Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Duct Tape, Father’s Day and Hopkins
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NO Detectives, I mean THE OTHER Zach Hopkins
Orlando, FL– Where did we first hear the name Zach Hopkins in the case of missing and eventually found murdered 34 month old Caylee Anthony?
He was the non-existent son of Casey Anthony’s former schoolmate, Jeffrey Hopkins. He was the non-existent grandson of Jeff’s parents who got the phone call from the Anthony home about 5 AM July 16th, and follow up from brother Lee that he did not believe his sister.
The other Zach Hopkins, who is not a toddler, is in no way affiliated with this case, is an actor.
Zach appears in this Video created for Blue Fish TV and launched June 14, 2008 in honor of FATHERS DAY.
Yes, it says what you think. A duct tape instructional releases the day before father’s day, which is the last corroberated sighting of Caylee Anthony, starring a person with the misfortune of having the same name of an alleged witness in the investigation of her disappearance/ murder.
What are the Chances?
Actually, higher than you think. The video was produced by Blue Fish TV.
Blue Fish is a production company geared toward “learning” videos with a Christian influence. By our research at blinkoncrime.com, this is a solid and best- in- class organization.
It is also an occasional past time of Disney World Resorts President, Al Weiss. Mr. Weiss is listed as an occasional speaker and author to Blue Fish TV.
Additional representation to the Orlando area include Rob Duford of the Orlando North Community Church and Isaac Hunter of Summit Church of Orlando.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a source inside bluefishtv.com has confirmed that many of their videos have been filmed at Disney and UNIVERSAL resorts, Orlando, Florida.
Before you reach for the foil hat: Blink what does this mean?
It means someone was doing hefty research on duct tape, the Hopkins name, or knew of this production or someone involved very close to the time frame Caylee went missing.
Personally, I am of the opinion between June 16th and July 15th Casey worked diligently to retro fit her story, or “google-fit” as it were.
Recall that Cindy sat in the lot of Universal on July 3rd while Casey allegedly gave her this story and proceeded to call Ryan Paysley and ask him if he knew Casey and Caylee were in town, to which he replied:
..”No, she told me Caylee was with you at the beach for the week..”
In theory then, that means the first time Cindy hears the names Jeff and Zach Hopkins are July 3rd.
Plenty of time for her to have seen this, and head back to the drawing board, and get her story down for her meeting with Detective Melich on July 15th.
Thanks to Candace Bond, contributing editor to blinkoncrime.com
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#296 boz
Krunk was fired because of a workman’s comp. issue involving a shoulder or neck injury.
Shelly… great post…
It’s so true that the real damage has been done by putting a story out there by our (the public’s) early acceptance of Cindy’s statements as ‘true facts’ , albeit sometimes ‘through rose coloured glasses’ as SB put it to George.
What Cindy was able to put out into the world of ‘FACT’ in this case, was accepted by the public as ‘how it was’ and if not quite the whole truth, just affected by a grieving grandparent in denial. This is more public perception, jury pool poisioning/affecting, than all this other media ‘hype’ of bloggers giving their ‘guilty’ rants and opinions. Cindy’s versions are well engrained now, and accepted– it’s fact because a Grandmother said it, believed it, was in denial, the only excuse for it not being true.
The decision to move the trial outside Orlando should also consider these ‘facts’ by Cindy to authorities as a major consideration of impact on any jury. (Cindy’s media tours and spin, aside)
# 253-#278 eeemeatthebeach, Reinin, sosad, Lori, Wendy!
You guys are too much. Many thanks! Will look at the video and pics when duty stops calling, here!
I am so glad to have the date on this presser and the links! If this was after D. Casey went snooping, no wonder Cindy’s drugged and despairing. So what did DC see out there? Did he bring something of Caylee’s from the dump site back home to Cindy?
suz, it’s not George’s rose coloured glasse, he has since those early days, got himself a whole full brand new set of 101 colours, including fluorescents and irridescents to play with just for embellishing and even some drawing-in of his pictures to the state (kids set, washable and non-permanent of course) — (btw, was he, homicide investigator etc, colourblind like his son Lee????– great– think that would be a slight impairment for a homicide investigator ‘truly’)
ada, bet that story will get spun into a whole new overcoat soon.
maggie #262
I also could not picture Casey breastfeeding. It can be painful at first, and Casey being young, I thought her body image would play a big part in that decision.I think once breastfed the appearance of the breast changes. Maybe she only used a pump so she and Cindy could take turns feeding Caylee. Thanks for bringing up this topic.
Third Q for Michelle Bart:
Ms. Bart, WHO took that photograph? (and if you answer this, I have a few more to add to those Blink will ask you!!– like specs on the cell phone’s camera including resolution, how far away was the child from the photographer, why didn’t the photographer take a wide angle shot too, pretend like he/she was just looking up a phone number to make a call, and shooting a whole set of ‘the scene/crowd’, in particular, adults eating at tables, or adults watching over this child, and “IF” the child was alone, was she Caylee abandoned in a crowd, to be found by a good sam or mall security and returned home? IF it was Caylee, did the person wait around until the child was taken by the hand, or otherwise drawn away from ‘playtime’? Did the person alert mall security or vendors to call mall security? Did the person enlist anyone else’s help to follow the child from the mall with whomever, if anyone, so that the adults would not be aware?
Basic common sense… and has anyone taken a measurement for height of a child against that playset? Simple– how tall was that little girl? What about fingerprints– simple– call mall security, if need be, items the child touched could be protected.
IF the child had not yet eaten and did share a meal with someone, then what did the adult do with the cup the child drank from, or the straw? Wouldn’t be hard to gather the bin contents in time to save evidence– again, Mall Security could easily do that upon seeing the photo on the phone and making the call to the FBI.
Geeze– if this was real, this was a threat/kidnap situation as said in the media over and over, then who was it that snapped a photo and walked away?
Kleat
Right again. I can feel the spin on Roy Krunk starting already. I haven’t been over to the new thread to see it spin. Did you remember that George “minored” in art? If he were color blind, that would be quite the accomplishment!
AND finally, WHERE is the written report with attached photographs, from PI Dominic Casey? (oh yeah, he didn’t give the Anthony’s written reports, according to Cindy and George. I’m not even going to ask if this tip fit into Dominic Casey’s evaluation protocol regarding which tips would be deemed credible, which ones to follow up on, which ones to give to LE– cause we know how Dominic Casey responded to that in his Jan 7th interview– he didn’t even understand the question as repeated and explained by real investigators– JA included IIRC)
oh yeah… I recall that. But, I suppose colour blindness would be limiting, but then would depend on what the focus of the art degree would be– if he wanted a career in commercial art, you bet it would be a problem, but other areas, maybe not so much. He could become an Ansel Adams, or work with limited pallets (sorry, bad pun… ), now what were the trends when he would have been taking university courses. My guess is he was a traditionalist of sorts– especially given his major.
George’s ability to discern colours, just limited in greens/blues or more, and how he names them, is important– he has been describing the outfit Caylee was wearing– with one little slip in his depo, calling the shirt black–err quickly changed to pink. (easy to make a nervous slip, can’t really mix up ‘black’ and ‘pink’ even if colourblind– one has white in it, the other not)
#298 Shelly: You mentioned George’s interview with LE that was supposed to be kept quiet from his family. Can you imagine what it was like for him to live in the same house with Cindy after she found out he’d spilled his guts to LE? She must have been so pissed at him. But of course they probably were on camera the following week holding hands as the loving parents/grandparents. blech….
Ada, 301(for now). Kronk was fired for not attending a pre-determination meeting.
And Michelle Bart, to your knowledge, did that photographer try to claim any reward– by November, there was a healthy pot of gold for tips that led to Caylee’s safe return. Doesn’t say much for the photographer, if an innocent tipster, to first, not try to save the child (clearly must assume in imminent danger as kidnapped, if not, surely needs to be recovered immediately to her own family), then did the tipster make mention to anyone, about the reward? If just a good sam, then why stop after the photo was taken.
Yeah– we know, there will always be an ‘explanation for everything at trial’.
ChicagoJudy, but maybe that was fine with Cindy, ( after she calmed down!!) because it led the public, and LE possibly, to accept what George was saying as someone speaking only from the heart and not a plan. It led us, (public, the media too) to believe George just had his head in the sand, he was the only one who was NOT lying– that could work in Cindy’s favour, putting George in the ‘undercover’ position.
http://www.wftv.com/news/21461439/detail.html
his link offers all the requested video links
298_Shelly_”The hair bleaching….you know that stuff they use to bleach your hair down to white and then put color on it? The defense seemed awfully interested in pinning down that Cindy did have that on hand.”
Shelly, was it the defense or prosecution? (maybe both?) I thought it was the state, in the depo, but not sure. I think the defense was trying to throw out that bleached hair can mimic the death band on , in an interview on TV? But then someone also mentioned fringe hair in evidence, so I wondered if all the hair cutting in the garage would somehow be tied to the crime scene? OR characteristics of processed hair would eliminate the possibility of the death band hair being from Cindy? Okay, confused, here.
#299_Kleat & then # 307
Great questions. Does Michele Bart read or post here?
# 307_ Was that person ever interviewed at any time by police? I don’t believe, as you’ve said that the photographer has been identified, at least publically. Also wasn’t there a fairly significant lapse of time from the alleged creation of the photo until it was published on TV?
I seem to remember thinking that there was a delay, thereby rendering it almost impossible to adequately investigate anyway. You know, kind of in the same sense that Casey was giving detectives crap because they didn’t put out an amber alert after 32 days? I know it wasn’t that length of time, but it was a while after the photo was taken that it was shown.
# 310_ Kleat
I thought Lee was color blind? Long day…maybe I’m not remembering correctly.
#295 Kleat
“The termination of Mr. Kronk relates to a difference of opinion between Mr. Kronk and Orange County regarding a workplace injury sustained by Mr. Kronk in the course of his job duties at an Orange County Utilities warehouse. This dispute arose because Mr. Kronk’s management directed him to resume work duties after his injury, and Mr. Kronk and his health care providers did not consider it to be safe or medically appropriate to resume those duties at this time.
“Mr. Kronk is evaluating his legal options relating to his termination. In the meantime, Mr. Kronk is volunteering his time to a veteran’s group in Osceola County–he is providing counseling to military veterans to help ease their adjustment to civilian life.”
“It is my understanding that Mr. Kronk injured his neck and shoulder while lifting and placing boxes in an Orange County Utilities warehouse,” Kronk’s attorney also told Eyewitness News.
Casey Anthony is in the Orange County jail accused of murdering her daughter Caylee Marie Anthony.
http://www.wftv.com/news/21464889/detail.html
- Sounds like another lawsuit or workmans comp
Hi suz: my wanting to read George’s book is only if he makes the Great Escape from Cindy. So much of what he is saying now is such an obvious invention and lie that I wonder he can go out in public. I guess it will be a question of money: will they continue to rake in the bucks, the boats and the vacations after Casey is convicted? Still, I look at his words and feel the pain he feels for lying. He knows he is doing wrong. Of course, he may not survive the trial, that color of his and the temper tantrums put him in line for a stroke or heart attack.
Kleat: very funny and accurate about Michelle Bart. You’da thunk if they were going to cook up a Caylee sighting they would have done a little more work to make it realistic. They were only playing for the crowd: LE could have come back on them if they made the sighting seem real. George and CIndy have to be seen as well-meaning liars for Team Casey, not masterminds of criminal obstruction.
Kleat #309
You wrote:( cause we know how Dominic Casey responded to that in his Jan 7th interview– he didn’t even understand the question as repeated and explained by real investigators– JA included IIRC)
This was infuriating to me. Besides the ability to lie and coddle Cindy this man is so inept.IMO
Do you think he will succeed in not giving his deposition in November?
BLINK IS YELLING
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DCASEY WILL GIVE A DEPOSITION AND HIS BS PRIVLEGE WORK PRODUCT WILL NOT COME WITH WITH HIM.
TAKE BETS.
B
Yep– Post 80 on the last thread:
“Comment by Kleat — October 28, 2009 @ 1:58 am
… hope that LE found the child and identified her– wonder who took that very conveniently timed (well ‘perfectly timed’) cell phone photo. Perfect set up– almost too good to be true. …”
As FORMALIZED in my question to Ms. Bart: Who took that photograph?
Respectfully awaiting a response.
#255 Celeste B., Very insightful post. I have to agree something caused her to ‘snap’ go into her own make believe world. Brings to mind the movie ‘Sybil’ a girl was so abused, her world was so horrific, she created different personalities to be able to escape her tormented life. She couldn’t escape physically so she escaped mentally. It sure makes us wonder, just what is the ‘family secret?’ why is G. so disrespected in this family? Often when a child is sexually abused and they go to their parent, they are not believed particularly when the perpetrator is a family member. It is too painful to except that your own brother, husband, etc. would do something like this so it is hushed and easier for the parent to believe the child is malingering.
3 307 Kleat (quote) “Geeze– if this was real, this was a threat/kidnap situation as said in the media over and over, then who was it that snapped a photo and walked away?”
AMEN, Kleat! All those questions you are asking about this Florida Mall photo should have been investigated to the umpteeth degree if there was any truth to Michelle Bart’s PR campaign. Where does her conscience sleep nights?
I am so glad the “sightings” topic is coming up, again. The Florida Mall pics have bothered me for a long time because the whole thing just went nowhere. Red herrings are an important part of this case in so many ways.
Gee, a little girl who goes missing and is on the cover many times of every US tabloid and semi-tabloid (like “People”) a number of times and the subject of great world-wide Internet interest. Nevertheless, she is photographed out with her probable kidnapper in plain site at a mall having a blast on the tot toys. Unless, she was in the habit of taking cabs to shopping centers by herself. Oh, yeah.
And while we are at it, the famous little tyle is out and about in different situations in airports and restaurants all around the US… in GA, Texas, and California to name just a few locales of interest. This kidnapper is enjoying her sweet litle ill-gotten gain and has no fear of discovery! Well, Cindy did tell Larry King (paraphrasing) “Well, we think she has been taken by this…er… Zenaida..and that she wanted this child, loved this child.”
Funny, the child turns up rotting in a swamp after being so enjoyed and indulged by said loving kidnapper. Another case of an adoptive, Mommie Dearest, I guess.
#308 Depends on the degree of colour blindness. Red/green is the most common in males and comes from the mother’s side (skipping a generation). I don’t think limitiations like these are reasons to doubt one’s gifts. I am no fan of George’s, but a minor in art isn’t that far fethced. For example:
Albert Einstein had a learning disability and rose above his limitations to become a successful mathematician. George Washington and Alexander Graham Bell also had learning disabilities.
Ludwig van Beethoven was deaf.
Helen Keller is my biggest inspiration who redefined communication on almost every level.
I do not mean to be condescending or rude. I just want to gently point out that it is more than possible to overcome these kinds of challenges, if your heart desires. How would we ever know what we are capable of if we didn’t rise after falling, over and over again?
Love and light to all~
306…Momof3!! (((HUGS)))
I completely agree. Breast feeding is a deep bonding experience and not always for every mother. Some of my friends chose not to nurse but not for a lack of loving or not wanting to bond with their babies! In Casey’s case, I would say it had everything to do with the inability and lack of desire to bond with her baby girl. Her materinal instincts were completely MIA. She faked it…raising Caylee. I believe she put on a show (appearing as a devoted mom) because she had no choice really. Mutha of the year is right! (Rick Plesea’s quote). She had everyone fooled. Besides, Casey has ALWAYS been on the social scene on one level or another. Leaving her child while she gallavanted around the clock would not be condusive to a mother who’s nursing a child, especially nursing on demand. THAT is not Casey’s style.
#320
Thanks for the response Blink. Glad to know you think he will give the deposition. I wonder if any truth will come from it. D Casey has given so many variations of who he was working for and when. Do you think he will be the one that will have charges brought against him?
Ps I would never be foolish enough to bet against you. You hold your cards too close.LOL
#325 Ragdoll, Thanks for the information on color blindness. Quite interesting.
About the breastfeeding-I think since at this time Cindy would have believed Casey was still working. It would have been more practical for Casey to use a pump and bottle feed. Especially with her “work” schedule at this time and Lauren and Jesse babysitting. This wouldn’t have raised any red flags with Cindy about the lack of actual breastfeeding/bonding time. This is all just speculation of course.
I am sure there are mothers through out history who have breastfed their babies only to murder them.
#316 WSH my bad….the bleach product used on hair was from the prosecution as was all the other questions. Sorry for confusing you, typed while trying to multitask and did not proofread!
Thanks for catching that! All the defense has in the way of evidence is a mountain to climb to try to get these people out of one lie on top of another….all 4 of them!
Oh Ragdoll, I am so sorry. I was being flippant about Lee being colored blind and wondered if George was. I wondered about him minoring in art. I apologize for suggesting that any physical challenge is the subject of my (according to my late mother) perverted sense of humor.
WOW I just watched the Michelle Bart interview with the interview of GA & CA. Cindy was definatly drugged. She did not say one word. There you go. That is proof she was drugged. Maybe the reason they have not seen Casey is that they don’t want to. They will support her in public but I do not think they can actually face her.
Saying that people should call THEM and not OCSO becuase the OCSO is not doing anything. That’s awful. Saying KidFinders HELPS. Oh, these poor people are delusional.
Also, GA has completely depersonalized Caylee. He only says “my granddaughter” Never Caylee. The same thing that Casye did. Casey never referred to Caylee by her name, always “that little girl” etc.
This whole thing is not just a chapter in a psych book, its a whole book. How sad.
Kleat #321 Thanks
Uh-huh, I kind of thought so.
#329…sorry Ada, I never meant to pick on you! I swear. George doesn’t seem like the brightest crayon in the package and I get what you were saying. I recognize your awesome wit and contribution to the site! Much love <3
#327. True Momof3 and well said! I guess anything is possible…nursing doesn’t always equate to mother of the year. I just have troubles reconciling Casey even wanted to ‘pump’. That would still hinge on her extra curricular activities. When you nurse/pump, you need to be consistent with how often. For me, it was every 4 hours. I guess I just don’t wanna give this ‘woman’ (I use the term loosely) any credit.
You have given me more to consider =). Thank you sista friend xo
‘thinking’ Momof3…you think Casey would pump along with bottle feeding? I can’t see Casey wanting to even make THAT kind of effort. I’m interested in your perspective =)
Ragdoll, I am honored that you asked for my personal opinion.
Going on my personal feelings only, I don’t believe Casey would have breastfed/pumped unless she was forced to by Cindy. Either by quilt or money issues. Formula is expensive. The only reason I believe Casey would have chosen breastfeeding, on her own, would be to claim Caylee as hers.
In my personal experience most young mothers, teens more so, do not breast feed. Not because of their unwillingness to bond with their child. One, it seems strange to them. Two, it isn’t comfortable. You have to deal with soreness,(at first)and leaking. Three, it restricts them from becoming themselves again, meaning, they want to get back to the way they were before, mind and body. This is especially true if it was a hidden prenancy/unwanted pregnancy. Four, they cannot diet when they are breastfeeding. They feel like they have been restricted enough during the nine months. Fifth, breastfeeding ties them to the baby, even with pumping. They are the sole provider of nurishment.
Knowing these things, I believe IF Casey nursed Caylee, it was because Cindy made it so. I imagine being a nurse Cindy would have pushed it. If Cindy breastfed Casey she would expect the same. I agree that another factor would have been to claim motherhood over Cindy. Breastfeeding is after all, something only a mother could do.
These are not the right reasons to breastfeed. These reasons lead to resentment, not love or a nuturing bond. Have you ever seen the movie For Keeps? This IMO is an acurate portrayal of what many young mothers go through. Most grow to love their babies more each day. Perhaps, Casey only grew to resent hers more.
pleez lol
I dont think and cant see casey as the nurturing breast feeding kind. she cared less about bonding breast feeding with caylee sindy is so full of herself!
I dont even buy it your kidding right yuck I dont see it and wont be convinced of it!
as sexual as she is not to be gross I dont see her sharing that part in a mothering way. nope. I am not going to get graphic but you get the pic of how she was.
First time to post here- hello everyone.
I follow the case and will continue to do so until it is resolved in some fashion. For now, I can say that in my opinion, January cannot come fast enough when the wheels of justice start to roll on some of Casey’s “lesser” crimes.
I don’t hate Casey. What amazes me is that she still thinks she can get away with this! And this is something else… I do not see her as having a notably different psycho or sociopathic prfile than many of the kids I see or work with. Morality is just a relative term to many of them. Casey lied so much in her teenage years that she believed and believes her own lies.
So I signed on to say something about breastfeeding. I breastfed my two children and it IS a bonding experience, but it is also of great value to the mother as it really helps you shed weight and get back in shape- and no, it doesn’t really wreck your breasts if you’re small (as Casey was) to start with. It’s easier than bottlefeeding as you don’t have to sterilize anything or check temps or mix formula.
Also, Cindy may have pushed the health aspect of breastfeeding with Casey… so Casey may have done it not to be hasseled… OR may have pretended to do it later on so that Cindy would not bother her. On Casey’s part, it may have been a justification as to why she really didn’t need to look for a paying job- she could have thrown that back in Cindy’s face later as an excuse for lying about her fictitious job at Universal.
With no sympathy for Casey at all- I remember those days with toddlers and infants. A lot of us do. Lots of crying days and changes in identity and fights with our dying egos. To be a parent is to die to yourself in some ways… and to be reborn a better person. I don’t think Casey made it over the hump. Confession… there were times that I thought I was losing it with my little ones, but I always took time out when it got bad… had a cup of coffee… called a friend… put on a favorite LP (you know what I’m saying:-)
I let them have their tantrum and then sleep- good training for teenagerhood. 23 years later, we are none the worse for those boundaries.
There is something inherently unhealthy in the way we promote children to royalty in our homes. If Casey was the Princess and lost that place to Caylee, whose fault was that? Would Caylee have benefitted from that mentality? I don’t think so… nor do I think George and Cindy could have afforded that. My own Mother raised my sister’s child who has turned out to be a mess. Very similar dynamics- very codependent.
The video? There are so many little intricacies that may or may not be connected in this situation (the IKEA paradox). I do believe that Casey LIVED on the internet and that she may have seen this video, and that it may have influenced her cover story. I do think she was weaving her own little fiction for a month, but I certainly do not think she is smart. If she was smart, she would have faked her OWN kidnapping and shlepped herself up to Canada where its hard to get extradited for murder. She’s not smart- but she’s scared.
As she ought to be.
Welcome and thank you for your insight.
Can I ask all those who read your comment for one thing? I have a concern about continuing the gaphics and specifics of nursing vs. the general dialog as it relates to Casey/Caylee.
Personally, I feel this is such an intimate issue between a mother and her child/children it is sacrosant, does that make sense?
B
Hi Chica, I hope you are feeling well.
Ragdoll and I were debating whether or not Cindy saying Casey breastfed was true or just another lie.
Thanks for weighing in with your opinion! I agree with your post. Casey using her breasts only for sexual attraction/gratification is also a very good point. One that I might add, is held by many new moms.
Oops sorry Blink, I posted my last comment before your asking to refrain from discussing it further. Please,if you feel it is appropriate just delete it thanks.
Thank you Blink-
I understand your concern about the nature of the discussion of breastfeeding as it pertains to our culture. I teach anthropology as an adjunct and it is always amazing to me (based on my students’ reactions to the childrearing chapter lesson) how much we are out of touch with what our bodies are designed to do. It (breastfeeding) is foremost- a practical effort, and not too far in our past, a necessary effort to keep our children alive. In our recent past, only the elite could afford a nursemaid and there was no such thing as a baby bottle. It’s only in “developed” societies now, where women’s breasts are sexualized, that anyone is shocked by the breast having any other function.
It’s probably fair to say though, that breastfeeding does not necessarily make a good mother out of a woman. I don’t know for sure, but Andrea Yates who was convicted of drowning her children in a neighborhood near my home, was very much into fulfilling traditional female roles.
O I could not agree with you more, I was an older first time mom, so perhaps it was an easier choice for me, and as I write this, I am not sure I understand my own need for privacy on the issue, except that when it comes to my children, it is just my first nature. Occu Hazard I guess., or it is the only thing that will only be mine and theirs alone. Everything else is shared with Dad and the Universe. I guess I equate it in a way, with when they were in the “mommy house” as I explained to our daughter as her brother was “cooking”.
BB
Comment by Momof3
your so welcome I am glad that I dont share these feelings on my own. I read yours and ragdolls comments also and agree with your feelings in other words I validate them as also feelings we share in common. Sad for little caylee. hopefully someday justice will prevail for her. Its an honor to share with eachother our frustrations questions and sometimes insight.
Still hoping someone has an opinion on whether or not the A’s will profit from Steven Soderbergh’s new play “Tot Mom”. We’ve not heard anything from them or their posse on this issue which makes me think they may be getting some $$$ for this. Has anyone heard anything?
#338….and logically speaking, Momof3 is right. Cindy probably DID have a say in that, being a nurse and all (and of course, being Cindy and all). Makes sense Mom! Good morning y’all~~
#342. I haven’t heard anything and did try to google the info. Would the play being produced in another country/continent entitle them to royalities ( I don’t know the proper terms, my bad)? Good question Chicago.
Blink, nursing is a ‘personal’ choice and one’s reason to talk or not about their experience is their choice. I believe most on here respect your need for privacy and keeping it personal. In Canada, we are more liberal about nursing and celebrate as being ‘nature’. It’s not meant to be hidden or kept behind closed doors. I’m proud of my country for maintaining a rational perspective on this issue. That being said, I won’t bring it up again since I do respect that this is your site. Lastly, I’d like to say it is relevant to Casey as it does bring into light her maternal instincts or lack of. Personally, I’m hurt and feel that because some of our opinions are not similiar to yours, some of us are being outted as talking inappropriately.
Whatever. It’s done.
Ragdoll-
That was certainly not my intent therefore I apologize. It is relative to Casey’s mothering to an extent, yes. I was more referring to not wanting to create a sort of Le Leche League thread (sp). In no way did I say anything that was said was inapropriate, I just felt it moving off-topic to the relevant issue. Was not personal to anyone and if that is how it was taken, again my apologies.
B
Finally finished slogging through Cindy’s deposition with Ms Burdick. I was struck by how many, many times Cindy refers to Casey as “my child.” “I would never yell at my child.” “She is my child…” It seems Cindy does not see Casey as an adult; all the more reason to cover for her.
I have four grown children. I have not referred to any of them as a child for many, many years (not even when they were in their early twenties).
In the earlier parts of the depo, Cindy consistently maintains that Casey, and not herself, did most of the work when it came to Caylee. Casey also usually bought her clothes, etc. Casey was such an attentive mother, yadda yadda yadda. But it’s not long before Cindy inadvertently reveals, in the midst of answering other questions, that it was CINDY who usually put Caylee to bed, who bought most of the clothing, toys, etc. This occurs throughout the deposition.
Obviously, Cindy did not realize how easily she deviated from the “Casey is the best mother in the world” mantra. I imagine that the SA will note these little discrepancies in her testimony.
Re my earlier question, I got my answer from Hal B. Soderbergh’s using all material that’s public record. So no one gets paid for anything.
As far as Lee maintaining that Cindy and Casey come before his long-time girlfriend Mallory: I find that very creepy. I also can’t help but wonder about Mallory. What would you say when the man you’re in a serious relationship with says that Mommy and Sis come before you? I know what I would say, but I can’t write that here. Blink would hurt me.
lol marcy
I needed a chuckle amongst all this sadness over caylees death and her mother/grandparent/uncle actions.
yeah I dont know how a woman can allow herself to be last on the totem pole. sometimes insecurity alllows us to remain in a dysfunctional relationship. I speak frome xperience hopefuly she will see the light someday and break away.
p,s marcy
that is plain weird