Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: New Discovery Released
Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office is set to release 1000 additional pages of discovery this morning of previously unseen evidence in the case against Casey Anthony for the murder of her daughter, Caylee Marie.
Sources within the SA’s office speaking on the condition of anonymity to blinkoncrime.com say the new information is largely FBI reports.
The release comes on the heels of new motions filed by the defense this week.
Jose Baez and Andrea Lyon, defense counsel for Casey Anthony filed a motion alleging double jeopardy violation in the upcoming fraud case, a reply to the states motion to preclude death procedures and yet another motion to dismiss. A hearing date has not yet been set by Judge Strickland’s office.
blinkoncrime.com will be posting the latest round of discovery as soon as it becomes available. Please check back for updates.
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trust me if nancy grace was doing this show and not jane velez!! he wouldnt show up or wouldnt say much!
he knows that jane is more passive than nancy!! THE REAL EXPERT!!
jane velez sure is threading lightly with baez! I was gone all weekend and just got home so I am just know watching a rerun! I am listening not looking at the screen I just cant stand to see his face!! sorry but I have such disdain and disgust for this man!!!
Kleat, where did you hear the name Gerry or Jerry Lyons. Been all over the net listening to the interviews
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wesh-analyst-blasts-wftv-analyst-and-reporter.html
Casey Anthony: WESH analyst blasts WFTV commentator, reporter
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The media coverage of the Casey Anthony case has taken another strange turn. Now one station’s analyst is lambasting another station’s commentator.
WFTV-Channel 9 legal analyst Bill Sheaffer dismissed the latest motion by Anthony’s defense team as a media stunt. The defense team is pointing to Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee Anthony’s remains, as a possible suspect in the child’s death. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the child’s death. Sheaffer said the defense team’s interview with Kronk’s ex-wives are worthless because they weren’t done under oath.
But WESH-Channel 2 legal analyst Richard Hornsby praised the defense team’s motion. “This is the first significant and credible shot the defense has taken against the state. I think it has a high likelihood of success,” Hornsby said on the air.
Now on his blog, Hornsby writes that he was “flabbergasted” when Sheaffer described the defense’s “tactics” as “despicable.”
Hornsby writes, “The very conviction with which Mr. Sheaffer blasts the Anthony defense on the motion makes me question when he last opened up one of those law books he is always sitting in front of.” Hornsby says Sheaffer’s “legal commentary” has been “completely cheap and false.”
I had trouble reaching WFTV news director Bob Jordan this afternoon. But in the past, he has praised Sheaffer’s skill and said the ABC affiliate is lucky to have the lawyer in an analyst’s role.
In blog comments posted today, Hornsby gives lengthy and detailed criticism in analyzing the defense motion. He describes Sheaffer as “Mr. Suspenders” and “an attorney who reeks of elitism.” Hornsby also tells Sheaffer, “You are … a sell-out to your profession.”
Hornsby’s main complaint is this: “I think it is time that someone puts WFTV-ABC reporter Kathi Belich and her sidekick Mr. Sheaffer to task for the pro-prosecution pandering to the anti-Anthony sentiment, rather than providing objective analysis of the legal issues in the case so that the Central Florida community can have an informed understanding of the legal issues in this case.”
Hornsby says that he does all of his commentary for free while Sheaffer is on retainer with WFTV.
can someone show me when, how or where RK would have had gained access to Caylee that puts him in the possesion of her? what was he reading the meter at the A’s house and stole her right out from under Casey, and had time to steal the A’s duct tape and plant the body and the decomposition, did he steal her car too and run over some squirels, where is threat there? that she wouldnt have called 911. what a joke…. 31 days people 31 days…was Casey so scared of Kronk and his dead snake that she couldn’t tell her folks or the police? Helen Keller could have seen that…no offense
sorry this attack on RK makes me so angry
Casey Anthony’s lawyer, Jose Baez, rejected by Florida Bar on first try
ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.
For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other “financial irresponsibility” up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.
His overall behavior, they wrote, showed “a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law.”
He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.
Today, as lead defense attorney for Casey Anthony — the Orange County woman charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter— 40-year-old Baez has become the sort of instant celebrity monitored by TV, newspapers, tabloids and the Internet.
He is a Bar member in good standing, his office spokeswoman reminded the Orlando Sentinel in a prepared statement. She also questioned the motives behind the newspaper story.
“Based on your questions and actions,” she wrote, “this profile you are writing has nothing to do with Jose Baez’s representation of Casey Anthony and appears to be a sensationalist persecution of a Hispanic lawyer who has been targeted by a newspaper lucky to find itself at the center of a national story.”
The Supreme Court order, which the Sentinel found in public records, shows that nearly a decade ago, he could not satisfy the character and fitness standards Florida requires of prospective lawyers.
It identifies Baez by his initials, J.A.B. — standard procedure in cases in which prospective lawyers challenge their denial of a law license at the state’s highest court. Using other public records and interviews, the Sentinel matched many details in the document to Baez, however.
For instance, the lawyer listed as representing J.A.B. was Manuel Alvarez, an attorney with the Miami-Dade Public Defender’s Office, where Baez worked at the time.
The office confirmed that Alvarez helped Baez with his Bar application. Supreme Court records show J.A.B.’s is the only case involving the Bar that Alvarez has handled in the state’s highest court.
Alvarez would not comment, but Executive Assistant Public Defender Rory S. Stein said that Alvarez wrote a legal brief on behalf of Baez in 1998, the year after he graduated from law school. Stein called it “a friendly gesture” to a staff member who needed help with his lawyer application.
In an interview last year, Baez described his eight years out of law as a personal choice, saying he could earn more money in other fields. He would not be interviewed for this story but commented on the court order in the statement issued through Marti Mackenzie, his office spokeswoman:
“The ruling you claim that was made about a lawyer with the initials J.A.B. has nothing to do with Mr. Baez’s current status as a member in good standing with The Florida Bar. Many people, including lawyers, have monetary misunderstandings, disputes and child support disagreements that have no effect on their ability to represent clients.”
From Navy to law school
Born in Puerto Rico in 1969, Baez told reporters he grew up in the Bronx and South Florida with his mother, a single parent. He dropped out of Homestead High School in ninth grade.
He married at 17, became a father, earned a GED diploma and joined the Navy in 1986.
According to his résumé, Baez spent three years assigned to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Norfolk, Va., trained as an intelligence analyst with what he described as a “Cosmic Top Secret” security clearance.
He left active duty in May 1989 as a yeoman seaman, a rank associated with administrative duties, and then served in the U.S. Navy Reserve, according to the National Archives and Records Administration.
In the next six years, Baez divorced, attended Miami-Dade Community College and graduated from Florida State University. A black belt in tae kwon do, Baez competed with the karate, pistol and crime-scene team from FSU’s chapter of Lambda Alpha Epsilon, a fraternity of criminology majors.
“We probably ranked first overall in every category in every national competition,” said Ken Koehler, the fraternity’s former sergeant-at-arms. “José was more or less the primary instructor. … We did academic testing as well, and he did pretty good with that, too.”
After graduating in 1997 from St. Thomas University School of Law in Miami, Baez applied to become a lawyer. In April 1998, he was called before the Florida Board of Bar Examiners, which screens prospective lawyers. The later Supreme Court order outlined how this review uncovered the debts and other problems that concerned the Bar examiners.
That order is the only public record of the review, which is designed to protect the public and safeguard the judicial system. The Bar examiners have responsibility for ensuring that all lawyer applicants meet Florida’s requirements for character and fitness, education and technical competence, according to Supreme Court rules.
The process is not open to the public, except when a candidate who is turned down asks the Supreme Court to review the decision. The court identifies the rejected applicant only by his or her initials when its findings are released.
Court critical of finances
According to the Supreme Court summary of the case, the Board of Bar Examiners filed formal allegations against J.A.B. in September 1998. In addition to unpaid child support, a personal bankruptcy and default on a student loan, the investigators said he left out parts of his history, including that he wrote a bad check and entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction.
Investigators also found fault with J.A.B.’s participation in a foreign-studies program in summer 1995 and his leasing of a Mazda Miata in Miami — unnecessary expenses when he owed money to others, they said.
After a formal hearing, the board found the allegations proven and recommended that he not be admitted to the Bar.
“Additionally, the Board found that J.A.B.’s misrepresentations and lack of candor in his answers to the specifications and during his formal hearing testimony were further grounds for disqualification,” the Supreme Court wrote.
Many details in the order can be confirmed in public records for José Baez:
•Miami-Dade Circuit Court records show that Baez failed repeatedly to pay his $200-a-month child support after his 1993 divorce. The sum owed reached $12,000 by 2004. Asked recently about this, Baez said through his spokeswoman that he and his ex-wife have resolved their child-support issues. Like J.A.B., Baez’s only child is a daughter.
•Baez declared bankruptcy in September 1990, the same month and year cited for J.A.B. The records on Baez are filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, where he lived during and after his service in the Navy.
•The Virginia Education Loan Authority filed liens against Baez for $4,336 in unpaid loans in 1995, the same year the Supreme Court says J.A.B defaulted on his student loan.
•Baez leased a Mazda Miata in 1998, just as J.A.B did. The Sentinel obtained a copy of his Progressive Express insurance card for the vehicle, which Baez had submitted to the Public Defender’s Office in Miami. Files from the State Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles show the car was leased.
In April 1998 — the same month that the Bar examiners held their investigative hearing into J.A.B.’s qualifications as a lawyer — the Miami-Dade Public Defender’s Office reassigned José Ángel Baez to tasks that did not require a law degree.
Baez spent the next 16 months interviewing witnesses and investigating cases to compensate the office for its investment in his preparation to be a lawyer, records show. He resigned in September 1999.
The following year, in June 2000, the Supreme Court issued its findings in case No. SC95855, Florida Board of Bar Examiners RE: J.A.B.: “Accordingly, we approve the Board’s recommendation that J.A.B. not be admitted to the Florida Bar at this time.”
Baez tries bikini business
Turned down by the Bar, Baez started a series of businesses.
They included Bon Bon Bikinis and Brazilian-Bikinis.Com to sell bathing suits, corporate records show. He also applied for a real-estate license and created two companies selling computer know-how: LawStudentWebsites.Com and LawyerConcepts.
From 2000 to 2005, according to his spokeswoman, Baez worked for LexisNexis, the information company. In an interview last year, he said he taught lawyers and judges to research cases using the Internet and made twice as much as he could practicing law.
Records show that a court in Miami docked $550 a month from his LexisNexis paycheck in 2004 to pay child support to his first wife.
An applicant denied admission to the Bar can reapply after two years or other such period set by the Bar examiners. The application must include a “written statement describing the scope and character of the applicant’s evidence of rehabilitation,” according to Supreme Court rules.
The court requires them to produce “clear and convincing evidence of rehabilitation,” such as strict compliance with judicial or administrative orders, assurances to “conduct one’s self in an exemplary manner” and demonstrations of excellent character, good reputation for professional ability and “positive action” in their occupation, religion or community or civic service.
Baez launched two community-service ventures during his time away from the law.
In 2001, according to state records, Baez created a nonprofit group, the Miami Domestic Violence Project. It dissolved two years later. Mackenzie, Baez’s office spokeswoman, said the project disbanded because another group with an almost identical purpose and name already existed.
In 2004, Baez created another nonprofit in Miami, Miracles for Children Foundation Corp., according to state records. It continued until Sept. 16, 2005.
The following week, Sept. 22, Baez was admitted to practice law. Because the admission process for lawyers is not public, there is no way to know what effect these nonprofit groups had on the Bar’s action.
Amy L. Edwards, Sarah Lundy, Walter Pacheco, Bianca Prieto, Mary Shanklin and researcher Susan K. Thompson of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Henry Pierson Curtis can be reached at 407-420-5257 or hcurtis@orlandosentinel.com.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2009/may/03/casey-anthonys-lawyer-jose-baez-rejected-florida-b/
Richard Hornsby’s view of the latest motion filed:
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/11/22/in-defense-of-the-casey-anthony-defense/
In Defense of the Casey Anthony Defense.
November 22nd, 2009 Richard Hornsby
Disputes over bills, support
Since he became a lawyer, Baez has been involved in several money disputes. They are mostly small compared with the bankruptcy, bad debts and other financial issues that prompted the Florida Board of Bar Examiners to refuse his application to the Bar after he graduated from law school in 1997. He was not admitted to practice law until 2005.
Darlene Bryant, a court reporter in North Carolina, said she spent six months in 2007 trying to get Baez to honor a $275 bill for work she did for him.
“He finally paid after I got the state Bar Association involved,” she said.
Baez also ended up being sued in April 2007 over an $837.62 bill for 1,000 of his plastic business cards, which are decorated with a golden crest. Sir Speedy Printing went to court and won after Baez refused an offer from the Orange County Bar Association to mediate.
And in January 2007, four months before he bought a $670,000 waterfront home in a country-club community on East Lake Tohopekaliga, Baez was held in contempt of court for failing to pay $4,000 in child support, according to Miami-Dade Clerk of Court records.
His office spokeswoman, Marti Mackenzie, told the Sentinel that Baez and his former wife have resolved their support issues.
Who is Jose Baez? Defending Casey Anthony brings celebrity, headaches
Spotlight follows big case
Baez’s finances would be of little interest had the case of a lifetime not fallen into his lap in July. When Anthony picked Baez to defend her — based on the recommendation of someone she met in jail, her mother has told reporters — he took on a case that has attracted attention around the world.
Since then, he has appeared on Good Morning America and 20/20 on ABC, The Early Show on CBS, Today on NBC, Larry King Live on CNN, Geraldo at Large on Fox and others.
Last summer, he traveled to New York City, where he and his wife spent part of a day sailing with Fox’s Rivera. Photos of the outing show a grinning Baez on deck with Rivera.
Heavy media schedules by defense lawyers raise the eyebrows of some seasoned lawyers. University of Florida law professor Michael Seigel, a former federal prosecutor, said any lawyer who goes public risks being accused of tainting the jury pool.
“It’s very dangerous,” Seigel said “Unless you are very skilled at it, it can truly backfire.
Most of the best attorneys around the country tend to be very quiet. They wait to try the case in a courtroom setting.”
Setting a tone for the defense
Early on, Baez confounded reporters by taking on a media-relations company that used three anonymous — and often irritable — spokesmen calling themselves “Todd Black.” Baez severed ties with Press Corps Media after one of the spokesmen turned out to be a felon who served time for trying to extort money from a TV reporter in California.
Mackenzie, who was hired to replace Press Corps Media, said in March that Baez had not known the felon’s background.
Robert M. Jarvis, who teaches classes in legal ethics and law and popular culture at Nova Southeastern University Law Center in Fort Lauderdale, said the incident is just one of many twists in the case.
“I think he’s a guy who’s clearly in over his head. Handling a capital-murder case is obviously the most challenging thing a lawyer can do,” Jarvis said. “So it’s very surprising right from the get-go that a lawyer with less than four years of experience is handling this case. … Right off the bat, you have to say this is a guy who is very cocky or who is really naive.”
Baez does his own speaking in court, where he has annoyed state prosecutors with his motions.
He has demanded repeatedly that the state speed up release of evidence it has and make it available for analysis by his experts. He has sought to block release of photos and videos that he said could show his client in a bad light. He has sought sanctions for prosecutors he accused of moving too slowly on his requests. He complained to the judge when the State Attorney’s Office sparked a Florida Bar investigation by sending it news releases from his former spokesman.
He often does not prevail. For example, when the state wanted to force Anthony to appear in court, Baez balked, saying she didn’t want to appear in public. The judge ruled against him, requiring she attend every hearing.
What Baez makes clear in all his court appearances is that he intends to vigorously challenge the state’s interpretation of what the evidence against his client shows.
Who is paying, state asks?
A continuing controversy stems from the question of how Anthony, who had no assets when arrested in July, is paying for her defense, including the hiring of nationally recognized expert witnesses. One of them, pathologist Dr. Henry Lee, testified for O.J. Simpson at his murder trial.
In March, prosecutors asked Circuit Judge Stan Strickland to investigate whether Baez was playing two potentially conflicting roles for Anthony: defense lawyer and story agent.
Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton speculated in a motion that Anthony’s “seeming conversion from pauper to princess” could be based on sale of her photos and videos, which had appeared in national TV reports about the case. He further speculated whether Baez could be managing both her assets and her defense.
TV networks admit that they often pay “licensing fees” for videos and photos, but they will not say whether — and whom — they paid to use photos and video of Anthony and her family.
Strickland refused to step in after Baez denied having any arrangement with Anthony to sell her story. Baez accused prosecutors of trying to intimidate and embarrass him.
Under the spotlight of the Anthony case, Baez had to retract a claim on his Web site that he won 32 out of 34 jury trials after starting work in 1995 with the Miami-Dade Public Defender’s Office. Acting on a complaint, a Florida Bar grievance committee ruled that Baez should have mentioned he was an intern, not a lawyer, when the cases were tried.
Baez criticizes Sentinel
In refusing to be interviewed, Baez issued a statement chiding the Sentinel for writing about him. Commenting on recent coverage, it said “your discrimination against a young, hard-working Hispanic lawyer who represents a high-profile client borders on racism. I wonder what reactions this profile on a prominent Hispanic lawyer will have on your readership.”
Baez often mentions his ethnicity when talking about his defense of Anthony. Talking to reporters outside the Orange County Courthouse in January, he said he was the first Hispanic lawyer to handle a case of such magnitude — a claim he has repeated since then.
Asked to evaluate the statement, Ramona Romero, president of the Hispanic National Bar Association, named several Hispanic attorneys across the nation involved in cases of national significance.
“I hope his defense work goes well,” she said of Baez, “but for him to say it’s the most high-profile case a Hispanic lawyer has ever handled I think is inaccurate.”
Baez has characterized the scrutiny and criticism he faces as an unavoidable consequence of his job. He also describes himself as a standard-bearer for future Hispanic lawyers.
“And I will not embarrass those that come after me by doing something as foolish and as unethical as what … I’ve been accused of,” he said outside the courthouse in January.
911—– i just found’my daughters car and it smells like theres been a damn dead body in the trunk of the car;……. famous words by cindy anthony
how do we get past this? any takers…?
Screw all the other BS statements this one holds the most water…IMO
dee, sure hope they can bring a defamation, slander or libel (no idea who is responsible for each– lawyers wrote the motion, the family ‘spoke’, who ‘published?– so is it just the lawyers who are responsible for defamation etc because the video tapes were in their hands. They put these videos out to the public, rather than asking the court to review them first, decide if they should be published as per Sunshine laws– or tossed out, unpublished).
Sure hope they can do something. And I’ve been wondering, wouldn’t the accused Mr. Kronk, be allowed to face his accuser, Ms. Anthony? Shouldn’t she have to speak to how she knows the baby disappeared and how Mr. Kronk fits in. She must be able to give a time and date for the child going missing– a firm ‘real’ time and date. Because then, Mr. Kronk might be able to give an alibi for that specific date and time– that is not even possible for him to do, without Casey’s own cooperation.
I still think someone hinted to the county, got him fired– maybe Jerry Lyons and sidekick Mort, paid them a visit, got his work schedule so they would know when he did or did not have alibi’s for being elsewhere with witnesses. I am so suspicious of the circumstances of his firing– maybe deserved, but it’s just timed so well before all this was exposed that someone could give a bit of this trash info to his superiors, maybe the insurance company investigators got wind of it .
i don’t know how to post a link but i just read on the blogs hal bodker sight that the attorney hornsby blasted WFTV legal analyst Bill scheaffer and kathy belich…it’s on his blogs and said not so nice things
DOGFIGHT!! DOGFIGHT!!
Gloves are on, muzzles are off!!!
In one corner of the yard, we have Bill ‘Suspenders’ Schaeffer aka Ye Olde Suspenders, and in the other, Richard ‘Nostradamus’ Hornsby.
Hornsby gets in a direct blow to Mr. Schaeffer’s media pandering, calling him ‘cheap and a sell-out’ to his profession. Is Mr. Suspenders down for the count? Does ABC media really pay a retainer for his legal opinions while Richard ‘Nostradamus’ (aka puritan) Hornsby, provides his media opinions for ‘free’?
I will take a point back for Mr. Schaeffer, that is, on behalf of Mr. Schaeffer, to call Mr. Hornsby out on his quote of ‘talk is cheap’== cheaper if you don’t pay for it, or cheaper if you do?
Mr. Hornsby gives Mr. Schaeffer points for the nice giraffe.
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2009/11/22/in-defense-of-the-casey-anthony-defense/
I can only observe. Say, Dee– Richard Hornsby confronts Schaeffer head on, re: the question of slander, defamation, libel issue– he says the only people who can be taken to task on that issue, are the women who did the talking. Hornsby also seems to suggest that Brandon was perhaps wrong on his dates and may need to be given an opportunity to correct his memory on that point. Mr. Hornsby is impressed by the Coast Guard ‘chief’ designation.
Here’s the deal, Casey has been so non-committal on what she did with the baby when, she does not even admit to the last hour she had possession of her own baby, without changing the day (actually, the month and day) and hour the baby was last with her alive.
Kronk had a work schedule, not much for the defense to figure that out, when Kronk would be working, have a solid alibi, talk to his friends. Then, as defendant and advising her lawyers, Casey could ask for this information in detail. Casey would then be in a position to decide on a new set of times and dates, to fit with Kronk’s times when he was likely alone, had no alibi, and how to fit that into her testimony, or facts given to her lawyers to work with.
Perfect– a mother doesn’t even know when her daughter was last with her alive nor who actually took her, or if she just ‘disappeared’, what’s the timeline for that disappearance? She has not said– why??
My posts seem to be banned from the wftv blog comments page– I put too long a post in, it accepted but didnt’ show. So I fixed it later on, didn’t work. And put a short polite line in to see if it worked, still no sign of being posted. Just tried again now, still doesn’t work. So Blink is stuck with me
They might be going overboard on the blacklisting over there– well, blacklisting’s a bit strong, but nothing in my posts contents were objectionable. Strange. But I did catch a post and headed over to read Hornsby’s blog rant ‘in kind’.
kleat the defense said roy Kronk took the day off the day before he found Caylee….what is your thoughts on that?
I am going to post this link to this site and you can all read and try to figure out who it is if you can… hehe
http://www.asecondbreath.net/
It is totally okay in my book to feel that KC may not have donet this but this person that owns this site is a little biased and may have the skills to even persuade a jury person?
Instead of hotly pursing the “some other dude did it” defense, I would love for the defense to state Casey’s alibi during the suspected time of the murder that can be corroborated by any other person on the face of the planet. To date, I cannot recall ever hearing ANYTHING specific as to Casey’s whereabouts from the defense. If she didn’t do it, where was she and who can vouch for her?
Kleat, your #1264: Once Caylee was dead, I think Casey effectively erased her in her mind. I do not believe the baby’s death held enough importance for Casey to remember the date, hence the attachment to Cindy’s stressed & mistaken claim that Caylee had been gone since the 9th of June.
I truly do think Casey is such a cold-hearted sociopath that she doesn’t even know how to pretend to be a grieving mother. I have never seen anyone with such flat affect, the way she behaves in the LE interviews & subsequent jailhouse visitation videos. Unbelievable.
I read the Hornsby blog. Since I am not a lawyer, I can’t attest to his opinion of the law. The filing may have been “pitch perfect”. The timing & motive, however, remains suspect to me: the fact that it was filed before the depo- to be released directly after (for maximum effect), that Brad Conway announces prior to the depo that essentially something will come out about Kronk’s past ” blowing the horns” to the media (if you will, before the announcement), but especially the fact that the defense scheduled a rapid media blitz to directly follow. Whether that motion was legally correct, still does not discount that the real intention was to disseminate, further this information along to get headlines of Kronk’s “involvement” in the murder and capitalize on it before the judge could even rule on admissibility, thereby ensuring that ALL of the country heard about it, even if the judge MAY rule against it. Therefore they wanted the jury pool to have this slant regardless of the legal standing of the motion: that is not intentionally tainting a jury pool? That Hornsby goes on to ascribe a motive for Belich ’s reporting based on who she has dated, seems to be the same tactic that was used by C Anthony’s defense. If you don’t like what someone is saying or how things are being reported, dig up personal things about people to discount them. I’m not saying that she doesn’t have a bias toward a prosecution position, but why does Hornsby feel that it is HIS place to reveal private relationships? Isn’t his opinion of the law strong enough to stand on it’s own that it doesn’t require name calling and dirt digging? Rather than simply arguing law, which I appreciate hearing about in depth, he resorts to calling Sheaffer “Mr Suspenders” and then goes on to mock his age. Classy.
That is unfortunate indeed.
B
The interesting thing about all of this, from a personal perspective, is that I am not a proponent of the death penalty. I have never been one to want to see Casey sentenced that way. But the actions of the defense and the Anthonys in their quest to destroy everyone or anyone IS despicable, as Schaeffer commented, to the non lawyer types, like myself, following the case. Is it a stroke of genius in terms of legal maneuvering? Perhaps. But 12 defense lawyers are not going to serve on a jury. Since there was no documentation of motive and opportunity for Kronk to commit the crime in the motion, there probably isn’t any, and it will likely anger jurors that this person has been drug through the mud (along with all the others, as evidenced by Cindy’s email correspondence). This only serves to bring more disdain to Casey Anthony. So maybe some lawyers may look to whoever wrote this latest motion as a legal wiz. But does that necessarily even benefit Casey Anthony in the long run?
Comment by Pamela — November 22, 2009 @ 6:05 pm
The bar complaint for having sex with a client would not be confirmed during the investigation.
Pamela
If there is a bar complaint, I don’t believe that the bar can keep it a “secret”. I agree that they would not disclose the nature of the complaint. But I can’t imagine that they would outright deny that one is pending and being investigated, regardless of the nature or accusations. Blink?
They would only confirm the existance of a pending complaint, not obligated to release any other information. And that would be dependent on the status of whether it went to a disciplinary file. If is was dismissed prior to that, I do not believe they have to confirm it at all.
B
Kleat,
Several months ago, Bill Sheaffer said the entire case would rest on these two issues: 1. Who did Casey give Caylee to or who took her?
2. Where and when did this exchange occur?
Alibis, cell phone pings, work schedules, witnesses, etc. will eliminate all but the imaginary people.
I don’t think that has changed. Everything else is obfuscation.
I think Hornsby is trying to cash in on the Anthony/Baez gravy train. There are plenty of legal analysts who are not supporting Casey or making money from the murder of Caylee, but Baez and Geraldo are the only ones “cashing” in on Casey’s presumed innocence. I am afraid that as so often in this case, it’s all about the money.
Good morning everyone. Read the fiasco on Mr. Hornsby’s blog. I sincerely hope that is not his attitude in court. You can disagree without the bashing. I did note that out of the blue he said that Judge Strickland and NG knew each other. People have been wondering why she know longer talks about the case. Well, maybe somebody (like CNN) asked her to back off so it’s not considered a conflict for the good judge as media was saying awhile back that the defense wanted to question her as she seemed to know so much about the case prior to the public knowing.
Could this be the defense behind this to shut her up.
Blink, what do you think about the motion being signed and dated prior to Mr. Kronk’s depo. Are they going to go “oops, sorry, made a mistake with the date”. But really, the media interviews were already set up for the following day.
Kleat, still looking for GJerry Lyons.
What a mess. Really, what a mess. Are we to believe that the defense can lie, frame, ruin how many lives to protect someone like Casey Anthony who clearly murdered her child? Is there not anyone who can reign this in? This has become more than ridiculous. Quite the mess imo.
Ada, you’re right. The prosecution tried for a gag order way back last year. The defense fought it and won.
WSH, I completely agree with you that the timing & motive of Hornsby’s blog is highly suspect. I wonder what is really going on. Time should tell and in the meantime Hornsby has instantly lost any respect I ever had for him ~ which truly wasn’t much to begin with anyway.
it is nice to be back, thanks for being there friend!
1244 Comment by Chica — November 22, 2009 @ 7:12 pm
lol dee
glad to se eyour doing better my friend!!
lol about the laying on back comment. dee isnt this case taking a bazaar turn omg. incredible! unbelievable and etc etc
I just don’t get it, it is a complete freak show and I am about sick of it. Have they all forgotten a child was murdered and left to rot in the swampy woods, tossed out like garbage. This case is sick, wrong and haunting to say the least. I have to give props to the DA Office for keeping their cool. All I can say is God doesn’t like ugly and there are some mighty ugly people out there.
#1168–kleat—enjoyed the comment about the infamous Red Green. I know Baez and team read here. this is just as convincing as Roy Kronk. Why oh Why didnt the FBI investigate
Red too. He DOES have a past with duct tape too!!!! Very good and very to the point. Baez wants to be as famous as the “Twilight” author when he writes that book but his will be Twilight Zone”. great post everyone else too. Reading here always starts my Monday morning off good.
Bees
I meant that the timing of the motion and media tour was suspect, not Hornsby’s blog. Although Hornsby responds to Sheaffer’s opinion as though it was a personal affront. Hornsby offered advice to Baez in the past. Maybe, in part, this motion was recommended by Hornsby to Baez, thus the ruffled feathers and playground reaction; who knows?
Casey Anthony: WKMG promises ‘compelling’ interview with defense team at 11 tonight
posted by halboedeker on Nov 23, 2009
WKMG-Channel 6 is promoting an interview with Casey Anthony’s attorneys for 11 tonight.
What’s ahead?
“Tony Pipitone had the opportunity to ask the defense team what no one has had the chance to ask them directly,” station General Manager Skip Valet said. “Some are personal questions involving Casey. Some are more related to the strategy they could use in the courtroom. It will be compelling.” (Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Anthony.)
But does Pipitone get answers?
“He gets some answers, and he has some surprising moment with them,” Valet said.
Pipitone interviewed defense attorneys Andrea Lyon and Linda Kenney Baden. According to a promotional clip, Pipitone asks how the defense team is paid and whether it would be open to a plea deal for Anthony.
Why save the interview to 11 p.m.?
“Because it’s so good,” Valet said. “It’s something designed if you want something more on the story, invest in the 11 p.m. news.”
And it’s the November sweeps ratings period, so WKMG would like the lift an Anthony interview could provide to late-news ratings. The interview will follow “CSI: Miami.” “It would have gone well on any night,” Valet added, because CBS has so many crime dramas.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wkmg-promises-compelling-interview-with-defense-team-at-11.html
Check this out– does Ms. Rachel Lyon have publication rights for her next documentary, using Casey Anthony? Rachel Lyon– how about ‘Casey in the Lyon’s Den: or a remake of the story of Daniel’ for your third film in the series– make it a Trilogy!
“JUROR NO: SIX” premiered Fall 2008, just in time for Casey’s Case. One might call this case, defended by the Lyon’s den!!
Quote:
Emmy-award winning filmmaker Rachel Lyon had just finished ‘Race to Execution’, when it hit her. “The media’s role has fundamentally changed,” states Lyon. ” Far from merely reporting objectively on these cases, the media has become an active participant– directly influencing what jurors believe before they ever walk into the jury box.”
Unquote
Source: http://www.law.depaul.edu/centers%5Finstitutes/cjcc/pdf/juror_6.pdf
Say– would the Vatican have an interest in tossing a few coins into the pockets of DePaul for litigation expenses?
The shift has changed from helping the rush to execution of a black man in society, to using the same tactics to help a mother, one of lineage of three ‘Maries’, to be cleared of a heinous act of infanticide– what might be a good and necessary evil to make people understand a general wrong, is now being a full-out twist to the concept, to tamper with jury’s minds ‘before they ever step into the jury box’.
Say– would the Vatican have an interest in tossing a few coins into the pockets of DePaul for litigation expenses?
The shift has changed from helping the rush to execution of a black man in society, to using the same tactics to help a mother, one of lineage of three ‘Maries’, to be cleared of a heinous act of infanticide– what might be a good and necessary evil to make people understand a general wrong, is now being a full-out twist to the concept, to tamper with jury’s minds ‘before they ever step into the jury box’.
Imagine the profits ‘From Jury Box to Box Office’, for all the players, and for DePaul University as well, when the accused is free to use the Son of Sam to earn money all around.
Casey and her “Bullshit Walks…. “
#1282
I assume that this is the same Depaul.edu where A. Lyons and Mortimer Snerd ( I mean Smith) hail from. It really is all about the money isn’t it? I don’t anticipate that anyone involved will develop a conscience. It may be my own level of awareness but Casey Anthony and this circus are spawning more mothers who murder their children. If Baez tries this case in the media and Casey walks in spite of all this evidence, children will just become a commodity. I don’t think that Casey will be found not guilty but this really is so repulsive.
There was plenty of media on board for OJ’s trial but he, Robert Blake, Phil Specter were all famous before they murdered anyone. I can’t believe that a high school dropout and her sociopathic family have forgotten defenseless, little Caylee. I noticed that there were 30 more photographs of Caylee recently released. Cindy must have had them and released them to raise more money. (I guess the foundation is paying off). So much for her efforts to rehabilitate her sleazy image.
These people disparaging Roy Kronk are as credible as Casey and Cindy. Most of them are felons and their testimony won’t be allowed in the courtroom. Two of the women have almost as many charges of fraud as Casey herself. If an attorney is trying to make a name for him/herself, he/she should defend all these Anthony victims for defamation. It has gotten to the point that Morgan and Morgan should consider a class action suit.
I wonder what kind of juror Baez will be looking for.
hi dee
missed you and hope all is well with you. get ahold of me trough yahoo messenger or email me.
ok for the rest of you!! blinkers
lets keep the faith ! I just think baez is on a ego trip always has been! he loves to parade in front of the cameras and especialy loves being on tv shows. he has great visions of grandur! it is not true that he is the only hispanic thats done a high profile case! geez he is so full of himself AND !! that is whats going to send his client to death row. It is not about her if you watch and listen! its about him. When jane velez asked him questions about casey he totaly avoided and said well I cant answer for her. He was just present on her show but said nothing! much just wanted to be seen!! he has the rep of being arogant and financialy doing bazaar things to make money etc etc
he will be a failure with this case… casey is toast !!
dee your right cant get past the 31 days and the 911 call
I found my daughters car today! and it smelled like theres been a dead body in it!!!
Darth I am feelin you completely, this is exactly what I think…GREAT POST!!!
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-wkmg-promises-compelling-interview-with-defense-team-at-11.html
Posted by: Darth | November 23, 2009 at 01:40 PM
“I believe that Casey Anthony premeditated the murder of her daughter, Caylee in March 2008 as evidenced by the computer searches for chloroform, neckbreaking, shovel, missing children’s sites and the downloading of a video of One Tree Hill where a nanny matching the same description Casey gave law enforcement kidnaps a child.
I believe that Casey Anthony carried out her plan June 16, 2008 by chloroforming Caylee and then wrapping duct tape around her nose and mouth, wrapping her in her Pooh blanket, a hamper bag and a garbage bag and dumping her in the trunk of her car and then drove to meet Tony and rent movies of a murderer who left bodies in a trunk to get a thrill out of what she had just done.
I bel;ieve that Casey dumped the body in the woods and abandoned her car after the stench of decomposing flesh got so bad she couldn’t stand it.
I believe that since Casey Anthony is not a paying client and the only way her defense team gets paid is through publicity, the defense team cooked up a bogus motion as a media stunt so they get plenty of publicity.
I believe they deliberately didn’t put Kronk’s exes and sons under oath because they wanted them to lie and they had no intention of taking this to trial.
I think this latest smear of a state’s witness is sending a message to the prosecutors that they take the death penalty off the table or they will start digging into all the backgrounds of their witnesses and their attorneys and pull the same crap on them.
I believe that the prosecutor will screen jurors closely so that they get jurors who are tough on criminals and can see through the Dirty Tricks Brigade.
I believe that this will backfire on the Scheme Team and the judge may issue a Gag order and sanctions against them.
I also believe that Casey Anthony will be found guilty of first degree murder and be sentenced to death or LWOP.”
1281 Comment by Chica — November 23, 2009 @ 2:10 pm
please send me the digs when this airs…it will give me something to do tomorrow!
Hornsby did a lot of name-calling, my post was ‘snark’ about the whole thing– sure, Hornsby can argue the law, take his stand, say Schaeffer is wrong while he is right, but the name calling– immature as Hornsby’s boyish Richie-Rich looks.
I like the giraffe too, good choice, nice touch that zebra with the moveable legs too, but the sitting giraffe has CLASS! Now, the Lyons and their pride can be left out of the picture, as far as I am concerned.
Joan– I think we won’t find Gerry or Jerry Lyons easily– if he’s doing PI work, he’ll keep a very tight low profile I’d guess– that’s why he’s got Mort to do the public part.
Blink, hate to tell ya so, but check out that scarey picture front ‘page’ wesh. It’s back to haunt!! Bet the Anthony’s were feeding stuff via her into the set up back last year and learning from her what they could use– is she a suspect next along with her hubby? One more….
Lol. S E R I O U S L Y ??
Wow, the media lineup is staggering!! They timed the filing of the motion right– no time for Judge Strickland to consider it, they are making hay today too.
Judge Strickland may not have seen Rachel Lyon’s film about how media can turn a jury before it’s even seated.
1267 Comment by NancyS — November 23, 2009 @ 12:31 am
http://www.asecondbreath.net/
that was a very interesting site, thanks for posting that…I just want to know what that person is smokin, where to get some and if is it legal
j/k being a smart A$$
really though it was intersting to read a different perspective on the matter. Thanks, you don’t come across those blogs to often. I appreciate you finding that and sharing that!!!!
Ada says……
I wonder what kind of juror Baez will be looking for.
Granmomma says……one that is shy a few bricks having a full load.
http://video.foxnews.com/11857522/who-killed-caylee
do we remember when Mr. Baden was on the Good Boy Team?
correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t there vegetation growing through the remains and weren’t the bones scattered over a large area, how did that happen? from the Easter Bunny? NO the animal activity over the months scattered them. So are we idiots to believe that RK tossed the body in the woods and the bones rolled all over the place? The jury IMO would have to be completely outraged if this explanation was given to them at trial. COME ON NOW
Can’t wait to see who is next….
man I am moving to Orlando in hopes to being on his jury
It doesn’t matter at all, that any of this is trial-worthy. This IS the trial now, we just don’t have a judge, this is presentations to and for the jury, to establish a set of beliefs that are ingrained, untested and unchallenged, just accepted because no one challenges it. The state can’t do it, no one can. So it sticks in minds, as a truth, and that’s harder to ‘reset’ once someone becomes a juror. Even having heard all the evidence from both sides in trial, knowing what to, and not to consider, how to give things weight, the juror can default to their own beliefs if they need to make a hard decision of which fact to go with, what to believe.
jmho– but I think we are seening the defense’s ‘TRIAL’ right now, not necessary what we will see at trial, but what they want to do ‘FOR TRIAL’.
To Cindy’s little rant to John Morgan after her depo– another little ‘give the media an extreme bit of memorable video, and add in the concept of people against Cindy ‘praying’– anti religious people, exhibitionist, like JM (ala Dominic Casey’s documented words as JM being a threat to the Caylee Memorial service).
Cindy had the ‘get the media hyped and keep it going’ message early. Even the Casey defense ousted Oprah’s announcement Friday morning about her show’s retirement– one of the two big networks that had the lawyers on, held back Oprah’s announcement until AFTER the Casey lawyers stint, the other announced it first, then the lawyers got their spot.
Cindy got back at Oprah for cancelling on her! (oh, right, it was Cindy’s belief that it was she who cancelled on Oprah)
meant this–not his
http://www.wesh.com/video/21699844/index.html
does she reeeaaally? where is it then cause Baez would have sent this to his BFF Geraldo a looooong time ago and we would be watching it now!
http://www.wesh.com/video/21699844/index.html
how cute Casey and Andrea are matching…