Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Duct Tape, Father’s Day and Hopkins
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NO Detectives, I mean THE OTHER Zach Hopkins
Orlando, FL– Where did we first hear the name Zach Hopkins in the case of missing and eventually found murdered 34 month old Caylee Anthony?
He was the non-existent son of Casey Anthony’s former schoolmate, Jeffrey Hopkins. He was the non-existent grandson of Jeff’s parents who got the phone call from the Anthony home about 5 AM July 16th, and follow up from brother Lee that he did not believe his sister.
The other Zach Hopkins, who is not a toddler, is in no way affiliated with this case, is an actor.
Zach appears in this Video created for Blue Fish TV and launched June 14, 2008 in honor of FATHERS DAY.
Yes, it says what you think. A duct tape instructional releases the day before father’s day, which is the last corroberated sighting of Caylee Anthony, starring a person with the misfortune of having the same name of an alleged witness in the investigation of her disappearance/ murder.
What are the Chances?
Actually, higher than you think. The video was produced by Blue Fish TV.
Blue Fish is a production company geared toward “learning” videos with a Christian influence. By our research at blinkoncrime.com, this is a solid and best- in- class organization.
It is also an occasional past time of Disney World Resorts President, Al Weiss. Mr. Weiss is listed as an occasional speaker and author to Blue Fish TV.
Additional representation to the Orlando area include Rob Duford of the Orlando North Community Church and Isaac Hunter of Summit Church of Orlando.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a source inside bluefishtv.com has confirmed that many of their videos have been filmed at Disney and UNIVERSAL resorts, Orlando, Florida.
Before you reach for the foil hat: Blink what does this mean?
It means someone was doing hefty research on duct tape, the Hopkins name, or knew of this production or someone involved very close to the time frame Caylee went missing.
Personally, I am of the opinion between June 16th and July 15th Casey worked diligently to retro fit her story, or “google-fit” as it were.
Recall that Cindy sat in the lot of Universal on July 3rd while Casey allegedly gave her this story and proceeded to call Ryan Paysley and ask him if he knew Casey and Caylee were in town, to which he replied:
..”No, she told me Caylee was with you at the beach for the week..”
In theory then, that means the first time Cindy hears the names Jeff and Zach Hopkins are July 3rd.
Plenty of time for her to have seen this, and head back to the drawing board, and get her story down for her meeting with Detective Melich on July 15th.
Thanks to Candace Bond, contributing editor to blinkoncrime.com
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Shaking my head ,just when you thought this could not be anymore bizarre, Bang there it is! Was this done thru KC search or just we are thinking that is the Zach connection, I am lost …Help TYIA
Does anyone remember what year the A’s moved from Ohio to Florida?
I really do think that OrlandoEAST that writes on Orlando Sentinel is our dear Cynthia- on the Somer story she writes:
Parents, Grandparents – please be aware of the dangers that are out there. Florida has changed – this is not the Florida you were raised in. This place has gone to the birds since I moved here in 89. I barely recognize it anymore.
Florida has become a haven for illegal migrants, vagrants, and transients. You never know when a stranger will harm your child. The Sheriffs office does not have a handle on this crime situation which has gotten out of control.
Our county officials are only concerned with concealing Florida’s crime problem out of fear of affecting Tourist dollars. Cases are brought to quick closure without any investigation – typically the parents are accused out of convenience and to satiate the public and media – meanwhile the criminals run wild. Just today, the Orlando media reported that crime is down. My foot!
We need to take our state back from the animals.
God Bless
OrlandoEAST (10/27/2009, 8:54 PM )
I understand why you think Cindy found out on August 13th. I agree that she was devastated in the August 14th jail video. I agree with you Blink, I think this when she knew.
Blink, I am having trouble following this new update.Please forgive me. I think what you are saying is that Cindy lied during her interviews when she said Casey had told her she was dating Jeffery Hopkins and had gotten Zanny’s name from him.
You theorized: The first time she in fact heard about him was in the story Casey told her July 3rd when Cindy went looking at Universal.
I think what you are saying is that Casey was getting her story straight with the help of the internet way back on the 15th if not sooner.Casey came across this video which she incorporated into her story just like she incorporated actual events into her story of Zeniada such as the car crash Amy got into and Puerto Rico. Am I following this correctly?
Also help please, I know in one of Cindy’s interviews she says that Jesse was jealous of Casey’s friendship with Jeff. But I can’t remember if when asked about this in an interview with police Jesse says he remembers the name Jeffery Hopkins with Zachary or if he just remembers Casey talking about a guy alot with no kid mentioned.
I think Cindy both embellished and believed the Jeff Hopkins info and tried to sell it as “gospel” to LE when she knew it to be false.
How would that have helped to find Caylee?
B
Animals don’t do the shit that Casey did. So so sick of hearing baby killers called “animals.”
Same things I have said before. Is GeorGe Casey’s birth father? Is LEE her full or half brother? Has Lee been ruled out as the father? And why does everyone skirt around the fact that LEE had made sexual advances towards CaSey? And maybe George abused her that way, too and that is why he has no leverage in the family heirarchy? I just still think this reeks of some family shame.
I was looking at the items taken from the Anthony home. I noticed another shirt with wording
One pink shirt 24M ” I Get My Good Looks From My Mom”
P. 4 (3407) http://www.wftv.com/pdf/18740668/detail.html
Also, comment 52, or 52 as it is listed in order in my view now, refers to Florida being a place for transients and heralds the post I make regarding the Somer case, the opinion that nobody is “from” Florida, they go there to run from something. Hence all the freaks in Florida and all the weird murder cases there. Just an observation. Why did the anthony’s move there and why did George get fired from his law enforcement job?
Is it possible, that Kronk, like Williams, was put off, and then reported his information to someone else who might have informed the defense and the parents?
Cindy was very upset from the beginning of the August 14th jail video visit, the visit arranged when Baez was in NYC. Was Cindy upset because she learned something the day before, and is this visit date because of something that transpired on the 13th?
Is it possible that the cop went to the Anthony’s re: that report? Somehow they learned?
Is it co-incidence that the first psychic started her ‘interest’ in the case on Aug 13th? Was she brought in (says she was not). Maybe they needed to improve their psychic choices, like someone from far away, to play the role they needed.
Answering my own question- they moved to Florida in September of 89- finally got the depo to open….my puter is tired. Yeah- this person writes some really crazy stuff on the Orlando Sentinel- like she’s going to win someone over? Really? you got to love that “Cases are brought to quick closure without any investigation – typically the parents are accused out of convenience and to satiate the public and media – meanwhile the criminals run wild.” REALLY? Cause I think she’s ummm…in JAIL!!! (Hopefully you’ll be in there one day- heck I might even put $5 in your commissary account just for fun Cindy.
It seemed like Cindy knew Caylee was gone on the last visit to Casey on Aug. 14. Cindy was crying in the beginning and Casey asked why she was acting like that already. wWsn’t Caylee supposed to be returned on her B-day? So when she didn’t come home, Cindy knew Casey was a liar.
Watch it with the sound off. Universal picture of grief, imo.
B
Al Miller, ‘fact’ that Lee made sexual advances??? Why a ‘fact’? (hint– who did that originate with?) There is not way to say, based on a statement Casey made to Jesse about Lee, that this is ‘FACT’. Maybe, maybe not– Casey has been known to tell tall tales and to spin lies.
And you do have some reading to catch up on in the discovery regarding the long ago reported results of Lee’s paternity DNA test– Lee was eliminated as a possible father to Caylee LONG AGO. George abused her ‘too’?? Too, as in addition to what?? (who did this story start with… how reliable is that, at least to say this is ‘FACT’ without a lot more information).
Blink, Doesn’t this seem pretty “reaching” as far as evidence as to what Casey was formulating in her mind? I mean, what are the chances that she saw this and decided to somehow incorporate the name into her story……..especially since Jeff was supposed to have a small child named Zach? I can’t buy into it, at least as far as Casey and her mentality with creating a storyline!
Google duct tape video. Tell me what you get. No, I do not. I did not say she was formulating it in her mind, I said she was “google fitting”
B
The family ‘secret’ might be Casey herself, what Cindy and George really knew but kept close to the vest. Why did George leave after the baby was born? Maybe nothing sinister about George, maybe he was the one who saw the potential for serious problems if the daughter was to bring up baby.
Have you read George’s state depo yet? Interesting revelations, clues, to the family dynamic at that time.
George is the only family member in that nuclear family, who is NOT a blood relative to Cindy– he seems to be on the outside of something.
On the other hand, there is not a paternity result released for anyone but Lee. We have heard nothing of Ortiz yet, nor anyone else as elminated? (aside from Jesse of course)
It wouldn’t help find Caylee. It Wouldn’t even point in the right direction.
Gotcha, Blink, thanks
I haven’t quite reconciled this video with Casey’s choice of names since it appeared to me that she used a mix and match method with name choice just as she did with some phone numbers. Frankly, I had always fancied she got Zac’s name from High School Musical…LOL
I hope the levity doesn’t offend anyone. I have practically OD’ed on Casey today. I am now entering the lurk mode for my own sanity.
How kind, I get ya, good plan
B
Yes Blink– there was a point in an earlier jail video, that I was convinced that Cindy knew something, as if she heard Casey’s voice although George had the receiver, I wonder if, in those early (still investigation in high gear) visits, whether an audio link was set up for both parents to hear, while only one could speak to Casey at a time. (not sure if feedback would cause problems with that or not)
There was a point where Casey made a slip up– saying George was the best grandfather Caylee could ever have ‘had’, and at that very moment, Cindy clasped her hand to her mouth as if she caught exactly what Casey had slipped. And Casey slipped again. Not sure if George caught it, or was holding a stiff lip at that time, or if he was just busy keeping Casey talking.
Fwiw, as well as I know this case, I watched that and felt I knew everything I needed to know, and I just wanted to find her.
B
Lexi– it’s right at the top of the search:
$1.99 Downloadable Video Illustrations – Dad’s Duct Tape (Father’s …
Dad’s Duct Tape (Father’s Day) This comical video illustration shows the creative ways men might think to use duct tape and is a re …
http://www.bluefishtv.com/…Video…/Dads_Duct_Tape_Fathers_Day_ – Cached – Similar
Yes, and by the end of July, early August (according to Cindy and her reports to Sgt Allen) the Luke psychic person had made contact with Cindy, and gave her the blanket scenario, then add DC to the mix and voila, credibility appears and the idea is set in motion… maybe this was just the set up for when Cindy learned the truth, and the little plan for an indisputable ‘tip’ was ready and waiting for her to get working on as only she can do.
Blink,
Casey stated she knew Jeff Hopkins from Nickelodeon at universal. Google Nickelodeon, Jeff Hopkins…I have been very frustrated that I have never seen LE interview a Jeff or the Zach that you talked about. Granted they may not be related to this case, but we are talking about missing children. For people to say that these people are not in the “data base” or “do not exist” is False. To say that they do not know Casey is undetermined.
There is a two year time frame that is vague regarding both Casey and Caylee. Two years, since she left universal, two years that she has not worked (to our knowledge) two years of the absent father, two years since she broke up with Jesse, two years since zenieda has been baby sitting.
If it can be possible that casey could be convinced to sell those photos on the request of her attorney, who is being paid by ??? then it is not a big leap to think someone may have befriended her a long time ago and portrayed themselves as someone they were not.
As I have said before, this case does not seem to be what it appears.
Anyone know how I can get a list of tenants at sawgrass, or glenwood?
MWM-
Le has interviewed Jeff Hopkins, AND his parents. Zach, as represented by Casey, does not exist.
B
Blink, so do you think the duct tape was also part of her message to her parents? Also, what are your thoughts on whether or not Casey is a pathological liar?
CA: And Casey said, I’m not sure how she said it, but she said, I don’t want to disrupt her life. Because from here on out Caylee’s life will never be the same. And I never understood what she meant by that. And I didn’t ask her that ’cause I wasn’t sure. I said, Well, you know
SB: She knew something at this point
CA: She knew something. Well, Casey
SB: Right
CA: did know something.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224558/detail.html
P.62 Summer ’08 interview with Cindy
The beginning of this video bothered me the most, “Dad’s Uses For Duct Tape”….”Where’s Mommy?”
I agree w/Kleat #63, Casey is the Anthony family secret. These people lived with her for 22 years, they had to know how unstable she really was. I can’t even imagine all the things Casey had done before this and got away with because it was all swept under the rug! Covering for Casey must come as second nature for Cindy.
I doupt Geo,or Lee touched Casey.Just another one of her cooked up stories for Jessies attention-poor me!!! Cindy,an George knew when Car was brought home,with the smell of death in it.They knew the min..GEO.Opened that trunk,LE should have been called Johnny on the spot.AT TOW LOT!!! Their actions are deplorable.I have never seen G=parents act like these two have.Geo,was truthful in first interview,Cindy was already trying to cover.After that they went dead ahead with lies.I have got so emoitionaly involved.Shame,because attention should be on other missing children,not Casey,an her sorry parents.If Casey walks free,if other 3 Anthonys arent charges-Cindy most of all,Then the whole laws need to be rewritten-Because these people are guilty of many crimes-AN who Would believe Caseys lies on who the father is,of Caylee-line them all up test them-well run across the dad-how about the one she was crying over at the party-test him.
#71 Midwest Mom
The time frame of this period is vague because of Casey’s lies not because someone sinister was infiltrating Casey’s life. The father wasn’t absent he was never brought in. In fact if Cindy is to be believed the family drew up papers with a lawyer to ensure the father would never be present. There is no proof(to our knowledge)that there was ever a time when a Zeniada had been babysitting.
Who would have befriended Casey along time ago and what were they portraying themselves as? You make Casey seem like a naive innocent girl. IMO She was a mother, she had a fiance at one time. She held down a job for a period of time and even advanced in the position. Let’s not forget she was so schooled in the ways of finance that she could fake deposit slips and checks.ect
You wrote, “As I have said before, this case does not seem to be what it appears.” What does it appear to be to you? I am not trying to seem mean. I really want to understand your point of view. Maybe your take is the right one. Please, share. Thanks
Columbias
I had the same ans about89!
Cindy keeps stickin foot in mouth
even in listenin to sindys bro Rick he talks about cindy’s enabling and control! I’ve never seen anyone loose a kid/grandkid !!
And than act so dern bazaar!! I’m just so disgusted with their baZaar. Antics it just so so disturbing and a reproach to good parent/ grandparents imo they are all sociopaths and pathological liars!
They are helping in convincing the world of cadets guilt
my only concern is justice for caylee a Lil girl gone to soon!! The illness in that family started with Cindy and like a tumor grew in the rest !! I am so sick of the 3 !!
Poor Mallory lee has made it clear that mom and Casey come first that’s terrible
rant over
Aww I meant to say casey not cadet!!many of us have lost sleep over this but not the anthony’s and lees innap laughter
god bless u all
buenas niches
Blink mentioned that we will hear more about the sightings in the future– came across this Dr. Phil segment with Mark NeJame and Michelle Bart, where Bart talks eyewitness accounts that she finds very credible, including the sighting at the Florida Mall, as Bart says, quote:
“..and in my heart no has yet come forward when that photo has been seen nationally”.
It’s significant timing that this sighting was released by Bart Nov 19th ‘nationally’ of a photo taken November 16th.
Does anyone find this a major coincidence that Cindy’s PI and Hoover searched the woods Nov 15, 16th, and the body was not there, ‘proof’– and there is a sighting in the Florida Mall of a child that no one claims!!
Now, what family would ever come forward publicly to Bart and get their child in the middle of this– law enforcement doens’t have to report to Ms. Bart, nor send the parents of that child, to Ms. Bart for her information.
Bart seems to be as much a part of this whole ‘lie’ from from psychics to private eyes and she played one more little card to support that Caylee was in the Florida Mall while the psychic gave tips about where she would be found once killed.
Mark NeJame makes things a bit more clear on his stepping away from the situation, clients not following his advice, and needing to continue with the ‘she is alive’ theory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Wf77FyY2Q
Surely hope that LE found the child and identified her– wonder who took that very conveniently timed (well ‘perfectly timed’) cell phone photo. Perfect set up– almost too good to be true. So what was their theory– LE came to investigate, and the kidnappers learned about it, got scared and had to pay Casey back, so killed the child, and then dumped her near Casey’s home?
Good Grief.
REALLY sock video!
That is just sad!
Blink, here’s an example of the earlier video visit where Cindy CAN hear Casey as she speaks to her father– note George talks about the family analogy– he’s the thumb, mom’s the index finger because she likes to point, and Casey jokes it should be the middle finger (but does not show that gesture) and Cindy laughs/covers her mouth because she heard it.
I’m convinced that the family was set up to hear Casey in these early jail visits as LE was searching for answers, as seemed to be, the parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfD6A2roT5s
# Comment by Thinker — October 28, 2009 @ 2:53 am
Please help me find a group of photos of Caylee.
Someone on here asked for the link to these photos of Caylee in this little pink striped shirt, and someone else posted the link to a group of photos of Caylee in this shirt.
Would you please post that LINK again? And post it on the Big Trouble shirt thread please.
Thank you
http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view¤t=CayleeJPRicardohousereddrapes.jpg
http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view¤t=CayleeRicardopinkbluestripes.jpg
In the most simplistic of views:
I think Cindy and George are covering for Casey – not because she is their beloved daughter (even though that is part of it) – but because of the guilt they feel for letting things spiral this far out of control.
They knew something was wrong with Casey long ago. They knew she wasn’t a good mom. And, they turned a blind eye to it.
They simply cannot face the fact that they were negligent enough to let this happen – because that would be admiting some responsiblity for this heinous act.
So – they are covering for Casey in order to avoid facing the reality of their own neglectful part in the raising of Casey – and, ultimately, in the watchfulness of Caylee.
I just typed a long comment with a lot of thought/emotion in it, then somehow deleted it before hitting submit. Ughhh, maybe there is a reason for everything. Who knows. So I will make this short and sweet.
Since the beginning of this case I have seen 100′s, if not 1000′s of people comment on when Cindy knew Caylee was deceased. I’ve always been confused that those people, just like me, would begin their comment by saying they had followed every single aspect of this case, and then went on to say Cindy knew in June, or July, etc. I’ve always wondered if they just somehow missed the August 14th jail visitation video, because it is OBVIOUS without a doubt that within a few hours of that video is when Cindy knew for certain that Caylee was dead. I don’t know how of course, but I can say with certainty that when that video came out and I watched it….I was positive that was the day she knew. I’m not saying she didn’t begin to lie before that date, because she did. I think from the get-go she lied, because without Casey ever having told her anything, without anyone telling her anything, she just KNEW Casey well enough to know that she should begin to lie or cover-up things. I think that’s why in the beginning everything and everyone in that family seemed so incredibly insane and scatter-brained. They didn’t know why, what, when or how they should be lying…..they just KNEW that because this involved Casey that something had to be amiss and the needed to lie for her….out of instinct so to speak.
I have to admit that I’ve been somewhat lost since the last thread about the t-shirt, and this one throws me for a loop as well. BUT, the one thing I’m SURE of…. I agree with Blink about the Aug. 14th video. You can watch it without sound first, then watch it with sound. I would think there wouldn’t be a doubt in anyone’s mind after that, Cindy may very well have picked up on some clues, had her doubts and fears about things prior to that day….BUT, something happened during the hours before that visitation, and when she sat down in front of Casey…the first sentence out of Casey’s mouth, just the tone of her voice and attitude that split second confirmed for Cindy whatever she heard, found, saw, etc. prior to walking in there and visiting Casey that morning. I will say that is the one and ONLY time I ever felt like Cindy was feeling what she should be feeling, acting the way she should be acting, as far as grief for Caylee. After that, she somehow managed to suck it up and go on a tangent and begin down a path of lies that has continued to this day. Had I not already seen that Cindy was in this for Casey and herself, I’d have almost felt sorry for her that day. The problem is, that video came out long after all the “real” lying and covering up began. I almost felt sorry for George in the video where he visits Casey without Cindy. His mission that day was to find the truth. He tried everything he could to get Casey to fess up. I think there were moments in that video that how George truly felt about Caylee were evident. I’ll even go as far as to say there was a moment in there when he talked of how this was destroying Cindy, he truly felt pain for Cindy, and he wanted Casey to feel it as well, so she would tell him what exactly happened. However, after that, George was off on the tangent of lies as well. It’s all about themselves and Casey after that.
I was going to make this short and sweet. I failed miserably. I could go on and on and ramble some more, but not with anything we don’t already know or feel, so I’ll cut it off here. Just been meaning to tell people to watch the Aug. 14th video for so long, that after I saw Blink had mentioned it a couple times, it reminded me how important it is for anyone struggling with “when” did Cindy TRULY KNOW that Caylee was gone, that video will answer that question for you.
Well said Wendy- I sobbed when I watched that for the first time. It was not as though I did not already believe Caylee was long deceased and this was a revelation for me, it was the realization that the grief and love for their granddaughter was not going to come first.
To this day, next to the call I got on Dec.11, this was the hardest moment in this case for me. There are those of us that left Orlando with the feeling that we failed Caylee because we could not find her. This baby rallied THOUSANDS of people to STOP what they were doing and look for her, still does in a way. I insist that has to matter in the end. Why not to them? It’s maddening.
B
Scratching my head on this!
Yes, Shae & Kleat — Casey is the family secret. Something more will come out, I’m sure. Lee admitted to one of Casey’s friends “we all know she’s done bad things”, George was “not allowed” by Cindy to approach Casey when he found out about the “working @ Sports Authority” lie; NOBODY in that family presses her for information when they find out in the 7th month that she’s pregnant. It’s evident to me that the Anthonys are clearly frightened of either her or her reactions. There must be some deep, dark reason for their tiptoeing around her all of these years…
Prepare for more jaw drop – google Inspector Mom Zachary Hopkins –
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2123688/
Right? Kidnapping Plan. There are some familiar surnames in that cast lisitng as well, not sure if related to this case though.
Reminder everyone, the video and connection was Ms. Bond’s find. Kudos.
B
Kleat
You’re a mac, Do you know how to cut & paste from a PDF, onto text, so that it doesn’t become an attachment?
Oh, the numbers changed, whew, thanks.
Mr.Figgelman feels like a fool for the last post to Blink.
Thanks Blink
Mr. Figgelman has magic powers. lol.
B
Blink, new here. Do you think that the mounds of alleged pornography pictures of Casey that were found on the computer will come into play at all in the trial? If I remember correctly, LE shared with George that these were recovered, then I never read another thing about it.
I have NEVER heard photos of Casey referred to as porn by LE. I believe they are referring to the obvious some would consider risque.
Welcome to blinkoncrime, Mayhem.
B
Blink….Same subject as my last note
Was that thing a part of discovery and the sunshine law, or from some other source?
Discovery.
So that folks dont think we are “whispering”, WSH caught a comment that was worded in a fashion so as to appear it could have been a personal conversation appearing as a discovery item and she kindly brought it to my attention for verification, which I always appreciate.
B
Blink – very interesting story! I am pretty sure that Richard Grund has said that Casey told him the BS about Jeff and Zach at the same time that she told him about Zaniada in 2006. I am not clear on when Cindy claims to have first heard about “Jeff”. I wonder if she was “google fitting” his name to come up with further BS to snow Cindy with because she was planning on getting out of that house to stay with TonE full time. And ran into the newly posted duct tape video on the 14th or 15th. And got a idea.
What bothers me lately is this past week or so I have watched Somer’s Grandmother SOB to the point of having difficulty breathing and then watching Somer’s Mom do the same. Then we have the newest little 9 yr. old that was killed on the way home. Did anyone see who I think was the Grandmothr to this little girl last night on NG? AGAIN..SOBBING. Everytime I see these GrandMothers…oh yes Haleigh’s Grandmother Theresa Nieves…SOBBING..when I see these women crying, pleading and distraught I cry with them. Where the HELL was any of this type of emotion from CA when she at first thought Caylee was kidnapped other than the 911 call. After that we saw nothing either from her or KC..come to think of it how about the young woman missing after the Metallica concert did you see her Dad on tv…CRYING and asking for her return. What is wrong with this whole family that none of them acted even remotely close to these people I have mentioned?
Wendy
That was a great post! Way to point out that jail video on Aug. 14 and how Cindy knew Casey was a liar. Cindy and Casey made such a big deal about Caylee being returned on Caylee’s B-day. Wasn’t the the whole deal over Timer55 and Casey kept repeating this is when Caylee would be returned? Cindy was pleading in all other jail videos that Caylee needed to be home on her B-Day. When “Zanny” did not return Caylee on Aug. 9, Cindy knew she was never coming home again– and yet again, Casey lied!
Blink and ArgentinaRose……Just for the record, I don’t believe the latest bio father story Casey told Ricardo. I just wondered in any of your investigation, Blink, if you came across any info about this “alleged” friend of Lee’s……..Nope, I’m not drinking any of that Koolaid being served up on HopeSpring Drive.
And after that 3rd B-day party where Caylee didn’t come home and Cindy knew Casey had lied, she had to look at what she herself had been saying -about believing in Casey and thinking Caylee was alive. Cindy’s own brother was trying to tell her to stop and look at all the evidence- Casey was guilty and Caylee was deceased. Almost as if she got caught up in what she was hoping to believe, that Caylee was alive and Casey was innocent, that she oouldn’t admit she was wrong.
Even when it was proven to them Caylee was dead.
It does show how Casey learned this behavior.
I wanted to add something real quickly, a tad off topic, but hopefully helpful to those that were interested in the tattoo and still working on the significance of the star, or lack of.
While re-watching the George visits Casey alone video the other night, I noticed that Casey makes reference to Caylee being the top point of the star in that family. She was talking about how George made reference to them being a hand, with Caylee being a missing finger, then Casey went on to explain her theory, which was all about a star, and with her being gone, the lack of a part of the star. Something like that anyway, can’t recall the exact wording.
So for those of you that were digging and digging and trying to figure out what the missing star was all about….maybe this video will give you some insight, or maybe it has nothing to do with it. However, I always keep in mind that even tho’ according to Cindy, Casey speaks in half-truths…there is always some bit of truth in everything she says. So, I’ll leave the link and the exact point in the video where she talks about it, that way it’s easy to find and might help those of you short on time be able to watch it real quick.
It’s the August 3rd visitation video, Part 1 of 2. The video of George visiting Casey without Cindy with him. She talks about this beginning around 22:50 minutes, but hits on the star convo at just about 23:00=23:30′ish minutes. Probably best to start around 22:50, just so you can get the gest of what they are speaking about. gest/jist? (sp)? Never sure which one..ha. Oh well, you get the gest/jist. Pfffttt.
Here is the link, hope it works.
http://www.wftv.com/video/18206395/index.html
Wendy-
I strongly agree with you, thank you for making this very easy for readers to access quickly.
B
I have to wonder if Cindy and/or George didn’t get wind of the inital call that Kronk made on August 13th…and went – or sent someone – to search the area themselves – and made the horrible discovery.
The timing of Kronk’s call and their apparent grief seem to go hand in hand.
The concept that Kronk was at the end of the street 3 times in 3 days, whereby on at least one occasion, 2 deputies responded, nobody will ever convince me that did not get back to them. According to Keith Williams, he was out there on the 5th of August.
I think it was simply the “knowing” versus the “finding” and once Casey was out on bond, there was no incentive.
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TY Blink for answering my post. Yes, I remember that video and the jail visit..just didn’t connect in my tired mind last night.
I still want to see the following from LE and hope they are in future doc drops: plant terpenes analysis, maggot milkshake analysis, and last but not least the Mark Hawkins interview as well as his Mom’s.
This video is a great find. I believe that Cindy and Casey use what they have at hand and have seen in the recent past (I am not sure either has much of a long term memory) to invent their lies, but part of THESE LIES always have contained that ounce of truth. It was a wicked game Casey was leading everyone on with her clues and half truths, and Cindy seemed to relish in that game too. Game over.
DD- I agree that the Dr. Haskell is critical to the prosecution of this case. In Jose’s own words, he is the ARod of his field. I will be surprised if that information is released prior to trial though.
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