Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Could The Chloroform Belong To George?
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Orlando, FL– I held out for George Anthony as the last hope to restore Caylee Anthony’s dignity in the beginning of this case.
When he visited OCSO on July 24, 2008, he was acting as Caylee’s JoJo, and not “Gelatinous George”.
I thought, ….maybe. I lost that bet. Whatever temporary empowerment Poppa Jo summoned to visit OCSO and retain famed Orlando attorney Mark Nejame outside of the Cindy tractor beam; George shed it like a snake.
When and Why?
I am on record since the Forensics reports indicating elevated levels of chloroform in the trunk air from Casey’s infamous white Pontiac were released: I have never believed chloroform played a part in Caylee’s murder.
I am among the minority.
While watching the Motions Hearing last Friday, I observed an expression of Casey Anthonys that distracted me from concentrating on the balance of the proceeding. It stuck to me like gum on the sole of my Ugg.
Casey glared like a shrew at the exact moment Jeff Ashton used the phrase “chemically restrained” in reference to what may have happened to Caylee to ultimately cause her death. Clearly, it was a thinly veiled reference to chloroform.
I thought, what a wildly inappropriate reaction to be followed up by her version of waterworks.
Maybe-not so much.
What if that hot mess in sea foam gave us a glimpse at her physical reaction to involuntary honesty?
We witnessed the sole reason for the motion to stop videotaping her. She will tell us everything we want to know under the right stimulus.
Chloroform, or the idea of same, enrages subject. The Teflon 100 pounder finally reacts to the metaphoric putrefactive odor in her own case.
Released September 26th, 2008 were the Computer forensics on both the HP desktop used in the Anthony home and the Compaq laptop used by Casey.
At first glance it is clear there is a considerable amount of data missing from the laptop findings. However, in contrast, there is a significant amount of data available for the desktop in both the unallocated and allocated sectors.
After scrutinizing the Internet Histories, Cookies, Fire fox and Safari reports I am comfortable saying that it is fairly easy to tell whether George or Casey was the surfer-in-session. Almost exclusively, Casey used Firefox which deleted her history on the surface and for the most part she left no cookie “crumbs”.
George might as well have posted his e-print on the borrowed mobile billboard.
George is as much a creature of habit on the web as he is on his lawn.
Apparently having not learned his lesson from his earlier web snafu-s, (Editors Note: Nigerian Internet Scam- My Ass.) George made no attempts to delete either his history or his cookies, as none of it was found in the unallocated sectors EXCEPT both sessions of the chloroform searches.
I know, your saying, Blink, WTH? You just told me Casey deletes, George does not, so which is it??
George was home on March 17th, the first search takes place:
In Comparison, from the Desktop following the above search on 3/17/2008:
Fast Forward to the next search on March 21st, 2008. As Time Sheets corroborate, George Anthony worked a 10 hour day, and was not home until after 5PM. This subsequent search is very different; superficial in contrast.
It is as if the query is “What is chloroform, as if I care?” as opposed to the “How do you make chloroform all-business-search on 3/17. In fact, the activity on 3/21 indicates a return to the last history, or point of fact, Casey is interested in what George was interested in when he plopped down on the computer after her, without opening a new window in Explorer, in this author’s opinion.
As you can see, the available (not in unallocated) space reflects none of Casey’s IM and myspace activity for the same day, which preceded the chloroform searches, and there is no further similar activity attributable to her for the 17th. It is however, (count the cookies with me) George’s M.O.
Did he just plop down at the computer after Casey leaves not realizing he needed to open a new browser? The activity of his after that leads me to believe he realized it and did exactly that, without erasing his “trail.”
What has this got to do with the chloroform? Plenty.
Sandwiched between a few of George’s dalliances: a fetish site, specializing in BDSM, www.alt.com (warning, not for Work viewing or in the presence of children, probably best before lunch.)
One of the topics discussed on such a site, is “breathe play” which is a form of autoerotic asphyxiation in which the use of Chloroform during such an event, or other forced gases or “poppers” like ethyl, butyl and ketamin is common. Yes, before you open another window and check the trunk sniffer report from Dr. Voss, you already know these were found in the air from the trunk.
To date, the FBI quantitative results from the sweepings from the liner, as well as the vacuums seized from the Anthony home have not been released. I suspect they will complete the findings here.
I could never figure out why George would seem “Ok” and almost resigned to Casey’s involvement in his beloved granddaughters death and then give us all whiplash with his support of the rotting pizza farce.
I believe Casey was on to him. She was well aware he was being “escorted” all over Orlando behind her Mother’s back. She told Amy Huizenga her Dad was cheating, her parents were divorcing, she was getting the house; because it was TRUE. She would see to it personally now that George was working 3–11 and making it nearly impossible to feign employment with a toddler on the verge of intelligible conversation, in tow. He began checking Caylee’s piggy bank, her account, asking Caylee about names Casey was using as associates in her *cough* work.
An obstacle indeed for a damsel in a blossoming romance with live baggage. Emphasis on the root word Damn.
It was divide and conquer time for Casey when Cindy finally seeks counseling advice on her situation. The only reason Casey did not pull the trigger on her faux patricide is because she met TonE Lazzaro. She waffled upon the uncertainty of his permanence. For a while, anyway.
In a scenario that allowed me to momentarily feel sorry for Cindy, I knew I needed to kevlar myself for any outcome. Given the circumstances of her own issues, it was not difficult.
So we find ourselves in the conundrum– How does the potential for George owning the chloroform shape up?
Let’s face it. If the sweepings and the cleaning gadgetry seized from the Anthony’s contain similar chemical/Bio to the trunk liner this is all over.
If it does not, the chloroform, ownership and acquisition of same, is paramount to this case. Speaking on the condition of anonymity, I have interviewed a FEMA Hazmat Biotech specialist and a Chemist PhD Fellow on staff at Johnson & Johnson. Both told me the amount of chloroform found in that trunk in conjunction with the etymology live cycle does not jive.
In other words, if we believe the chloroform was in the trunk as the murder weapon, or even dumped in it as a frame job prior to it’s abandonment on June 27, 2008, by their calculations, the degrading chloroform would act as an insecticide of sorts. At the very least, would not register so high in the air sample but very high in the composition found in the liner. Once chloroform is vaporized, In their opinion, a better explanation would be that chloroform was dumped in the trunk closer to when the car was picked up, or July 15. On July 16th it was impounded and placed in a climatic controlled environment. A stabilizer, if you will. Chloroform is also known to burn at very high temperatures. Given the levels, it is possible in the Flordia heat the amount of chloroform in that trunk might have combusted during the June 27th-July 15th timeframe.
George was emphatic about smelling decomposition in that car. He took the battery out and placed the deathmobile in the garage. Was he concerned it was a fire hazard now as well?
From a defense perspective, George is the perfect patsy. He Leaves gates open, irresponsible with the pool ladder, will lie about the last time he saw his daughter and granddaughter– twice.
Let me be clear. I do not think George Anthony would ever harm a hair on Caylee Marie’s blessed head. I also think he put himself in a position to defend Casey to save his own secrets, brought to his attention ex post facto.
Escorting by its latin name, P-R-O-S-T-I-T-U-T-I-O-N, is illegal in Florida.
There is no doubt in my mind Mr. Anthony was schooled on what might be coming his way if he did not join the formation, pronto.
If there still is in yours, I have provided thumbnails for your perusal and nausea. Be sure and review the pattern of site stat checking, escort site, individual “prospects”, financial account transaction, and yes, in some cases, calendar booking and hotel reservations *trends*.
There’s more. I just did not have the stomach for it.
No wonder the Nigerian Pyramid or deposit scam sounded good to him. Consider the alternative conversation.
Images courtesy of Klaasend
Raw Excell reports courtesy of JWG
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Whatever RH’s motivation in the childish war of words will eventually be a non issue. Blink’s research will either stand on it’s own merit as being truth, as the most logical conclusion for who was responsible for the computer use at that time or it won’t. The prosecution has the experts and resources to present a reasonable argument about ZFG or the chloroform searches and IMO it will likely show that Blink has been on the right track.
In the meantime, the scramble of folks yelling to be heard gets louder because everyone wants a piece of the Caylee pie. Notoriety and money is the name of the game. The more sensational the accusations the better. It’s interesting that lately the chit hitting the fan is more personal attack than professional disagreement about case theory. It’s the street fight mentality that has been part and parcel of this case from the minute it began. Slamming anybody is fair game to them and if a nerve touches something close to that scary realm known as truth, go for the jugular and accuse them of anything and everything. Intimidate anyone who has the steel to try to find the answers.
The internet has been the boogey man for the A team. The dreaded bloggers have the gall to not swallow the party line and what’s worse, actually discuss openly how stupid it is! Bloggers seem to be the hot commodity right now, this case will not be decided on how many bloggers like which forum. RH and any others that follow him that think they can elevate themselves by a smear campaign via the web are mucktards. If possibly the prize is to get the notice of kc and be part of her defense , it would be a match made in liar heaven, however additional oxygen may need to be pumped into the court room, that much hot air in a small space …..
You hit on the heart of the issue, imo.
One of my respected and dear friends is a criminal defense attorney. It is his opinion that there field seriously underestimated the power of the “Blog” in discussions and research in these cases. This is truly groundbreaking and probably would never have hit this height it has, if there had been a gag order in this case. They are used to “controlling events.”
The sunshine laws in Florida, coupled with the age of better databases, skilled research teams with multiple disciplines is going to be respsonsible for having a heavy impact in the outcome of this case. Combatting that from a criminal defense attorney’s perspective, makes it harder for them to win cases, and erodes their profit margin when they are forced to employ significantly more research and resources not covered in the LexisNexis base.
Beginning next week, this case is going to hit a crossroads.
The scrambling we are seeing is in effect, the lifting of the rock and subsequent scurrying for a new one.
I welcome healthy and respectful debate from any person that feels differently at the end.
# Comment by Kleat — December 27, 2009 @ 2:48 pm
Blink, could be that Mamamook was referring to your message from Red, which was posted by you to share. (Mamamook, it’s not a deception thing, we all know who Red is, we’ve read Red
I haven’t the slightest idea who Red is. I honestly don’t follow the case, players and/or the “injectees” if you will, all that closely. I just know there is a lot of drama involved. I do know Blink has come up with some wild theories in the past and I happen to agree with Mr. Hornsby (and others) about it being for her own personal gain. I do feel sorry for her as this has obviously consumed her life and have merely stated my opinion on a public blog as have all of you.
You are in no position what has or has not consumed my life, are you kidding?
What facts do you offer to refute my “wild theories”? I am all ears. What Personal Gain?
I keep hearing this crud with nothing to back it up. You have made your opinion, based on how many pancakes it takes to shingle a doghouse, clear.
B
Mamamook, take a look at Richard Hornsby’s online ‘interjections’. 100 YouTube videos on his own YouTube site, at last visit, all were his legal expert opinions on a multitude of main stream media videos, from Fox, to WFTV, to WESH and so on. Mostly Casey Anthony related (approx. 88 of 100) and the rest, other high profile cases.
Look at his Avvo link, there are about 34 videos, or is it 33 with a photo of himself in grand style advertising himself to call if charged with a crime.
And look at his own statements about how he’s marketing himself for the long term via the internet resources. WHO is the one who is gaining? No, no advertising, and he’s not been ‘paid’ so he says, by any media outlet for his opinions, but the gain is tremendous, in exposure for ‘marketing’.
That is payment too– big time.
Two sides, my dear, two sides.
Blink, after reading your response (#394) all I could think of was, silly me..and I thought the whole objective was to find a child’s killer responsible. When it all unfolded, in my mind it didn’t matter who it was, it mattered that the person who did the crime pay for it, justice and all that. Now, I see it clearly. The game of defense really doesn’t rely on truth, it’s all strategy. It’s a shell game but like you said the interest and resources of blogs and people like yourself have altered the Defense’s ability to control the event.
The funny part to me is that whenever the ‘darkside’ attempts to manipulate the public opinion all they really have going for them is below the belt, attack the messenger, tactics. All the blogger world in this case didn’t just wake up one morning and decide to hate kc. Fact after fact, evidence confirmed, reasonable deduction from intelligent, interested people is how it happened.
They can scurry from rock to rock but the slime and bugs are still going to be there. From now on, especially in Fl., defense attys. will have to work a little harder. I hope the RH experiment is not the standard to follow cause in my mind it’s a failure. Keep up the good work, girl. There are gazillions of us who have no dog in the fight, all we want is truth.
Thanks MJ-
I would say for most of us this has been quite the education, good and bad.
B
Dear Blink,
You wrote:
You know, I agree. I got an email with an analyst comparison and timestamps. I think this is an actual campaign, more to follow.
B
Am I misunderstanding you or are you working on an article to address this? TIA
My New Year’s resolution with all this crud is to make sure I don’t misinterpret others words.
No Mom, not an article, thanks for asking for clarification and I think your resolution is a great idea for me too!!
B
I have been coming to this site for about a year, ever since I took a (sudden, unexpected) interest in crime/abuse issues, due to personal crime/abuse issues in my own life.
After checking out many links/sites I settled down here because I have found this site to be NOT about personalities but about case study, different angles and opinions derived from everyone’s different experience brought to thinking about and studying these cases. I have never felt that we as readers/commenters had to pledge allegiance or follow blindly behind Blink’s theories or wear Blink buttons, there is always healthy debate here, very little snark and a pleasant atmosphere for thinking.
All this RH stuff is making me a little bit annoyed and resulting in me eating too many holiday chocolates. I hope it goes away soon.
Bravo, lol.
I have it on good authority we will be back on task, toot sweet.
B
Kleat
hahaha even I know who red is. He is one of S.M moderators I think anyways its ok cuz haf duh time I am lost too.
hang in there blink
your doing a good job and it seems like theres alot of jealousy that alone should be flattering.
Lol, Red is the owner and Editor in Chief of Scared Monkeys and my dear friend.
He pioneered missing persons blogging as well as the migration into true crime.
His expertise or passion I should say, is the Political Arena, but always wanted to create an original content true crime site. My chocolate fell into his peanut butter and blinkoncrime was born.
B
Just getting caught up from the holidays so forgive me for showing up late with my opinion and thoughts on this whole Hornsby matter….seriously what business is it of Hornsby or anyone else for that matter if Blink does or does not make money from her site? This is American the land of opportunity and if she does happen to profit from a few ads on her site then so be it. She provides a service that I and lots of other readers enjoy. Should she just give her time, research, bandwidth, etc. away b/c we the public feel like we are owed something. Absolutely not. She puts in a lot of work here and I do not begrudge her one cent of any money she may or may not have earned from ads. If anyone has a problem with Blink’s content then there is a real simple solution…don’t read here. Stay on your own blog and then you won’t have to worry about Blink and her “wild theories” you will have more free time to concoct your own.
Blink…keep on keepin on sista!
Sal, many thanks, friend.
B
Um yeah! About time someone else got it besides me! There’s more on GA, believe you me! Timing of his first day on the job verses Caylee “Missing”. It has always been my opinion that Casey was kicked out of the house and Caylee was left behind, leaving GA to babysit…I can go on and on but it’s a waste of time anymore….
Good post blink
well I just had to add my ‘voice’ to the chorus,I also read your articles, and ALL the comments here, such a wonderful place for Justice. Well Done Blink and all the blinkanators!!! Most of the time i say HUH?? and then reread and reread, my refresh button is dang near worn out. dont spell so swell, but I can read. Thank You.
If Hornsby thinks blinkers moronic,then why does he repeat what has been discussed here ages ago as his latest discovery? Day late and a dollar short.
My favorite was that I was jealous of his piece. ROTFL. I can honestly say I have never been jealous of my own work. I have never been jealous of something or someone. I have admired many and hoped to model my work after their “lead”, but I never felt like if I worked really hard or focused my efforts similarly, that I couldn’t accomplish the same thing.
Maybe a flaw in my wiring, but how I was built.
B
This site is a place where every one is equal and all opinions matter. (A true democracy). BUT I can see conspiracy everywhere. I think my washer and dryer are conspiring to make me think I have gained weight! I really believe there are some really “hinky” things going on as per Blink’s and MJ’s posts.
I think the defense truly hoped that the State would argue that Casey killed Caylee with chloroform. Then the Perry MAson moment when George says it was he. When Blink revealed that George could have been the culprit, The Lyon’s defense strategy was again derailed. Going after Valhall and Blink with the assistance of Hornsby (for whatever his association to the defense might be) is a desperate measure to keep B and V from continuing to undermine the defense “blog” strategy.
Hello to all and Blink
Blink do you think anyones cell phone records other then Casey’s will be important on the day she left the car at Amscott. I don’t know why I keep thinking that they will be. If I remember right she left the car and then came back with the frozen food. If I remembered that right then who picked her up and brought her back.
hugs
I am appalled that the jail is not supplying the prisoners a green vegetable for Christmas Dinner. LOL. I want KC healthy for her trials and if she becomes ill from an unbalanced diet….well that would not be good. I suggest brussel sprouts. 3 times a day.
Thank you so much for your site. I have been reading your blog daily since I accidently found Hinky Meter while looking for info regarding our mass murderer here in Cleveland.
Keep up the good fight, I for one appreciate it.
Hello Sal. Re comment 408:Thanks for the advice, but I don’t have my own blog nor do I concoct wild theories. I leave the leg work to LE and the justice system in general.
And Miss B, I could easily bring up docs that prove some of your wild theories were just that … Jose Baez and the Bar is one. The Scamanthony debacle is another. That, however, is all over the Internet and I’m feeling lazy today … just needs a Google search.
Well, I’m done. Just giving my opinion here like everyone else. Thanks for the opportunity to speak my mind. Good luck and Happy New Year to you all.
Well since I wrote them, I do not need to google anything. You and I have a difference of opinion on the definition of debacle. As you stated first, you dont like me, consider your angle in your comments.
B
Blink [or anyone] ~
Do you know if Judge Strickland ever ruled on the defense motion to allow in Roy Kronk’s prior bad acts, as detailed by his ex wives & girlfriends? I find nothing anywhere indicating Strickland ever ruled on this.
Thank you! It’s been bugging me.
lol, kyrasmommy, i get you now. Thought you meant a john would come forward, for the notoriety or infamy or something, lol. A friend makes more sense. I’m not seeing her turning tricks, tho. She’s too broke all the time.
#401 Comment by MJ — December 28, 2009 @ 3:21 pm
The internet has been the boogey man for the A team. The dreaded bloggers have the gall to not swallow the party line and what’s worse, actually discuss openly how stupid it is! Bloggers seem to be the hot commodity right now, this case will not be decided on how many bloggers like which forum. RH and any others that follow him that think they can elevate themselves by a smear campaign via the web are mucktards.
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You are spot on! Cindy has always loathed bloggers because of that thing unknown & frightening to her…the truth! She has no control over us & it’s killing her…& may help to nail Casey’s coffin shut tight!
Blink, Joanne might be referring to Hornsby’s comment to the effect of (not quoting) that in his target list, Schaeffer, etc, I remember something very like “but first Baez”.
I’m not watching his antics over there, but I recall something close to this in his recent articles.
Hornsby and the other defense lawyer you referred to (grey haired gent, was commenting on the case last year, said his office wouldn’t have handled things as Baez did) were together (Hornsby might call that ‘associated’) on the same media set. Not sure if that lawyer is behind the scenes with Baez or not, if so, then that could be an ‘association’ of Hornsby and Baez, vis a vis this other lawyer. (now what WAS his name, I’ll think of it– oh yes, Cheney.
Blink, thank you for “getting” what I was trying to say in post #396. You have no idea how much I count on YOU and so many others to help me keep these facts all straight, how to analyze all this information but most of all how to keep it all straight, in order and then to have us all recall the most minute detail from way back and bring it back and make it all fit. You my dear Blink are MY Binkin in such a hail storm.
Staying on topix of george not RH although I sooo want to go there!
In Lee A depo, he was shown a picture of george with a woman. Lee was asked if he ever saw her before and he said NO I thought this was significant or why bother to ask. Did Cindy know about her?Did Casey?
Cindys question to Casey in jail “why didn’t she pick up the car?” Has always stumped me, we could assume that she was talking about the nanny or maybe not
I am absolutely positive that Hornsby is paid for by the defense. They’re getting desperate and obvious.
I guess we will see as his posts develop..
B
Blink..any idea about who the lady in the pic is? Or should I know better than to ask
Good work Joni (380). I’ve been saying since the first slam on Sheaffer that Hornsby is nothing more than a paid troll for the defense. Could it be any more clear? The trolls have been popping up everywhere, have you noticed? It is so easy to spot them ~ all you have to do is listen to what they’re saying. Easy.
Blink and Kleat,
Yes, I was referring to the connection between Baez and Hornsby.
Hornsby posted an email exchange between himself and Baez in July of 2008 concerning this case. Of course, RH only posted Baez’ request for help, and his (RH) complete initial reply (“you asked for it….what you SHOULD be doing”)tooting his own horn, per se. He did not share Baez’ second reply or subsequent conversation.
This took place on a listserv for criminal defense attorneys.
I would be very, very interested in seeing the full conversation between the two, and wondered if you had?
Certainly appears to me that it is possible that Hornsby had high hopes that Baez would realize that he needed RH “expertise” and he could instigate himself in this high profile case, but Baez doesn’t appear to have wanted to share any of the limelight, at least locally. Initially in this case, RH seemed to support Baez publicly (as media legal consultant), but then turned completely nasty, repeatedly referring to Baez as a “moron” as well as other personal attacks. So RH turned to Plan #2….one way or another, he was going to make sure his name was related to this high profile case!
MJ, I think you hit the nail on the head with “The internet has been the boogey man for the A team. The dreaded bloggers have the gall to not swallow the party line and what’s worse, actually discuss openly how stupid it is!”
Does anyone else find it strange (or perhaps ironic?) that to date, Richard Hornsby has launched heinous, brutal public attacks, both professional and personal, on ONLY other criminal defense attorneys, his “brothers” in their Criminal Defense Association? (keeping Blink the exception here…I am still convinced, Blink, that you merely stepped in the way of what he believed was momentum).
To date, I have not read a single comment or posting of his that are in any way critical of any members of the prosecution team, LE, or OCSD. While he claims he does not know Linda Drake, he speaks very highly of Jeff Ashton.
Makes one go hmmmmm……
Joni~ back atcha with a spot on. Cindy is frightened and confused by the truth. It seems to be unknown territory for her.
This whole frenzy about this case evolved in part because of the loud incessant lies spewed by all of them. Cadaver dogs are a joke. Sweat can turn into decomp. Searches for chlorophyll morphed into chloroform. Those pictures were from another decade. Oops, wrong hairbrush. Casey is a wonderful mother. I didn’t know she was pregnant. Not that ZFG, the 10 ZFG. She went to work everyday. She never stole from us. I can’t remember who Caylee’s dad is but we have papers saying he doesn’t want any custody. Smells like a dead body, dead squirrels and rotten pizza. We don’t take a salary from the foundation but omit the administration disbursement, same diff. I can remember the minutia of the last outfit my granddaughter was in.I didn’t know that those bracelets were inside of kc’s socks. Tod who?
IT goes on and on..
Sprinkle in the Baezsvengali method of defense, only he has the key to this mystery and will only reveal it in the much awaited a ha moment at trial. That kind of schoolyard taunt only makes people want answers and proof now. It makes people dig deeper and look for explanations of the reports.
Any wild theories that get tossed into the mix get the same scrutiny as the wild unbelievable statements from all of the casey camp. It’s virgin territory for them to have others bother to seek answers, not just ponder their last media sound bite.
Somebody should seen the value in a gag order but noooo, all that tv facetime and the dream of the A’s being the much sympathized, grieving grandparents too hard to pass up. Too bad it’s backfired on them, they all lie and none of them get my sympathy at this point.
Crab puffs anyone?
oops old story sorry,i guess i missed it the first time.
“Slamming anybody is fair game to them and if a nerve touches something close to that scary realm known as truth, go for the jugular and accuse them of anything and everything. Intimidate anyone who has the steel to try to find the answers.”
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First time posting Blink & i’m compelled to do so in support of your tireless efforts on Caylee’s & many other people’s behalf. This RH comes off as jealous at best or as just one more ring in this circus of a defense case taking the spotlight off Caylee & the monster who murdered her. Only two reasons i can think of for doing it & one is ego (not about caylee) or he/they are part of the Anthony machine who’ll do anything for a distraction to take the focus off Casey the baby killer they created.
Welcome and Thank You Angie. The more we research, the more this appears contrived.
Interesting, that out of all the folks in this case that have retained representation, not one of them hired him.
B
I’ve been on a hiatis from the internet & just checked in @ Blink. This message is for “Chica.” We are what I call “Birthday Buddies.” My Bday is December 27th, too. So, HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I hope you had a good one. I sometimes find bdays a challenge, after Christmas let down, end of the year, questioning what has preceeded and follows, you know all that heavy duty thinking stuff. Anyway, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BIRTHDAY BUDDY! Sharai
#421 Midwest Mom. Re Cindy’s question “Why didn’t she pick up the car? Makes no sense.” reminds me that, sometime in the past, a disagreement on some sites came up as to what Cindy actually said. Some heard “Why didn’t she…” while others heard “Why didn’t cha…” (meaning “you”, i.e. Casey).
What one hears obviously makes a big difference in how one interprets Cindy’s question. I heard “she” and figured Cindy wanted to know why Zanny had not picked up the car. By that time, Casey had time to associate Zanny with that car smelling of decomp.
If one hears “che” or “cha” as in a slurring of the words “Why didn’tcha…”then one may interpret that as Cindy asking Casey why SHE didn’t pick up the car.
Since both Casey and Cindy are “performing”, knowing that they are being taped, I don’t know if any of it means much more than an act.
Cindy spoke to Casey everyone of the 31 days. On the 15 of June when Cindy called Casey with the information about the car. Casey told her she ran out of gas that she did not abandon the car. That she, Casey had run out of gas and she had left a note on the window. Read that in transcripts. That’s how George knew about Amscot and that the car needed gas. Read the phone trascripts of George, Cindy and Casey on June 15th.
After which the Anthony’s started to spin the story. Saying Jessie had a key to the car. Jessie was the first person Casey called from Amscot, she got picked by Tony. When Ann Downing went to visit Casey they spun the story that it was possible that Jessie was some how involved cause he had a key to Casey’s car. Ann Downing said just that in her statement to LE. That she did not trust Jessie and he had a key to Casey’s car.
Not to beat a dead horse but Dick Hornsby’s latest blog about Baez is a big yawn…Blink I’m sure has been there…done that better long ago…it’s just the SSDD. Dick can’t get attention unless he’s causing problems because his articles on their own merit are zeros.
#433. thankyou for that – it ties it all back together BUT what in your opinion then is the comment about that refers to finding his daughter but NOT his granddaughter…if they had spoken every day then she wasn’t lost….. and at that point my understanding was they supposedly had not seen her as this was before Cindy went to Tony Lazzaros and got her???
#434 and #435 BTW please ignore my weird out of sync posting times – I am posting all the way from New Zealand and it shows me as being online later than you when in fact I am online at the same time in this case at 9.33pm our time =)
I believe congratulations are in order. Blink you’ve successfully been annointed an Original Content True Crime Site. That being said, why is this annoying to other bloggers? When you allow all of our theories and doc discussions, albeit some a tad off base,and your stories written in a cryptic style, these pairings allow us to impart a sleuthing slant and keep the synaptics firing in different parts of our brains. And keeps us coming back for more.
There’s no need for you to be jealous or ever doubt yourself Blink. You’re wired perfectly flawless.
It’s called H U M I L I T Y. Something, R(unhumble)H doesn’t know anything about. I hope his father in attorney heaven, or where ever they go when they pass over, is proud of his son. I’m also glad all professionals in my family have been MD’s. A much softer lot. It is my belief that RH is inflicted with an infestation of fecalitis in his circle of willis. Perhaps this coupled with envy is what is causing him to appear green. But since he “Thinks” his excrement has no odor, I guess it doesn’t really matter.
I would love to see you “86″ one of the newest posters to the board. They are just “ugly”.
P.S. I LOVE PEANUT BUTTER CUPS & BLINKS PLACE.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Lol, thanks friend, much appreciated. I saw your follow up to this post first- can you imagine?
A needed chuckle. Woot Woot.
B
MJ
#428
BAM! and then another BAM!
Blink, I failed to explain something in last post. The “circle of willis” is the most central area of the human brain. Something on the order of (chit 4 brains) !!!
#421 · Comment by Midwest Mom — December 28, 2009 @ 10:32 pm
Staying on topix of george not RH although I sooo want to go there!
In Lee A depo, he was shown a picture of george with a woman. Lee was asked if he ever saw her before and he said NO I thought this was significant or why bother to ask. Did Cindy know about her?Did Casey?
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Are you talking about the depo that Lee gave the State? Or the depo Lee gave to Zenaida’s attorneys? Or a LE interview? Do you have a link to the depo please?
In Lee’s State depo, he was shown a picture of the MySpace page that had the cropped photo of Caylee in the Big Trouble shirt.
Joni ~ “Dick” Hornsby, LOVE it. He’s a whiny little beotch. Never liked him before, don’t like him now. I knew something was up with him when he started attacking Bill Sheaffer. Bill-friggin-Sheaffer!!! Like . . .
really?!???
Bees-
Love ya, but please, stay clean
B
I am going to remain out of the fray. However, I will say that with frequency I am opposed to Blink’s theories, including this latest post, but my responses are permitted to stand. So in that manner, I have not experienced any black-outs in terms of disagreements. I can not speak to other people’s experiences. If there is something posted that I am truly uncomfortable with, I will often not respond to it. I am uncomfortable with some items that are not necessarily germane to the case, but may be personally embarrassing. I give the benefit of the doubt that there is belief in the theories vs. an attempt at character assassination or for the purpose of sensationalism alone.
I know I have disagreed with others and have become infuriated with some antics of players in the case. And if I have “scorched” anyone in the past, then I would like to offer an apology for that.
I do not hate the Anthonys. I know some people do. I don’t agree with a lot of what they have done, but personally, I have no reason to hate them. I don’t hate Casey or Baez either. Do I like them? That’s a different story.
Hi thinker,
I’m on my phone right now.It was the state depo, and if I recall correctly, it was at the very bottom of the interview. The link is in on of blinks articles.
I don’t know how I ended up at this site but some of the discussion was about Joy Wray. Most of it was about “melissa” communicating with Cindy Anthony and Yuri Melich. Melissa listened via police scanner to LE visit to Joy Wray. Melissa also discussed her communications with Andrea Lyon’s helper.
Here are some of the posts…
wwemelissa7 (10/8/2009 1:41:15 AM): I called bekki up told her
zen[(aida)] was online… she and I started talking to zen via myspace… she was telling me things that she was not telling bekki. I tried to text lee, he never wrote back, I called George, he didnt call back, I called cindy and she called me right back…
wwemelissa7 (10/8/2009 1:32:40 AM): Those [(emails)] were from the DP attorney’s helper
(Melissa was asked why she was communicating with the defense)
wwemelissa7 (10/8/2009 1:34:17 AM): Cause I gave them the info
bec[ause] Jose didnt return my phone calls and Cindy told me to them everything
This is a police scanner site
http://heliosj.iddings.us/main/scanner
Cut from this site:
http://www.thenewdaymare.blogspot.com/
I always come back to the fact that red flags should have flown, even if Cindy and Casey did have a fight on the 15th. I know a lot of grandparents dont talk to their grands every single day but as a nana that has had a daughter and granddaughter living in the home at that same age, I just cant see Cindy not going crazy about not talking to Caylee for that long. I would have done something after a couple of days. That has always bothered me big time. Nothing informational here just something I could never fathom once you have held, rocked to sleep, fed that baby, and felt them with their heads against your shoulder so trusting and loving. Sometimes I am very angry with the A’s and then again there must have been a time when they truly loved her and now it is very sick and tragic.
Kiwi…#437..Cindy did talk to Casey everyday. Cindy asked to speak to Caylee everyday and Casey always had an excuse and would not allow Cindy to speak to Caylee. Of course Caylee was already dead and Casey knew this. So they knew Casey was alive but not where she was cause she was lying about her locations. Casey told Cindy they where in Tampa, Jacksonville etc. When George said we found my daughter but not my Granddaughter, he knew Cindy talked to Casey everyday but they both didn’t really know where she was because of Casey’s lying. When George smelled the decomp from the car he knew it could be only Caylee before he open the trunk cause Cindy had just spoke (June 15th) with Casey about the car.
Kiwi.. I Think George knew Caylee was dead on June 15th. Shock, denial and cover up began for the Anthony’s. I always thought why did he move that car. Why didn’t he call the police from the tow yard? Why did he go to work? My explaination to myself is Cindy took over what directions they would go in. George’s statement “I can’t live this lie.” But he did and is to the present.
I was just reading on another site and a comment I read just gave me a thought…..is the defense still going with the “Nanny” story? If so, how come there is no sketch of this so-called Nanny or a picture, seeing that Casey was into photography. I mean, she had 1000′s of pictures of everyone else, but none of her Nanny? And she didn’t give LE or her Attorney a sketch to put out on the news in case anyone saw her?????? She DID kidnap her kid, for goodness sake….that’s the 1st thing LE does right, I mean, unless it’s not a legitimate scenerio…..oh yeah….that’s right….
By the way, Blink, Kudos to you….you’re doing an Excellent job. Can’t wait till we hit the Crossroads!
Ty friend.
B
Sorry. Am calmer.