just saw that it was. So whether her phone pings correspond with those dates or not I am sorry I did not look to see. I have Mauras timeline somewhere. I would surmise that the last time she backed her car in was for cleaning. Or maybe her only attempt at cleaning the trunk was at Tony’s using those paper towels the ones that were in his garbage bag. At any rate I would say that Caylees body was placed on Surburban Drive no later that the 20th. Of course George would have also had to be at work on these dates.
If I was going to put a body on Surburban Drive, I think I would do it very early in the morning or late in the day. Since school was out probably only maintenance people coming and going to the school and meter readers. I can imagine her just standing at the tree line and pitching Caylee. I cannot imagine that she tried to bury Caylee in any way. I doubt that she would enter into those woods any more than Kronk or Cain did.
I think Casey probably tried the Back Yard day of shovel borrowing but thought better of it.
PS If Kronk didn’t have that route for the first time in August, I would be very suspicious of him seeing a woman dumping some garbage in the woods. Still haven’t decided about him.
Another favorite comment in Cindy’s depo (they just keep getting better and better!)… Linda Drane-Burdick to Jose Baez: “I have no idea what you’re talking about!” (page 504) LOL
Here’s my two cents about the Globe picture:
I think it was just one of the pics that Ricardo sold to the Globe as part of his “story”. I think the the editors just happened to pick that particular picture for the cover. Only they know the reason(s).
I personally believe in Karma…if it’s good karma, good things will come back to you. On the flip side, if it’s bad…it will always come back to bite you in the azz – bummer for you Casey.
Blink,
Yes – I think that Casey herself sold that picture for money – or that if another family member did it was with her approval.
Thanks,
Clint
Bees your exactly right i could come up with 100 names right off the bat but why? I don’t care to do so I care about justice or this child and every other child. but anger takes over and the potty mouth insues. Since one of the last message from Conway a few weeks ago the A’s have been pretty silent maybe they shut their mouths but their current actions are unspeakable, wait sorry the lovely spew of hate coming off the boat was interesting..I just want to see these folks go down hard, I feel bad about their granddaughter being taken away from them and what there exact involvement will be exposed in time IMO, for that I can’t stand them. I have spoken about my family drama on here regarding my own brother and I could care less if he rots in prison for the rest of his life for what he did, I love him but hate what he did, isn’t that how somewhat normal people respond to these kind of things? I don’t get it will never get. I am ashamed for the A’s and just when i thought Lee was starting to get it together there he is too..priceless. i want to see them all in jail right next to Casey. that is my prayer none of them deserved Caylee so many couples can’t have babies and for some unknown reasons some monsters can and could care less about them, I think about te passages I learned as child in church “Jesus loves the little children” why can’t the rest of the world, I am stickin with Jesus on that one, another one I am having a hard time with is “those without sin cast the first stone” I have been thinking about that one as well today and will try to practice that from here on out, I am still mad as all get out but am working on it. I will wait for Lady Justice to do her thing! If I fall short please forgive me!
Blink #487:
Thanks for the response. You more than deserve a break!
Have a wonderful, relaxing weekend…..snuggled up with your family.
Even though we’ll miss you….I’m sure, on a daily basis – they miss you much more!
Much thanks to you for all you do in your quest for justice. We stand beside you every step of the way.
God bless you and yours, Blink.
one more for the masses, God forgive them for they know not what they do..
some folks get offened with posting about scriptures and for you I am sorry but for me it makes me feel just a little bit better.
much love to all you wonderful folks!
Tommie…bummer for the whole dag-on bunch
westsidehudson:
# 439_wpgmouse
YOUR QUOTE:
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That t-shirt could have been a gift, maybe from Lee.”
Kleat:
“wpgmouse, Lee was shown the photograph of Caylee wearing the shirt and he did not recognize it– if he gave it to her, he would have seen the writing and the pink colour– cropped it was enough to recognize the shirt if one had seen her in it, especially if it was a gift from that person.”
westsidehudson and Kleat,
You need to look at that sentence in the context of my whole comments. “IF” the photo was taken in the A’s living room, it “MAY” have been Mother’s Day as that could be a day when all the A’s were present, giving them direct knowledge of the existence of the t-shirt. I suggested Lee only as the potential giver of this t-shirt “IF” this was a Mother’s Day gift, because I felt he would be most likely to see the “humour” in it, giving what I have interpreted to be his behavior at laughing when he is presented with the most darkest and saddest facts and images of the death of his niece. IMO, Cindy wouldn’t “advertise” with a t-shirt suggesting “something” amiss within the family and perhaps would not find the humour of the t-shirt with Caylee wearing it.
In regards to Lee’s knowldege of the wording as per his deposition, I believe he knew exactly what the wording is, and was not forthcoming.
I wrote previously in the other thread on October 16 and 19 about my take on Lee’s comments, how LindaD.B. caught him completely off guard with that photo and his “denial” remarks.
Here is a snippet:
“In C’s deposition, she is quick to point out that she doesn’t know “where” the photo was taken. I don’t recall LDB asking her that.
L reacts stammering like he’s caught off guard, offering the word “cropped” right off the bat and denying every seeing a picture of “Caylee” like “that”. I don’t recall LDB mentioning the word cropped either.
They KNOW damn well about that photo of little Caylee.”
Kleat, Lee in his deposition is also playing “dumb” when he “tries” himself to “make out” what he “thinks” might be a letter, but of course he incorrectly suggests what letter(s) he “thinks” he sees. His direct by LDB is worth another read.
The entire A family knew of the exisitence of this t-shirt long before it was found on Suburban Drive in December, however each has blatantly lied about having that knowledge.
Whether they were physically together on the day that photo was taken, such as Mother’s Day as a possible scenario, I can’t say for sure. But then suspicion can also fall on “WHEN” and “HOW” they were privy to the existence of such a photo.
There is a defense strategy in the works, and the A’s lied, supporting the strategy, the “story”.
Wow, I’m trying to catch up.
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Funny how George uses the word “borrow” to describe that, isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black type of thing?
IMO, George and Casey are two peas in a pod.
From what I remember reading–George is a cheater, he has a spotty work history, he’s possibly been into internet porn, internet scams, internet gambling (whose money was he using?) and if I recall correctly he ALSO took out a credit card in Cindy’s name. The way I see it George is lazy and he’s liar, cheater and thief! Hmmmm, sound familiar?
It’s no wonder why George had absolutely no parental authority over Casey (leaving only Cindy), can you imagine George trying to discipline Casey for something? Ha! I’d bet a box of doughnuts Casey would call him out on that the second he tried to ‘discipline’ her.
JMHO
Charolette
4. What is the significance of the lanyard?
al I figured out was that is wa never missing Cindy gave it to baez she says it in part 2 of her depo I believe so it is not missing, IMO no bomdshell he has it maybe manufactured to show she worked for him