Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: New Discovery Released

Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office is set to release 1000 additional pages of discovery this morning of previously unseen evidence in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.

Sources within the SA’s office speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com say the new information is largely FBI reports.

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The release comes on the heels of new motions  filed by the defense this week.

Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon, defense counsel for Casey Anthony filed a motion alleging double jeopardy violation  in the upcoming fraud case, a reply to the states motion to preclude death procedures and yet another motion to dismiss. A hearing date has not yet been set by Judge Strickland’s office.

blinkoncrime.com will be posting the latest round of discovery as soon as it becomes available. Please check back for updates.

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  1. Todd in Tulsa says:

    One of my favorite Bible verses is Matthew 7:16.”By their fruits, you will know them”. Cindy and George’s “fruit”, or actions, is showing exactly who they really are. In my belief, one who claims to be such a “good samaritan”, and an individual of upstanding morals, would not be willing to accuse, let alone see someone convicted and sentenced for a crime they did not do. It’s quite obvious that the Anthony’s have NO morale, no conscience, nothing. Being completely passive and accepting of Mr.Kronk, Jesse Grund, Zenaida Gonzalez, and a host of others, to be accused of a violent crime, let alone being willing to allow the innocent to take the fall to protect your guilty daughter and the possibility of you yourself being implicated in the crime by means of lying, obstruction, etc, is completely reprehensible and outlandish

  2. Kleat says:

    Angela_NW, it must be in this pile of papers—> http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21148535/detail.html

  3. westsidehudson says:

    Comment by Thinker — November 21, 2009 @ 2:16 pm

    Thinker, over the last day or so I have lost so much in the way of feeling human. What I mean by that is my last vestige of believing that the Anthonys had any sense of ethics or compassion for others has gone out the window. That is sad for me, because I try to give most people at least some benefit of doubt, even in a miniscule way. I hate to see people as one dimensional.
    I just can’t square their actions any longer. And I feel like that may say something about me.

    Comment by Kleat — November 21, 2009 @ 12:34 pm
    It’s time to call in the reserves– *dialing the red phone under the cake plate– calling Silverspnr….*

    Lol, we are tight, it’s all good
    B

    Kleat,
    Silver has a few postings at hinkymeter, they are enlightening and funny. She may have been drawn by the particular topic, or latest post. (No need for Blink to feel bad) :)

  4. Kleat says:

    What kind of loving grandparent would wish their own flesh and blood grandchild, whom they were raising from the very moment of her birth in their own home, spend one more second in that noxious, mouldy bug, snake and rat infested swamp.

    George Anthony is lower than Cindy, in my opinion. Cindy is toxic, George has a conscience and knows exactly what he is doing for his own purposes of getting his murderous daugher, who cares nothing of her lost daughter nor the atrocious death she suffered beyond making it all better by ‘kissing’ the duct tape with a little red heart sticker, just as she added as a death symbol, to Caylee’s ‘angelic’ pose portrait, now devoid of its colour.

    The ‘truth’ will never be that Casey did it– and all and any costs to anyone or anything, including the justice system, is fair.

    George lives in his own little glass house and he knows full well he should take care that the same thing does not happen to him. Joy Wray or her ilk, could as easily as Kronk’s own X-Wives, make suggestions of inappropriate behaviours towards her own daughter, remember she said she didn’t let George alone with her daughter because she didn’t want her to go missing too.

    Those X-wives have their payment, promises of gains, just as promises of gains for Baez and his team. We now understand those sideways glances to Baez off camera, as Todd looked to him after each time he said ‘she is innocent’.

    This is why they can claim that now, because they have just revealed the real killer to the world, and it can not be undone. Judge Strickland should take some responsibility, as it was he who refused to put any gag on Casey’s team, now it’s too late. We could think he should recuse himself now because of this, but this is what the defense asked to happen for their own benefit, last year. So that would only work in their favour.

    As people start to think, well why didn’t they point to other people, like the people we know were in those woods areas early on, who are far worse than any Roy Kronk because they are convicted child molesters, or those who came to search the area and could be the killer too, this plays right into the defense position that it is someone other than their client, could be RK, but it could also be so many others. They will probably pile them onto the list too, to make the point and dilute the importance of Casey as the only suspect. This media event is just beginning.

  5. MsEnscene says:

    #171 Angela-nw, There are plenty of references to digging up dirt on many of the principles in the Anthony saga in most of the Cindy/D Casey texts and in those from Baez to Cindy “Rosebud” Anthony. Sorry I can’t give chapter and verse; many here are good at that sort of activity; just not I.

    Casey Anthony said “What dirt can we dig up on Kiomarie?” to Tracey McL. and Rob Dick of the Padilla Escort and Sleepover Team as reported by TM in her interview with LE. Cindy and Casey are two peas in a pod when it comes to digging up the dirt on innocent bystanders.

  6. MsEnscene says:

    #197 Kleat,trying to absorb all your musings re Baez and Co. setting up Kronk at some point. Are you saying this set up extends to other Baez clients actually planting evidence against Kronk at the dump site? I guess I am confused about a time frame which would include No Respone Cain, D. Casey’s peripatetic pokings, and Leonard Padilla’s infamous Daisy Chain.

  7. dee says:

    Comment by BEES KNEES

    Bees…we as in the human race. the folks out there that truly care…

    thanks for the shout out I am happy to be home…

    Chica my girl * I am looking for you

    Thanks Ragdoll, I am back in my happy place here at Blinks Block

    My biggest cyberhug to my girl Dee. I tidy-ed up your room while you were gone.
    B

  8. dee says:

    Thanks Ms. Blink for everything! My uber anal hubby is pleased with the clean up….hehehehe :-) Glad to be back to my happy place!

  9. ada says:

    JVM is the repeat with Baez

    If one does not have a hot poker within arms reach it may be worth a double look-see.
    B

  10. Kleat says:

    Blink, you think that your interviewee Mr. Williams, might have slipped past the defense target zone because he was not a state witness? Kronk, much more important to discredit because he is a state’s witness and important one.

    Email from bekkisoberby@yahoo.com to cindy at her D and A email,

    Subject: More things that just don’t fit..

    10,21,2008 a man was given a citation for trespassing. He artked his car along suburban and students at the school watched him walk into the woods carrying something (woods where caylee was found PRIOR to her being found)

    He was given a trespassing citation and told the police his mother was a psychic and had a vision about the area, he also called teh police with this tip and they didn’t follow up so he followed up himself. Yet the police didn’t think it ws suspicious that a man was carrying something into the woods, and the man says he knew casey as a kid..

    ??????

    I’m just shocked at how many people could have done this and the police didn’t feel information like that was pertinent to their investigation. That’s ANOTHER incident where they could have found Caylee much earlier had they just done their damn jobs and checked on an area where a MAN WAS SEEN CARRYING SOMETHING INTO THE WOODS!!!

    I had a special show last night dedicated to Casey, caylee and the new documents. Its somewhat strong language because frankly i am ticked off. The media and police lied to everyone for so long only putting out info that made casey look guilty now they put out all the info that says otherwise..

    Bekki Sowerby
    Criminal Injustice Radio http://www.talkshoe.com/tv/40429

    ====================================================

    Ok, we know who this was, that there’s an email about what this guy has been up to, pt 1 and pt 2 on Blink on Crime.

    But what is the connection for these people and the Anthony camp? Does it come the same route as the Todd Black/Baez connection? This notorious figure planting something in the woods, photo set up and given to the Globe way back last year? Is that supposed to be William’s in that suit with bag and shovel?

    How does William’s get away without implication– is there going to be a busload of these possible perps paraded for the jury to consider all the police lies/misconduct/inactions in this case, and will that be the real defense?? Roy Kronk, just the main character to lead the way in this parade?

    Fits Baez and Todd Blacks, and Lyon’s attacks on the judicial system and po-lice and state.

    KW is not on the official witness list, however, I can tell you as a fact the State/OCSO and Baez has spoken with him at length. I predict he will be a witness and this latest development is no more than the lowest hanging fruit. They have a fraud trial to hide behind.
    B

  11. Kleat says:

    (before anyone notes that the talkshoe.com link does not work, it does not because it’s not there, presumably– maybe someone can find it– it is typed correctly. It could be that Bekki Sowerby is Gil Cabot also (?)– maybe that’s why the link has disappeared. If so, Black is in thick as thieves with that certain defense attny and his firm.)

    Could Gil Cabot be working behind the scenes still, to discredit the legal system? Or is Baez doing a substatial enough job on his own?

    There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that Giltod holds an ownership stake, literally and figuratively, in the outcome of this case.
    B

  12. Kleat says:

    Blink, why can’t the defense be non-specific, and use the ‘facts’ of all these other people in the woods area, being possible perps, and all combined, to show the lack of investigation to find the real person(s)? Why else start the ball rolling so early? Maybe it’s the system who will be blamed, Kronk, only one very good example, but another and another.

    Marinade Dave made a suggestion to this effect, and after I read a few more of the emails in the doc dump, I wonder why not all these others, to do the same anti-establishment rant. The defense could really pile it on and make a jury believe that there was inadequate investigation of many many possible perps with agendas and character flaws, missed ops to find the body, etc, that the jury will have to say, something ‘might’ have been missed, and that’s reasonable doubt.

    Because doing so now is counterproductive to their purpose.
    B

  13. Kleat says:

    Blink, you think Judge Strickland is holding that close to the vest if it includes GilTod and his interests? That alone would subvert the justice system in this case.

  14. Kleat says:

    You think George and his family will be for the picking when they are ripened at the top of the tree? Wait too long, the fruit rots, birds peck at it, earwigs infest, or little tiny flies infest and lay their own little maggots inside. Will the fruit last that long?

  15. Kleat says:

    GilTod must have to draw the ethical line at planting evidence, creating scenarios…. even him… ;)

  16. Joan (Canada) says:

    London wanted to know what George and Cindy Anthony, Casey’s parents, had to say about the defense team’s latest move. “I called Brad Conway, their attorney,” Pipitone said. “He says they had no idea this was coming until they saw media reports. He says that they now just want to wait and see how this develops. … They say what’s important to them is to just know the truth.”

    This is from the Orlando Sentinel website. Yeah right, Brad, no clue whatsoever.

  17. Momof3 says:

    There are 2 reasons this would not work on me if I was part of the jury.(disregarding all the evidence in this case of course)

    One would be the fact that Casey, herself, NEVER reported Caylee (missing. She was tracked down by her mother at a smoke filled apartment of her newly found boyfriend Tony, where she was leisurely laying about, and dragged back home all the while ascertaining that she would return to Tony’s in short order.

    Casey never once during that entire ride including the stop at the police station did she falter in her story that Caylee was with the babysitter and would be fine. Never once when she was brought home did she change this story or show any concern for Caylee.

    That is until Lee made her see the error of her thinking that the police would happily just go away when she told them the same story of Caylee being fine at the babysitters. After finally “breaking down” she admitted that she hadn’t seen Caylee for 31 days.

    Two, I don’t care how good of an actress Casey perceived herself to be, her baby was gone in the hands of a sick man, not a beloved imaginanny.

    If your child was taken from you, especially if she is being kept by a strange man (KRONK) you would not be able to maintain for 31 days whether or not you were given script to follow. You would not be able to function let alone drive around, party and shop and all the while, not give a clue to your true feelings of fear for your daughter. (except of course to Juliette Lewis and Jeffery Hopkins)

    Not to mention sit through questioning by LE, your family, a grand jury, live through protesters,and spend more than a year in jail without giving up the truth in the hopes that your innocent little baby could be brought home safe. No you would rather sit in jail, even after your baby girl was found dead than tell the truth of what this despicable man did to your baby. B-o-l-o-g-n-a!

  18. wpgmouse says:

    Remembering the Defense “script”:
    “Non-Stranger” HAD Caylee; “Stranger” TOOK (and/or killed) Caylee

    Potential Defense “characters” (fictional story):
    “Non-Stranger” = audition GA for the babysitter
    “Stranger” = audition a meter reader to create reasonable doubt

    Blink, correct me, but you and I were of the same thought on the possible I.D. of the Defense’s non-stranger attempt, if I recall.

    But until now, I wondered who might be chosen as “the stranger” – -
    you probably had that figured out already.

  19. Kleat says:

    Blink, I didn’t write my post question very well. Do you think the Kronk attacks are just a preview of what will happen to others, as examples of ‘sloppy or non-existent’ police work, or will Kronk actually be singled out for his role as ‘the real possibility’.

    Zenaida Gonzalez, Mr. Morgan’s client, could be on the hit list too, same roll out of ranting by ex’s with an agenda and we can’t buy the ‘sorry you are cute but your not a 10′ theme, as we know the family was looking at ‘Zani’ as just a name for the person who last was seen with Caylee, not necessarily ‘her’ name, not necessarily male or female, and not necessarily a single person.

    Amy is on the destruction list as well– look at what Amy can hold a grudge about, stolen money, stolen ID, stolen checks, promises that fall through about sharing a home with Casey and the problems that caused for Amy. Casey telling her mother to say she’s sorry to Amy– appeasing Amy, the person who may have had Caylee still. Amy could have been said to be upset about Casey jamming out on the Jacksonville trip to pick up her new car, she could have been upset about how many miles Casey put on her car, maybe a scratch, or a dent that we haven’t heard about. There’s the unrepaid towing bill Casey ‘borrowed’ too.

    There’s the ‘friends’ and there’s the Equusearch volunteers, there’s anyone hanging out at the Anthony home, the protestors, there’s Jim Hoover and his connections, there’s anyone on Equusearch who may have never been anywhere near the Anthony neighbourhood, because they might have decided to switch search areas, or gone there on their own (criteria for investigating a person might be their past, what can be dug up, vs whether they were anywhere near the home area or not).

    If they follow the Kronk scenario with others, they will be attacking the system, the police failures– they will chose things the police did not fully investigate because the police made bad decisions to not fully investigate because they were solely focused on Casey from ‘day one’.

    In essence, they are doing with their own narrowly focussed and narrowly driven investigations to dig dirt, vs find the truth, just what they are accusing the police of doing.

  20. Kleat says:

    BTW, where are the Equusearch volunteer records? Does Mort have them in his little black leather case with airline retractable pull-handles? Or did they stay in Mr. NeJame’s office?

    It’s hard to ask people to volunteer for searches again when they can be laid out for the world on video clips, forever– like Kronk, there may be some who have ex’s with grudges or agendas.

  21. Kleat says:

    One more question– this seems tit for tat with what happened in FBI and police interviews of the Anthony’s that were released via Florida’s Sunshine Law. The police released those of Cindy and George, so the defense can collect hours of their own investigation materials and release them?

    Isn’t there a difference? Was what the defense did the same under the Sunshine Laws? Non depositions, not under oath, no official notarized transcripts, no privacy of the interview from a third party who may have influence on the person questioned. And with a sole purpose of ruining a witness of the state, not just discrediting, raising issues in a deposition to be used in trial, but beforehand. What if Kronk says, sorry, I take this as a threat and I am withdrawing because I can’t take more? (but of course, damage is done and can not be ‘unpublished’ nor controlled ever)

  22. Dierdra says:

    The ficticious Nanny of course, Caysey!!!!!!!!!

  23. wpgmouse says:

    I shouldn’t have said this in previous post:

    “Blink, correct me, but you and I were of the same thought on the possible I.D. of the Defense’s non-stranger attempt, if I recall.”

    Blink, let me correct myself for speaking for you. You never commented with a name regarding this “Non-Stranger” or on any specific scenario.
    My apologies.

    Just to clarify my previous post, it is JMO of “a” possible Defense “script”. Also, in saying “audition” I meant the Defense are using RK, amongst others, in an “attempt” to point away the charges against their client. GA, who in his State deposition “I’ll sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail, may be putting “himself” under the bus for CA.

    I think if I am clear on what your asking me, Dom Casey is next on the list, saving him for trial. It really would encompass all the necessary ingredients- Privlege, non-payment, civil suit, etc.
    B

  24. dee says:

    If this was a case of “Stranger Danger” and not “Zanny the Nanny” that would have been the story from the begnning, I would hope that the jury would take offense to this theory if it is brought to them in trial, it is almost laughable if this wasn’t a case of a murdered child.

  25. dee says:

    1200 Comment by Kleat

    Kleat/Blink

    do you think RK may have a chance at bringing a Defamation Lawsuit against these fools? I think that anyone that has been somewhat labled as the possible perp start filing some charges.

  26. Joan (Canada) says:

    From CFNW news

    “There’s a whole part of this case that no one is reporting or knows about and that will all come out at trial,” said Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez.

    The more immediate challenge for this defense team is the check fraud case against Anthony scheduled to begin in January.

    Casey allegedly stole several checks from a friend. She used one at a Target store to buy a handful of items.

    Could that case end before the trial even starts?

    “(Is there any harm to a plea in that case?) We’re discussing all options and we’re explaining all options to our client,” Baez said.

    There’s also the issue of Anthony’s solitude in jail.

    “She wants to see her family,” Baez said.

    Her attorneys are the only people she gets to see. The fact that all her jail visits are recorded and released to the media means its all fair game at trial.

    “The prospective jury pool is out there and I have to guard everything I possibly can with this case,” Baez said. “No matter what’s done, no matter what’s said, people are going to read into it and say things and overanalyze it and criticize it and I don’t think when you have someone’s life hanging in the balance you can take any risks.”

    Right now the check fraud case is set for January. The murder case will likely take place next summer.

    Baez is confident they’ll hit those dates.

    “There’s not gonna be any stall tactics on the part of the defense. Casey wants her day in court. She wants to prove her innocence and that’s what we’re gonna try and do,” Baez said.

    The defense has requested a change of venue for both the check fraud case and the murder case. So far, the judge hasn’t scheduled a date to consider that request.

    The next court date for Anthony is a pretrial hearing in the check fraud case on Dec. 11.

    That’ll happen one year to the day her daughter’s remains were discovered.

    What kink of plea deal do you think they could get with the fraud case?

  27. Mariann says:

    I have alot of reading to do to catch up but I did read the post where someone said it was confirmed by a source w/OCSO that Baez and Casey were having sex. Do you think that may be the reason for weight gain and loose clothing? Could she be pregnant?

  28. westsidehudson says:

    I am hoping that Siver can expound and give an opinion on hinkymeter.
    I figured that I would post this here, too for consideration.

    RULE 4-3.6 TRIAL PUBLICITY

    (a) Prejudicial Extrajudicial Statements Prohibited. A lawyer shall not make an extrajudicial statement that a reasonable person would expect to be disseminated by means of public communication if the lawyer knows or reasonably should know that it will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding due to its creation of an imminent and substantial detrimental effect on that proceeding.

    (b) Statements of Third Parties. A lawyer shall not counsel or assist another person to make such a statement. Counsel shall exercise reasonable care to prevent investigators, employees, or other persons assisting in or associated with a case from making extrajudicial statements that are prohibited under this rule.

    4 RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT
4-3 ADVOCATE
    RULE 4-3.1 MERITORIOUS CLAIMS AND CONTENTIONS

A lawyer shall not bring or defend a proceeding, or assert or controvert an issue therein, unless there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous, which includes a good faith argument for an extension, modification, or reversal of existing law. A lawyer for the defendant in a criminal proceeding, or the respondent in a proceeding that could result in incarceration, may nevertheless so defend the proceeding as to require that every element of the case be established.
    Comment

    The advocate has a duty to use legal procedure for the fullest benefit of the client’s cause, but also a duty not to abuse legal procedure. The law, both procedural and substantive, establishes the limits within which an advocate may proceed. However, the law is not always clear and never is static. Accordingly, in determining the proper scope of advocacy, account must be taken of the law’s ambiguities and potential for change.

    The filing of an action or defense or similar action taken for a client is not frivolous merely because the facts have not first been fully substantiated or because the lawyer expects to develop vital evidence only by discovery. What is required of lawyers, however, is that they inform themselves about the facts of their clients’ cases and the applicable law and determine that they can make good faith arguments in support of their clients’ positions. Such action is not frivolous even though the lawyer believes that the client’s position ultimately will not prevail. The action is frivolous, however, if the lawyer is unable either to make a good faith argument on the merits of the action taken or to support the action taken by a good faith argument for an extension, modification, or reversal of existing law.

    The lawyer’s obligations under this rule are subordinate to federal or state constitutional law that entitles a defendant in a criminal matter to the assistance of counsel in presenting a claim or contention that otherwise would be prohibited by this rule.

  29. ada says:

    Has the defense publicized this Kronk nonsense because there is going to be a document dump soon with incriminating evidence? This seems to be a pattern for them.
    After watching Baez on JVM (gag), he whined about all the information that has been released. Am I mistaken in my recollection that Baez did not want a ‘gag order’?
    I don’t mean for this to seem snarky, but Ms. Lyons does not have the appearance necessary for a defense attorney. Most I’ve seen are well-dressed and well-groomed. I think her appearance will have a negative effect on the jury.

  30. Kleat says:

    ada, Ms. Lyon cleaned up well for her Friday morning media, and I’d blame Florida and the southern humidity for the added frizz to her style. I do think though, she visited Ms. Linda’s closet (or they hit Macy’s together before closing Friday) for ideas for the leopard fabric blouse, or did she get the idea from the evidence of Casey’s leopard patterned bag? It adds a bit of flare and glitz for the cameras. Maybe she does not have good choice in summer suits in her wardrobe, for the rare Florida court appearances and in Chicago, everything will be ‘winter’ now in the stores. Really, she probably doesn’t have to meet media demands, in her normal legal career.

    And the low-key approach to fashion, or even business attire, might work well to catch someone off-guard, not that the state attorneys are that gullible.

  31. Kleat says:

    Mariann, don’t think that post you mention, would have been here, but you can go look through comments (not articles) to see if someone mentioned, and if there was a Blink comment attached. It’s not a big theme here IIRC.

  32. Kleat says:

    Joan (Canada), plea ‘deal’ for the fraud case? What would be the advantage to the state? It’s only going to be a day’s trial, the work has been done and they’ve been ready for a long time, and the evidence is hard to dispute, not one incident, but repeated incidents, she’s on camera, she defrauds a bank too, her attitude is cool and collected and deliberate, almost shows ‘experience’ as Lee talked about. And Blink says this trial is going to be a financial drain for the defense– all those counts add up to big money. And it will show Ms. Huizenga as the victim, the bank (many citizen’s very own bank) as victim.

    Can’t imagine a ‘deal’. Maybe Casey will plead guilty, but why would she get a deal on fewer charges by doing so, when the state has so little risk going for it all and so much advantage to gain with each and every added count that she is found guilty on? When it comes to her murder trial, the number of convictions comes into play and if Casey decides to explain and take the stand, and she decides to lie about her number of convictions, that’s bad news for her.

  33. dee says:

    1228 Comment by Mariann
    she is fat from all the snacks and laying on her backside all day…IMO notice her court pics it is not here belly that is bulging it is her rear end…

  34. dee says:

    opps her….
    ;-)

  35. Kleat says:

    Who is Gerry or Jerry Lyons? He was the investigator who first talked to one of the Ex-wives, with the video done later by Mr. Smith. Is Mr. Lyons related to Casey’s attorney and is he also an attorney or what is his profession?

  36. Kleat says:

    http://www.law.depaul.edu/centers_institutes/cjcc/faculty_admin.asp

    Was this assistant (woman) also at the deposition for Mr. Kronk? Media cameras showed another member of the defense team arriving– if they brought their office assistant, this deposition was no small deal.

  37. ada says:

    #1228 Mariann

    Everybody here at Blink is like the State, always playing nice and not resorting to name calling or smearing reputations. It is nice to be here in a place where everyone is civil. Every once in a while, some (delicious) dirt slips under the crack. In response to the recent tactics of the defense, I happily post that the information you seek is:

    #1112 Pamela

  38. Mariann says:

    Kleat- It was posted on the 20th by Pamela. C below

    Comment by Pamela — November 20, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
    “OK Blinksters – I just had my meeting with OCSO deputy that worked the case.
1st confirmed bombshell, although this was much touted gossip, I didn’t believe it, but Casey and Baez were having sex in his office. She constantly had hickies, and when they went to arrest her there the arresting officers caught them in the act. They also saw them at other times in states of various undress, and another time Casey had her shirt on backwards. He said she even attempted to hold Baez’s hand under the desk in court and he reprimanded her. There is an ongoing bar complaint against Baez over this, he and Casey both denied it, but there are too many witnesses.”

  39. Pamela says:

    1148 Bee Knees Westside – The bar complaint for having sex with a client would not be confirmed during the investigation. I have no reason to doubt this person, and I know he did work the case. He doesn’t think Baez realizes the full impact of this complaint by investigators in the case, and said the Baez doesn’t care if he’s a lawyer after this case, Baez thinks between the book deals, speaking engagements, and possibly becoming a expert lawyer for show, he’ll never have to work as an atty again. But he’s not thinking about the fact that he could go to jail for this.

    I had also posted, but it didn’t show, that the OCSO deputy told me that know that Cindy came up with the Blanchard Park story, when she saw the original Nanny story going south. He said the Anthony’s never acted right, for example, Casey claims the “Nanny” had a key to the house. This was a women who supposedly stole their granddaughter and was threatening their family with violence, but they didn’t bother to change the locks on the house, even when investigators recommend they do it, George said it wasn’t worth the expense unless Orange Cty would pay for it.
    They also immediately set up foundations and trademarks, to collect donations, but never once followed up on tips. He used Natalie Holloway as an example, her parents travelled personally to several countries that the “suspect” was tied to investigating. The Anthony’s went on a Media tour.
    He said (OCSO deputy) there is so much info not going to be released pre-trail, that puts the nail in Casey’s coffin.
    I also talked to him about the theory that George will stand at Casey’s trail and say he did it to get her off, and then double jeopardy attaches to Casey, and she can do the same at George’s. He said that it doesn’t work that way, with perjury.
    He didn’t elaborate on the suicide letter, as it is still under seal, but as one of the OCSO responding officers, he read it and said it will be integral in the trail. But couldn’t say more.

  40. BEES KNEES says:

    Kleat!!!! You’re absolutely right! It IS Red Green. The duct tape is a dead give-away . . . oh, sure, he’d have us believe he’s just a gruff old curmudgeon with a soft heart but he actually says on his site, “You don’t have to think fast if you move slow.” How much more do we need? He’s giving us clues as to why he waited so long.

  41. raceyrin says:

    If Baez and Casey were having sex ,would Casey be able to throw her attorney under the bus go for a mistrial , an appeal or fire him before it starts ?

  42. dee says:

    ada #1238

    is that what Baez is being investigated about, does the Boing Chicka Boing Boing mean anything in regards to Casey’s guilt? after reading Fanning’s book I was truly surprised (?) that casey was as “free spirited” (nice choice of words ay)as she was…not surprising though Baez seems dirty to me. But, do we really care who was getting some Donkey?

  43. Chica says:

    lol dee
    glad to se eyour doing better my friend!!
    lol about the laying on back comment. dee isnt this case taking a bazaar turn omg. incredible! unbelievable and etc etc

  44. Kleat says:

    The Motion in Limine, as pointed out by a commenter on Mr. Schaeffer’s blog, was written apparently ahead of time, and signed on Nov 18th, the day before the deposition of Mr. Kronk.

    Thus the added administrative/secretarial support that arrived with Mort, Lyons, Baez, could be explained by the need to type in the evidence from Mr. Kronk’s deposition answers that are being used to impeach Mr. Kronk.

    They didn’t change the date on the document, and signed it the day before, when they signed an incomplete document ‘in anticipation’ of Kronk supplying the information. Any penalty for predating documents then filling them in afterwards?

    For artists, this was the case with the infamous mis-use of Salvador Dali’s signature on hundreds of blank pages, to be printed at a later date with whatever images worked. Led to confusion at best, and downright fraud and forgery, at worst. Lawyer immune from doing the same with their pre-prepared documents before the information in them, actually exists?

  45. Kleat says:

    Part of the reason resources of the police were not focused on every single possible ‘perp’ scenario in the Anthony’s area, was the constant badgering of law enforcement by Cindy Anthony, who refused to cooperate more than once, and fought publicly and hard, so that the resources went to a ‘live’ Caylee search. We know how she treated Tim Miller when she felt betrayed that he would dare look for a non-live Caylee.

    We know why– she was spinning LE around her little finger and demanding they spend mega resources looking for Caylee in shopping center photos, and airports throughout the southern states, and beyond. Fits nicely to what the defense is doing now.

  46. Chica says:

    WHY ISNT NANCY GRACE DOING THE SHOWS ON THE ANTHONYS??
    sorry for the caps I guess I was hollering lol!!
    but JVM is not that seasoned to handle this type of situation or at least she goofed here why?

  47. Joan (Canada) says:

    Kleat, I agree. I do not see any benefit to the state to offer a plea deal. Do you think that Baez ever thinks before he opens his mouth. Do you think she would be stupid enought to take the stand. I think she is arrogant enought to want to be I believe her lawyers would talk her out of it.

    As for Ms. Lyons, I do believe that she dyed her hair and had it straightened so her and Casey could look alike, the bonding thing, you know.

    #1029 WSH, great post. Enables feeble minds like mine to understand better.

  48. Joan (Canada) says:

    OMG, it the battle of the media legal anaylists (sp). Mr. Hornsby is definitely p.o. at Mr. Schaeffer and Ms. Belchi.

    http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/11/22/in-defense-of-the-casey-anthony-defense/

  49. dee says:

    if Casey was prego that would be all over the news, also, she has been in jail over a year now, that baby would have been born..unless the duo was getting down in jail which of course would have been noticed…lets get past the rumors

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