Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: New Discovery Released

Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office is set to release 1000 additional pages of discovery this morning of previously unseen evidence in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Sources within the SA’s office speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com say the new information is largely FBI reports.

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The release comes on the heels of new motions  filed by the defense this week.

Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon, defense counsel for Casey Anthony filed a motion alleging double jeopardy violation  in the upcoming fraud case, a reply to the states motion to preclude death procedures and yet another motion to dismiss. A hearing date has not yet been set by Judge Strickland’s office.

blinkoncrime.com will be posting the latest round of discovery as soon as it becomes available. Please check back for updates.

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1,460 Comments

  1. Kleat says:

    (and how to pull Todd Mac’s big feet out of their mouths without anyone noticing)

  2. westsidehudson says:

    wpg

    “Tobacco spit? The Crystal Lite Bottle?”

    I don’t know this for certain, I haven’t researched any of those elements.
    This is what was allegedly said by someone at WS who contends that they have chemists as friends or acquaintances. There hasn’t been an official summary or statement about it from the state. I just wanted to be clear about that.

  3. westsidehudson says:

    # Comment by soulsister — November 11, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

    westside

    Amy’s texts http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5103418/Casey-Anthony-Amy-Huizenga-Text-messages-outgoing

    P. 1224
    “sorry hun, I smoked with Brennen and then looking for money I hid in my sleep”

    P. 1234

    “Tempted but too stoned to drive”

    SO wait, who is saying that? Amy is stoned, right? I guess this is the episode where Casey took Amy’s money? It looks like both groups of friends were into weed then.

  4. wpgmouse says:

    #693 suz

    You are miles above in chemical analysis and I at ground zero.
    Thanks for explaining in a way I can grasp.

    I understand what you are saying, but the findings make me think about the oil change pan taken from the A’s house, the gas can with the oil/gas mixture, and the line of questioning directed at GA containing oil changes in the cars.

    I don’t know the reason for the pan collection or the questioning, except that the compound list could relate, perhaps.
    2 swabs from the oil change pan and 2 from the exterior of the can were taken, but results not presented. The types of oils would be different – - one for a vehicle, the other for a small engine like a lawnmower.

    Wait. Could it be that the chemical compound results from the oil change pan or the exterior of the gas can holding a gas/oil mixture, dictated the ATR oils and lubricants library search on the liquids in the Gatorade bottle?

  5. westsidehudson says:

    #699_wpg

    uh-huh……

  6. westsidehudson says:

    I have a question, I have to go back at look at the Crystal light bottle data again, but wouldn’t it make sense that there would actually be nicotine and tobacco in it as well as all those other chemicals if it was a spittoon?

    I don’t know where I put it.

  7. suz says:

    ada, whereas the disney bag was just inches from the skull and laundry bag, ect., the pregnancy test was in lane 4 (which itself is 16-20 feet away from the baseline) and wasn’t found until Dec. 15 (collected at 1711 hours). pg 3438 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740700/detail.html

    The weed barrier found at the remains site is mentioned on page 3402 (pg 59) under “miscellaneous items G77″ but the tag # and item # are unknown, so i don’t know where it went exactly. http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740668/detail.html

  8. suz says:

    wpgmouse, i can see where you got confused over the brown liquid in a brown bottle, because for some reason they did send the sample over to the lab in a little brown vial instead of in the crystal light bottle. (pictured on 11523, described on 11518 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1106/21541051.pdf).

    I wonder why they did that.

  9. TandT says:

    The weed barrier seems to me to be significant. I have always wondered if the yard remodeling was done to cover evidence etc in Caylee’s death. The timing of it was just so, well…convenient. Was it so that they could throw away the old weed barrier and buy new to put down so that the old would not be linked to them? If so then they had knowledge that this barrier was somehow connected to Caylee. Was the weed barrier found at the scene linked to the NEW barrier? If so it proves items were put there after the fact. What were they trying to hide, or cover up? I believe they know something significant and continue to cover Casey’s butt. I feel this is and will be a very important part of the prosecutions case. JMO. The pavers should also play an important fact..all traceable back to the Anthonys home.

  10. wpgmouse says:

    westsidehudson:
    “#699_wpg
    uh-huh……”

    Could you expand a little on that?

    lol. Needed that, thanks
    B

  11. ada says:

    I went online to see if chloroform can be purchased off the internet. It can and be bought and used as an insecticide.

  12. suz says:

    wpgmouse, aaack, don’t believe for one minute I understand the chemical analysis in the report—it’s really just my take on it (my best guess) and I was trying to show my train of thought for why I reached those conclusions. Gawdnoze i can totally be wrong about everything, lol.

    westside, yes, I was sad to abandon the tobacco spit theory after not seeing anything (like nicotine) that suggested tobacco, and being taken in by the urine smell, BUT…it’s unclear to me how they run those tests, exactly. The brown liquid seems to match most closely with water, for whatever reason (the spit part, I guess). But we are only seeing 17 pages of the 98 page analysis (if you believe the page numbers at the bottom) so maybe they just were happy to post the summary data,, having concluded that the crystal light contents don’t actually figure into the crime?

  13. Boz says:

    I don’t want to sound blunt but don’t you think the defense is laughing about these blog sites. Bloggers are doing exactly what the defense is going to want the jury to do. Baffle them with BS. Confuse them with facts and numbers that are almost meaningless to KC’s guilt. I firmly believe the 31 days, KC not reporting her child missing while out partying and the Nanny story is enough to convict her of premeditated murder. The smell and the duck tape will help a lot too. We may never know exactly how little Caylee died. What’s the difference? She’s dead, KC killed her. KC never reported her missing. The grandparents are as guilty as KC. That baby was never protected by them. Anyone who can cover-up the murder of a small child and having that child’s body thrown out like garbage are inhumane. I think they’re all going to die of GUILT.

    No, I dont think they are laughing, I think they are learning and cringing simultaneously.
    B

  14. ada says:

    I looked at some other sites to buy chloroform. It costs $60 and up per bottle. The bottle is brown glass.

  15. chica says:

    kleat
    lol thanks for responding! so expediently! you could be right there, perhaps they are having many pow wow’s trying to figure what to do next. They may be sending smoke signals to eachother.
    they certainly are in a pickle and baez not being seasoned has to rely on lyons for most of his next steps.
    he needs to read Dummies 101 for lawyers.

  16. Momof3 says:

    #687 Joypath,
    I love your wit. LOL Thank you for the laugh, boy did I need one!

    westsidehudson, you are welcome for looking… sorry I could not assist further yeah for soulsister

    #667 soulsister,
    Thank you so much for finding these texts! I was driving myself mad trying to find them. I thought I must have dreamed it all!

  17. Momof3 says:

    TechMom,
    Hi, glad to see you back. I know when I first start posting I felt much as you do. My husband was tired of being a sounding post for my theories too. Now he is tired of me monopolizing the computer. Poor guy. LOL

  18. suz says:

    WSH, i am so dopey, I tried googling chemical compounds in chewing tobacco and found many, many articles claiming as few (!) as 2250 and as many as 4000 (depending on how alarmist they were)—but then they’d only name a handful of select carcinogens. So then it dawned on me to google each of the chemical compounds identified in the fbi report along with the words “tobacco” or “chewing tobacco” and lo and behold, i think I did find all of them except I’m not 100% sure about the MeOH. It shows up in a lot of articles, but sometimes as a solvent to extract something or other, and I have been too lazy to look further.

  19. wpgmouse says:

    westsidehudson

    The WS tobacco list …
    all those same compounds are found in pesticides/insecticides (checked them one by one).

    You’re right about the absence of nicotine and tobacco in that list . . . waiting to see what you find.

  20. Kleat says:

    Our national Canadian news channel just had a report on the sniper execution, all about it, as it’s not something that’s been seen up here as a punishment for a crime, for over a half century. The US citizens hanging around outside, commented that it’s about retribution, that the US has more crime/guns etc, than most of the western world, so more crime, maybe by doing this, one man said, it will deter another person from doing the same.

    Does anyone think the death penalty deterred Casey from killing her child? Remember she collected that little anti-dp cartoon, of the little girl eyeing her hanging teddy bear. ‘what lesson…? ‘ it asks.

    What will the victim’s family statements do to mitigate in the sentencing phase of a conviction, should it happen?– if not related to the killer, the victim’s family could show that they are victims too. But with the conflict of interest between the family and the state (ie: conflict in wanting to bring Caylee’s killer to justice), how does this work? Can the victims of the crime by extension (the grandparents) say the victimization will be worse if their own daughter becomes a victim too?

    If the grandparents don’t care to have justice for Caylee, it seems that there is only one victim in this crime, and the others, see themselves as victims of the persecution/prosecution of the child’s mother.

    Strange situation– one one level, they might argue that as the family of the child, they should be the ones to decide if justice is sought or not. Of course, that’s not the way it works, the child is not a belonging of those people any longer, she has advocates in the system who have never even met her– advocates who are not suffering directly as victims of this crime.

  21. Kleat says:

    Has Baez ever witnessed an execution– because if not, that may explain how he could play so fast and loose with his ‘famous’ client’s case, and taking many months, well a year, to come up with a motion to dismiss. (he was too busy playing the media money market with her baby’s image?)

  22. Kleat says:

    Chica, really, I have no idea about what the defense is doing– it’s just obvious that they will wait until they get an answer to their latest motion to dismiss, and onto the next plan, whatever that is.

  23. Thinker says:

    THANK YOU very much wpg and Blink for helping me dig for the LINKS to the official documents related to the weed eater/barrier material which was found at the Suburban remains site and also at the Anthony residence. I find this extremely interesting! I am also amazed that Blink and wpg and others were able to find these references in the voluminous documents and make the connection!!!!!!!

    With your help, I have located the LINK to page 9847, in the Oct 9, 2009 doc release, stating the weed barrier was found at the Suburban Dr site.
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
    pg 9847/ pg 826 of 1405
    Item # 18 – Pieces of Blk plastic (weed barrier) (MCL2) Q-168
    Tag # H-60510
    Suburban Rd
    12-13-08

    I also found the FBI contact logs that say OCSO has one of the weed eater/barrier cloths from the Anthony yard.
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html
    pg 10164 / pg 1142 of 1405
    Activity/Communication and Outcome
    12/15/08
    By: EPM
    Telcall from SA Cowan – family had property landscaped around time of disappearance – have weed barrier (black tarp – like ??) from residence; ? if units can do anything w/it.

    Now, I am will continue to search for the LINK to the official document that states the Anthony’s had a roll of the weed barrier at their residence. I do not know which document release to look in??? Do not know the timeframe?

    I found a reference to the weed barrier being with the bed of wood chips in the Jan. 29 – Feb 6 timeframe. Still looking for the LINK to the official document that talks about the 4 areas which Agent Bloise marked – 3 under wood chips and the 4th under the platform of 16×16 pavers from the July yardscaping. Do not know which document release to look in?

    Yikes not at the moment, but I want to say wpg posted the findings of CSI Bloise at the Anthony residence identifying 4 areas covered in woodchips that matched.
    B
    ps. to date, no stats on it’s testing or match to Anthony home soil samples. I am encouraged by that.

  24. joypath says:

    #720-Kleat

    One of the quirks of the jurisprudence system is that the victim is the victim and the case is brought by he STATE as an action committed against all of the State’s citizens (as in hurt one of us, hurt all of us)

    The DP has been argued ad infinitum as to its relevance as a deterrent to behavior, most seem to land on the side of….appropriate punishment for henious crime (s).

    The victim statement: might come from the great grands?, definitely from the “friends” of Casey who interacted with Caylee and probably from the SA!

    There will probably be briefs submitted “as friends” of the court aka by association, friends of Caylee.

    Mitigation: definitely in the “capable” hands of the spin-meisters, Anthony homesteaders!

  25. suz says:

    wpgmouse, I guess I never paid much attention to the oil pan swabbing (I mean, i was aware of it but always just thought, hmm, what’s that about, and moved on). In fact, I had assumed they meant the oil pan IN THE CAR (you know, like under the crankcase). In fact, I initially thought they swabbed the exterior of it, so I figured maybe they were looking for dirt or plants from the remains site. But your posts made me finally go back to look at the discovery, and I see they took an “oil pan” (I am thinking it’s an oil drain pan, for doing oil changes) out of the shed and swabbed its interior.

    Having read recently (somewhere) that LE took items from the shed in which she could have made chloroform, I wonder if that’s what they think the oil pan was used for?

  26. Kleat says:

    The defense must also be busying itself with the preparation of witness Dominic for his deposition come December. I wonder if someone will replace Ms. Tennis, who took little interest in prep’g herself for the case (she hadn’t even read up on the case, saw no need, so she said– her client didn’t have to be deposed, so why bother seemed to be her position). And she read the page the judge pointed out– and stumbled…. right, it DOES say that afterall. *duh*

  27. soulsister says:

    welcome Momof3 and westside

    time for kiddies to go to bed so I hope everyone has a great night!

  28. wpgmouse says:

    Blink,
    You commented on Edgar Allen Poe on another topic recently, but applicable IMO here.

    Kleat,
    You also referenced him further up on this thread.

    CA did have “The Complete Tales and Poems of Edgar Allan Poe”
    according to slide #36 of this link, images from inside the A’s home:

    http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

    and “The Shack”, By William P. Young, 2008. Did CA actually purchase this book on “forgiveness” or was it given to her to read – - when and by whom? Maybe both books are just deliberate props, however . . .

    snipped from Google books on “The Shack”, Book overview:

    Mackenzie Allen Philips’ youngest daughter, Missy, has been abducted during a family vacation and evidence that she may have been brutally murdered is found in an abandoned shack deep in the Oregon wilderness. Four years later in the midst of his great sadness, Mack receives a suspicious note, apparently from God, inviting him back to that shack for a weekend. Against his better judgement he arrives at the shack on a wintry afternoon and walks back into his darkest nightmare. What he finds there will change Mack’s world forever.

    http://books.google.ca/books?id=6L8eIAAACAAJ&dq=The+Shack

    I have read this book. It is so far afield from the beliefs of this family, imo. Regardless, astute to make the kidnapping connection.
    B

  29. soulsister says:

    P. 10 regarding Ricardo

    “… He didn’t smoke once the entire night. Maybe he’s making an effort.”

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5104115/Casey-Anthony-and-Amy-Huizenga-Text-messages

    this copy is nice because it lays out their text messages so it is easy to read and it flows in sequence

  30. suz says:

    Huh, here’s another one of those mistakes (I assume) in listing an item’s place of origin (we saw this mix-up, if it is one, earlier with the Whitney Design laundry bag that was retrieved from the garage, but later listed in a report under “items from trunk of vehicle”).

    3220 http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/0121/18530290.pdf swabs of gas cans and oil pan came from items in the south shed on Hopespring Dr.

    9896 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/gascanarguepullupsremains.pdf lists those swabs as coming from “items from trunk of vehicle”

    What’s with these FBI mix-ups, are they perhaps Freudian slips?

    I addressed this with the Laundry Bag ( rectangular). I think it is in a way, what you said.
    B

  31. Gavriella says:

    #720 This is so distressing, Kleat. Has there ever been anything like it, where the entire family would so turn against one of its own, and the most innocent of all, besides? Surely her advocates have come to embrace her. Not as a mother would a child, or a grandparent a grandchild, nor as an uncle would a niece, but they will still have come to care deeply and will be more than adequate voices for her, I assure you, and should any of the Anthonys oppose, they will but succeed in making further fools of themselves, for even the most detached will not be able to understand how it could be so that they who so professed to love her, abandoned her so completely, at the end of all things.

    Emotions will be raw, by the time of sentencing. A verdict of guilt, is the only possible outcome. Not only will the jury have seen, but the general public will have seen as well, and heard as well, all of the horrors that befell this little girl, and as the Anthonys continue on along the paths they have chosen, to lie through their teeth which will be made evident, they will have no credibility before the jury, the judge, witness or bystander. After all is said and done, all of the evidence presented, from the first search for neck breaking to the playbill sized photographs situated just so in the courtroom depicting such things as hair mats, maggots, bones and swamp, there will be nothing the Anthony’s could ever say to spare Casey. Nothing. It’s even doubtful that they will say anything at all. And so take heart, dear Kleat, and consider setting precedent when the time comes — as surely there are tens upon tens of thousands of advocates who would be willing to write/petition the court the court, on behalf of Caylee. Perhaps Shirley or Rick wouldn’t mind speaking on behalf of not only Caylee, but the rest of us, too.

    Humbly,
    Gavi

  32. Gavriella says:

    Sorry for typing the court twice. All of this rips my heart out.

  33. Kleat says:

    Any word yet on the motion to dismiss? And the dismiss idea for ‘extra’ charges in the cheque fraud case?

    Mallory Parker’s deposition still on for tomorrow??

  34. Gavriella says:

    P.S. Kleat Casey didn’t give so much as a passing thought to the death penalty. The child and the bear depict, in my lacking perhaps opinion, Casey’s youth/freedom being wasted (the onlooking girl) and the Caylee (child represented by the bear) hanging. It’s the indifference in the face of the child in the picture that causes me to think that she just really just wanted Caylee out of her life. It wasn’t until she wrote the poem, what was it? Diary of Days that perhaps she gave fleeting thought to the reality of what she had done. That’s my take, anyway.

  35. wpgmouse says:

    The first printing of “THE SHACK” sold out in August 2007.

    There is a reading sample at this site. A lot of “what?” in a short number of pages available to read…such as:

    an Italian mailman named Tony
    Tony’s wife Annie
    the main character Mack is married to Nan, a registered nurse …
    and there’s more

    Bizzare. Who knows what the entire story holds in it’s script.

    http://www.theshackbook.com/read.html

  36. Kleat says:

    I’m going to VOTE for the most frustrating video player in Orlando media sites…. (that’s frustrating spelled…. frrr..eerrr…….rr……rr… u..ss… t……..t……t..t….rr….aa…aaa…a….tt…t……………..tt………iii….
    ii….i…i….i….nnn…..n….gg…..g..g….g)

    It’s impossible to listen to…. missing words…. spaces… part of a ….word… the stuttering video player at CFNews13. It does not buffer first, play though, maybe pause once– it tries to play without preloading.

    Let’s see if it works smoothly without stuttering on a second play through. So far so good– next time I will play through with sound ‘off’, then come back later and watch. (backwards sort of way)

  37. Kleat says:

    Bill Schaeffer’s ‘community involvement’ includes: “Guardian Ad Litem of the Year Award 1994; and Award of Excellence 1995 from the Orange County Bar Association for pro bono work on behalf of abused and neglected children.” (source, his own firm’s website– but appears to be ‘statement of fact’ :)

  38. wpgmouse says:

    Kleat

    I’ve had the same frustrating problem. Eventually I took the video to full screen and it managed to buffer there and play its entirety.

  39. wpgmouse says:

    #721 Thinker

    I’ve tried to find the “roll of fabric” note, but no luck so far.
    The words stuck to me because I used/use rolls of this myself.
    I seem to recall it was an OCSO memo, and it would have been dated right after the backyard search in 2008 – - similiar to the one you found. Don’t remember when the document was released (otherwise, I’d have the link for you).

    “Yikes not at the moment, but I want to say wpg posted the findings of CSI Bloise at the Anthony residence identifying 4 areas covered in woodchips that matched.
    B”

    No, not me Blink. Thought it was you.

  40. wpgmouse says:

    suz

    Yes, it is an oil drain pan (oil change pan).

    IMO, I don’t think it would of been used in the making of chloroform because of contamination (I’m not yet convinced of CA making it. If anything, she got a small glass bottle of it somewhere).

    I’m thinking the connection is the oil. Perhaps LE found signs of an oil leak at Suburban in December that coupled with the examination of the car earlier in the summer. Maybe the car presented signs of a recent oil change back then either through the engine parts or under the belly of the car. I can see her backing the car down that slope.

    Oh, Hang on. Wonder if she broke a seal or something by catching the underside of the car on solid debris, like a big piece rock. Hmmmm.

    Those oil compounds listed in regards to the Gatorade bottle were the first thing that, for me, was a possible connection to the oil drain pan.

  41. wpgmouse says:

    This oil drain/change pan is really bugging me now.

    If CA did leak oil at Suburban, any repair or recent oil change visible to the car forensic team would have to of been done “before” the car was towed. I don’t think GA would have had time on the 15th to do an oil change. And he sure talked about the “ruse” of those metal stops he wanted to get out of the back of CA’s car on the 24th in order to change the oil in, was it Mrs. A’s car? Can’t remember whose car. But the conflicting reports he gave – - close enough to see the contents of the car when she opened the trunk, not close enough, no smell, etc.
    Hmm, hmm, hmm.
    And the State deposition. GA contradicted himself repeatedly about those gas cans and even got “ticked” eventually at the State when he backed himself into a corner.
    All this, just a theory of course.

  42. wpgmouse says:

    “The Shack”

    Blink

    So you don’t think there are any similarities other than a kidnapping? The “evidence that she may have been brutally murdered”, “deep in the wilderness”, the character names, the holding of the framed photograph of the little girl. Nothing more?
    CA had possession of this book, so nothing to indicate she may have read this prior to June 15, telling the nanny “that we forgive her”.
    I thought perhaps she read this as a “script” and found it as a way of justifying the darkness what she “planned” to do and receiving forgiveness for the darkness within herself, not the family forgiving her, no way. Maybe the family in the book was a fantasy to her.

    But, I have not read the book, I trust you, and will close the chapter on this. ;) If I am off track, I am off track. Actually, it’s a welcome relief. Thanks Blink.

    Well I am afraid I have a confession to make. As is often my curse, I did not finish it because I figured it out right away, and as I approached the half way mark it was obvious and did not compel me to move forward. So my knowledge base would be about 50%. I concur on the timing issue though.
    B

  43. wpgmouse says:

    Thinker

    I just caught “hand written” from the October 10 comment you posted earlier. It took me “hours” to read that stuff, and all the hand-written notes were excruciating on my eyes – - I actually got nauseous.
    From my October 10 comment, I take it the note was in that jumbo 301 mb document release of October 9, 2009. That’s the best I can offer with that mega pdf, non-html document.

    wpg we found it again, thanks for your help. I owe Thinker an apology. I was abit terse with her on requesting “links” from the FBI notes, your 1000% correct, that was a nightmare. I have since ordered the lab to have that tech use “The dragon” and transcribe via the laser printer. Teehee
    B

  44. OnASeriousNote says:

    #720 – Kleat

    As one personally impacted by the snipers (there were two, btw) rampage, I can only hope that the prosecutors in Casey’s case are as diligent in their case presentation in ensuring a death penalty sentence as the Virginia prosecutor who sealed the executed sniper’s fate. The prosecutor in the sniper case is one very well known for putting criminals on death row.

    I am not, as a rule, a death penalty proponent, and could never sit on a death penalty jury, but in cases like Casey’s, as with John Allen Mohammed, I could kiss the feet of those who are willing and able to make the call on behalf of the victims, and (secretly) me.

    I’m reminded of an ongoing death penalty stay involving the tragedy of a family w/personal ties to mine. Trying to explain the unexplainable to my children, friends of these two girls, has caused me to question my stance on the death penalty many, many, many times.
    In case the link doesn’t go through, google “Stacie Reed, Paul Warner Powell”.

    http://www.crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5312

    …and still he sits. Why? That I know I could not have sat on his jury and handed him the ultimate fate as an advocate to these girls has made me feel cowardly, though eternally indebted to those who will ultimately put this monster to death.

    I’ve grown up being called a “closet Canadian” (I love practically EVERYTHING about the country), a title I’ve embraced for decades, but I sometimes find myself glad that the death penalty option is here for those who can make the life and death decision for me.

  45. westsidehudson says:

    WPG

    WPG:But LE had the car and its contents back in July. And they did not remove pesticides from the A’s home until the December discovery of little Caylee. That’s why I wonder if it was something from the crime scene that prompted the search and removal of the pesticides.

    WSH:uh-huh……

    WPG:Could you expand a little on that?

    Thinking out loud- contemplating what you said. I suppose the intonation doesn’t come across in text. uh (short) – huh (longer and more pronounced); Response to a very interesting point made .
    Hopefully, you can hear how it ‘sounds’ now. Nothing more to add, really.

  46. westsidehudson says:

    Comment by TandT — November 11, 2009 @ 6:39 pm

    “The weed barrier seems to me to be significant.”

    I think that it could be. But that item may be more ubiquitous in suburbia, and giant home retail stores, etc,, than the industrial strength limited release fire-proof duct tape. So hopefully, if it is connected, they have some scientific methodology through fibers of it’s own material, trace fibers or soil samples from the home on it, to satisfy a statistically significant probability that it came from the house.

    But we are taking an approach like the defense, where each and every piece of evidence is scrutinized for connection, which is necessary for them to create reasonable doubt. The most difficult facts, that are indisputable remain: 1. she never called police, 2. she spoke of a smell in the car and then purposefully abandoned it (no squirrels were recovered), 3. she lied to police and never assisted anyone in the search for her daughter, 4. the remains were located within a short distance from her home, 5. there is no paper trail, witnesses, or photos of the individual that she contends kidnapped her child (someone supposedly in the picture for 2 years), 6. her family has been caught in “half-truths” and “mistruths”, and never once called for justice or the apprehension of the murderous perp. This is POWERFUL stuff. I just wanted to remind everyone.

    I am waiting for that one piece of evidence or summary that gives a clue about how the state believes Caylee was killed. It certainly isn’t entirely clear to me.

  47. ada says:

    There were other items that I didn’t see in any of the discovery. Was there any report on the plastic animals found with the remains that LE found? Weren’t they part of a set that was found in the Anthony home? I didn’t attempt to read any of the handwritten documents so I may have missed it.

  48. westsidehudson says:

    One more thought on what WPG said and TandT said, Perhaps the insecticide (from the house) was used on the “weed mat” for extra measure? To kill 2 birds with one stone; weeds and bugs? I don’t know the location of where the weed mat was placed, but mulch is nice environment for insects. If the mulch is close to the home, any gaps in the house might be an entry way for them. If you spray the mulch with bug spray on top of the weed barrier, you have no bugs and no weeds.

  49. suz says:

    onaseriousnote, I wasn’t personally impacted by the DC snipers (except for being pretty scared whenever filling up the car during those weeks, and actually being scared going to lunch when at work as I was right near a Michael’s (remember when that seemed to be a connection?), and then the Home Depot shooting was just blocks from my house, egads. It was a bit of a scary time. I hope no one you know was hurt or killed.

    wpgmouse, that is a good theory, only they took the oil pan swabs in August of 2008, so it would have been before Suburban was a crime scene and for any oil leak there to figure in.

    They said they swabbed the bottom of the cans since the cans had been in the trunk and thus might have come into contact with decomp. If they thought the oil pan had been in the trunk (as the Freudian slips might show—though I think those are just mistakes, like when they put the wrong year on a doc), wouldn’t they swab the bottom of it rather than the interior? Or at least swab both? That’s what makes me think they thought she mixed chloroform or something in it. Which I don’t think she did, but maybe there is evidence somewhere. I also don’t think the gatorade bottle is related, but again, happy to be proven wrong by the fbi labs.

  50. suz says:

    I ferget if Geo said he wanted the chocks out of casey’s trunk to change the oil in mom’s car, or to rotate the tires. I am thinking tires, but for all I know, he said both things since his stories don’t tend to stay straight.

    I think he kept nagging casey to get her oil changed, or so she said. Wasn’t that part of the jeff hopkins putting casey’s car in the shop story? urgh, it’s all running together for now into one big blur.

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