Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Could The Chloroform Belong To George?
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Orlando, FL– I held out for George Anthony as the last hope to restore Caylee Anthony’s dignity in the beginning of this case.
When he visited OCSO on July 24, 2008, he was acting as Caylee’s JoJo, and not “Gelatinous George”.
I thought, ….maybe. I lost that bet. Whatever temporary empowerment Poppa Jo summoned to visit OCSO and retain famed Orlando attorney Mark Nejame outside of the Cindy tractor beam; George shed it like a snake.
When and Why?
I am on record since the Forensics reports indicating elevated levels of chloroform in the trunk air from Casey’s infamous white Pontiac were released: I have never believed chloroform played a part in Caylee’s murder.
I am among the minority.
While watching the Motions Hearing last Friday, I observed an expression of Casey Anthonys that distracted me from concentrating on the balance of the proceeding. It stuck to me like gum on the sole of my Ugg.
Casey glared like a shrew at the exact moment Jeff Ashton used the phrase “chemically restrained” in reference to what may have happened to Caylee to ultimately cause her death. Clearly, it was a thinly veiled reference to chloroform.
I thought, what a wildly inappropriate reaction to be followed up by her version of waterworks.
Maybe-not so much.
What if that hot mess in sea foam gave us a glimpse at her physical reaction to involuntary honesty?
We witnessed the sole reason for the motion to stop videotaping her. She will tell us everything we want to know under the right stimulus.
Chloroform, or the idea of same, enrages subject. The Teflon 100 pounder finally reacts to the metaphoric putrefactive odor in her own case.
Released September 26th, 2008 were the Computer forensics on both the HP desktop used in the Anthony home and the Compaq laptop used by Casey.
At first glance it is clear there is a considerable amount of data missing from the laptop findings. However, in contrast, there is a significant amount of data available for the desktop in both the unallocated and allocated sectors.
After scrutinizing the Internet Histories, Cookies, Fire fox and Safari reports I am comfortable saying that it is fairly easy to tell whether George or Casey was the surfer-in-session. Almost exclusively, Casey used Firefox which deleted her history on the surface and for the most part she left no cookie “crumbs”.
George might as well have posted his e-print on the borrowed mobile billboard.
George is as much a creature of habit on the web as he is on his lawn.
Apparently having not learned his lesson from his earlier web snafu-s, (Editors Note: Nigerian Internet Scam- My Ass.) George made no attempts to delete either his history or his cookies, as none of it was found in the unallocated sectors EXCEPT both sessions of the chloroform searches.
I know, your saying, Blink, WTH? You just told me Casey deletes, George does not, so which is it??
George was home on March 17th, the first search takes place:
In Comparison, from the Desktop following the above search on 3/17/2008:
Fast Forward to the next search on March 21st, 2008. As Time Sheets corroborate, George Anthony worked a 10 hour day, and was not home until after 5PM. This subsequent search is very different; superficial in contrast.
It is as if the query is “What is chloroform, as if I care?” as opposed to the “How do you make chloroform all-business-search on 3/17. In fact, the activity on 3/21 indicates a return to the last history, or point of fact, Casey is interested in what George was interested in when he plopped down on the computer after her, without opening a new window in Explorer, in this author’s opinion.
As you can see, the available (not in unallocated) space reflects none of Casey’s IM and myspace activity for the same day, which preceded the chloroform searches, and there is no further similar activity attributable to her for the 17th. It is however, (count the cookies with me) George’s M.O.
Did he just plop down at the computer after Casey leaves not realizing he needed to open a new browser? The activity of his after that leads me to believe he realized it and did exactly that, without erasing his “trail.”
What has this got to do with the chloroform? Plenty.
Sandwiched between a few of George’s dalliances: a fetish site, specializing in BDSM, www.alt.com (warning, not for Work viewing or in the presence of children, probably best before lunch.)
One of the topics discussed on such a site, is “breathe play” which is a form of autoerotic asphyxiation in which the use of Chloroform during such an event, or other forced gases or “poppers” like ethyl, butyl and ketamin is common. Yes, before you open another window and check the trunk sniffer report from Dr. Voss, you already know these were found in the air from the trunk.
To date, the FBI quantitative results from the sweepings from the liner, as well as the vacuums seized from the Anthony home have not been released. I suspect they will complete the findings here.
I could never figure out why George would seem “Ok” and almost resigned to Casey’s involvement in his beloved granddaughters death and then give us all whiplash with his support of the rotting pizza farce.
I believe Casey was on to him. She was well aware he was being “escorted” all over Orlando behind her Mother’s back. She told Amy Huizenga her Dad was cheating, her parents were divorcing, she was getting the house; because it was TRUE. She would see to it personally now that George was working 3–11 and making it nearly impossible to feign employment with a toddler on the verge of intelligible conversation, in tow. He began checking Caylee’s piggy bank, her account, asking Caylee about names Casey was using as associates in her *cough* work.
An obstacle indeed for a damsel in a blossoming romance with live baggage. Emphasis on the root word Damn.
It was divide and conquer time for Casey when Cindy finally seeks counseling advice on her situation. The only reason Casey did not pull the trigger on her faux patricide is because she met TonE Lazzaro. She waffled upon the uncertainty of his permanence. For a while, anyway.
In a scenario that allowed me to momentarily feel sorry for Cindy, I knew I needed to kevlar myself for any outcome. Given the circumstances of her own issues, it was not difficult.
So we find ourselves in the conundrum– How does the potential for George owning the chloroform shape up?
Let’s face it. If the sweepings and the cleaning gadgetry seized from the Anthony’s contain similar chemical/Bio to the trunk liner this is all over.
If it does not, the chloroform, ownership and acquisition of same, is paramount to this case. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, I have interviewed a FEMA Hazmat Biotech specialist and a Chemist PhD Fellow on staff at Johnson & Johnson. Both told me the amount of chloroform found in that trunk in conjunction with the etymology live cycle does not jive.
In other words, if we believe the chloroform was in the trunk as the murder weapon, or even dumped in it as a frame job prior to it’s abandonment on June 27, 2008, by their calculations, the degrading chloroform would act as an insecticide of sorts. At the very least, would not register so high in the air sample but very high in the composition found in the liner. Once chloroform is vaporized, In their opinion, a better explanation would be that chloroform was dumped in the trunk closer to when the car was picked up, or July 15. On July 16th it was impounded and placed in a climatic controlled environment. A stabilizer, if you will. Chloroform is also known to burn at very high temperatures. Given the levels, it is possible in the Flordia heat the amount of chloroform in that trunk might have combusted during the June 27th-July 15th timeframe.
George was emphatic about smelling decomposition in that car. He took the battery out and placed the deathmobile in the garage. Was he concerned it was a fire hazard now as well?
From a defense perspective, George is the perfect patsy. He Leaves gates open, irresponsible with the pool ladder, will lie about the last time he saw his daughter and granddaughter– twice.
Let me be clear. I do not think George Anthony would ever harm a hair on Caylee Marie’s blessed head. I also think he put himself in a position to defend Casey to save his own secrets, brought to his attention ex post facto.
Escorting by its latin name, P-R-O-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N, is illegal in Florida.
There is no doubt in my mind Mr. Anthony was schooled on what might be coming his way if he did not join the formation, pronto.
If there still is in yours, I have provided thumbnails for your perusal and nausea. Be sure and review the pattern of site stat checking, escort site, individual “prospects”, financial account transaction, and yes, in some cases, calendar booking and hotel reservations *trends*.
There’s more. I just did not have the stomach for it.
No wonder the Nigerian Pyramid or deposit scam sounded good to him. Consider the alternative conversation.
Images courtesy of Klaasend
Raw Excell reports courtesy of JWG
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Will be in and out all day. Just wanted to get a jump and wishing everyone and joyful and health New Year. Hopefully, we will finally get some peace and closure for our little Caylee.
To Blink and her team, thanks for sharing and giving us a chance to learn and state our opinions, agree/disagree with respect and sometimes humour or “snarkiness” as you say.
May God bless you and yours this coming year.
Chica- yes, agree to disagree! And who knows, perhaps I’ll join you on that side of the fense. I just don’t see her resentful of the money per se. At least right now. Resentful of their freedom, yes.
Suz, you are not alone. I don’t hate the Anthonys. If they want to make 10 grand off an interview, I could care less. I believe you’re correct…they don’t work. And they are a broken mess. They should have slapped the stupid out of her years ago. And don’t get me started on their reactions to Casey’s pregnancy. Certainly not typical of a healthy parental response to hearing that your unwed, uneducated teenage daughter is pregnant.
They’ve spend a lifetime assessing situations close to them, and punctuating them with inappropriate (and worse ineffective) responses.
You will like my new post then.
B
Blink, well said at #547.
When I was in the second grade, I told my Dad a boy at school had stolen a ring my Dad gave me and of course told me never to wear to school. I lost it. Told my Dad he stole it for his sister. Long story short, the boy had no sister. Not only did my Dad take me to the boy’s house to apologize to the family, the next day he took me to school to tell my class I was a liar. Was I humiliated by it? Yes, but worse, I was so sorry I had lied to my Dad. When I graduated from high school, my Dad gave me another ring just like it. I wear it on my little finger to this day.
Blessings to you and yours for a Happy New Year!
Happy New Year to Blink and everyone else here. I’m spending the evening babysitting my 20-month old granddaughter, Mia. I can’t think of a better way to ring in the New Year (even though we’ll both be sound asleep by midnight!).
Enjoy your evening with your blessing and HNY!
B
happy new year to everyone – hope 2010 holds answers to this hideous situation – thanks again Blink for this great site – maybe 2010 can finally bring an awakening to the truth
If Casey is punishing her parents for her own purposes, the trial would be the way to do it and there’s always the chance she could get ‘off’ IHOM (vs IMHO).
If the fraud case goes to trial, will the defense point out that the money was taken under a ‘time of duress’ (Casey’s own words) and that her own form for indigent status, proves that she admitted a 600 dollar amount owing as a debt, therefore that indicates that Casey recognized she owed the money and it wasn’t stolen with intent to ‘keep’ it or defraud anyone? Could that work?
Suz, you are so not alone, GREAT post thanks for finishing the year off with a BANG! you go girl!
The small portion of the depo that I could stomach watching again last night made me see how the A’s try to dominate every situation. Up til Caylee’s homicide I guess it probably always worked.
They seem to think it’s their right to decide what is pertinent.
They demand that certain words cannot be used.
They want to compartmentalize each incident so that a complete whole picture can’t be reasoned on.
It wasn’t only during the depo or LE interrogations that it happened.
When Tim Miller wanted to help,IIRC Cindy refused to give an item of Caylee’s for a scent because he wasn’t looking for “a live Caylee”.
Same thing kc apparently has done since the beginning. She has one story for each person. They are supposed to hear it and not try to connect any dots with any other version.
It’s no wonder that the family is consumed with anger. People aren’t responding the right way, LE didn’t play the game right and for sure at trial the prosecution isn’t going to.
Sometimes I get after myself for concentrating on GA and CA so much, but they have, in large part, been the catalyst for our interest/outrage. Whether or not they have been encouraged, they essentially have been speaking for kc. The far fetched explanations and on camera interviews are the way they can attempt to tell kc’s side. How do they even know what her side is now? Wonder how they will feel if they, including Lee, get thrown under the bus?
No worries on the Marci/Marcy/Marcia thingy. I thought it was funny how people seem to want what they don’t have LOL
As far as hating the Ants.. I don’t hate them and could never in a million years imagine what they are going through..That being said last night I happen to catch a little of Nancy Grace (clicking through because I have a really hard time watching her UHG) but anyway they were showing the depo she did for the Zanny case and I was so disgusted by her eye rolling and lies…. and her smugness. Just makes me sick…
Marci that prompted me to re-watch it was really painful but after the anger I felt pitty
For those of you outside the Orlando area, I have written many times on this site about my volunteer searches with Tim. The fact that my son was abducted at just under 2 by his father, and that the Anthony’s showed no signs of actually “looking” for Caylee, only in trademarking her name, setting up a foundation, and would only be cordial to those who were kissing their collective a@@ss. Having gone thru the kidnapping of my child and also having a degree in Psych, everything about them was wrong. I, my husband and our PI’s flew all over looking for my son. At that time in the 80′s police did very little in parental kidnappings, there attitude is that my ex would eventually realize his mistake and come back, which he did, but 15 years later.
I never set up a foundation, I wasn’t on TV begging for anything, of course, again times were different. But I’m going over this again to make my point.
They knew from 07/15/08 that Caylee was dead, everything from that point on was to distract attention from Casey, throw anyone else under the bus, and to start a line of income. I have no doubt that there are book deals, movie deals, and any thing else that could draw more money for them in the works. I can’t imagine during those first few years my son was missing going on a cruise, instead of using that money for something more important. I believe that Casey has had a strangle hold on this family for years, and that the baby was a purposeful pregnancy to further cement her ability to manipulate Cindy and George. I also believe that Caylee was the unfortunate child who suffered from this struggle of control between Cindy and Casey, and there was no one to protect her in what I feel was going to eventually happen. Casey would never give Caylee to her mother, she loathed Cindy and George, Cindy for her controlling and arrogant attitude, and George, for not being a man who could neither support his family, or control his wife. I also didn’t for one moment believe he lost that money gambling or on one of those Nigerian schemes. He’s not the sharpest pencil in the box, but he wouldn’t fall for one of those schemes, and he hasn’t shown any past gambling issues. I think the escorts are much more probable, and again, explains some of the comments said in the jail visits that didn’t make sense.
I can sympathize the Anthony’s loved Caylee, and mourn her loss, but their actions since 07/08 have been a dispicable display, and a complete lack of regard for that child’s life, death, and justice.
Thank you Pamela. I know that was not easy. You know better than anyone.
Your right of course, I feel very strongly in the next 2 weeks there is an opportunity to conclude this case appropriately. Very little faith it will, but I had to try.
B
pamela
couldnt of said it better myself.
well done.
Pamela, sorry for what you had to go through. My heart breaks for you and I can never know what you went through, only imagine. I hope that good came out of your experience and I agree that I cannot understand how the Anthony’s behave. They must have loved their grandchild, but it seems that out of sight, out of mind. Yes, Casey is their daughter, but sincerely, can they live with that if she were to win and be returned into society. Do they not realize that there lives will never be the same, never. Can they honestly believe that everything will go back to the way it was before? If so, they are if very deep denial.
I wanted to post a rebuttal to Mr. Hornsby’s site, but I see all the comments are closed. No way to post. Wonder what that’s all about?
Maybe he has realized it might be in his best interests to know who is posting that toxic sludge on the site that ends in richardhornsby.com, and not heckler or violette *cough* Mononette. Dunno.
B
I haven’t had a child kidnapped or taken from me…..but, I have lost mine for a split second in the department store and the panic you feel is tremendous.
Casey is guilty and the whole family knows it…..AND HAVE FROM DAY 1.
Have a safe and Happy New Year everyone!
#564 # Comment by Joan (Canada) — December 31, 2009 @ 3:23 pm
I wanted to post a rebuttal to Mr. Hornsby’s site, but I see all the comments are closed. No way to post. Wonder what that’s all about?
Maybe he has realized it might be in his best interests to know who is posting that toxic sludge on the site that ends in richardhornsby.com, and not heckler or violette *cough* Mononette. Dunno.
B
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Richard Hornsby says:
December 23, 2009 at 9:25 pm
This will be the final comment on my blog from anyone but me and from me anywhere but here.
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Does his reply mean that other people (other than Hornsby) were previously posting comments on his blog, in his name/on his behalf? Or, was he saying that there will be no more comments from ANYONE but himself on his blog?
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of a blog, to not allow any outside comments?
Excellent comments from all lately, Kleat, MJ, Silverspn, Suz, Chica Dee, Todd are all so interesting & observant especially about the Anthony’s deplorable behavior which shows no signs of improving. I don’t hate the Anthonys but my dislike is as intense as can be for people I’ve never met. I
The unforgivable for me is them attempting to frame innocents & all the lives they’ve ruined through framing others for their baby killer daughter. And like I said they have no remorse for their actions…latest victim…Roy Kronk. I will continue to loath the Anthonys because they will never see or admit to the error of their ways. They should be charged with obstruction, tampering, defamation…they are really bad…bad…people.
Blink is a class act…this website is an addiction I don’t need any other Caylee blog! I feel so bad for what’s happened over at RH. I want to protect Blink & it angers me when I see what he’s done to you & nice Mr. Sheaffer.
I’ll just say like all your other faithful I’ve got your back in spirit & this will pass. RH really should be Casey’s attorney..now that would be a match made in hell. Happy New Year & remember all the readers who care about you it’s more than you realize. All RH has is the ‘hecklers’, ‘renees’ & ‘violettes’ posting the same threats & ranting over & over.
HNY and thanks friend
B
Blink, lol. duh, it took him enough time.
I think maybe he should sign up for anger management program.
Thinker, I think Mr. Hornsby figured that posting a blog, nobody would dare disagree with his opinion and just take his word for gospel. Yes, I am always searching for knowledge on this case, but to ask a question and be treated as a dumb housewife, going for the personal attacks, because someone dare have an opinion other than his, well not my type of blog.
Blink, it’s the eye contact, just remember to ‘blink’!– or ignore might work even better. Does with dogs.
Comment by gloriadelamanana — December 24, 2009 @ 1:49 am
OMG! It’s like you went to pet a dog and it bit your hand. No more pets for that dog! lol
Lol. Maybe it was my approach- I am SOOO bad at that. Lmao.
Brilliant analogy.
B
Gina, you noticed the ‘Renee’s too… multiple personalities, those! Coincidentally, AVVO lawyer’s site for RH, has a Renee, one of RH’s criminal clients he got off. Maybe he’s soliciting his old clients to help him troll the sites!
I speculate that Hornsby is only paid, by whomever is paying him to do this meanie-blogging, through the end of 2009. He’s done whatever it is he was supposed to do in the time allotted. Contract’s up.
Or a deal of somekind was made with someone, somewhere. Dunno.
B
as it is almost 2010, i am happy to think that little Caylee will finally be ” heard ” and justice will come right soon – i have a little one that turns 5 on sunday and i cant imagine ever being without him – Happy New Year Blink nd Everyone, i look forward to learning alot more in the coming year – Thank you all for being on the “right” side of this and seeing it thru, especially Blink
Blink or Admin-
I was reading this at Scared Monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/01/01/congratulations-blink-on-crime-turns-1000000-visitors-happy-new-year/
Since I don’t read here because this crime stuff is way over my head, I wanted to verify those stats, which is what I do for a living. Congrats, btw, that is a major accomplishment in this genre.
I recommend you have your administrator or SEO coordinator take a look at your analytics in detail. You have a site that is riding your wave, so to speak, that also bans links to your site.
That is a MAJOR web no-no, and is the equivalent of pirating if your familiar with that term. I work in the biz so this takes money out of my pocket, so I will be glad to help you out with the details if you need them.
I do not have the first clue what your talking about, so thanks, I think, and I will pass it on.
B
Blink-
Just an fyi, I have never posted. I got back in town today, and back to my laptop and just saw the garbage that overgrown mall cop in a lawyer suit’s site. I am an attorney, practicing in Florida and 2 other states. I can tell you I do not want that guy representing any of us, which he seems to forget, as a member of the Florida Bar.
You may already know this, but the crap he posted about Baez’s bar complaint is bogus. He has no access to that file, so there is no way he could comment about it’s contents. He also apparently does not know the difference between “unfounded” vs. insufficient evidence.
Also- I do not see on here where you ever wrote about it, am I missing something, or was it deleted?
Translation: Short of you bringing us a photo of Todd Black handing him a wad of green in front of Suburban Drive prior to December 11, 2008 we are gonna let this ride.
Furthermore, I can tell you for a fact that the FBA is more worried about their own asses right now for letting him in after 8 years of denying him and within the first 3 he has this fiasco on his hands after defending the Mayor.
Are you kidding me this Ahole wrote a piece titled: R.I.P Bill Scheaffer, ESQ? What if one of his kids had his name on RSS feed, and that hit them in the face? He is out of control and an embarrassment to criminal law and the good citizens of Florida.
Lol, I want every reader or poster on there to file a complaint for receiving legal advice without retainer or establishment of Attorney/Client relationship. It won’t stick but he clearly did NOT review the rules and regs of the FBA with regard to online practices-
THEN I want his clients, if he has any, to go over their billables from him and check it against the many forums, his site he BLAAAAAAHHGGGS on all day and night and ask him when he found the time to be working for them or their case. I think ole Dickblowhard might not be such a loudmouth in a hurry.
What a waste of talent. Sorry to sound like a geeze, but this kid is the male version Veruca Salt.
If it is one thing I hate it is “man” bully picking on a girl.
It is clear he has a profound malevolence for women, and as you can see from my email, I am not one.
PolkaPeriesq-
I posted your comment completely unedited except I deleted your name and other contact information.
I hope you will understand I do not want to be a go between for this nonsense. If you have an issue as a colleague, you should handle it as you see fit. I respect your opinion and appreciate the support, but my focus is on a successful prosecution/resolution to this case for one person: Caylee Marie Anthony.
B
529.. Thinker Thanks for that link.
So Heckler at RH’s site is the infamous Clovis who trolls on topix?
#574 PolkaPeriesq
I can appreciate where Blink is coming from. From my perspective, your comment feels like validation for all the hard work put into this site. Thank you for stopping by!
You know him as Monoxide. Josh Melton. Fresh off Parole from his DUI. Well, at least that is what I heard, pure rumor of course.
B
I have heard that the death band on hair strands can occur as late as eight hours following death. However, I feel it is very possible that had Casey wrapped Caylee in the ducttape prior to death, some of the live strands may have been pulled out adhered to the tape also. This could prove premeditation IMO
I am having a very hard time imagining a scenario in which an escort would allow a “john” to use chloroform on her? We aren’t talking about crack-heads desperate for $5, we are talking about professional escorts and they would NEVER EVER let some freak use any kind of “homemade knock out drug”, i.e. chloroform, on them.
Just not gonna happen and it most definitely never happened bcuz the escorts would have come forward due to the publicity in this case.
Using the internet for sexual fantasy is extremely common amongst males.
Sorry I just don’t think for a second George made that chloroform to use on escorts. Chloroform is anesthesia used by rapists and killers, not a sex-toy.
Unless you are implying George was a rapist in his spare time then I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Respectfully, I think your opinion lacks research support.
B
cyn0matic — December 31, 2009 @ 9:12 pm
I speculate that Hornsby is only paid, by whomever is paying him to do this meanie-blogging, through the end of 2009. He’s done whatever it is he was supposed to do in the time allotted. Contract’s up.
Or a deal of somekind was made with someone, somewhere. Dunno.
B
Well, seems he also deleted not worth 2 cents worst comment, so either he did get a visit from Mr.Marley and company then saw the error of his ways…or you and/or Blink is correct. HNY
I just wanted to let
I have not been there. I look forward to an apology from Mr. Hornsby. Deleting on the web is not a dry erase.
I suspect that will be one of many things that will not remain on his site.
That’s all I have to say about that. Momma Cub. Don’t mess.
B
Blink… was reading some of the Forensic results. THC found on paper towel along with early human fat decomp. I am wondering was this secondary to second hand exposure for Caylee? The paper towel was not bloody so I would assume it was urine and early human decomp fat got on the towel while Casey was cleaning the trunk. Another idea was Caylee given a cannabis cookie?
577..Eastcoastdeb..Maybe they already have rooted hair, remenber the SA saying maybe the last face Caylee saw was her Mothers face. I love the way he delivered his lines.
New, I’ve also wondered if Casey’s hair got caught on the duct tape. If the tape wasn’t pre cut and Casey used her teeth to tear it, it would be very possible for her own hair to be caught on the duct tape also. Since it is so sticky, I think there’s a very good chance that either Casey or Caylee’s hair (prior to death) had adhered to the tape.
Hmmmm. I googled those names. Found one comment by Monoxide.(one comment regarding William Murtaugh’s interest in the case). It appears to be text book CLOVIS.
If he doesn’t have a license, it could explain his perpetual and abnoxious trolling all over the place.
I suspect Josh Melton, just like the bored houseswives, etc that comment on blogs who have nothing better to do, is in the same predictament. At least us bored housewives have something intelligent and useful to offer
http://beotchsmack.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/monoxide-the-microencephalic/
This dude is ‘allegedly’ sicker than I thought.
QUOTE:
While chatting in Leonard Padilla’s Ustream site during the late hours of Sunday, January 25th, Mono and fiends were performing their usual trained circus flea tricks, when Mono had an epiphany:
He decided that it would be uber lulzy to post a link to a site depicting an Anime of children engaging in sexually graphic scenarios.
Children. Engaged in sexual acts. Anime or not, this is vile and repulsive.
How anyone with two neurons and a single dendrite can find anything amusing in such vomitous material is far beyond what most people can possibly fathom, and an all time low for even a bottom feeder of fecal filth and decay like Monoxide.
UNQUOTE (from posted link).
Possible pedophile slathering his venom on sites that happen to involve CHILD MURDERS????? I think I am going to vomit!
Right? Lovely guy you want speaking for your site, huh?
Anyway, now that you know let’s get back to topic, as you can see said skeeve loves to see his name anywhere, so let’s not give him his wish. Which knowing you, you probably figured out already
B
I am having a very hard time imagining a scenario in which an escort would allow a “john” to use chloroform on her? We aren’t talking about crack-heads desperate for $5, we are talking about professional escorts and they would NEVER EVER let some freak use any kind of “homemade knock out drug”, i.e. chloroform, on them.
Just not gonna happen and it most definitely never happened bcuz the escorts would have come forward due to the publicity in this case.
Using the internet for sexual fantasy is extremely common amongst males.
Sorry I just don’t think for a second George made that chloroform to use on escorts. Chloroform is anesthesia used by rapists and killers, not a sex-toy.
Unless you are implying George was a rapist in his spare time then I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Respectfully, I think your opinion lacks research support.
B
Respectfully, I think your scenario lacks any evidence and does not pass the “is it possible test?”.
When in college 2 girls I knew in NYC worked as “specialist” escorts. I am going to be extremely frank bcuz this is where you are going way off track in your scenario regarding chloroform being used on escorts. These girls were the escorts you visit for “fetishes” not sex and the types of website George was visiting (bdsm) requires THIS TYPE OF ESCORT. Regular escorts only do “vanilla sex” and the bdsm/fetish escorts are the only ones engaging in this type of service.
This is the most expensive type of escort you can use. It would not cost George a few hundred dollars it would costs him thousands upon thousands. Prices for “regular” bdsm sessions would start at $500 and the wierder thing you want the more it costs. In order to get an escort to agree to be chloroformed would probably cost a minimum of $5,000 and even then the escort would insist on medical grade chloroform not something a random john made in his basement.
I’m just saying, your scenario is unlikely, especially without an escort coming forward or any evidence George was shelling out $5k per visit.
You may have researched his porn habits but you haven’t researched fetish escorts, which is what I suggest you do. Try calling escort services in Orlando, or anywhere, and tell them you want to chloroform one of their girls and see how many say NO, probably all of them, but if you can find one that says yes the price will be ridiculously high and there would be required supervision or filming. And no the girl cannot agree to such a thing on site, she has a handler with her waiting, anything “special” must be discussed and approved by the service.
Respectfully, there is no way in the world you did the research necessary on the sites George frequented, coupled with an understanding of computer navigations and forensics, user studies, etc.
Without an escort coming forward- are you kidding? You do realize that is illegal? I stated he visited a fetish site with some regularity, which is focused on bondage and S&M. Maybe he just learned about it and wanted to try it, as I covered in the piece. Lastly, I never once said he used chloro on anyone, or any escort, that was your inference.
B
BTW, the only reason a man would want to hire a prostitute and chloroform her is to “pretend” to be engaging in a REAL rape. Chloroform knocks people out, the escort would essentially be lifeless. That is why it would cost $5k or more and would require either supervision or filming bcuz no one would know what you were doing to the girl, including her, while she was unconscious. Not to mention chloroform kills people and just dumping it on a rag or injecting someone with it would probably end up accidentally killing them, yet another reason an escort would never ever allow a freak stranger to do this to them with homemade chloroform.
This is your opinion, but without so much as a reference source. No disrespect, but this isn’t even the point.
I can tell you unequivocally now way on the earth are these women in particular bringing in $5K a session.
B
I know from these girls EXACTLY what specialists charge. The two girls I knew made mega-bucks and lived in Manhattan proper and they mostly let guys puke on them never anything life threatening. In order for an escort to risk her life of course she would charge at least 5k, who wouldn’t?
As for George, just learning about it and wanting to try it…ok try it on whom????? Himself? He wanted to knock himself unconscious? Without a history of drug abuse or sexual deviancy that is a pretty far-fetched accusation to make based on a male’s fantasy internet sexual perversions.
Sorry George doesn’t strike me as a violent man or a man who secretly wants to knock women unconscious and rape them. Maybe I’m wrong, but why did he make the chloroform, and who was he going to knock out? You mentioned the escorts if I understood correctly and I am telling you that is highly unlikely if not impossible and I CAN ASSURE YOU it would cost 5k or more.
Who said anything at all about him wanting knock anyone out or rape them. You have lost me so I think it is best we move on from this, as I attempted to preciously. Your simply making things up that have never and would never be anything said or intimated by me. I am wondering if you even actually read the piece.
B
I can tell you unequivocally now way on the earth are these women in particular bringing in $5K a session.
B
I don’t see how you can even say something like that? Tiger Woods paid some of his mistresses a million a year. You don’t think rich guys pay mega-bucks to the escorts and mistresses?????
Some prostitutes are millionaires, some spend their money on drugs, some only do “vanilla”, some are specialists making $5k and up a session.
How much do you think the prostitutes servicing politicians are getting paid per session?????
Seriously, your comment is naive.
My comment is about George Anthony, in relation to the women whose sites I have painstakingly researched, not Tiger or other. Not even in the same zip code. We can agree to disagree.
B
I think what dawnsis is trying to say – and I have to say I agree – is that an escort agreeing to have chloroform used on her would be an extremely risky proposition. My imagination tells me that these ladies deal in fantasy all day (and night LOL) long and are willing participants in whatever the guy is willing to pay for. So I would think – and trust me I’m no expert in this field – that agreeing to participate in this very risky activity would cost a lot and would involve another trusted person for her safety. I don’t see this as something George could afford – but I can see someone acting out this fantasy (without the actual dangerous drugs).
These are just my thoughts.
True, I get that, but I am not suggesting he would have necessarily used it “on” someone. Maybe he used it alone ( as I intimated in the article and many links) or someone used it on him. Keep in mind, the fetish site is full of people that ENJOY THIS PRACTICE. He could have met someone on there. He could have just made it and never had the chance to try it. We just dont know for sure. All I am saying is you can’t make the leap, not enough info.
B
#584
Indeed Blink. I fell off my lil wagon. He doesn’t deserve the air play.
#585 Dawnisis
May I suggest you go back and re-read the piece? It is a detailed read and quite easy to ‘misread’ the information provided. I also kindly suggest you read the comments. You might find you’ll have a firmer grasp at what is being presented.
Cheers!
Blink,
What has happend at the be nice site? Anything past
the 16 coment is not in English? Thanks for the help.
Claud I have no clue what your talking about-
B
Blink Honestly what do you think is going to happen with this trial? Do you think the Anthony’s will finally give in and fess up and will there be the outcome we all want…justice for Caylee…
I know you are not a mind reader but just wondering what you think Thanks so much for your great work…..
Ok Blink. I get what you’re saying. I did a little uncomfortable search engine stuff on various forms of auto-erotic asphyxiation (whew!) and did not realize the full realm of possibilities for this type of fetish. I have now finished my application to enter a convent because apparently I qualify due to my total cluelessness. Going to take a hot shower!
I just found this website and I’m a new poster, please forgive me if I make any Internet etiquette blunders. Blink, this theory is nothing short of amazing….and 100% believable. I know you aren’t getting paid to be any type of investigator, but you should be due to the fact that you were able to wade through all this information and post it in a way that ordinary people like myself can easily understand. Well done, and thank you!
This is a response to post #586 Comment by dawnisis — January 2, 2010 @ 10:15 pm
>>BTW, the only reason a man would want to hire a prostitute and chloroform her is to “pretend” to be engaging in a REAL rape. Chloroform knocks people out, the escort would essentially be lifeless. >>
It never occurred to me that George was hiring escorts so he could use chloroform on them. I thought “breathe play” is practiced to enhance sexual orgasms. George probably didn’t put a lot of thought and consideration as to whether his escort is receiving a great orgasm, that type of behavior is usually reserved for couples in a committed relationship, something you really can’t have with a paid escort.
What I understood from Blink’s theory was that George was making (or attempting to make) homemade chloroform to be used on himself by the escort to enhance *his* sexual responses.
I could be wrong here, but I don’t think I am.
Welcome, and that was one possibility, I never theorized specifically on the who and where.
B
So Blink,you don’t think that maybe Casey knew chloroform was flammable and poured it in the trunk in hopes it would catch on fire after she abandoned it in hopes of destroying evidence? Love this site by the way. If she did not use the tape to kill her than what do you think happened?
Im not sure I think she is the one who poured it. As per the piece, I think it was dumped in the car closer to 7/15.
B
When she abandoned the car I mean.
Blink,
when I go to the be nice to the Anthony page,and when
I get to coment 16 it’s not in english? Maybe just my
computer it happend sometime yesterday evening. can’t
read a thing. Just wondering if anyone else may be having
this problem? Looks like German. Thanks
No idea, sounds like a settings issue, sorry.
B
Could George have used Chlorophorm on Casey? And Blink, do you think, that there is any truth to Casey saying to different people at different times, that George had abused her?
Blink,
Me thinks that George is a retired Choir Boy!
Wow…I have not read all of these posts..but Blink, I read your’s…all I have to say..felt like a brick fell into my stomach while reading…is this why when George comes to see Casey…it is as she is pure innocent and Caylee was nothing..he says things like…”hey beautiful”…”are you eating enough”….he is sickening sweet to her, that I want to throw up when I hear him speak..it just seems so unreal to me…If she would of been my daughter, it would of been every word about Caylee, where is she, help us, help us, find her!!!! Tell me this will not let Casey off the hook here? There needs to be justice for this angel!