Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Funding For The Defense Hearing Today
While the web and blogosphere is clogged with the latest scandal to feature Tot Pop George Anthony and his nature walks of rivers and skies-
I would like to refocus efforts on a more pressing matter; the hearing on behalf of Casey Anthony regarding the indingency petition that has recently been approved through Orange County Clerk of Courts.
J to da A to da C
Justice Administrative Commission. The organization that is funded by Florida tax dollars has the biggest dog in this fight. While they do not pay for private attorney fees, they do cover investigative, administrative, travel, and expert witness costs for the defense. It is not unheard of for the JAC to fund such expenses for a murder trial, but I could not find a single comparable case where a defendant plays the indigent card 18 months into a case where they have received outside funds directly.
Note: this is an ammended petition, meaning the first petition which was filed the day of her arrest July 17th, 2008 where she stated she had an income of $1400 per month, $600 per month in expenses and $1200 in savings, is up for grabs.
My suggested aptly framed inquiry:
Miss Anthony– were you aware when you filled out your application for a handout that stealing cash from your Mother, embezzeling from the hospitalized-ederly and scamming cash from friends is not actually considered earning capacity or earned income?
NO WAY JOSE
Are you like me?
Are we all thinking that Judge Strickland has done a fantastic job in this case so far?
Yes, he bends over backward and has endless patience for Mr. Baez et al and on occasion I grind my molars while remembering it is essential to avoid appellate issues.
I would like to implore him to stay that course. There is tremendous pressure on him to progress the due process of this case.
That said, I do NOT think the burden of this trial, and undoubtedly the second trial should be paid for by the good citizens of Florida while the defense team jets the globe on book tours or Geraldo.
NO OTHER COMPENSATION OR THINGS OF VALUE HAVE BEEN PAID OR ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE PAID TO THE ATTORNEY IN THE FUTURE IN THIS CASE
According to Ms. Anthony, she was able to work her three hots and a cot fund to eek out enough cash to pay a combined $110,000 to Baez and Lyon.
Yes folks, the girl who has not been employed since 2006 has developed a penchant for earning a living.
EXCEPT:
You have got to be half crikey to believe this girl has only paid out $110K in fees. If that is accurate, then someone else is bankrolling an accused baby murderer and that will need to be disclosed. Mr. Baez got “by” by allegedly disclosing the source of his fee payments during the in camera portion of the States Motion regarding a potential conflict of interest on his behalf last March.
Since then, one of Casey’s lawyers, Todd Macaluso, who had a seperate retainer agreement with her according to his own pro hac vice, has had to leave the team due to his issues of comingling client trust accounts.
Jose Baez is now asking for help with “costs” from the State.
I say, if you want the state to pay you, you need to disclose the amount of cash BOTH you and your client received from ALL sources of income, a review of your Quicken outlining specific expense allocations and billable hours and then answers to the following:
If Casey, through affidavit, is stating she paid only two lawyers, in total, on this case in the last 18 months, how were the following legal resources outside of The Baez Law Firm compensated for their work to date?
Terrence Lenemon
“I would venture to believe that they are going to require Jose to disclose what monies he’s received because that becomes an issue at hand,” Lenamon said.
“[Baez's] got a responsibility going into this case of making sure that he maximizes his money that’s being spent. If he didn’t do that, then the judge is going to hold him accountable to that.”
Mike Walsh
Michael Walsh, one of Anthony’s attorneys, told FOX News on Tuesday that she initially had not been forthcoming with the timeline of Caylee’s disappearance because the babysitter had made threats and Anthony feared for her daughter’s safety.
Jonathan Kasen
KASEN: We had filed a motion probably two months ago, a motion to either stay or defer the civil matter until the resolution of the criminal case. Judge Gonzalez, for whatever the reason, or it should be Judge Rodriguez I apologize — for whatever the reason denied the request and allowed the lawyers for Zenaida Gonzales to submit written questions in lieu of a deposition.
Linda Kenney Baden
“The person who seemed to be so guilty — it turns out he was innocent,” Linda Kenney Baden told NBC News in a report that aired Friday on TODAY.
Todd Macaluso
“There is substantial evidence … that the body or the remains of Caylee Anthony were placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up in the Orange County correctional facility. … And that proves her innocence.”
Dr. Henry Lee
LEE: Not right now. My initial agreement was just to examine the car, to look at the car. So I don`t know any other evidence. And of course, a lot depends on the schedule and — to look at the hair or not. And I`m sure if it`s important — Larry — Dr. Kobilinsky is another excellent forensic scientist. I`m sure he can look at the hair, too.< ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Dr. Lawrence Kobilinski
Let`s go to Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky, famed forensic scientist out of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. He is a consultant on the Casey Anthony defense team. You heard what Lee had to say about Oak Ridge Laboratories, the Body Farm. Do you agree or disagree?
Dr. Kathy Reichs
“Given that there’s no evidence as to the cause of death, … you could have an accidental death and a mother that panics,” she told King. “There are alternative explanations.”
Marti Mackenzie
“I am happy I could be of help in the months I worked as the media representative,” she said. “The most important thing is that we made a clean transition so that the coverage on this will have a point person on the defense team.”
On a lighter note, You will be glad to know The BAEZ LAW FIRM cut Casey a break on the fraud charge by not biling her. Although, that makes no sense in itself because Mr. Baez paid $664.25 full restitution on Casey’s behalf via money order to Bank of America on July 15, 2009.. From what account?
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Hey Blink, any chance you might be thinking what I am thinking that old Jose is going to find himself right next to Mac spend clients monies the wrong way? chain, Chain a fool!
True dat y’all
B
friend
U are right about the paper trail!
I am so sure the paper shredders in the baez law firm were working over time..
Blink
???
Can Judge S get called on the carpet for being to easy on the defense. I agree he may be a good judge but so far I just dont like his leniency will it ever change?? what do you think>
And most IMPORTANT!! QUESTION???
Do you think the JAC will make them give full disclosure because we know baez is so full of Caca ALIAS POOP CHIT!!
that he is about to explode !!
Read the newest on eggtree news—funny.
Rant over sorry !!
no I am not sorry
Rant over
dee #25 you’d be acting just like KC if you’ve fooled all these high-powered bafoons into thinking you accidentally killed your child and are very, very sorry(boohoo). Especially knowing how evily you killed her. I’ll bet she wants to bust out laughing knowing what a genious she is.
“He is the best chance there is at a plea, imo”
Blink I hope that is why they brought this Hot Head on board, I can’t imagine a jury sitting for weeks listening to this new guys banter, he was snotty and rude, he reminded me of an attorney on one of those old Perry Mason Movies……
It will never get that far. Mason Cheney is a professional, and very well respected attorney.
He will figure out toot sweet that Baez has been less than honest in his dealings and there will be a plea or will be outta there.
B
ok I am not being funny when I say this, but, LKB looks lovely is this why she has been MIA looks like she had a lil nippy nip, seriously she does look great, lovely smile tight neck, just what a girl needs in a defense attorney.
hahahah 30 min into segment 1 Mason snaps “its nobody’s business” my hubby, nose deep in his work, spun around in his chair and said Who’s running this F’n Court Room…. ahhaahahhaa I never knew he even paying attention to this mess….shocked me
http://www.rankinbass.com/wallpaper1.htm
I couldn’t figure out where I had seen Mr. Mason…but now I know….it was the North Pole.
http://www.wftv.com/video/22877854/index.html
wa wa wa wa wait a minute did he just bring up 5k donated to CA Defense, is this the 5k from sky “River” mountian Cruz????
15:18 min in
Was Baez throwing George a bone there?
Per Chaney Mason: He took the case b/c it’s FUN! FUN…..since when is a murdered child FUN? One of the reporters should have whacked him over the head with a microphone for that comment.
http://www.wftv.com/video/22877854/index.html
about 17:25 mins in
Fruedian Slip? This case began in June, opps I mean I was retained June 17th…hmmmm
Caylee last seen June 16th, did Casey hire Baez June 17th…or is Jose just a lil nervous…
I have read before that some think Casey was in contact with Baez prior too July 16th.
Any takers?
Sorry folks for hoggin the board these court hearing get my goat, is Baez so Green he didn’t know he should be prepared about where the money was going…..did he think he was in court today for a parking ticket? This case was about funding and he didnt prepare himself to openly discuss this money…..opps I forgot (per Mason) “it is nobody’s business”
Mason is a real bully, I hope the SA is taking notes in regards to his unprofessional antics his rude outburst and in turn during trial shut him down, sad to say I would rather listen to Baez and his duh duh duh then listen to this Grumpy Old Man.
In part one of the hearing, I noticed Andrea Lyon handed KC a piece of folded paper that she (Andrea) received (handed Andrea) from the officer sitting behind Mason. The paper hand off happened just after Cindy and George entered the court room. At mark 7:25. KC looks at the paper briefly and places it on the table. Wonder if it was a note from Cindy. Is it kosher for Cindy to be passing notes? Link below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkhUbRbwBU
I am in moderation. I typed my name in wrong. S/B kp-in. I just too excited.
I have never, never heard an attorney call a murder case of a precious child (or anyone else) fun! WTH!!!!
Reading CNN.com’s coverage of the case, I have to applaud Judge Strickland. Bottom line, he is making the defense accountable for their request for public funds.
QUOTE:
“My problem is, you’re seeking public funds,” Strickland said, telling attorneys they are “trying to punch and get out of the way at the same time.” Affidavits submitted by the defense, he said, were “pretty light in terms of full disclosure.” He had the attorneys testify in court Thursday.
Strickland deferred a ruling on the issue until he receives not only the defense attorneys’ testimony, but also information from the Justice Administrative Commission, the state agency that oversees funding. The commission has opposed allocating funding for Anthony’s defense, saying in court papers it has “severe concerns” about whether she qualifies for financial assistance.
UNQUOTE
According the CNN, Baez testified that HE has spent about 2500 hours on the case and has received $89,454, according to financial affidavits released by the court. Ladies and gentleman, that amounts to a whopping $35.78/hr. NO WAY JOSE!!!!
My favourite….$5000 came from an anonymous donor. REALLY?????
I am praying that the defenses has to hand over every single record detailing to the penny what has been given to the defense and how it was spent. Stay the course Strickland. So far, so good.
Did anyone notice Andrea Lyon handing a folded note to KC. The officer behind Mason handed the note (paper) to Andrea. KC looked at it briefly and placed the paper on the table. Just wondering. Happened about marker 7:25 just after George and Cindy enter the court room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkhUbRbwBU
http://www.wftv.com/video/22880272/index.html
Last post I promise, please Dear God in Heaven please help me understand why this Court Jester just said that trying this case of Caylee’s Murder would be FUN….FUN did he really say FUN?
Shame On You, you disrespectful mean old man, that statement made me angry and also shed a tear again for this lil angel..
As Judge Judy would say to someone that shows up without proper evidence or proof, “where did you think you were going today?”
George should have brought a mirror with him to court so he could have someone to talk to……but Conman did roll into court and kept him company……..Maybe Ms. Lyon can become Mr. Masons Della Street..tho I think she may be shown the door soon….
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2009-06-24/news/cheney_1_mason-serrano-college-of-law
Student takes lawyer Cheney Mason’s murder-case dare seriously
June 24, 2009|By Amy L. Edwards, Sentinel Staff Writer
Prominent Orlando attorney Cheney Mason was confident his client couldn’t have gunned down four people in the time prosecutors said he did. So Mason told a national TV audience he’d pay $1 million to anyone who could show otherwise.
When Mason issued that challenge more than two years ago on Dateline NBC, someone took him literally.
Now, that viewer wants Mason — one of Central Florida’s most high-profile and outspoken criminal-defense lawyers — to pay up.
Dustin Kolodziej filed suit against Mason last week in federal court in Houston, claiming breach of contract.
At issue is a statement Mason made about the state’s theory of how Nelson Ivan Serrano was able to kill his former business partner, a prosecutor and two others at a Polk County manufacturing plant in 1997. Serrano was sentenced to death in 2007.
A surveillance video captured Serrano at an Atlanta hotel the day of the murders.
During the 2006 trial, the prosecution explained Serrano’s complicated murder plot, which involved his buying airline tickets under three names from Orlando and Tampa airports so he could appear to be in Atlanta the afternoon of the slayings.
The route involved Serrano flying from Atlanta to Orlando, driving to Bartow, where the murders occurred, and then catching a flight back to Atlanta.
Serrano’s defense argued there was no way Serrano could have committed the murders and make it back to Atlanta, where he was recorded at the hotel.
Kolodziej, who just graduated from South Texas College of Law, said he retraced Serrano’s route across two states and made the final leg of the journey within the required time. He taped his excursion and sent the video to Mason along with a letter demanding the $1 million. Mason, according to the lawsuit, refused to pay more than once.
On Monday, Mason had yet to be served with the suit. But after reading a copy provided by the Orlando Sentinel, Mason called it “ridiculous.”
“I’m really unconcerned about it,” Mason said. “When it’s over, somebody or some group of people out there are going to have to face the consequences of filing such a false, stupid lawsuit.”
As outlandish as it seems, legal experts say there are plenty of cases like it.
Robert Jerry, dean of the University of Florida’s Levin College of Law, said there are situations throughout the history of contract law in which people made bluffs, bets or challenges, and courts found the person who heard the statement was reasonable in thinking the speaker was serious.
June 24, 2009|By Amy L. Edwards, Sentinel Staff Writer
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In some cases, the person was required to pay up.
Stetson University law professor James W. Fox said he thinks there’s probably enough to Mason’s case for a judge to take it seriously — and not dismiss the suit.
According to a transcript of the December 2006 Dateline episode, NBC’s Ann Curry asked whether there was enough time for Serrano to commit the four murders. An unidentified person said, “The defense says no.”
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“I challenge anybody to show me,” Mason said. “I’ll pay them a million dollars if they can do it.”
Fox gave an example of a similar case in which the person was required to pay:
In the late 1960s, a Missouri museum operator claimed outlaw Jesse James wasn’t shot and killed in 1882, but instead changed his name and lived on for many more years. The museum operator made a television appearance and offered $10,000 to anyone who could prove him wrong. James’ daughter-in-law proved otherwise and wanted the money. A court ordered the museum operator to pay.
Kolodziej’s lawyer, David George of Houston, said his client’s case is not complicated. George said Kolodziej did not think Mason was joking when he issued his challenge.
“He definitely took it seriously,” George said.
In response to Kolodziej’s first demand for the $1 million, Mason told the then-law student in January 2008 that his TV statement was a joke.
According to the suit, Mason wrote Kolodziej: “[C]ertainly neither you (reasonably) or anybody else could think that there was a clear intention to pay anybody a million dollars or any other amount.”
The suit said that after Kolodziej contacted Mason a second time, the lawyer said he would consider any further communications from Kolodziej “to be in the nature of attempted extortion and/or mail fraud, and will act accordingly.”
I now recall watching the serrano case on court tv and mason in action like an arrogant bulldog that he is.
allow me to post this I seen elsewhere but thought we may enjoy!!
There was a doctor, a lawyer and a minister in a boat surrounded by sharks. They bet each other that they could swim to the shore and escape the sharks. The doctor jumped in, the sharks surrounded him and he jumped back in the boat. The minister jumped in, same thing, jumped in the boat. The lawyer jumped in, the sharks parted, he swam to the shore and was drying himself off. The doctor yelled, why didn’t the sharks attack you? The lawyer said, “Professional courtesy.”
Can someone please help me. I’ve listened to the hearing on the WFTV site. In part 2 at about 17:25 it sounds like Jose baez says he was retained on June 17th. I could be wrong, but should this not be July 17th. Has there not been much speculation about how he got involved in this case and when?
That was E X A C T L Y what he said, under oath.
B
Sounds to me like that person on the radio program that claimed to be a witness in Baez’s deal with ABC needs to contact JAC!!!
Yes that was a very hot mess today.
The defense as usual came unprepared to fully answer any questions about their acquired money and expenses.
Mason is a cocky SOB who says in the WFTV interview after court that he will walk Casey out of the court on acquittal, that he is retiring, this case being part of it because it is going to be fun to defend. FUN..is he F’ing out of his mind! Way to win over the taxpayers and future jurors in Florida.
Well..Mr Hot Mess Fun Times Mason…you may be in for a few rude surprises. I wouldn’t be counting my chickens before they hatch or retiring just yet. If he wanted to go out on a winning case (since his last case he lost big time), ah it ain’t gonna be this one either.
Blink one more person who hasn’t been paid by Casey and her team is Dom Casey….if I were him I’d be on the phone to make sure my name is on the list of those she still owes.
Lordy..what a bunch of lunatics can do when they are let loose in society with a legal degree. And we suffer having to watch them and pay for the experience.
You betcha. Baez admitted investigators were paid, which ones?
B
Interesting that Judge Strickland commented on ‘River…’ issue this morning, but he was overshadowed by other information from the lawyers. Point is, he was aware of River and an issue coming out already. Why would that be, if it wasn’t part of some motion or some in camera disclosure now public?
It could be that the River issue was part of the in camera discussion one month ago, if not the only thing at issue, as we know now.
Could it have been the defense posturing with those women, to bring out in public on National Velvet Grace, the words ‘accident, accidental’. When the jury hears that, they will remember they heard that before, not new to them.
ABC deal was done with an attorney representing SEVERAL owners of copyrighted content……hmmmm, Cindy & George??? Baez owns some of that content, too?
‘Xactly.
OWNERS… SEVERAL..
SO.. if they paid her $200k, what did everyone else get?
B
If Cheney Mason were to get Casey off with the words ‘aquittal’ as Mason predicted today, Baez would be out there with the biggest rake and bucket he could muster to haul in his booty from deals to be made. Casey would be one very wealthy young woman.
Would Todd Macaluso really have intended to loose the 70 grand even if they got ‘innocent Casey’ off and she became able to pay back? You bet it was a loan which might be forgiven if things went bad.
the article is here: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-jail-letters-20100318,0,1826969.story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnkhUbRbwBU
Good point, the deputy sitting on our left of the defense passes Andrea Lyon a folded piece of paper (after Andrea gets up to get it and her purse/bag left on the floor by him, and she takes it to Casey, slips it to her from Casey’s left below table height, Casey puts it on the table.
Passing notes in school! (it’s just after the gum chewing comment by court clerk and Sierra’s note about that).
Is this legal? Passing notes from the officer to lawyer to accused? Why this route if it’s legal, why not just go directly to Casey from her mother? Could have been anything inside that double folded paper.
I just do not understand how ABC & Baez & the Scamfamily can get by with this! I am outraged! What is it going to take to stop this madness?
Turn off your TV when anything Caylee related is on.
Dont buy the National Enquirer or related publications.
Stop buying products that sponsor them in their media purchases.
If everyone did that for a few days, a week, it would send a message, imo.
B
good point kleat.
ABC deal was done with an attorney representing SEVERAL owners of copyrighted content……hmmmm, Cindy & George??? Baez owns some of that content, too?
‘Xactly.
OWNERS… SEVERAL..
SO.. if they paid her $200k, what did everyone else get?
B
Yes, I do.
B
blink???
will it ever be disclosed yu think???
Just remembered, on the ‘live’ version this morning, the very end as almost everyone had left the courtroom, Andrea went over to a guard and spoke with him, just thought of that– it would likely have been the same officer who gave the note to Andrea to give to Casey.
(thought it was odd that Andrea would make a point of speaking to an officer, and thought at the time, she was being very nice to say thanks to him for something)
Blink, after reading Hal’s article from the Orlando Sentinel I’m a little concerned with the wording from ABC spokesman. They say that the deal is done with the attorney, but they did not state that there is not other deal and what about Baez when asked about other deals. He spoke that Casey herself had made the deal with ABC but if the statement from the ABC spokesman is true then it was through Baez. Could he get in trouble for that?
I so think that he is such a slime ball, sorry, but, I don’t believe at all that he’s telling the whole truth.
Note that the court clerk had her ‘if you are chewing come remove it’ to the attendees, I wonder if Judge Strickland had been bothered by ignorant gum chewers in the past. We know of two who tended to do it consistently, not discreetly either.
Good boycott point, Blink. No one go to Disney either! Or watch the Disney channel, oops, we can’t go to WFTV either, they had the best reception this morning on the live coverage though.
What about ABC Detergent??????!!! ;0
Oh! BOC, thanks for the different perspectives and staying on top of this case. Especially, educating us on the possible back room deals? I never thought much about people doing things on so call “pro bono” with the rights of there work products intact that they can do with what ever they want after the a case is completed. It seems like people are always thinking of ways to get around the rules. Maybe if kept out in the open in the public eye then the rules can be revisited and amended? Am I making any sense? Unbelievable!!!
Cindy sure was dressed ‘down’ today. I guess that she wanted to dress the part….you know, house in foreclosure and all.
http://www.bloggernews.net/124070
Casey Anthony – Andrea Lyon – Beat Or Dead Beat?Posted on March 18th, 2010 by Simon Barrett in crimeRead 53 times.Todays hearing on Casey Anthony’s indigent status gave me pause for thought. Particularly about the dream team’s choice of Death Penalty expert Andrea Lyon. Neither her nor Jose Baez thought it important to bring any financial evidence to a hearing about financial aspects.
Even the dumbest contestants on ‘Judge Judy’ know better!
WAG THE DOG! It’s not important how many hours were billed, It’ not important who was paid beyond Lyon & Jose! The taxpayes of Florida
need better than this. The State of Florida needs a full accounting of all monies spent in this case. When the JAC asked that they would
like Casey to stand and say she has no money, and (Mr Fun to Try this case) said no way. So you don’t know, and state don’t know if she does in fact has something in the works. The Lyon & Jose have nothing but we don’t know if Casey has nothing. This was never asked in court today. HOW COME??
fROM HER LIPS TO GODS EARS, I want to know from Casey herself. I want her to speak the words, I have no deal in the works!
ok quesion???
Blink
are you suggesting we dont watch hln or anything on tv casey/caylee related and the sponsors of the programs? just need clarification.
By the way blink have I told you lately how much you are appreciated and how awesome you are. You are so respected because of the way you talk to us your approach is always kind ! never rude !!
that makes you special. hell your even nice to people that come here to attack.
TY friend
B
geeez casey is totaly mental she acted like she wanted to break out in giggles!! her eyes about to pop out of their sockets. looked like bingo balls without numbers.
anyways the girl is touched in the head!!!
whats with the giggle thing with her and her brother !!
this is NOT a laughing matter she is possibly facing execution and she acts like she is ready to flip out just seeing her supress her giggle makes me boil!!!!
I never have and never will buy the national enquierer and especialy more so now!!!
Sharma,
Judge Judy would have also asked Casey, what was so funny, and then would have told her to wipe the smile off of her face. lol
kp