Morgan Harrington Murder: Why Anchorage Farm?
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Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harrington, 20 year old Virginia Tech Student found murdered on Anchorage Farm January 26 2010, was put there for a reason.
Image of Original Work By Nancy Bass
It was clear from Lt. Joe Rader’s press conference on February 4 that the location of Morgan’s remains is critical to the investigation, and to the identity of the individuals responsible.
Why Anchorage Farm?
David and Nancy Bass, owners of Anchorage Farm and the residential dwellings therein, own a boatload of land.
B O A T L O A D.
Mr. Bass, is also a longstanding member of the Albemarle County Zoning Appeals Board. In fact, he is the Chairman of the ACZAB since 2007, where he preceded this position at the Vice Chair since 2000.
Between 2005 and 2008, let’s agree there is a “run” on raw land in Albemarle County VA, in particular.
Like many families owning large tracts of land, there is always the dilemma of staying ahead of the zoning curve or preserving their land while paying taxes only on the residence.
Anchorage Farm, like almost 90% of surrounding vacant land, was registered in the Agricultural and Forrestal preservation program.
Location, Location, Location
The forced sale of Biscuit Run due to David Breeden’s original will was a disaster to its purchasers including Hometown crooner Dave Matthews.
A $46 Million dollar purchase from the Breeden family was recently bailed out by VDOT for under $10 Million.
There are lukewarm results to Blandemar Farms in its infancy.
The fresh sale of the first-of-its-kind development marrying land preservation and *ethereal* elite* estates* known as Bundoran Farms, Bass withdraws his 654 acre contribution to the Hardware District renewal.
Mr. and Mrs. Bass re-parceled and re-deeded their land in 2007. I have studied this tract closely; there is no doubt in my mind this land was being prepped for development with exactly the right easements for “right of way” purposes in place.
Nearly every other landowner was now in the 10 year plan with the possibility of not just one, but two significant luxury development projects on the horizon while their land is restricted from development of a “more intense use.”
Translation:
Holy Sh*t, my land could be “not subject to further subdivision” and worth half of what it is now in 10 years. Gulp.
Morgan’s remains were found in parcel 41a.
Which would coincide with the 4 and 1 parts of her families creed o; I choose to take comfort in that.
Keeping up with the Jonesbrights
As an example, let’s use the adjacent property tracts across Red Hill.
The Howell, Waybright, Napier and Hager Families own the largest preserved adjacent trac on Monacan, which from a plot perspective, you might argue is land-locked due to Mr. Bass ‘s re-zoning.
Now, before I get 300 posts asking if I am suggesting Morgan Harrington was murdered out of revenge of a land dispute; of course not.
I am simply saying it is possible that part of the motive of the persons responsible for Morgan’s death to place her on exactly the parcel she was, may have been a combination of comfort AND perceived payback.
I have personally worked with developers on a similar project and I have seen a man have his land value cut in half by not completing the planning process prior to new zoning amendments AFTER granting easements through it. Utter Nightmare.
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I may get bashed for saying this, but I do not think that ANY campus police should handle sexual assaults. It should be immediately handled by State Police
I completely agree, as well as missing person’s cases. I will at some point vie for every state to have a missing persons task force that does not fall under the Amber Alert. This is imperative. This is an epidemic and our young adults are at considerable risk. Remind me to get back on this particular soapbox when I am not on the web-tether
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regarding the friends, specifically.
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Interesting-to say the least. So we are to throw out any hypotheses regarding the friends having ANY knowledge as to why she went outside. In fairness to LE, I guess they meant it when they said that they were concerned with what took place AFTER she left the stadium.
Imo, correct. It is a shift for me too, but I am convinced of it.
B
MsLAL
March 10, 2010 at 11:16 pm
I am sorry to hear of your almost non re-entry at the Charlottesville Pavilion last year. I work there and have since day one and we have always allowed re-entry as do most if not all of the other smaller venues in town (I work at some of those too). We do the hand stamp and ticket scan on your way out and re-scan on your way back in, so you do need to have your ticket on you!
The only venues here that don’t allow re-entry are the JPJ arena and Scott Stadium as they are both managed and secured by large national corporations and they follow a more generic standard set of rules, but the smaller venues are able to handle this type of policy on a more personal level just because of the size of the venue.
I apologize for that even though I would not have been working security or at any of the gates! I’m glad you did get back in, we like to have happy guests!
I also apologize for the OT post!
I don’t usually watch this show but tonight I happened to see a few minutes of “Most Shocking.” It caught my attention because it showed a policeman who had pulled over a gang member, the boy got out of his car and unloaded a firearm at the police officer through his windshield. Interesting because they showed the police car and the pattern of bullet holes was almost exactly like that on Eppard’s car. The cop survived, thanks to immediate response, but he sure as heck didn’t get out of that car on his own!
Kind of interesting.
(Note: I am NOT saying Eppard didn’t earn what happened to him.)
How do you get a screen name to post a comment?
Pick one not in use.
B
A shout out to RED (while we have the rare chance to do so directly)– Thank you (and the Blinkettes!) for letting us have so much of B’s time and attention. Yeah, we know she mainly does it for all her “adoptive family,” those many victims who need a voice since theirs was taken away, but you are large-souled to share her so! And this following anecdote is for Blink herself, as well as you. My wife and I knew a graduate student whose entirely sweet nature was changed amazingly, sadly by someone’s accidentally shutting a car’s trunk lid on the back of her head as she looked for something inside. (Knowledge of which made every red flag flutter for me when we first heard the stories of Morgan’s fall inside JPJ; who knows what that could have changed?) So, Blink, be very patient with yourself about resuming the pace of your work here. Get over that concussion so you can lock horns again with the wrong-headed and lead this motley parade to justice!
to MsLAL– there’s a “sorta” local precedent for requesting DNA samples from those not directly suspected of a crime. We had a serial rapist at large, always described as a black male, but with other particulars (age/height/weight/features) a bit jumbled. At length, the City Chief of Police ordered officers to DNA swab black men encountered on the street, if they “volunteered” by not refusing. In fairly short order, you know what hit the fan. . .as the policy really did seem to fit a place and time far away (say, the “good ol’ days of apartheid, when Nelson Mandela types were under lock and key if not planted underground). So I think there will be some rightful suspicion of widespread “random” DNA checks, and we have to hope that LE is not quite so far at sea as to need such tactics to identify P(s)OI.
To Bev– you comment(@2:48 PM)”There’s nothing more dangerous to a girl like Morgan than a “cute RSO”. . .someone appealing, handsome, innocent looking.” Not having known Morgan, I’m not sure I could identify girls “like Morgan”– but let that slide. Mindful of a former current of talk on this site about RSOs having “wrong-shaped heads,” I would just disingenuously ask, how readily does “handsome” equal “appealing”? And is “innocent” really as sought after in a guy these days as “almost dangerous?” I guess I’m asking if you can clarify what you’re driving at? (Because if this case shows anything, it may show needs for various kinds of re-education.)
Thank You kindly, JD
B
oblio says:
March 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm
This may be totally off base, but what is the story with Colby Eppard? Avid hunter, thief of ATVs, assualt and battery (IIRC), spectacular suicide by cop after stealing aunt’s truck and swapping for cop’s car in a high speed chase. Is there any reason why he would *NOT* be a suspect in this case? Keekee, anyone, I am not that good at research; how can we find his whereabouts Oct 17?
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What WAS he thinking…
His former teacher described him as “a cross between Gomer Pyle and ‘cool-hand Luke.’”
His wild 70 mile route started up north of Charlottesville, headed down 29 through North Garden, right past Anchorage Farm, went further south then looped back around, to where he was caught, not too far from the beginning of Red Hill Rd.
to Skyler (3/10 @ 11:29 AM)– HOLD THE PHONE!!
Your timeline of the acts inside JPJ that night is something I’d not seen before (but maybe wish we all had).
When you say “LOG played second– their set was over around 8:40″ I had this cascade of thoughts:
— wasn’t “Morgan” seen on video “head-banging” to LOG?
— and when was it that she was seen to fall and hit her head?
— and was it during a band break that Morgan was said (by her friends) to have gone to the bathroom?
— and I know several people of BOC have speculated that maybe Morgan was interested more in LOG than in Metallica, since she went outside before Metallica came on. . .
But by LE’s timeline, we’re told that by 8:20 Morgan was outside JPJ and soon attempting to get back in.
Put that timeline together with yours, and we see that Morgan must have left WHILE Lamb of God WAS PLAYING. So. . .
— it seems incompatible that Morgan could have left DURING that set if she came to see LOG
–if she left her friends at the first band break (i.e. after Gojira) to go to the bathroom, and later it was really “Morgan” who was seen so animated near the stage while LOG played, when exactly would she have fallen?
–if she truly did call the friends inside JPJ at 8:48 to say that she had a new plan for the night, there should have been a band break in progress, so less noise to impede hearing her (or to have held a more extensive conversation with her), and no prospect of Metallica coming onstage before one of the friends could have scooted down to meet her at the arena’s entrance
–if she knew by 8:48 that she planned to break away from the friends, her car, etc. she must have had contact, face to face or by phone, with someone else whom she banked on getting her where she expected to go
— if the 4 Boys in Black that an eyewitness places Morgan with “around 9:00″ had stayed through LOG’s performance, they might well have simply run into this attractive girl as they exited– but if they were in Morgan’s new plans for the night by 8:48, there must have been contact between them inside JPJ, earlier. And if the BIB were leaving the arena between 8:40 and 9, they would NOT have been roadies or set-up guys for either LOG or Metallica. . .MIGHT have been such for Gojira (whose gear must have been stowed by then)
Maybe someone else can run with this logically; I need bed!
Skyler, I hope you’ll soon be reunited with Lexi! Although I have to wonder: has someone been targeting your pets? or trying to discomfort you?
C-ville says:
March 11, 2010 at 12:43 am
I am sorry to hear of your almost non re-entry at the Charlottesville Pavilion last year. I work there and have since day one and we have always allowed re-entry as do most if not all of the other smaller venues in town (I work at some of those too). We do the hand stamp and ticket scan on your way out and re-scan on your way back in, so you do need to have your ticket on you!
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Hey C-Ville! Thanks for your reply. Makes sense. When we went out, there was no one working that gate, so we didn’t get scanned out, and didn’t know we needed to. So, on trying to re-enter, they scanned our tickets, and they were rejected as having already been scanned in. But, it all worked out. We had a great time, and I really like the Pavilion. You all are fortunate to have such a nice facility.
fish sez “I know that this is lame but I’m with suz,”
If I only had a nickel for every time I’ve heard that…!
Skyler, thanks for the info! It certainly helps me with my daily musings. For whatever reason I have always thought Morgan waited until the end of LOG to go to the bathroom and it didn’t seem possible that she could have been seen around JPJ at so many different places in such a short amount of time. Thanks for clarifying.
TO: Morgan’s Dad:
Dr. Harrington,
I am in complete agreement that are two very important issues at the heart of sexual assaults on campuses around the country, including but not limited to UVA:
1. under-reporting; and
2. lack of prosecution in a court of law.
Both of the above have been focuses of mine and others over(literally) decades.
Many years ago I began challenging UVA regarding #1 above. My concern is and was that I knew that, for a wide variety of reasons, cases were not being reported. Having worked with survivors of sexual assault over several years I am sensitive to their reluctance to report in certain instances. However, any time, and for any reason, that a survivor is disinclined or discouraged from coming forward by an organization or agency, it telegraphs strongly that there is something inherently wrong in the very system that is supposed to address the needs of and care for these survivors. My attendant, greater concern was that the institution was not reporting cases–or, was reporting cases in a manner I felt was questionable or less than accurate.
With regard to #2 above, re: prosecution, I remain steadfast in my belief that all sexual assaults–especially and including those that occur on college campuses–must carry with them the consequence of adjudication in a court of law. Assailants, regardless of status–specifically including student status–must be made to face the consequences of their actions and ill decisions.
We teach our young children that there are consequences to their actions. We expect them to understand and face those consequences in their journey to adulthood. We should expect nothing less from our college students–particularly in those instances when they should be held criminally responsible for their actions. We expect this of our community citizens; it is unclear to me why college students should not be held to the same standard. It seems to be a reasonable expectation.
Colleges and universities must send a strong message to those who would perpetrate crimes of sexual assault that they will indeed face a judge or a jury of their peers–in a court of law. Anything less is–to my mind at least–grossly irresponsible and flies in the face of the anguish of the survivor…anguish, I might add, that they carry with them for the rest of their lives.
You are correct, Dr. Harrington: “Until all victims of these crimes are supported by families, administration and police to hold the criminal responsible, our silence in essence condones these crimes.”
Silence implies tacit approval, and “approval” in these circumstances is not ok; far from it. Too, the culture of “blame the victim” that you and Gil protest is equally abhorrent to me. Blaming the victim of an assault is tantamount to saying that the perpetrator is without guilt and that is only through the negligence, actions, or inactions of the victim that the crime occurred.
Rest assured, Dr. Harrington, that many–myself included–will not rest on this issue. We will continue to make our voices heard…not only at Take Back The Night events…not only at UVA and other college campuses and universities around the country…but anywhere and everywhere necessary to help effect permanent change. We are unafraid to make the Rotunda or Capitol Hill our battleground.
We will be the voice of Morgan and others who are silenced; we will carry their spirits with us, and we will share our strength where they cannot.
Rest assured, Dan and Gil, that we are far, far from done. We will continue to fight the good fight, on Morgan’s behalf and others like her.
Observer – RE: post to Dr. Harrington – very thoughtful post. I just want to add that the entire culture needs to shift — in particular the way WOMEN treat rape victims. In high school, I was raped and I did not report it to the police. What I did do was warn another girl to stay away from this “man.” Instead of heeding my advice, she ridiculed me. The problems run deep … the victim becomes a victim once again and that is why so many of us keep our mouths shut.
The family which KeeKee often references who is big in construction is also big in real estate and sells houses/farms in the AF area and also has a family member involved with music and a female family member who goes to VT.
I am steering away from a RSO.
As a continuation of Just Desserts comments about the Charlottesville/Albemarle County serial rapist. Hopefully, people like Observer can correct or fill in any details I have wrong. His DNA was found at several scenes but was not in any database, and also, as Just Desserts pointed out, victims’ descriptions were not consistent other than that he was African American. His reign of terror covered close to 10 years. The “voluntary” contributions of DNA did not yield a match. He was finally caught when one of his victims saw him working at his fairly public job, behind the counter at either a restaurant or grocery store and went to LE. Since his DNA was not on file, police needed to obtain a DNA sample. He was placed under surveillance and one day he made his mistake. I won’t go into detail as to that mistake. If the perpetrator is reading here and is not familiar with the story, I don’t want to alert him to what he should not do. Just suffice to say, the police got their sample legally without the necessity of a search warrant and made the match. I believe, faced with the DNA evidence, he pleaded guilty and is now serving a life sentence. Hopefully, if there is DNA and a POI without a DNA sample on file, LE are following the example of the police officers who ultimately brought this rapist to justice, observing his every move until he makes that one mistake that provides absolute proof of his guilt.
7.Judi says:
March 11, 2010 at 9:56 am
The family which KeeKee often references who is big in construction is also big in real estate and sells houses/farms in the AF area and also has a family member involved with music and a female family member who goes to VT.
I am steering away from a RSO
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Had you previously been looking more toward a RSO? if so, was it one in particular? What is your reason for steering away? In what direction do you find yourself focused now? I appreciate that you perhaps are careful not to show your hand, but I am very curious about your new comment and appreciate any more info you can safely share.
I’m sorry, I always seem to think of more I would like to add after hitting submit. With regard to the serial rapist, and here’s where others might know better than I. Just based on what I’ve read, I don’t believe this man was ever on police radar until ID’d by one of his victims. He was a family man, with at least one child, and apparently his wife had absolutely no idea of the 2nd evil life he was living.
As much as we would all like to think that the person(s) responsible for Morgan’s death must be displaying outward signs to family or friends, it’s just possible that this person(s) is/are so devoid of the normal human’s sense of guilt that he/they are going about daily life as if absolutely nothing happened. Scary thought that someone could be so evil, but we all know that such people do exist.
yes,msl,also in la,recently, i heard of a case of a serial rapist that was solved when undercovers traveled to new york city and unsuspecting of the suspect obtained his dna sample off a ciggy butt as he partied at a club,the focus of the news story:following him and grabbing his ciggybutt was completely legal.
BlinK: Welcome back. Hubby offered his help but I told him NOOOO!!!! He likes to open from stem to stern!
On January 18, at 1:34 am, I reposted a list of names that I had questions about. Could these guys be the MIB, that we all speak of? Maybe some of them were just there to see LOG and left to party elsewhere. Doesn’t mean I’m saying they did anything malignant!
Metallica is considered to have become “light-weight” with some hard-core metal heads. So I might be able to believe that they just left around the same time as Morgan. Maybe they saw her, never came forward, and just were in her vicinity. “Not with her but with her”. Sorry I messed that quote up from Lt. Rader. They might be able to give some insight if they did indeed stay or if they left and if they saw Morgan with anyone or getting into a vehicle. I know that this has already probably been looked at by LE but atleast I got it off my chest.
If you get an hour in the yard, does your Mr. Blink at least give you three hots and a cot!
I love that quote from FairyCyberGodMom, Observer!
This tidbit gives hope that LE are at least convincing Morgan’s mom that they are still active and perhaps closer to an arrest by having narrowed the pool.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/87274312.html
I vote Observer’s post this morning (March 11 8:534 a.m.)
to Dr. Harrington as BEST POST of the day!
Well said Observer! I concur BIG TIME!
WHERE is the accountability and CONSEQUENCES for these SICK Sex Offenders? There is none!!
Blink, I posted this question about the time you went on the Disabled List. I’m re-posting because I don’t know if you saw it, and I’m very curious as to your your response. Forgive me for being repetitive.
Blink asks:
“Who left the Sutherland property to respond to Anchorage Farm?”
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Why this question?
Were there Investigators involved in the Harrington case at the scene of the Sutherland fire? This would raise my eyebrows. Or, are you suggesting that someone involved in the crime “responded” to the Sutherland house AND to the scene at Anchorage Farm. Firefighters would not respond to AF, and I doubt even EMTs. Only Police Officers and Detectives/forensics would respond.
Hey Red, is Blink holding my post from last night?
Thx :0)
It’s me Gifter, yes, I am, I have been working on a piece containing that info for 2 days, but since I am on mandated “web outs”, it has been a challenge. As soon as I post it this afternoon, I will release it as it was posted and carry it over.
Thanks for your patience Gifter
B
you need to stop letting men “protect” you in the “south” … guys Virginia is considered yankee territory to the rest of the country. you are not living in the 1950s anymore … as far as the media circus in California, Florida and Texas regarding more transparency between LE and the public … the Chelsea King case was pursued and closed in a week and the public was aware of what was going on. same thing for cases in Texas … for example, when the guy in the plane flew into the IRS building in Austin, the community new EXACTLY what was happening inside of 10 minutes … from local news to LE to FBI … you could see where the man started his house on fire, to him driving 5 minutes to the Georgetown airport to immediate coverage during and after … sure it was brief chaos, but again full transparency ASAP. the only REAL reason for no transparency and non disclosure is to protect the establishment when MISTAKES and ERRORS and LACK of RESULTS are made.
Good Morning, Team BLINK!
TO GnM @ 9:44 am, I am so sorry that you were raped in high school, and I am heartbroken that your friend didn’t believe you. I BELIEVE you. I was raped when I was a very young girl–I am 40 something now. This “gentleman” lived across the street from us. My parents did not report the crime.
OBSERVER, I nominate you for president! Thank you for voice of reason and knowledge.
Blink, Your butterfly wings are creating winds of change that you will probably never be aware of. Thank you. I hope you feel better soon.
Skyler, I hope you have good news about your precious pet.
Back to business: Would/should we consider R.T. to be a “friend?
bluewillow says:
March 11, 2010 at 3:29 am
“What was he (Eppard) thinking?”
Maybe he was feeling guilty about something? Maybe he was a helper to someone else? Could explain the stall in this investigation.
Hi Blink, hope you are feeling somewhat better today. Was my post at 1:43 p.m. yesterday so ridiculous that not even one person felt an urge to comment — or did it somehow not get ‘officially’ posted?
Sorry, not sure, please repost if it did not appear.
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Blink, sorry to hear about your injury and hope you are taking care of yourself. Ever since I read the following comment, I have been curious – when you are healed, can you explain what you meant by this? If this has been addressed, I missed it.
*Blink 3/7 @ 1:17
“You also know there is nobody left to keep your secrets, that’s all gone.”*
Hi, Just Desserts — I believe that is the correct timeline for the bands — My son is coming to my home today and I will reck these times w/ him. His ticket is still in my car,and so I can ck the ticket time — The one thing I do know for certain is that at around 9 PM Metallica was not on stage and they were on break between LOG and Metallica — ’cause I spoke to my child around that time — I got back to the arena area around 9:30-ish and Metallica was absolutely on stage and playing at that time —
This is why this 8:48 timeframe has always worried me and why people kept saying maybe the friends couldn’t hear her phone convo — my son was on the floor — the friends’ seats were on the highest upper tiers in section 312 — there are vendors behind these curtains they have up — it’s possible due to people mulling about in the break there was additional noise levels — plus, we do not know where in the arena whomever Morgan spoke w/ was — were they in their seats — walking around — standing in line at the bathroom —
If we go back to the initial alleged Morgan sighting of Dave Gardner from NJ who said when Morgan’s “party” parked beside them, that Morgan was anxious to get inside the arena and the other people in her “party” — his word — were not moving fast enough for her —
I do not for one minute believe Morgan was more interested in hearing LOG than Metallica — she went to Bonaroo where Metallica played — she had Metallica posters on her bedroom walls — she was a Metallica fan — LOG got their start by covering Metallica songs — they are a heavier metal band — it is my theory that Morgan went outside to buy drugs — that the others even gave her money to buy the drugs — I do not believe Morgan was aware of the no re-entry policy — I believe Morgan had some type of contact w/ a person who sold her the drugs prior to entering that arena — whether they talked in the parking lot or someone she had knowledge of prior to the concert —
i believe Morgan got the drugs, was on her way back in for Metallica, wasn’t allowed back in. I also believe it is a strong possibility that someone gave Morgan a spiked beer — the person who saw her fall said she fell and didn’t spill the liquid in her cup — soft drinks when I was there in Feb. were sold in bottles, as well as water bottles — the only cups I saw were people who had beer —
I believe after she exhausted all attempts to re-enter the arena, she hooked back up w/ the person who sold her the drugs — kind of like: hey, it’s cold out, get in the car and I’ll bring you back after the concert —
This is why I do not believe the friends — I believe Morgan’s convo w/ the friends was that: hey, I can’t get back in — come out and sit w/ me –”No” — well, screw you — I’ll meet you at the car after the concert —
If her convo had been — listen, I’ll find my own way back home — why would the friends wait after the concert for the alleged two hours — they knew the plan was for her to return and hook back up afterwards — when two hours passed, they thought she hooked up w/ the drug guy and left the area in HER car –
Morgan’s in the car w/ the drug guy — and possibly others — where I believe she consumed the drugs she had bought in a kind of “eff you” to the friends who wouldn’t come sit w/ her outside — I believe there is a female involved in all of this — I believe there is a sexual assault — I do not believe Morgan died on the night of the 17th before the concert ended — I believe she was alive for a time, but then whoever had her was afraid she’d tell about the rape and then their little drug cartel would be over — I believe it was the female who actually killed Morgan
I have no idea why or how she ended up on AF — it makes no sense at all.
I do believe LE is working on the case as best they can — I do believe there are people in LE who have families and children of their own and who hate that this happened to this young woman, but they just don’t have the evidence to tie it all together — I believe unless someone confesses, which I do not believe is likely — Morgan’s murder will go into cold case status –
Budgets have been cut in every area of Va. govt. services, including VSP, who has the lead on this investigation — how many of their resources realistically can be devoted only to Morgan’s case ?
W/ the economy so bad, crime is escalating everywhere — people are losing their jobs, getting depressed, taking more drugs — legally or illegally — VSP, as well as all local police depts in the C-vlle area, are experiencing cut-backs, realistically have to devote resources, including human resources, ie, detectives, etc., to preventing ongoing crime, and investigation of other crimes as they come up —
Eventually Morgan’s case is going to have to be moved to the back burner —
And second worst-case scenario — suppose DNA does come back, even collected from sperm — what does it prove ? Only that Morgan had sex — even the friends left that night thinking she hooked up w/ some guy — every defense atty in the world would argue it was consensual —
best-case scenario — I hate saying this — but if Morgan was blundgeoned, say w/ a tire iron, and they can match that tire iron to marks on her skull — then they have dna, which will give them probable cause for a search warrant for a vehicle and they find blood matching Morgan’s on the tire iron —
But again, I feel horrible that unless someone confesses, which is highly unlikely, there will be no arrest any time soon —
Again, I hope I am 100 % wrong
As to my animals — I don’t think I’m targeted — my cat went missing the 2nd day I moved here — and there was a bear — literally — in the neighborhood — there is also a bob cat wandering around right now — she either got lost, was hit by a car, or someone adopted her — they make those new cat collars w/ the stretch material in them, and I found her collar under the chair — so she didn’t have a collar —
As to my dog — I’m not targeted specifically, but I have heard now two people tell me “expensive” dogs are being taken — but animal control also told me it’s possible Lex went off w/ her dog buddies and they knew how to get home and she did not — plus, a lady called last night and she told me this is a heavy hunting area — there are two hunt clubs w/ over 5000 acres in a 10-mile radius — they release their dogs in November to round up the deer — and then in February and March they start collecting their dogs —
who knows ?
B – re: “I think she saw my WTH and raised me a WTF on the Fire Issue.” (March 10 at 11:21 am)
I was definitely flummoxed with the 2 a.m. scene being repeated at that address just before 9 a.m. There’s no way the charred, soggy remains on Sutherland re-erupted, yet the call was seemingly serious enough to imply that. (What time has it been confirmed MH’s remans were found?)
It also should be noted that while the 8:54 a.m. call compelled dispatch to reach out to the same dozen or so units that responded at 2 a.m., only units FM12 (which had left Sutherland earlier at 5:19 a.m.), T37 (which had left at 6:11 a.m.), and U35 (which had earlier departed Sutherland at 6:19 a.m.) actually returned (according to the log), and the latter two units stayed until after 10 a.m., with FM12 staying until about noon on Jan. 26.
To further add to the coded puzzle (albeit, if uncoded, this may not actually be a puzzle, but it is, so…) The following morning – Jan. 27 – three fire units returned to the scene around 6:45 a.m. for “Other Unclassified F,” with two departing just 10 minutes later, and unit T39 staying at the scene for another hour.
This may all be par for a major structural fire, but I have not seen a detailed report of the incident – just the disptaches related to it. Who can flesh this out for me? (and B, who asked, “While it does not prove the fire is ‘in,’ it certainly begs the question- why are 12 units recalled to the fire scene within an hour of the discovery of Morgan’s remains?”) Why indeed.
Speaking of our much-missed Blink (currently on work-release to BOC), this was funny:
“… Nice. If you weren’t already Me, posting as you, that would be some fancy turnabout, Fo schizz.”
I was thinking the same thing when my comment was held and I did not have time to post for a few days: i.e., “Uh-oh,” random circumstances have conspired to have me, a daily poster – at one time erroneously accused of being one of B’s multiple on-site personalities – “out of commission” the same time she took a few days of medically prescribed leave. Not that I care what conspiracy lurkers post on other sites, but the thought did cross my mind when you – I mean me – I mean we – were both off-line for a few. (And so it goes…)
Lastly, to your note on the BiBs and further info on them from Geller: “No dice on the 4 BiB, not discussing, although I will say I think Cville PD handled that initially?”
That be some eyebrow-arching dice, B. “Not discussing” – as in: *nothing* to discuss, or as in *refuse* to discuss? And interesting that Cville PD was the first to “handle” the witness’s account of four black-clad young men walking away from the arena with MH at 9 p.m.
Perhaps their general description raised red flags with city LE (meaning they were not known to campus PD; but rather, they were local “boys”).
I repeat: Hmmmmm…
J2K- I consider it one of the professional hilights of my tenure to see you about face after your face shushcle, and your invasive research.. *nice*. How’s the chin?
I second the request for the ‘splaination on the fire, which is, as yet, an open incident.
The VSP is not speaking about really any irrelevant or relevant witness possibilities at this point, but saying that they were more inclined to discuss when this was a mp case, now that it is a homicide, it is their job to protect a successful prosecution so I do not think it is clear.
B
Blink,
It seems our “Irish Lassie” is a tad bit upset with “DW”:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=7803468&ref=search&sid=728810235.203363504..1#!/profile.php?v=wall&ref=search&id=7803468
Sarah Szczerbiak Every day I’m losing more and more hope that I’ll ever get my guitar back.
I need to quit being so nice, and also, insist that in the future, the only time anyone but myself plays my instruments, it’s within my range of sight. This statement would even hold true if MUSE asked to use them to record an album. I’d have to be lke,”Sorry loves, but no, no, and NOOOOOO”
March 4 at 7:16pm
She also comment about maybe having to sell her extra ticket to Oxegen, wasn’t “DW” going with her to that?
Sarah Szczerbiak I can relate to the people over at the Oxegen board, nervously hoping they’ll get tickets tomorrow, as that was me LAST year. I’m glad I have mine already, though! If it sells as well as people think it might, maybe it won’t be too difficult if I do have to sell off my extra :-/
Dear Blink – hope you are feeling better.
Saramom – hugs to you.
FWIW I’m still steering toward the RSO … just got a feeling about him and it ain’t a good one. We’ll see how it shakes out. SOON I hope!
Observer – you remain an inspiration to me and (clearly) all who read this site. I was deeply moved by your powerful conversation with Dr. Harrington this morning. And, as you so cogently articulated, I’m confident that the profound impact Morgan’s assault/murder has had on so many of us is prompting a sea change – one that will eventually turn the tide in regard to the victimization of women in this country (and throughout the world). TY, friend – *clink*.
Dr. H, I am always deeply humbled when you make your presence known here, and I remain in awe of your grace and that of the equally incomparable Mrs. Harrington. I extend my deeply heartfelt appreciation to you both for continuing to share your family’s thoughts and opinions with us.
In response to Messimamm post @ March 11, 2010 at 10:34 am.
Originally, I believed that a RSO was involved due to the proximity of one in particular who lives close to AF and works close to JPJ, he met the age range I was thinking of and was re-registered a number of times since.
However, LE already has said that the was physical evidence recovered from AF and sent in for forensic testing. I really believe that if a RSO was involved, there would have been a hit on DNA already. If that were the case, though, an arrest would have already occured. So, I am now focusing on someone with no criminal history and no DNA in the database AND someone who LE has to tread carefully with, someone who has knowledge of the location, a music connection and a VT and/or Crozet connection, and someone who Morgan thought she could trust.
I also think that the 4 MIB are critical.
Blink-
The whole situation is very tragic for a number of reasons. I had read in the older postings that the VSP acknowledged that Morgan had been drinking, likely a gross understatement. Tragically much of the Virginia Tech student culture is saturated by alcohol. Off campus parties are absolutely rampant around Blacksburg. VT really needs to find a new way to address the off campus parties and student drinking problems.
16.cosmo says:
March 11, 2010 at 11:25 am
you need to stop letting men “protect” you in the “south” … guys Virginia is considered yankee territory to the rest of the country. you are not living in the 1950s anymore …
Respectfully, Cosmo, Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but I think you might be mixing your metaphors here… “Men protecting us” as a part of our culture here in Virginia has little to nothing of relevance to how much LE choses to share with the public. For the sake of clarity, as a very independent, hip, culturally aware Virginian, I never found it odd that Morgan’s group asked or nominated the one male to drive. That would be a perfectly normal assumption with myself and my friends. (On the other hand, would not be so strange for the owner of the car to drive, or really any designated driver.) Frankly, in light of all the responsibility I have to assume for my children, family members, home and neighbors, I am thrilled to have a “man offer to take care of me” and do the driving.
Now, about the dissemination of information to the public, I am as frustrated as all here, but I think it’s a stretch to assume that anyone keeping info from us has anything to do with “men protecting us in the south.”
PS: Virginia was a proud participant of the U.S. Confederacy. Respectfully, I submit that she is not, was not, and shall never be considered “Yankee territory.”
oblio says:
March 11, 2010 at 12:16 pm
bluewillow says:
March 11, 2010 at 3:29 am
“What was he (Eppard) thinking?”
Maybe he was feeling guilty about something? Maybe he was a helper to someone else? Could explain the stall in this investigation.
Yes I hope LE has Eppards’ DNA to compare with what was found on Morgan.
Feel better Blink.
Blink:
another question from me. On the search weekend, every single one of us signed in at the, what I’ll call the receiving desk.
We were asked for our driver’s license and the nice lady copied it.
We filled out a form of our name and such and if we had any skills that would help. (ie: law, medical, hiking, etc).
Did all search and rescue teams fill out this same form?
Were they cleared some other way? Did someone get in without filling out a form?
My point is if I believe and Dr. Harrington had said earlier, that he (BG) was at the search then wouldn’t Laura Search Center have these records?
Maybe one could run down who was there. Maybe he came with friends?
Cosmo, I understand that many people might consider Virginia to be a northern state but believe me, living here is proof that it is still very much a part of the “good ole south”. I’m not sure where you live, maybe you also live in Virginia and feel differently, but I have lived in Charlottesville for 27 years and while it is a fairly liberal city, that is only in comparison to the rest of the state! LOL!
this little quote brought over from Wiki…
“The Commonwealth of Virginia ( /vərˈdʒɪnjə/ ) is a U.S. state on the Atlantic Coast of the Southern United States…Virginia was one of the Thirteen Colonies in the American Revolution and joined the Confederacy in the American Civil War, during which Richmond was the Confederate capital…During the war, more battles were fought in Virginia than anywhere else”
Believe me, there are more people in Virginia that stick to their southern roots than anyone who believes it is a northern state, especially once you travel outside of Northern Va/DC area or 5 miles outside of Charlottesville city limits! I am not here claiming any loyalty to “The South” but a high percentage of our residents are. We are slowly making headway though and moving into the 21st century (at least I hope so)
But yes, we are definitely not in the 1950′s anymore! Ladies, it is very important learn to protect yourselves and not wait for a man to do it! I am a female living in Virginia as well but it is my car and I will drive it even if my husband is accompanying me! LOL!
Anyways, as to Virginia’s laws about disclosure of info to the public vs the states that have open disclosure: yes some of these other cases have been solved quickly in some instances, but this is not only because of disclosure. The evidence in these cases is very different than in Morgan’s case. There was nothing for them to follow, the trail of evidence just ended abruptly.
There have been flyers up in every store, restaurant, telephone pole, message boards, laundry mats and grocery stores that I have been in since October. There have been community meetings, public and private searches and no one found anything that led to where Morgan was until Mr Bass found her remains. It is practically impossible to solve a case with no physical evidence to follow.
I am definitely not an “establishment” girl and I do agree that our “establishment” definitely tries to protect itself from public embarrassment and scrutiny during times of trouble. Just look at the mess with ACPD right now, the Colby Eppard situation, the serial rapist that was basically caught by one of his own victims not LE, the high speed police chases through quiet neighborhoods etc. But with regard to the VSP, FBI and CPD I do believe that they are getting close on this case and I have respect for the job that they are doing with this investigation.
As much as I want all the little details and I want to know if they decided that EMH is not a POI, or who they have interviewed or interrogated and cleared of being a suspect, and all of that other stuff, it could jeopardize the case. I am not in LE and therefore it is not technically my job to solve this case. Of course as a community member I want to solve this case immediatley and I want ALL the information now, but I know that is not how this state operates.
I agree that it is the time to try and get these laws changed but this is a very conservative and mostly republican state. It is also a very old state with very old families and very old money and some of our laws have been on the books for hundreds of years and are not likely to be changed over night.
We have to take it one step at a time. Here is one recent example of this type of change that is slowly taking shape here:
“Republican Governor Bob McDonnell’s Executive Directive issued late Wednesday that bans discrimination in state agencies, schools, and departments based on sexual orientation” This was in direct response to our “Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli’s opinion that colleges and universities rescind portions of non-discrimination policies that include “sexual orientation” was gaining steam statewide.”
One battle at a time, but in the meantime I still trust that LE is making headway in this case even if they don’t share all of the little details with me!
re: palerider says:
March 10, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Hello to all. Below is my link to Change.org and my new cause for mandatory sentencing and registration for sex offenders. Hope everyone will take a look and cast a vote.
Also, do VA judges come up for re-election? Just saying if Judge Michael Irvine is an elected official he can be voted out of office!
I also passed the link onto Monica Caison at the Cue Center for Missing Persons. I also posted it on my FB page. When I signed yesterday it had 4 signatures and now it has 18. Thanks again for doing this.
Kathy
This is OT, but MsL, PM1, and Josie…did you see that win????
GnM my first read of your name is “grandmom” but now I know where you get your “GoodnMad”. You are a strong woman, as is everyone who has endured an assult of any kind.
Kathy – I seem to missing something – where does Sarah mention DW on her fb page?
Also, did anyone comment on why we believe DW is really DM? TIA
blink: one more thing:
was DW at the search? WOULD BE EASY TO CHECK.
O/T: JMU hosted Villanova Football on 10/17/09.
Lots of parties and bands.
Myspace postings:
morgan dana harrington 2-4-1Posted at 9:00 PM Nov 2, 2009 from Mobile
Mood: (none)
DW god i hope they find her alive
Mood:(none)
Posted at 5:02 PM Oct 19, 2009 from Mobile
commentmessage
DW
Mood:whoa shrooms
Posted at 7:25 PM Sep 2, 2009 from Mobile
Posting to a friend of his:
“Oct 19 2009 10:51 PM
no i’m fine. but this girl, morgan harrington, went missing at the metallica concert. if you’ve seen the news. well i had spoken with her that night, and i just feel like i should’ve done more to help. i feel quite distraught about it.”
Just need to be given a direction of where to go. Maybe we all are shifting into a support role. It happens. Friends of mine felt like they reached a point where they could do nothing. They felt like all they could do was contribute their love and sympathy. It saddens me that I (we) cannot provide more to Morgan’s family. I wish that we all could. Should I keep on keepin’ on head-bangin’ or should I just lurk for awile.
O/T again:
It has been a sad week in my family. See one never not feels the loss. A huge hole in your heart that never quite fully heals, no matter how much Neosporin! You always have a flash of a face or a memory that makes you laugh, makes you cry, and sometimes makes you do both at the same time!
All these families that suffer losses are in a club that they never wanted to be in. It makes one ill and people look at you differently.
My advise to all of you out there…do not blame the victim!
Even if she or he didn’t follow the gifts of fear, or what their parents taught them, or what they learned in school. It is the bad guys and girls that have done them in. Raining down pain that is so unbearable at times, you want it all to end. The destruction and devastation of the family unit, that is. But, we pick up the pieces and go on. Children are left motherless, fatherless. Grieving beyond comprehension. The wailing, that I hope none of you will never, ever hear and that my friends, is a good thing. No one needs to have that inserted into their memory banks.
Sometimes I find myself wanting to make phone calls, drive-bys of houses, and ask questions like, “What made you do it?” But I believe in our law enforcement and justice system. It does work just sometimes very slowly. Slowly and methodically. They will get you.
Mrs. Harrington, from one mother to another, can I get mad for you? Get really mad? Not that one needs more maddness, in this time.
Can I do something to make it better? To ease your pain? I have said it before, we all wanted to bring your daughter home alive. Many of us had said that and well, what is…is what it is. Death, that we have in common. Although, we do not know each other. But that doesn’t mean I (we) don’t want justice or are going to give up. I’ve just lost my way during a terrible week for me. I need to be redirected. See, I am not a good leader…just a good follower!
Much love and support from fish and family
(I’m no longer ashamed of signing that.
It is who I am! A Blue-gill variety!)
MsL post:
As much as we would all like to think that the person(s) responsible for Morgan’s death must be displaying outward signs to family or friends, it’s just possible that this person(s) is/are so devoid of the normal human’s sense of guilt that he/they are going about daily life as if absolutely nothing happened. Scary thought that someone could be so evil, but we all know that such people do exist.
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Isn’t that part of the definition of a sociopath???
Glad you are back Blink, even though it is not at full capacity. J2K you, my friend are only adding fuel to the fire- pun intended regarding you and Blink being one and the same…
I feel like I am not following along with any one general way of thinking here at BOC… Have we all moved our cheese? Or have we all went back to the beginning?
I know for me, I am trying to focus on the location and the music scene.
I wonder if LE will release when they believe Morgan was placed at the location- was it that night? Was she already gone or ? – Gils post saying she finds it an honor and duty to wear Morgan’s clothes and boots has me thinking… What a remarkable mother Gil is… Were Morgan’s boots with her, her shirt? her tights? Or were they returned to Gil after being found through out c-ville?
Lol, sorry Mom, that was my bad about furthering the she/me. I found it ridiculous then as I do now, so I was just funnnin’.
I think your exactly right about focusing on on the nightlife and music associations. No, I have not moved my cheese except to say I am starting to believe this “crowd” is in the know but many have something to hide?
Not ripe yet, but working.
B
palerider says:
March 10, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Hello to all. Below is my link to Change.org and my new cause for mandatory sentencing and registration for sex offenders. Hope everyone will take a look and cast a vote.
Also, do VA judges come up for re-election? Just saying if Judge Michael Irvine is an elected official he can be voted out of office!
Thanks!
http://www.change.org/actions/view/mandatory_registration_and_prison_terms_for_all_violent_sexually_based_offenders
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Thank you palerider! (hook ‘em horns) This is great way to put some actions into our collective thoughts. I have signed and will encourage friends to go check it out. Thank you for giving us an avenue for action.
Dolce
I’m glad to see questions about the Sutherland fire are continuing to percolate. As a local I just know that is too close and too timely to be a coincidence. I have no idea how to assist in finding answers – but I support your search!
Dolce
Chromedaffodils says:
March 10, 2010 at 11:58 am
Thank you for responding friend!
Agreed! I do believe she was aware of the no re-entry rule was well. I just question if she intended to ‘stay’ for the duration of the concert to meet up with someone disguising to be someone else. I believe she left on her own coginition, texted her friends saying she couldn’t get back in and that she had a ride or could find one. I’m saddened that this turned out to be her demise. I agree with Blink, SHE KNEW HIM. She was literally entrapped and could not possibly of seen it coming. I also believe HE was in attendance at the concert too. No coincidences here.
JMHO