Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Your Resolution to NOT HATE The Anthonys
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Orlando, FL– On the Eve of the New Year, it struck me that I have yet to form my New Years’ Resolution, and hopefully, impart one to the dedicated readers of blinkoncrime.com.
After reading this comment from a longtime reader and poster, I realized it would be the basis of what I will ask of you in the coming year.
I guess I’m still alone in not begrudging the Ants any of the media money they collect. I know everyone’s mad at them for not publicly turning against their daughter, and for not helping the state firm up a death penalty case against her, and I get that, but I still have trouble mustering up hatred for them. I don’t think they’re particularly likable or even sympathetic characters—I think that’s why I can’t seem to hate them correctly. I see them as foibled and broken and just so regularly human that I kind of feel compassion for their situation.
I think it’s probably a misconception that they’re rolling in the dough. They’re not working right now. Cindy had to clean out her retirement fund thanks to the two losers she more or less supports, and who more or less have robbed her blind over the past many years. They have lawyers and godnoze who else sucking money out of them prolly as quickly as it comes in. Their grandchild is dead, their daughter is facing death—it sucks. I’m pretty positive that none of us would want to trade places with them. Not that you guys wouldn’t conduct yourselves differently than the Ants. You’re probably less screwed up than they are.
I wouldn’t want to walk a mile in their shoes, and I’m grateful that I won’t have to. But I am also quite sure that I can’t fully imagine what it feels like to be them. Everyone hates them. People surely still heckle them, threaten them, shun them, spit on them, attack them—day after day, relentlessly!—viciously on blog after blog, calling them names, making just horrible assumptions and speculations about them and wild claims against them. Mobs are not warm and fuzzy, whether they are storming your gates with pitchforks and torches, or lobbing negativity and vitriol at you over the ‘net.
(Oh, dear, I must be feeling the full weight of 2009 upon me. Reflection is a dangerous thing, lol.) At any rate, here’s wishing all the Blinksters a safe and happy and fulfilling 2010, hopefully with many fewer human tragedies for us to chime in on.
I think this perspective is a very fair one, and I share it. My response:
Suz-
I do not hate these people. I hate their behavior.
I hate that they enabled this girl for so long she never got the help, I feel, she desperately needed.
I hate that a 34 month old baby paid the price for it.
I hate that they have lied to protect the woman responsible for it.
I hate that they do not get that their job now, is to restore the dignity of that baby, and to warn others what can happen when one enables their child to the extent of actual lying and covering up for her, her entire life.
I stole a pack of Kool Aid when I was a kid ( that must be where it all started..) and my Mom drove me back to Food Lane and made me hand it to the manager and apologize.
The rest of my feelings are probably peppered throughout this site.
I do not want people to blindly hate the Anthony’s. I want them to learn the lessons they are supposed to, in the hopes this tragedy can be prevented where it might not have been previously, for someone else.
Imo, hate gets people nowhere. It prevents us from self-asessing and making the crooked places straight.
Happy New Year to You as well Suz.
B
To add to the above, I will share with you that my biggest fear in the conclusion of this case, is that hate, for anyone involved, wins out.
The easiest thing in the world to do is to cast dispersions and launch the atomic hate grenade. I am asking all of you to instead of sitting in the smokescreen that ensues, to open your heart to the real issue here.
Caylee Marie Anthony, in her short time on Earth, loved these people, unconditionally.
Maybe the way to break through to them is to just respect that part of their relationship. Momentarily, can I ask us to have a collective recall of a photo we have seen of Caylee with them? Full of life, love, and happiness.
I know they read here, so let me be the first to say that while I will continue to work to affect a successful prosecution in this case; I want you to know:
I know you loved her more than anything.
I know you would do everything differently if you could.
I know what happened to Caylee was not your fault, but you know who is responsible.
I know that you are struggling for a way to make this right.
I know that your ability to do so on your own may be shortly out of your control.
I know that people will understand your motivations for how this all started if you are simply, honest. I know people have a great capacity for forgiveness.
For me, the thought of Caylee’s death turning into nothing more than a bank account for some, and platform to spread hate, turns my stomach.
If hate wins, that is all it will ever be to those that we need to affect changes that will help someone else. The cycle continues.
I think Caylee deserves for her death to matter in a way for her legacy to be the focus of our energy. Please join me.
(editors note: For anyone who reads this and thinks Blink has gone soft, you know me better than that. I am just sick of the viral toxin shower that some seem to have taken before they comment on this case. It needs to end)
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R
# 100 I agree Todd ….. but, can you envision the huge spectacle/distraction that would ensue if Cindy, George, Lee were charged with crimes at this time???!!!! OMG! it would give them soooooooooooo much more air time, and crying the “victim/martyr” sympathy pleas. I personally, do not want to read non-stop Cindy/George/Lee headlines in the news, or see them on the news shows, or discuss them on the blogs! At this time …. I want to see Casey convicted of check fraud, and defamation, and eventually of 1st degree pre-meditated murder. Then, the rest of the family can be dealt with and take center stage. IMO
I’ve written this on a previous thread, but I’ll rehash it because I am too lazy to hunt it down. I don’t expect the Anthonys to “confess” whatever their feelings are about what Casey did or didn’t do publicly. Frankly, they are better off saying nothing to the public . They would be in better circumstances now, had they kept quiet in the past.
The statements made before are out there, they can not be undone. Regardless, even if the Anthonys now believe that Casey killed Caylee, they can not announce this epiphany to the world. Their daughter is facing the death penalty, to promote her guilt may make other people feel better about the situation, but it would be extraordinarily destructive to Casey’s case and it would enhance her peril of being killed. It would seal her fate. The Anthonys probably already suffer enormous guilt about what happened to Caylee. They likely feel responsible on some level and don’t want to be responsible for another loss.
The best that they could do if 1) talk to their own daughter, tell her they love her, and be direct about what she is facing 2) (if it goes this far) testify honestly in court, but express mitigating factors about Casey (during the sentencing portion), and beg the court to consider the horror that they would experience should they lose another family member.
I think just stating that they have a VERY difficult time believing that Casey had a part in Caylee’s death is enough. Because they realistically are having a difficult time with that. They don’t WANT to believe it , even if they really do. To go on air to cast suspicions elsewhere just makes the situation worse. However “coming clean” to all of us with what they actually believe happened is unrealistic. Alternatively, painting Casey as perfection incarnate in the media is counterproductive; it infuriates people who don’t buy it, and it harms Casey. If Casey wasn’t “perfect” it might advance sympathy toward her: if we knew she’s had mental problems, for example, vs. just trying to “game” everyone.
Snipped from Above, WSH:
The best that they could do if 1) talk to their own daughter, tell her they love her, and be direct about what she is facing 2) (if it goes this far) testify honestly in court, but express mitigating factors about Casey (during the sentencing portion), and beg the court to consider the horror that they would experience should they lose another family member.
This is critical, imo. To me, the whole we don’t want them videotaped crap was exactly that. We all know that should they visit Casey, it will be taped, but such tape could be motioned by the defense to not be released based upon it’s inflammatory content (assumption, but come on..) and THEY WOULD BE GRANTED SUCH A MOTION, imo.
I have a theory. I think Andrea Lyon is of the mind that (and recall her “speech” she specifically states that sometimes cases are appropriate to plea) Casey has spent so much time with Baez that in her psychie, she is not comprehending the fact that she will spend the rest of her life in jail, or die by lethal injection.
I think Lyon was intending to put the family together so they could be sure she was aware of these possibilities for CERTAIN. That the discussions one family should be having in this scenario could occur to her/their satisfaction and not that Jose et al has brainwashed this girl into believing her own “story” has a happy ending.
Your right, I dont think there is anything gained by the A’s speakly publicly about anything.
What I would hope for them, is that they both take part in intensive grief counseling, among other things.
I do not share Ms. Lyon’s political or social beliefs for the most part, but I honestly believe she knows the law better than all of them, past and present, put together, and I think after the appearance, she has pulled rank.
We are in the critical hour with this defense, with one hand on a crash cart, imo.
B
Happy New Year all.
Hating them does not effect that Anthony’s unless you happen to know them personally and they know you.
I think that most people do not hate them but they do find them contemptable and disgusting. There are sins of commission and sins of ommision. All the Anthony’s have that on their souls. Casey of course for committing the murder. C & G and even Lee have the sin of ommission as they did NOTHING to help Casey over the years. They were clasic enablers. They are still the same.
The psycho dynamics of this family will be fodder for whole chapters, if not books that psych students can study. Its sort of a perfect storm of dysfunction. I know they lost a granddaughter but they have never acted within the socially defined parameters of “normal”. They still don’t. They compartmentalize everything it seems. They are going to survive and I really think they will profit from this tragedy.
Blink, you are amazing.
Thanks, but we are the sum of our parts here-
I think wrt the term “profit”, it is all relative. That said, they can only profit if any of us participate in the interest that would generate their income.
B
happy new year everyone!!i dont think ive ever hated the anthony’s ,i just had to shout out all the things i felt were lies,and motives.i actually want to give my vintage winnie the pooh collection to cindy, to add to caylees.
Happy New Year Everyone. I’ve only posted a few times – Prefer to just read all the articles and comments – I guess that’s what you call a “Lurker”. I came across this site & stayed because this is the only place you can come & not have to sift through a bunch bashing & nonsense.
I’ve never hated the Anthony’s. I tend to think what we all “hate” is not knowing the truth. Not knowing just how much Cindy & George REALLY do know. Not knowing what REALLY happened to poor Caylee. We’re left to sort through pages & pages of discovery documents to put the pieces of this tragedy together. What I do hate is that I fear we will never really know everything. I hate the fact that this didn’t have to happen. I hate that George & Cindy couldn’t read the warning signs and prevent Caylee from leaving this earth too soon.
Once the trial is over & done with – no matter what the outcome – George & Cindy will never be able to go anywhere without people saying things about them, either to their face, or behind their backs. This will follow them to the end of their days. Will that be punishment enough?
Only the truth shall set your mind free.
God bless Caylee Marie.
I don’t think cindy is in denial anymore. She was at first, but now she realizes that “playing the part” is great for getting paid interviews and makes the books and movies all the more interesting.
Dr. Lillian Glass wrote that in this last today show appearnace cindy seemed more subdued and that she might be just now coming to terms with casey’s guilt. I’m not a Dr, but I disagree with Dr Glass’ accessment. I think she’s seen all kinds of acting coaches and PR gurus and is trying to spin herself in a better light so she can get more interviews and more money and more fame. cindy carefully controls her facial expressions and body language now, to the point she looks almost plastic.
casey swept little Caylee out of her mind after she murdered her aand cindy swept little Caylee out of her mind also. She would have abandoned casey too except that casey is now as big a part of her meal ticket as Caylee is.
I think the anthony clan is mentally sick, for sure, but their biggest problem is that they are morally sick.
What’s the score Red?
Proud mama of a Penn State alumn!
WE ARE…
(clap clap PENN STATE)
heh heh
B
I for one think hate is a very strong word..I think what Casey did makes people dislike like her because her crime is against her own flesh and blood as well at the Anthony’s grand daughter..which there are loads of posters who are not only parents but as well grand parents..I belive placing ourselves in the shoes of grieveing grandparents makes us all say things we dont really truly mean to say….I dont belive for one minute that there is a poster on ANY blog who has with in their heart of hearts to HATE….the Anthony’s..I believe the hate they describe is the hate they have for the actions against Caylee Anthony…There is a fine line between Love and Hate…The Love that is felt for Caylee being a baby herself and the Hate of how she met her demise at the hands of her own mother..JMO……JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
1 millionth??? wow, and notice that Red put a Canadian’s face on the top of that post!! Dr. Evil, but under the makeup and mask, a Canadian comedian/actor.
Lol, yes, I am very proud of my work now being associated with Dr. Evil…
B
I reckon you got us. I would love to see the game played again on a dry field with impartial refs. But for today, your guys wanted to win more than ours for 3.5 quarters.
I would also like to state, once again, that I am not Red from Scared Monkeys. A tremendous disservice is done to him each time that is questioned….
Bitter, party of one, your century is ready.
Hee hee. Luv ya
B
HAHAHAHAHAH! I LOVE IT! (Dr. Eeeeville and 1 meeeellion dollars)
Congrats Blink. You’re obviously doing something right!
Does anyone stick to their New Years Resolution? Can’t say I ever have, nor can I promise myself this case won’t pull at my heart strings for the next 365 days. For me personally, I think Casey coax this household for years. Casey was the baby of the family. She always got what she wanted. She always knew her big brother would take care of her in the long run. She was attention driven in school with sports, but didn’t know how to make friends because she lacked empathy. I bet she turned people away because of her anti-social behavior and colossal fictitious half-truths and dreams. My guess is that Cindy kept her in check within her radar until she got her drivers license. Then all hell broke loose. Casey needed money for gas, fast-food and clothes. How else could she obtain material things (without a diploma) to keep her happy, but to steal from the pocket(s) at Hopesprings Drive. Cindy could no longer keep Casey her under her thumb.
The mountain of truths started to plummet for George because of Casey’s lack of responsibility for her own future. The verbal fights must of been more than anyone could stand or bare witness to, Wow!
How can I keep a New Years Resolution for the Anthony’s, when Cindy herself made her mom and dad promise not to tell her siblings that Casey wasn’t going to graduate. What?, because she lacked a couple of credit hours. No way! If it were my kid, i’d do everything in my power to see she got those “few” credit hours. But no, they let Casey bully them with her outrageous, self-righteous attitude while living under their roof. Why?
The main reason I can’t hold my New Years Resolution is because children have rights too. Why didn’t they seek professional mental help for Casey (when there were red flags leading to and from their front door)? Why didn’t they seek assistance from child welfare, if Casey couldn’t provide for Caylee. Children have rights too, and they ignored the warning signs all in the name of shame. I don’t hate, I want a better future for all. May 2010 open the eyes of many, whom avoid half truths and red flags at their feet.
My grandmother made the realize the meaning of hate many years ago when I was a young child. I was very upset with another child and commented out loud that I “hated” her. My grandmother asked me if I knew what to hate someone meant. Sheepishly, I replied that I did not. She said well it means you dislike someone enough to wish they were dead. Then she asked me again if I hated this person. I thought about it for a few minutes and realized that I really didn’t care for this person, but I didn’t wish her dead either. This is how I feel about the Anthonys. I do not like them, but I don’t wish ill of them either. I don’t hate Casey either. I do hope she never ever sees the light of day in the free world again and that is enough for me.
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1 mil yeah!!! does DICK have that? I think not, you go girl with your bad self!
Westside’s post and Blink’s response have me discombobulted.(again!)#103
If the A’s do go and visit kc, it seems to me that they would be openning the Pandora’s Box of their own responsibility in this. By most theories they ARE the mitigating force behind casey’s crime. It would take on a laying themselves bare, selfless act. So far, since the very first 911 call, the most displayed emotion has been anger. Anger at LE,TM,LP,family,media,FBI,searchers,Judge S,Nejame, anger/rage at Morgan,Ashton etc. By exposing themselves I believe the facade that they want people to believe will crumble publicly, nothing that they’ve done so far indicates that they have that level of self sacrifice. I hope they they find it within.
I’m still not understanding the Baez stance. Is is he isolating her for the purpose of sensational headlines at a later date? Is he so afraid of the anger issues of both kc and CA that he can’t let her see them? Is he truly an incompetent atty? Is he following kc’s dictates because she is still in her delusion or has he allowed the delusion to buy more time and advance his clout? I don’t know what to make of his representation.
First and foremost, we need to remember that Baez is a “pseudo” Casey. In effect, in his role as counsel, if it behooves her “vigorous and zealous” defense, he could choose, as her agent, not to tell her boo about her fam or other so long as it does not infringe on her rights under their relationship.
B
Hate is such a strong word to use. I don’t think I’ve ever hated anyone specifically, in my life. There are those I like, those I don’t like, those I tolerate, and those I avoid. The Anthonys will never fit in any of those slots with me because I will never know them. Thankfully.
But I also will never respect them. Not because they enabled Casey’s bad behavior her entire life. Many parents do the same, some I know too well from my years of working at a daycare.
My lack of respect isn’t because they sat in front of tv cameras time and time again and out and out lied, daring the viewers to call them on it and then whining when people did.
My lack of respect is over the fact that they have never once cried out for justice for Caylee. They have no problem pointing the finger at anyone but their daughter, they send PIs on wild goose chases and order them to invent dirt on innocent people, they will probably never change and I accept that. That is who they are. False pride, misguided lies, insulting the very people who helped them, it’s all the Anthony way and that’s fine by me. But what is not fine with me is that never once have they wanted justice for Caylee and that’s where my respect was lost. They know Casey took Caylee’s life and they know we know it too. That’s why they will not go on those tv shows they love so much and talk about justice for Caylee. And that is why even though I do not hate them, I can also not respect them and that is worse than hate in my eyes.
Blink -
Just read over on Scared Monkey’s that Brad Conway was representing Holly Gagne on a FELONY ASSAULT charge. This was a supposed babysitter of Caylee at some point right?
Heh?
I was gone like 5 minutes. Yeesh. She is definately a former babysitter and Anthony advocate.
B
Holly is a neighbor…IIRC
and supporter
jmo
And Nancy Grace guest, and mother of Cindy Anthony’s own sitting charge.
Is this the Holly Ann Gagne you are talking about in # 112 comment by Sal?
http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6549856
Register of ActionsCase No. 2009-CF-014544-A-OSTATE OF FLORIDA VS. HOLLY ANN GAGNE §
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Case Type: Criminal Felony
Date Filed: 10/02/2009
Location: Div 16
Judicial Officer: Adams, John H, SR
ICJIS Document ID Number: 213579
Inmate Booking Number: 09048714
Uniform Case Number: 482009CF014544A001OX
Party Information Lead Attorneys
Defendant GAGNE, HOLLY ANN
CONWAY, BRADLEY A, Esquire
Retained
407-246-0803(W)
Plaintiff STATE OF FLORIDA
Charge InformationCharges: GAGNE, HOLLY ANN Statute Level Date
1. CR-AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A DEADLY WEAPON 784.045(1)(A)(2) Second Degree – Felony 09/10/2009
2. CR-CRIMINAL MISCHIEF (<=$200) 806.13(1)(B)(1) Second Degree – Misd 09/10/2009
Events & Orders of the Court OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
10/02/2009 Warrant Issued Returnable Instanter
WARRANT ISSUED RETURNABLE INSTANTER BOND $7,500.00 SHALL NOT RETURN TO THE PARTIES JOINT RESIDENCE AND HAVE NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM
10/02/2009 Affidavit to Issue Warrant
AFFIDAVIT TO ISSUE WARRANT
10/02/2009 Copies Furnished to the OCSO
OCSO COPIES (ARREST/SEARCH WARRANTS, FUGITIVE)
10/21/2009 Bond Filed
USA LATINOS BAIL BOND INC FILED RET : TBN $7500 #527087873-8
10/21/2009 Warrant Returned
WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
10/21/2009 Arrest Affidavit Filed
ARREST AFFIDAVIT FILED – DOA / BOND $7500 / INMATE NUMBER 09048714
10/26/2009 Information Filed
INFORMATION FILED
10/27/2009 Notice
NOTICE OF ARRAIGNMENT ISSUED 08:45 A.M.
11/17/2009 Arraignment (8:45 AM) ()
ARRAIGNMENT
11/17/2009 Court Minutes
arraignment
11/17/2009 Affidavit of Insolvency/Indigency
11/23/2009 Notice of Appearance
11/23/2009 Request for Copies
11/23/2009 Written Plea of Not Guilty
11/23/2009 Waiver of Arraignment
11/23/2009 Notice of Discovery Filed
12/10/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
12/10/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
12/10/2009 State’s Witness List
12/21/2009 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
01/21/2010 CANCELED Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
Cancelled
01/21/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
Case Management
01/27/2010 Pre-Trial Conference (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
02/08/2010 Trial (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
FTLOG.
Interesting. I do declare ( say like Michael Scott) same arresting officer at ZG22.
B
Blink,
This is the reason I started reading at your site to begin with. You have been a constant reminder for all of us that this is about a little girl who was tragically taken from the world too early. I have always said I don’t blame the Anthony’s for protecting their daughter- they have had a LOT of hate thrown at them. It is one thing to think Casey killed her daughter and to know the details of her life that we know, but some do take it way too far. I don’t know that I would be able to stomach anyone being so cruel to anyone I love.
Casey did a horrible thing and she will suffer the consequences, but saying hateful things about her and her family will only ever just be hateful words- not justice for Caylee.
If we truly want justice for Caylee I believe we need to stay focused on the details. And it wouldn’t hurt to say a prayer each day for the people she adored – pray that they find peace and learn to accept the truth. Pray for her mother that she’ll be able to face the truth and share it with her family. You are all wonderful and I look forward to NOT hating with you all in 2010!
TY
B
Blink, I just wanted to say, of all of the excellent articles I have followed on here — your kindness and compassion, your never-ending search for the truth, and commitment to finding justice for victims… this article has touched me the most.
Just reading all of the responses and reactions… It amazes me what you can do.
I know that the people who comment here have huge hearts…but, sometimes, emotions can lead us astray. Hatred just brings more hatred.
I believe you have led us all back to who we really are inside.
You hit my bullseye friend. I hope you are correct.
Thank you
B
What a gift. What a way to start off the New Year.
Thank you
(and a special thanks to suz for the comment that inspired this)
It’s hard to add to the eloquence and sentiment in Blink’s words and others here. From the beginning, I have been appalled at the apparent manipulations the Anthony’s have put on in an attempt to save their daughter. I’ve been appalled at their lack of integrity. I’ve been appalled at their willingness to compromise the sanctity of their beloved granddaughter’s legacy. I have also been appalled at the poison that is put out their towards them. They have stirred the very core emotions in us. In many ways, our reactions are but a mirrored reflection of their own inner conflict and how they have chosen to live through this. By and large, and reflected in the comments here, I believe people feel the compassion for the Anthony’s in seeing them live a tragedy none of us would even want to imagine. In this compassion, what we want to see is a spirit, absent of lies and manipulations, that is fortified by our support and joint quest for justice and the truth in the memory of this precious baby. What they have given us is just the opposite. My prayer is that they are able to find the place within themselves that leads them to simply live Caylee’s true legacy because it’s the right thing to do. Through this, I trust they will come to know the support for them that really has wanted to be there all along.
Hmmm, vigorous and zealous and Baez in the same sentence?j/k
No way do i even pretend to know about the law but in my neanderthal, ugh,ugh understanding seems like for her to be able to make decisions about her defense she would need to have an accurate view of events surrounding her case. The family’s own legal involvements (ZFG case)(accusations of obstruction?) and whatever else are all as a result of her indictment so….seems like he wouldn’t get to be the arbitrary decider. It’s all pertinent to her or should be. And who knows, maybe she’s got every little development penciled in a notebook?
Thanks for the response.
Sal share the kink cause i didnt see that………..thanks
kink…link whatever…haahhaha sorry type o
today is month 2 on the loss of my sis, no info from corner(?) on the how and why, I can’t function, wondering how the A’s can? would never wish this pain on anyone! My heart is heavy, the tears are always falling for the ones lost early at the hands of others…
Dee-
Prayers and Peace to you, and I am ordering you off her for the evening, with love.
B
dee, it’s on the forum, not an article, just do a google search with the necessary kw’s.
Was it the Anthony case that was somehow tied to the circumstances that led to these charges and therefore, the need for the Anthony’s to help Ms. Gagne with this problem (via their lawyer’s assistance)?
Early October, two weeks before the October 16th hearing and around the time that the Anthony’s were doing their 20 thousand dollar media morning show, and about the time they were packing for their weekend 3 hour cruise? ( refrain– 3 hour cruise. Sorry, couldnt’ resist)
(other news of the day, Ham and devil’s food… Casey ate better today than many).
01/21/2010 Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Adams, John H, SR)
Case Management
This is the same date that the Casey Anthony capital case is to have a status hearing. Gee maybe the accused could meet and do lunch, share nanny stories.
Are u sure- I think pretrial is the 20th, but I admit I have not looked at the docket recently.
B
Could it be that they will throw HG under the bus too? How many of Casey’s KNOWN nanny’s (aka babysitters, baby watchers) have had charges against them such as this? Better suspect that Mr. Kronk by miles!
Red Ranger, you are OUR Red too!
kleat the name dropping will go and on..just sit back and watch the show
Blink, I could have made a mistake on my note, if so, sorry.
From HG’s charges info, does this look like the victim lived in the same residence as HG? “shall not return to the parties joint residence and have no contact with the victim.” That sounds like a domestic and why would she have to leave the residence and not return, if this were an act of self-defense?
What is a ‘deadly’ weapon by definition? Does this suggest a knife or gun?
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Charge InformationCharges: GAGNE, HOLLY ANN Statute Level Date
1. CR-AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A DEADLY WEAPON 784.045(1)(A)(2) Second Degree – Felony 09/10/2009
2. CR-CRIMINAL MISCHIEF (<=$200) 806.13(1)(B)(1) Second Degree – Misd 09/10/2009
Events & Orders of the Court OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
10/02/2009 Warrant Issued Returnable Instanter
WARRANT ISSUED RETURNABLE INSTANTER BOND $7,500.00 SHALL NOT RETURN TO THE PARTIES JOINT RESIDENCE AND HAVE NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM
I admit that I have been a lurker here for many months. Interesting that Blink posted this topic today after the repeat broadcast of the Morgan depos yesterday on Nancy Grace. When I view a rerun I usually pick up on new things. Yesterday I found myself feeling compassion for Cindy and almost rooting for her. Cindy was answering questions pertaining to a picture of Zanny that LE possessed and whether that picture has been shown to Casey ID Zanny. Cindy clearly stated that officer Allen told her that he showed the picture to Casey, however Casey denies ever seeing the picture. The next series of questions centered on who did Cindy think was lying, Casey or LE. I watched as Cindy was not showing anger but frustration. Cindy stated repeatedly that her prior answers to LE in prior interviews were based on information available at that time. I felt that Cindy was badgered/harrassed on that subject and I felt that she answered as honestly as she could on that subject at that time with the knowledge available at that time. I certainly do hear many inconsistency in the Anthony’s statements, but yesterday I heard honesty and saw frustration.
blink I will it is 0330 here in europe, this is the house that I find peace and strength in, I take so much from this place in my own life and I am happy here, I read and understand and it brings me peace and for that I am thankful….
Atta girl.
B
Dear OhioSheryl
i just watched that again yesterday too and I witnessed something totally different I saw anger and hate, she knew she was caught and that pissed her off royaly IMO
she knew that ZG was not the one but she was p’oed that she had to eat dirt on that one, she wanted out of there with the quickness cause she knew she had no chips to bargin with, watch her drink her water, watch her chew her gum and wath her sweat that is telling…in the end the A’s have nothing to grasp hold of.
It appears this was some type of domestic based on the info posted on the My Clerk site. So if I am understanding this right, she assaulted someone with a deadly weapon and also did some type of damage to that persons property and that damage was less than $200. Hmmm wonder where her child was when this was going down?
She was precluded from the home, that smells spousal, I agree.
B
I just wanted to share some thoughts that might give a perspective/might not. I love my family very much. Bigger than the whole wide world. As an example, I have very close relationships with my brothers and my sister and feel that I know them very well. If my brother were to be accused of a heinous crime, and there was even a 1 percent chance that he was not guilty of the crime, and he looked me in the eyes and told me he wasn’t guilty, what would I do? I would believe my brother. I would fight for my brother. I would deny the accusations against him. Yes, I would hear and read what was being said and the charges, but would I turn a blind eye to it? Would I be in denial? I am thinking I probably would. Because I love and trust my brother. I would fight tooth and nail for him til the bitter end. Would I lie for him? honestly, I can’t say with 100 percent that I wouldn’t if he were facing the death penalty. Why do I say this? because I really don’t
know what I would do. I guess we never know how we might act being put in a similar situation. So trying to put myself in the Anthony family protect mode, and trying to put myself in a similar situation, It lets me see why they are living in the state of denial that they are. They know and love Casey, we don’t. They don’t think she is capable of killing Caylee. We can’t force them to see it. Until they have 100 percent proof, they will never believe it. I can understand and I feel for them. The day that it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, they will be broken. So yeah, I’m going to give them a major break for protecting their daughter, because I understand better now.
I wanted to ad, if I found out my brother was lying to me, the whole ball of wax would change
Blink –
Help me understand something…..did the offense take place on 9/10/09 but she was not arrested until October…..hmmm wonder if that’s b/c she was busy filming for the CBS 48 Hours special? She was quoted in the 10/17 article:
Holly Gagne is a close friend and former neighbor of the Anthonys, and a fierce defender of Casey’s.
“I never saw anything that would define the monster that people have made her out to be,” she said. “And I just can’t imagine that she could pick her up, her lifeless body and place her child into a bag and just dispose of it in the woods as if it was trash!”
1. CR-AGGRAVATED BATTERY WITH A DEADLY WEAPON 784.045(1)(A)(2) Second Degree – Felony 09/10/2009
2. CR-CRIMINAL MISCHIEF (<=$200) 806.13(1)(B)(1) Second Degree – Misd 09/10/2009
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10/02/2009 Warrant Issued Returnable Instanter
WARRANT ISSUED RETURNABLE INSTANTER BOND $7,500.00 SHALL NOT RETURN TO THE PARTIES JOINT RESIDENCE AND HAVE NO CONTACT WITH VICTIM
10/02/2009 Affidavit to Issue Warrant
AFFIDAVIT TO ISSUE WARRANT
10/02/2009 Copies Furnished to the OCSO
OCSO COPIES (ARREST/SEARCH WARRANTS, FUGITIVE)
10/21/2009 Bond Filed
USA LATINOS BAIL BOND INC FILED RET : TBN $7500 #527087873-8
10/21/2009 Warrant Returned
WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED
10/21/2009 Arrest Affidavit Filed
ARREST AFFIDAVIT FILED – DOA / BOND $7500 / INMATE NUMBER 09048714
10/26/2009 Information Filed
INFORMATION FILED
10/27/2009 Notice
NOTICE OF ARRAIGNMENT ISSUED 08:45 A.M.
11/17/2009 Arraignment (8:45 AM)
Constant lurker here……for those who commented that this is a refreshing change from all the hate-filled comments on other sites…i TOTALLY agree…
Blink, that is a wonderful post to start the New Year with. You are so CLASSY !
I would like to say that the disgust I felt for the A’s started with the way they (cindy) tried so hard to hurt the investigation by giving them the wrong hairbrush and toothbrush and laughing about it…she furthered that disgust with the tearing down of the memorial so many people made to Caylee.
May God help me get past all of their disgusting things and may God help them to see that the WORLD loves that little angel and we hurt for her, too.
Happy New Year everyone !
They perpatrated a fraud soliciting funds from a compassionate public for a *MISSING* Caylee after G. drove the death car home then he & Cindy cleaned & detailed the car before calling police.
That first 911 call…..Cindy reported a stolen auto & theft of money NOT Caylee being missing & then had the gall to get snippy with the 911 operator who questioned why the baby wasn’t reported until now saying “i’m doing that now mam”
Poor Caylee
re: Comment by gloriadelamanana — @ 11:30pm
Your feelings stem from your statement “Because I love and trust my brother.” You trust your brother – why, because he has gained your trust. You would be telling a different story if he was a habitual liar and thief now, wouldn’t you?
Correct me if I’m wrong –
In Cindy’s deposition, when asked she named all the people that at one time or another babysat for Caylee. She stated that she did not have any of the babysitters’ phone numbers or addresses because it was never an issue. She said she never needed them because Casey was responsible for Caylee, that she would never have reason to call them.
Yet when questioned about ZG – she did have phone numbers and addresses but not with her. This info she claimed to have turned over to LE but did not keep copies. I find this very odd.
One last point – another oddity – she said she did not have and address or phone number for the any of the Grunds and that she had never been to their house. This was her daughter’s fiance . . . ???
So now im understanding that Miss Holly is a CRIMINAL too??? OMG i wonder if she had conversation with CMA in the pokey….Im sure she did……. BTW can someone post the linke where Casey is at Target where she suppossedly bouth hrdrogen peroide and paper towels for some odd reason i cant seem to find that video…… i would love to see this PLEASe
TY
HYDROGEN*
Blink, I am what you call a lurker. I have read your articles and peoples opinions for many many months, but not commented. This article struck me hard. I am local to the Orlando area and when the news broke, I remember thinking – OMG this poor family! As the days went by I (along with many) thought how odd that nobody from the family was pleading for this child’s return. I remember Cindy Anthony stating “get off your asses and look for my Grandchild”. And many of us did. We battled heat, bugs, snakes, spiders (biggest I have ever seen). While we were there to find anything of significance, we wanted to believe she was alive.
I cannot imagine being in the Anthony’s position. In the past 18 months I have pondered what I would do if I was in their position. Would I shun my child or would I realize I could not bring my Grandchild back and do whatever it took to save my child. I just don’t know. That alone makes me not hate the Anthony’s.
I am thankful that Caylee does have the SA as her advocate and am hoping her Mother takes the high road and tells us what happened.
Thank you Blink for what you do and for doing it so well.
Ty and welcome
B
Wasn’t HG also on the Foundation’s board? Am I “misremembering”?