Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: New Discovery Released
Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office is set to release 1000 additional pages of discovery this morning of previously unseen evidence in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.
Sources within the SA’s office speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com say the new information is largely FBI reports.
The release comes on the heels of new motions filed by the defense this week.
Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon, defense counsel for Casey Anthony filed a motion alleging double jeopardy violation in the upcoming fraud case, a reply to the states motion to preclude death procedures and yet another motion to dismiss. A hearing date has not yet been set by Judge Strickland’s office.
blinkoncrime.com will be posting the latest round of discovery as soon as it becomes available. Please check back for updates.
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ddderma, the trash bags were inside of the laundry bag.
Blink, I hope it is ok to post this link on here. It is a document that is from Dominic Casey saying what Baez told him to do if he found Caylee alive or deceased. It is an interesting read. If not ok then don’t post.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/11239565
It’s overwhelming to think of caylee looking like this. It takes one sick mind to be able to handle this! a bag leaking with fluids and this look as you describe sherri unfathomable how can a mom do this how can she not gag and freak out since she apparently freaked over other things like tony not coming back from new york unbelievable. I just cant wrap my brain around this I have a hard time seeing this visualizing this. I couldnt do it!! I just hope caylee gets justice that I can wrap my brain around yupp!!
so I hear that dominic casey and mallory will both be deposed. wonder if cindy is drilling mallory on what to say and what not to say. Mallory hopefuly will remember that as far as lee is concerned is is number five on the family scale definetely not a 10 in cindys eyes.
Here’s a link to Riccardo’s interview on 7/25/08. He wasn’t asked, at that time, about chloroform. so we can mark that one off the list.
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Morales,%20Ricardo0725.pdf
~~Blink: KWIM means “Know What I Mean.” e.g., “She said she was 30-years-old but she acted 18, if you KWIM.”~~
Blink, WORD has always got your back, if you KWIM.
True dat and ty.
B
Legal Analyst Richard Hornsby says defense should change tactics and argue for accidental death. Has he been reading Ms. Blink over the past months??
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wesh-analyst-sees-chloroform-as-smoking-gun.html
Quoting WESH’s TV Guy:
‘Reporter Bob Kealing turned to Orlando defense attorney Richard Hornsby for analysis about the evidence. Hornsby focused on a syringe, with traces of chloroform, found near Caylee’s remains and on coffin flies found in Anthony’s car.
“I now understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty,” Hornsby said. “You have the premeditation filled in. You have the cause of death filled in.”
He described the chloroform as “the smoking gun, it’s the nail in the coffin” and the duct tape found on Caylee’s remains as the impetus for imposition of the death penalty.
Hornsby said the state has a solid case and the defense needs to change its strategy. His suggestion: Argue that Caylee’s death was unintentional and put Casey on the stand.’
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Lol, now there’s a novel idea. Somebody messenger a flashlight to their tunnel.
B
accidental chloroform overdose?? No such thing! Period– IMHO. Can Casey explain?
What did the FBI learn from Ricardo Morales? What does Ricardo know about Casey’s ‘involvement in stuff’?
Even ‘Scarface’ would not stomach killing a small child, even when it risked his own downfall and would cause his own demise.
wow where’s everyone? I know blink is taking care of her little blinkettes but everyone else is incognito.
I don’t know what to make of the styringe. I would say “Ignore it” but there’s so many threads of evidence going back to cloroform … I would say as a normal person … it’s rather dangerous and unusual chemical. There’s an awefull lot of coincidental mention of that normally rare chemical in this case. Everywhere ya look … like breadcrumbs leading all the way back home. Betcha it leads all the way to that bloody gingerbread house on Hopespring Dr.
Obviously the testosterone compounds found in the needle are steroids … does anyone think that Casey many have been experimenting with steroids?
Ok, just here me out … young women and teens abuse steroids to lose weight and tone muscles (the easy way) … what made me wonder was the condition of Casey’s back and why LE photographed her lower back and bacne … hormonal changes can cause acne, like starting/stopping birth control or starting/stopping steroids … also her weight gain that seem to start right away once she was in jail …
People have talked about her prison diet, snacks etc but she didn’t strike me as having a healthy diet before prison and she also didn’t seem to work out regularly (aside from pole dancing, both kinds!)
I know LE wanted a closer picture of her tatt, but why the lower back? I recall something about Baez complaining about KC having a problem with her waist chains or something when he was trying to get KC some more exceptions to the jail rules .. maybe they photographed it to show it wasn’t anything the jail was doing that caused the back problem …
OK, that’s it … now you can bash me!
Quality of diet, quality of ‘snacks’, lack of sunlight, fresh air, sleeping for hours, laying on bed for hours– that can also affect skin condition– not based on expertise, just some common sense factors added in.
‘Gingerbread house’– gotta think about agreeing on that one, Fred Mc!
Geeze, sorry, pressed for focus today, I owe Fred a blink biscuit on the “bloody” gingerbread house comment, glib yes, but very illustrative.
Kleat, I owe you especially, a revisit: you have a grasp in provoking the loose ends in this case like no other, imo.
Thank you for your contributions.
B
wouldn’t be all that hard to get a sample of Caylee’s urine– not saying that’s so, just that couldn’t be so hard, if premeditated, but urine makes NO sense except to point blame to someone, a perp would NOT be so stupid as to plant evidence on themselves when they could as easily dump it almost anywhere, rinse the container and toss it just about anywhere ‘else’. It’s like FAR too much work to shift blame… anywhere but the obvious.
WESH has also updated (tonight) their regular article with the legal analyst comments:
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
I think that the one attorney who has been doing her job for ‘Casey’, and who will be Casey’s ‘saviour’ from the DP is only one person, and that’s Andrea Lyon. Toddy Macs role is over– he doesn’t do anything to understand his client, but Andrea Lyon showed that she is working ‘with’ Casey to understand Casey. That horrid seafoam outfit that Casey wore– matching perfectly the seafoam jacket of Ms. Lyons. That would not be how her mother would dress Casey, not how Casey’s friends would dress Casey, not how Casey’s male friends would want Casey dressed– but I wonder if it speaks much more to a common bond earned between advocate and client. Breaking down the barriers, becoming a unit. As opposed to the superficial bleached blonde tough talking, in your face, Linda K-B, Ms. Lyon is nothing to her client, if not a rock, trustworthy, no nonsense, caring about WHO Casey is, and someone would would offer what Casey hasn’t had in her life, a non-judgemental, strong, trustworthy-trust’earning’ figure to model herself ‘with’.
It seems to me, that all the ‘Cindyisms’ in Casey, all of the friend-superficial-tongue jewelled influences, are being stripped from Casey, bringing her to a point of accepting influence somehow. How else does one explain Casey wearing that gawd-awful matching seafoam polyester handmade blouse. What does that clothing or her appearance matter at all in this– nothing. Maybe this is a level of acceptance of trust that needs to happen.
Pay attention to Ms. Lyon’s non-condescending, non-dominant, attention to Casey, attention to each and every word that’s going on in the courtroom, each and every indication of what’s going on with her client.
I think Ms. Lyon, if she’s allowed to take the control she needs, will do so when she has her client’s trust. I think that matching outfit was a means to express that trust– Lyon is there for no one but Casey. Not so with any of the other ‘lawyers’.
Just an amateur impression– but I think Casey has an increasing bond with advocate Lyon, and if it has to express itself in ‘sea-foam’, so be it.
Hi Denjet
nice to meet you.
I myself think it’s hard to say why and who the sterioids where for, did she steal them to pin it on someone or was she using them I doubt it but that’s just me. As for the tight chains well I think they could of tightened them to make her get a reality check !! as to why she was there. Her back was in horrible condition yes I can imagine her being horrified and I have nothing nice to say about her back! I dont have anything nice to say so I wont say it. I will say that her momma has a gross tatoee and casey has a gross back. I will leave it at that!!!
(btw– handmade is good– can be the best, not critical of homemade vs store-bot)
westsidehudson
I see we typed our “wanted to clarify” almost at the same time. lol
Seeing my comments follow right after yours reads like I made a snarky response by echoing your words. Please know your comments weren’t posted yet when I typed mine.
ps
I’ve tried repeatedly to post this new comment, but I keep getting a “duplicate message detected” error message. Really lol now.
wpg, maybe Mr. or Ms. S. Proxy is reading your mind!!
Blink,
Did I miss something in the new reports? While watching JVM tonight a gentlman on there said Caylee’s doll was injected with Chloroform? Now if you agree with the question, could it be she injected the doll knowingly Caylee would have this doll not far from her face?
Good Gravy. There is not a shred of physical evidence to support that.
B
Kleat!
What’s the “S.” in “S. Proxy”?
Kleat, here’s a link for Gatorade that might interest you:
http://www.labelwatch.com/prod_results.php?pid=602003
scroll and you’ll find:
GATORADE, COOL BLUE
INGREDIENTS: Water, Sucrose Syrup, Glucose Fructose Syrup, Citric Acid, Natural Flavor and Artificial Flavor, Salt, Sodium Citrate, Monopotassium Phosphate, Ester Gum, Blue 1.
then click on the individual ingredients:
ESTER GUM
OK Ingredient – This ingredient appears to be safe.
What it is:
Glazing agent, clouding agent, Stabilizer: Used as a chewing gum base and in some beverages.
What we know:
Glycerol esters of resin acids of wood rosins used as food additives in beverages and chewing gum are those prepared from wood rosin that is harvested from the stumps of the longleaf pine (Pinus palustris) and purified to a beverage-grade ester gum. This additive is approved for use by the FDA with a 100 parts per million limit in beverages (FDA regulation 21CFR172.615 & 172.735). This additive is also approved in Japan.
Other Names:
Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin; Glyceryl rosinate; Rosin, glycerol ester.
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Another link of possible interest:
http://www.projectghb.org/what_is_ghb.htm
snipped from link on this “party”/”popular w. body builders” drug:
GHB: Gamma hydroxy butyrate or Gamma hydroxybutyric acid, Sodium Oxybate
Made From: gamma butyrolactone (GBL) and Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide – basically it is degreasing solvent or floor stripper mixed with drain cleaner…
Description: A clear liquid. Looks just like water. Can be mistaken for water because it is usually found in a small (30ml) clear plastic bottle, a water bottle, or even GATORADE bottles, which contains several doses. …
Blink, how would that look for the defense, both from the judge’s standpoint, and from the jury’s, if they did switch tactics and take up Mr.Hornsby’s “accidental death” angle? I would think that’s about as prepostrous as going down the “nanny did it” road. Also, I would think that if they deviated from the original “nanny did it” defense, that would end any remaining credibility they had left
Blink,
sorry to ask such a question but it was just something that I heard tonight on the JVM show on channel 34. I thought it was something that I missed in the dump.
Kleat, so what do you think? Do you think Lyons is attempting to gain Casey’s trust for the sole purpose of bringing her willingly to the bargaining table?
westsidehudson
Do you have a page # for the DNA results on the flat iron?
I’m only finding that swabs were taken from the male plug end of the cord.
TY.
wpgmouse– the Ms. S. Proxy (S = Server)
(strike Gatorade from my shopping list!! At least it has no gator parts in it, that we know of)
Thanks, Word Girl– for the Ricardo check!
momof3, i’m of two minds about whether the disney bag is related. The place was a trash dump as we all know (there was an old tv, a tripod, and just gobs of other discarded things). And of course the area was flooded and a hurricane even blew through during the many months the body was there. Would that disney bag have stayed in place?
For me, the bag was absent many things that were found in the laundry bag, and this bag was unsealed.
#490 Kleat.. I personally think cindy was mad as hell at casey when she described the car.. and i mean MAD.. remember what lee said. Cindy ran into the room and screamed at casey “what have you done!” then 911 calls .. then we have the phone call when she calls casey out “if you hadn’t LIED you wouldn’t be there” I think as a nurse SHE KNEW (just like george did) when she smelled that car. if you’ve ever smelled that smell.. you know! Only after the bond hearing did cindy start to “”"spin”"”. I personally LOVE the youtube video that cindy states.. on camera, “I’m a nurse of decomposition”.. wth?
#525_wpg
Pg 6_(PDF 11988-12070)
I think that you are right thta it is the cord. wpgmouse.
I heard the same thing about the chloroform in the doll on JVM last night. I think the guy just didn’t know what he was talking about. Probably didn’t understand the discovery documents, and his comment certainly would be “bombshell” information, don’t ya think??
I am desperate for a pundit that knows the facts of this case, lol.
B
#499_momof3
Excellent post. Thank you. It helps to visualize the proximity.
I think Mallory’s depo (for the state) was scheduled for some time this month. It should be soon, if I recall correctly.
Comment by Fred McNeil — November 9, 2009 @ 10:12 pm
Yes Fred. And I’m sure that it was subjected to additional testing, if only fingerprint analysis. Maybe there are remaining lot numbers on the gatorade bottle itself, as well. There could have been a financial connection to the Gatorade and Casey, maybe it was purchased at Target?
Kleat_
The ingredients sound disgusting, when broken down. I don’t think that I will be purchasing Gatorade any time soon.
Comment by Todd in Tulsa — November 10, 2009 @ 12:40 am
“if they did switch tactics and take up Mr.Hornsby’s “accidental death” angle?”
I think that it will be difficult to gain traction on this defense, although it might have been a smarter one. Baez went on the record in the depos to question the Anthonys about accidental death and he intentionally elicited “no accident”from them.
Agreed, that, and the defense pending exculpatory revelations due Feb. 1, mark your calendars.
B
Thanks again suz, so that pretty much means that the body was in the trunk for a relatively short time. I guess it goes along with what the evidence from the FBI is saying. For some odd reason, it really bothers me that Caylee was just put in the trunk and laid there for several days.
Denjet, Hi: I thought that too about Casey using steroids, in relation to her jail weight gain.
Does it seem like there is a lot of evidence yet to come? This way of having a separate report for each aspect of testing is so frustrating.
Setting all the forensic evidence aside, there are just some things that, I believe, no jury will ever get past.
-Casey not reporting her daughter missing for a month.
-Casey’s continued lies in the search for her daughter
-Cindy’s explanation of “Casey’s not talking to keep her family from harm.”
-Re: above point: Now that Caylee is gone – and no further harm can come to her – why not spill the beans?
_NO outrage coming from any family members after the discovery of Caylee’s remains. If they were all innocent in this – one would think they would be SCREAMING from the highest roof top..FIND THE MURDERER THAT DID THIS TO CAYLEE. But, alas…no such proclamation. All is quiet in the quest for the “killer.”
There is just so much WRONG with the reactions of every Anthony member..it’s hard to know where to start.
Can the prosecution weave all these facts into a closing statement? Can the lack of action on the part of the Anthony’s come in at trial? Perhaps when they are on the witness stand – it will.
If, of course, this goes to trial. I have to believe the state wants to see the ultimate justice carried out for Caylee – so I pray this does go to trial.
Caylee deserves, at least, that much.
Truly – I am still in awe that it has gone this far. But, then again, knowing the players in this case…it really isn’t a surprise.
Someone over at WS posted this comment, it is in the syringe thread:
“In the text messages Ricardo phoned Amy on the morning of the 3rd of July and asked her to take out the trash.”
I can’t find the source of this info, if it is true. I looked at some f Amy’s texts. Can anyone help?
I did find this in his transcript:
(handwritten pg1299/pg 20/Ricardo’s transcript)_Casey washing clothes at Ricardos on the 2nd, he never saw the clothes but he saw her coming up from the garage.
Here is the rest of the post that I neglected to include, that makes it compelling to find the source of data:
***From the text messages, Casey woke Amy up at 9.30am, on the morning of June 30 and asked her to let her in, Casey slept there until the day of the 5th of July. In the text messages Ricardo phoned Amy on the morning of the 3rd of July and asked her to take out the trash. She said she had already gone to but it was empty.. There were 4 people staying there that week, surely the trash would not have been empty..Who removed it? I believe it was Casey.
I reckon even if they can’t link it to casey, it’s enough for the state to say, well, she was looking up chloroform on the pc and lo and behold, what do we find right with caylee’s remains but a bottle with chloroform in it.
tSo how will the defense deal with the gatorade bottle? Do they just have to show that there is nothing linking the bottle to casey (she doesn’t drink that flavor, she doesn’t use steroids, she doesn’t have access to needles, there are no prints, no dna, that site was a trash dump and that was just random trash, there is no proof as to how caylee died, etc.)?
Or do they have to go further and talk about the strange concoction in the bottle and how that trace amount of chloroform (is it just a trace? i can’t tell how many parts per million/billion or whatever are in the syringe/bottle) is sometimes found in tap water or could have occurred environmentally (bacteria breaking down carbon tetrachloride in an anaerobic environment releases chloroform, for instance, and so do some marine algae somehow) or show that underground steroid labs might sloppily include chloroform in their formula, having used chloroform to extract the testosterone from the source. IDK, just riffing, wondering how they are likely to address it.
“Drinking water levels as high as 311 ppb have been reported in public water supplies, although most of the reported concentrations
are less than 50 ppb, typically ranging between 2 and 44 ppb. Levels in drinking water derived from groundwater contaminated with leachate from landfills and hazardous waste sites can sometimes be much higher.” http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp6-c5.pdf
Kleat, thanks for the info. Fist article I see is Robin Alive in Orlando – Mark NeJame Rewards Roy Kronk. Date January 15, 2009. I was hoping to really get to the beginning of Blink/Anthony Saga. But I will start here. Thanks for your help. And thanks for all of your insightful information. Annie
In reference to my last post, I found a text message, but I would still need to find some conversation or text that implies that the trash was mysteriously taken out:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1677908/Amy-Huzienga-Cell-Records-Part-2
PG 35_# 891_When you wake up could you push the trash out to the (sic) jfront?I forgot sorry. If you miss it no worries we’ll do it sunday.
I don’t think the Gatorade bottle will be mentioned by the state. Unless there is DNA or fingerprints (which we don’t know yet), this evidence is extraneous. There was chloroform residue on the trunk sample (Q44 and Q45).
Comment by suz — November 10, 2009 @ 10:22 am
suz
I don’t think that it is advantageous for the defense to admit any connection to that bottle. Jurors will see through the smoke screen or intended diversion of going into the chemical contaminants in water. If there is some kind of direct link to Casey, they will probably say that the mystery person planted it there to ‘frame ‘ her’. It is too sinister of an item to ‘own’ based on the location, know what I mean? If it is Casey’s , then by virtue of it being next to the remains strongly implies her presence at the sight where the body was dumped; hence she dumped the body.
Punctuation gone wild, for me today!
Comment by ada — November 10, 2009 @ 11:00 am
The state already has strong evidence linking her to the body (from the trunk). She mentions the smell herself. She abandons the car. The duct tape is horrific. She NEVER called police. There is no paper trail on on any Zenaida. (even if there are some questions on DNA on items). Connection to the syringe would be icing on the cake.
Annie, you have to keep going back to ‘next page’– all the way back, the first article I saw was Zenaida Gonzalez.
And remember, Blink didn’t start this site at the beginning of the story.
Thanks Kleat, correct, I wrote for scaredmonkeys while this site was being developed. I think everything ported though, but the dates might reflect the launch date here.
B
suz, there is also the ‘picture’ of Casey, her history of behaviours that would be consistent with what we are seeing– this isn’t a simple, left the gate open, the baby got out, or someone spyed the baby in the front, snatched and killed her. There is so much more than this scenario, the complicated story of kidnapping on top of the original nanny story of a nanny who loved Caylee taking the child, the prior chloroform searches so there’s needles, there’s chloroform, there’s other strange ‘clues’ like steroids, the lost phone, the phonecall from Caylee on the very day her mother retrieved her from her boyfriend’s place, the dead squirrels plastered on the frame because her dad must have run over something– (her dad had the car that week, what was he doing driving after being hospitalized for his mini-strokes?), not just the Casey to Cindy stories, but everything else to everyone else. The saga of Zenaida Gonzalez with her accident that gained her a hospital stayover, a brand new dad-bought car, the details of her injuries, turned into more details as the story stretched on to another day, piled on and on.
George said that in the very beginning– this is what Casey does.
Remember what George said to LE early on– Casey does things, then keeps piling more stuff on.