Caylee/Casey Anthony Trial: Sidebar Silliness- Baez Concerned Casey Will Be Viewed As a Lesbian And Other Wishful Thinking
Orlando, FL- I know, everyone was looking for my analysis for the week on some of the most influential forensics evidence and experts to date. You will have to wait. I could simply not let this go. Jose Baez, defense counsel for accused Filicidial frequent fornicator Casey Anthony is concerned his client might be viewed as a lesbian by the jury based on some photos in evidence.
I can’t take it. I thought I could, I thought I could keep it objective. I admit it, he is a Barristerific Baffoon Extroirdinaire.
This defendant, this woman, with multiple simultaneous male sexual partners, an unknown baby daddy, the prosecution bases it’s case on the fact that she has a new boyfriend she is willing to kill her child over, and this is HIS REACTION?
“I would just lay out for our argument that any photos that would implicate or insinuate in any way that my client is a lesbian through the dancing she is doing with this other woman…”
It is maddening what an oaf this guy is with respect to being charged with saving a defendant’s life. Having a jury perceive Casey as a lesbian is like Christmas in June for his client. Not a lot of cases of lesbian-motivated filicide out there, and what is, is likely to be a new suspect for this suspect generating camp.
At that point Perry cuts him off and asks, “Have you been to nightclubs in the last three or four years?”
Baez says he has been, but noted that the average age of the jurors is 50 and that some members “would be extremely offended” by the image.
This from the business owner turned attorney of the now defunct Brazillian Bikini online store.
Seriously.
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Have you all seen this?
Another transcript of sidebar has been released to the media and it’s outrageous! MOO
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28227726/index.html
Judge Perry is quite upset with the defense team and outright calls Cheney Mason a liar during the sidebar.
(snip from the video linked above)
Judge Perry – “Then y’all lied to me.”
Mason – “No.”
Judge – “Yes, the hell you did.”
Blink I am sorry to keep asking you so many questions but I have followed this case since day one – watched every news show and followed your site since 2008. I know that the majority wins as far as the penalty phase – but what about the guilty phase. If the vote of guilty is not unanimous will she walk? What will happen if the jury can’t decide?
I too want the prosecution to discuss the 4th piece of rare Henkel duct tape. And in conjunction with that – the awful stain on the trunk liner that, arguably, shows the inprint of Caylee in fetal position with her arms bound BEHIND her body IN CASEY’S TRUNK. That, to me, is very compelling evidence. That shows Caylee IN the trunk of Casey’s car just as much as any hair evidence, IMO. That also shows premeditation, and knocks any theory about facial duct tape being used to prevent liquids from escaping (rolling eyes over that carp). What would be a reason to bind the hands of a child that drowned?
36.Charlotte says:
June 14, 2011 at 9:21 am
You guys have got to check out this video about the sidebar yesterday.
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/28227726/index.html
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Charlotte – very interesting indeed. Seems to me a little bit of Casey’s lying habit has transferred over to her Defense team. This makes me ponder two things.
First – either they are so confused based on the evidence that the Prosecution has presented, that all their magic tricks are now exposed and they can’t present them as previously planned. They weren’t really lying, they just can’t present what evidence they had planned to share at this point, because it would be obviously fabricated at best.
or Second – Baez himself is lying that he is a defense lawyer much like Casey has lied that she is a good mother. They both actually live at Disneyworld – in Fantasyland of course, and he thinks the Judge just loves him, in fact, when this is all over, he is going to come over for a cookout!
37.myers says:
June 14, 2011 at 9:32 am
In regards to the gas can showdown at the Anthony home on the 24th. Seems to me that Casey would have never gone into that home if George’s vehicle was there. Has never made sense to me. She has tried to remain out of sight and she is gonna take a chance and go into the home. George even says something to the effect that she jumped at the sight of him. FISHY!!!!
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Agreed. After she killed Caylee, she avoided her parents with more lies and more deceit. She would keep on driving if she knew a confrontation with her dad would happen. She didn’t want to run the chance of being questioned about Caylee….which leads me to my next thought….at one point, Casey’s female friend (can’t remember her name) mentioned during questioning that Casey told her that her parents were splitting up and were going to get give Casey the house. The plan was that the two girls were going to live there as roomies….Is it just me, or does this just sing “I am going to off my parents soon, make up some big lies about where they are” and live off their checkbooks (as done in the past) and live happily ever after in Hot Body land…. Psychopaths have been known to do this sort of thing…get rid of anyone who stands in their way of their happiness…because as we all know…”Its all about Casey”….
Interesting to note, the exhibits/evidence, at the discretion of the court, will be available to the jury during their deliberations:
Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure
3.400. MATERIALS TO THE JURY ROOM
(a) Discretionary Materials. The court may permit the jury, upon retiring for deliberation, to take to the jury room:
(1) a copy of the charges against the defendant;
(2) forms of verdict approved by the court, after being first submitted to counsel;
(3) all things received in evidence other than depositions. If the thing received in evidence is a public record or a private document which, in the opinion of the court, ought not to be taken from the person having it in custody, a copy shall be taken or sent instead of the original.
(b) Mandatory Materials. The court must provide the jury, upon retiring for deliberation, with a written copy of the instructions given to take to the jury room.
Committee Notes
1968 Adoption. (1) and (2) same as section 919.04(1) and (2), Florida Statutes.
Section (3) was changed from the existing section 919.04(3) by adding to the things which should not be taken with or sent to the jury, written or recorded statements or confessions. It was felt by the committee that the present practice of allowing such things to be taken with the jury is unfair and emphasizes such statements or confessions to the jury. Since they are always read to the jury they should receive no additional emphasis than the testimony of any witness from the stand. [Court did not approve this change; the proposal was not adopted; and F.S.A. § 919.04(3) was transferred unchanged to Rule 1.400(c).]
1972 Amendment. (a) permits a copy of the indictment or information to be taken to the jury room. The committee deliberated at length about this provision but finally approved same. (b), (c), and (d) are same as former rule 3.400(a), (b), and (c) [but some terminology has been changed].
I was searching around the net and I came across a quote on wesh.com that startled me. Judge Eaton feels that the video of Caylee with the duct tape will become Casey’s auto appeal. Everyone understands that with a death penalty conviction there is always an appeal. I think they already have enough evidence for a guilty verdict of second degree murder. It is ridiculous that she would have an auto appeal without the death sentence on the table. This is costly and wasteful to the tax payers. I think the prosecution has done a great job, but they need to tie up lose ends. I wonder why they would take an appeal risk like this? Hmm
http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extendedcoverage/28219376/detail.html#ixzz1PGSwYLPF
Surprised by Video?
The Prosecution is rocking and rolling right now. Things are looking good right now – linking the sticker residue. Baez is up now 1:49 ET.
Wow, sticker backing found in a box with shower cards, and maybe
Caylee’s baby events, like a baby book and other items of her growing events. That would be HUGH to me to find that sticker in there because it signifys a big event in her life//HER DEATH!! Casey is keeping that as a memory??? And worse of all, Baez brought up the location of this item in this box. Did the prosecution touch on this??
Cindy on stand.
Picture shown of Caylee wearing “the shorts” – - – Cindy says picture was from early 2007.
My question is, would Caylee still be able to fit those shorts over a year later in June 2008?
If not, where were the clothes that Caylee outgrew stored?
Cindy today says cylinder laundry bag was stored in garage in 2008 as well as the square shaped one in black plastic garbage bags.
Oh gosh, here comes the t-shirt photo.
I can see that Cindy realizes what she is now testifying to is linking her daughter and no one else, to the death and disposal of Caylee.
I’m finding this very sad.
I hate to say this here to all of you who, like myself, believe with every fiber of my being, that Casey Anthony killed her daughter, but, I have heard a lot of talk on radio and tv that the state has not proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt. How is it that there are such divergent opinions out there, about this case? I have heard such knowledgeable commentators like Bill Sheaffer say so confidently that Casey will be found guilty, and yet, there are also many commentators who say confidently that the proof is just not there.
I really hate to think about her walking out as a free woman after what she obviously did to her daughter, but I just feel like we all have to be prepared to hear the worst.
I’m confused. If the jury isn’t allowed to discuss the case, how can they collectively make a request to see an item of evidence?
Here’s the full transcript of the sidebar from yesterday that I posted a video link of earlier.
Mason needs to not only retire, but also needs to consult with a neurologist – b/c he’s possibly showing signs of senility. MOO
This is 2011, and Mason’s “southern good ‘ol boy” schtick isn’t working – and I think Judge Perry has reached his limit in perhaps being a bit lax with Mason’s antics.
Mason is insulting to the honorable Judge Perry and to the court.
http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2011/0614/28230782.pdf
Surely the tattoo artist testimony is sealing the deal. His testimony should really make it clear to the jury how insensitive and cruel Casey is. Whether your child died by accident (as the defense has claimed) or died by your own hands, why in the world would a mother that claims to love their child get such a tattoo so soon after her child’s death…
re the silver duct tape still being in the Anthony home (thus Defense thinking they can link it to George), of course it’s still in the home. Wouldn’t Casey have applied the duct tape to Caylee at the home and then left the duct tape in the garage, etc., rather than taking it to the “dump site” or someplace else? Seems it only makes sense that the duct tape would have stayed at the home, no matter who used it. JMO
Anniex9 – I believe it was an individual Juror who asked for the evidence to be made available for the Jury to see. Maybe they realised the importance and was asking for it in preparation for debating later. Just a thought. I was surprised that Mr. George didn’t actually get the tattoo guy to translate what Bella Vita meant but I guess that is insulting the Jury members intelligence, sure they can work it out between them or perhaps it will come up during Defense’s case.
Hi all,
Just a reminder
BLINK live @ Scaredmonkeys radio tonight, 9pm ET
Thank You Vidda…
Rushing to deadline as usual, lol
B
Bringing this from other thread (hope it’s okay)
SusieB says:
June 14, 2011 at 2:48 pm
“I believe the tide is about to turn with Cindy Anthony. As reported by Wesh producer she just whispered I love you to Casey as she left the stand.”
“Yep.
B”
JUST SICKENING. I had a momentary lapse when Cindy was testifying about the t-shirt.
The A’s are all actors, IMO. Disgusting.
Casey is not going to win an appeal based on the duct tape video. Judge Perry has never had a death penalty case overturned and I suspect he knows how to walk a safe line with evidence so that doesnt happen. He does NOT want this case retried.
About the side bar conversation…’the hell you did’…
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this man. It probably wasn’t the smartest thing for him to say. It goes to show that a rock of a man like CJBP is as much, if not more so, feeling worn down by the ugliness exposed during this trial. Good people will be tested and no doubt, our beloved JP is feeling it. God bless him.
I wish those photos of Caylee were never made public. Even pixelated, the images make me sick. Watching the kids running out of school while I waited for my lil man was so bitter sweet today. The perspective I have gained since the trial began has changed me. I no longer see Casey as a human being. I see a predator. I see something that slithers in the muck with the slimiest of creatures. I see vile, venom, p*iss and vinegar running through her cold veins. I hate feeling like this. It was better to be blissful in ignorance. I can’t stop thinking that this very horrific abuse is being inflicted upon another sweet child in this world. Where do we put the pain? Martina McBride sings ‘….love’s the only house’…but I feel anything but love for CMA, child killer.
It’s unbelievable what this so called MOTY reduced Caylee too, physically. Thank you, Lord, that we are whole in spirit. Well, most of us.
“I’m the happiest I’ve ever been”.
Spiteful b*itch is way too pretty for this malignant spawn.
Appeal away! She’ll be in prison, like Scott Peterson, waiting for years as her not so committed DT goes through piles upon piles of paper work, blaming everyone but the killing maching herself. PPFFFFT! She’ll continue to claim innocence, just like SP. I suspect the Anthony’s, like the Peterson’s, will create a webpage where they will glady accept donations to pay for the appeals process. In the same token, have complete freedom to express on such site that Casey is suffering from a gross injustice. WHATEVER! It won’t change the fact that the village harlot will spend a helluva lot of time behind bars. If she ever gets out, any kind of beauty she perceived about herself will have long been ravished by hate, anger and hard facial lines. That will be her bella vita. The joke’s on her and that is where I’m placing my bets.
@Zinnia – I think it’s pertinent that Bill Sheaffer is incredibly familiar with this case. So many of the talking heads out there seem to know little or nothing about the actual facts – seems some of them forget to even read the cliff notes version of the day’s testimony before spouting off. Then there are others, like LKB, a shill with an agenda.
As Bill said, we’re only a third of the way through. I fully expect the Dream Team to put further nails in their client’s coffin on a daily basis for the next week or more. They just aren’t that good. And then the State gets to rebut whatever damage the defense has done.
Keep the faith.
maching = machine.
Typing is hazardous when one is raging via keyboard.
@ PaMom says:
June 14, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The link doesn’t work…at least not for me.
We’re going to hear a lot of specualation and opinions that reflect a favourable outcome for Casey. No one wants to get their hopes up. It’s better to make cautious commentary than celebrate justice prematurely. As they say, it’s not over until the fat lady sings.
I think the State did a good job today of bringing in witnesses that connected some of the dots. (about the sticker, etc)
Plus the tattoo dude was finally called – I was beginning to think he may not.
Tomorrow the State may finish up.
D you think they will call the plant/root growth expert tomorrow?
Or will they wait until after the defense presents their case, and then bring the plant/root growth expert in during State rebuttal stage?
Seems this witness would be very important at showing that little Caylee was in that swamp a long time (not carried around by Mr Kronk forever as per the defense).
The few photo’s the CSI folks testified to a few days ago that showed all the roots/plant shoots that had grown thru the blanket were striking.
The States plant expert should be able to bolster this with testimony on photo’s of the shoots growing up thru the bony remains (sigh).
Sorry if this had been said already…
Cindy saying that the shorts that Caylee was wearing in the picture were size 24 months and she was wearing a 2T at the time she went “missing” is silly.
Any Mother knows those two sizes are so close that there really is no noticeable difference. Also, if a child is wearing a diaper vs. a slimmer pull-up trainer, that will make the fit different.
It makes me nuts how Cindy embellishes her testimony with extra details that eventually trip her up. I heard the word “impeach the witness”, brought up with her on the stand, twice I believe. It is really not a stretch to see where Casey’s personality traits come from. I have to say this is one strange family.
okay back to reading
Cindy is a liar like her daughter
Looks like we were all hog swoggled by performances. Fool me once….
Well lil darlin Caylee…..you have us. We will be your earth family and we will fight to preserve your sweetness and innocence. You know what twinkles….almost 3 years of life and look how you’ve brought strangers together in the name of community and friendship.
Bless your heart, princess. Bless your heart.
Trust me folks, Cindy Anthony only thinks of herself just like Casey. Sure she loved Caylee but not enough to protect her even in death. She has tried to have innocent people convicted for a murder that they did not commit just to free her daughter. I have a full understanding why Casey is the way she is. Like mother like daughter. The things that Cindy and Casey have done to innocent people will be answeredd for one day. God only tolerates ugly for so long. I only have compassion for two people in this case that is little Caylee and George.
CC Rider says:
June 14, 2011 at 9:09 pm
I am learning, as a parent, that walking the talk has more credibility than just plain ol’ preachin. Children don’t always listen but they ALWAYS watch. I always felt Casey learned self preservation by lying and diverting blame from the two most impressionable people in her life. The old nature vs. nurture theory. It would seem the Anthony family never rolled with qualities like integrity and truthiness (thanks Dubya). Trust? Don’t get me started.
Dysfunction junction, what’s your function?
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JMHO
Hi Ragdoll – I realized my link didn’t work when it was to late. I kinda got caught up in the moment on that comment. I almost panicked at the thought of a mistrial.
About 2 weeks ago my 2 year old grandson swallowed a pill that almost killed him, he was life flighted to the hospital, admitted and remained in intensive care for a few days. Our beautiful boy is okay now, but this accident has changed us forever. Our entire lives are now kid proof. We came so close to losing him that we prayed and prayed together. I realize now how a person reacts when such an awful thing happens. We didn’t party; we prayed. God has heard from us more in the last 2 weeks then he’s heard from us in the past 10 years. If Caylee had drowned in that pool, they would have called 911 no matter what. Casey’s actions after the fact are criminal. The jury will see this.
Wildflower
Thanks for the information about the size of the shorts. Guys have so little knowledge of clothing for children that they, like me, could not understand how the two sizes compared. We also have to understand how Caylee grew during the time period of 2007 and 2008. She looked very tiny to me sitting in her great-grandfather’s lap.
One has to think hard about the role Cindy played in the development of Casey’s early behavior. Children are IMO a lot more observant than most adults understand. If they see an adult that is able to get something with a particular behavior, they will try to emulate it without understanding that it may be poor or even dangerous.
I recieved my Atlantic Monthly magazine for July/August this afternoon and found an article titled “The Brain on Trial” by David Eagleman a neuroscientist at Baylor College of Medicine. This is an essay adapted from his book titled, Incognito: The Secret Lives of the Brain.
This essay raises a lot of questions regarding what science has been able to determine about the brain and criminal behavior. The essay is interesting. However, one would need to find his book and read it. The essay states some statistics that are startling, but it does not have the sources for some of his facts.
@ PaMom.
No worries. I think we all hit the panic button today.
Thank you for sharing your miracle story with us. Coming together as a family in troubling times is how it should be, especially for our children. God bless <3
Ragdoll says:
June 14, 2011 at 5:38 pm
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Excellent post Ragdoll- I agree.
===>NEW BLINK THREAD @<===
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/06/14/cayleecasey-anthony-trial-judge-calls-the-defense-liars-and-the-prosecution-resurrects-the-fumblerooski/comment-page-1/#comment-1702525
~Snip~
A Texas Grandfather says:
June 14, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Wildflower
Thanks for the information about the size of the shorts. Guys have so little knowledge of clothing for children that they, like me, could not understand how the two sizes compared. We also have to understand how Caylee grew during the time period of 2007 and 2008. She looked very tiny to me sitting in her great-grandfather’s lap.
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Believe it or not, that is exactly what Baez was aiming for- the goofy male( George) who can’t dress the child. No offense to you! lol. But, both my kids had smaller bottoms, they have no hips and mostly no butts without a diaper.
RE the meaning of the tattoo.
I believe the State is using a Judicial Notice to bring in the meaning of the tattoo.
~snip~
On the federal trial court level, judicial notice is recognized in rule 201 of the Federal Rules of Evidence for U.S. District Courts and Magistrates. Rule 201 provides, in part, that “[a] judicially noticed fact must be one not subject to reasonable dispute in that it is either (1) generally known within the territorial jurisdiction of the trial court or (2) capable of accurate and ready determination by resort to sources whose accuracy cannot reasonably be questioned.”
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Judicial+Notice
Eloise says:
June 14, 2011 at 11:56 pm
You are so kind and thoughtful, Eloise. I appreciate the nod. More importantly, I’m always in awe at what you lay down at BOC. Stealing a few words from our adorable ATG…
It’s an honour to hang out with y’all! <3
PAmom,
I am glad to hear that your grandson is doing well. Thankyou for sharing your story with us
I think you pointed out the biggest sticking point in this case. Other than the duct tape-
It is not reasonable for any parent or grandparent to cover up an accident. And certainly not in this case, with the scenario of an accidental drowning death and then the coverup insuing from the distraught and frightened mother- pleading for the aid of her longtime molester- allowing him to take her daughter and do whatever he wished with her-disposing of her as HE saw fit- and then immediately go about her business- return to texting and planning her night out with her new boyfriend. Followed by 31 days of lies about her daughters wellbeing and whereabouts -all the while partying and blissfully going about her newfound bella vita.
Then when confronted on July 15, tell her family and the world that he baby was kidnapped and out there alive- then when arrested for neglect remain silent and tell more lies and then go 3 years never mentioning the word accident- or death or the molestation by dad and the coverup
I submit that NO mother- would willingly leave the care of her daughter to that of her known molester- not in life and NOT even in death-
If the scenario that The defense laid out in opening statements was true then Caylees grandfather would be just as liable as her mother- He was there in the home just as Casey was- when the accident occured
Does anyone think that George, a police officer, would not have known and understood that an accidental drowning- although tragic, would not result in Casey going to jail, nor he for that matter?
- While grandpa was busy getting ready for work and while mommy/Casey was busy on the phone or in the kitchen preparing breakfast or whatever… her daughter- made her way to the pool- Casey thought George had Caylee- George thought casey had Caylee- alas, she was alone, unattended and a horrible accident occurred- she drowned -Cindy forgot the ladder..
Tragically they find her lifeless in the pool. -What would happen next? A reasonable person would surmise that the grandfather and the mother then would call 911, the operator would talk them thru cpr measures, if the ex police officer had not already begun this procedure, and then grandma would have been called…either when traveling to the hospital or after the 911 call-
The story of little Caylees tragic drowning would have possibly made the local news, and it would have become a precautionary tale for all those with swimming pools and toddlers, in Florida to be ever vigilante in watching their child -to avoid such a tragic accidental death.
Accidents happen, they are not planned, and every parent knows, just as you stated, PAmom, despite our best efforts, sometimes bad things happen, accidents. And when these tragic accidents occur, even when resulting in death, 911 is called and a funeral is planned, the family says goodbye and mourns, and sometimes blame does arise, as part of the grief process, and anger, but life goes on- and the grief process moves on= to acceptance and sadness and realization that no one is to blame- it was an accident.
George would have known this and would have reported the accident- he would not have covered-up this accident- and then go on to work as if nothing happened- nor would he have ran and got his ducttape which could certainly be tied back to him, as he was using it on posters of his missing granddaughter, even one, on his own door, and it was on his gas can,…nor would he have found the bags in the garage- and torn them open, and left them in disarray- to find the laundry bag- nor would he have put little Caylee in trashbags and the trunk of his daughters car which he then went and picked up at the tow yard, nor would he have disposed of the evidence, Caylees body, in such close proximity to his own home- if he wanted to make a body/car/evidence disappear- and do it in such a way as to “distance himself” from the evidence he certainly would have went about it in a totally different way- afterall He was a LEO.
I think Blink is right, Casey planned this and she thought thru each aspect- enough at least, to set George up as a fall guy- if ever the kidnapping Zanny story became unusable-
We must keep in mind, that still to this day, Casey refuses to take any responsibility in the “tragic accident” and cover-up of her daughters demise.
Casey will never take responsibility- it is Georges fault and Cindys fault – she is but a mere victim- and needs to be seen as such- just as much as Caylee- she said so herself.
This new accidental death by drowning scenario is nothing more than a bigger and better lie- having been brought out- only after every other possible lie was proven unreasonable and unusable..
Accidents happen- accidental drownings happen- but as Dr. G said- 100% of the time, accidents are reported- 911 is called-
I say cpr is given- if death occurs, then a loving doting Mother laments at what she could have -should have -would have done, taking all responsibility and blame on her own shoulders- but certainly owns up to the accident and death- giving her daughter the respectful loving funeral and memorial- attended by family and friends that the baby deserves.
She doesnt cover it up, she doesnt go out and rent movies and party for the next 31 days and she doesnt throw her daughter to the wolves- figuratively and literally – giving her baby to a a molester and/or
throwing her away like trash, in a marsh- infested with animals ready to devour her baby-
AJMO
Thanks again PAmom for sharing your story- so glad it ended happy
Maybe it’s just me….but Casey looks like she’s aged ten years.
Eloise
I know about the little bottoms on children. Our youngest daughter was straight up and down until she was fourteen. She recently confessed that she thought she would never get any hips. Took about forty years to hear that confession.
It is amazing the things that children hold to be important, but do not share with parents until later in life. Sometimes parents figure it out and then get to grin and say to the adult child, “Thats no news, I knew about it from the time it happened”.
Mom3.0
You have done it again in totally destroying the so called logic of Casey’s stories.
You covered everything but the story about the supposed trip to Jacksonville. I call that one the “hideout story”.
I agree the wild story the Defense presented in their opening about George carrying the deceased Caylee in his arms to show her to Casey is just NOT how a grandparent would act. Instead he would have placed the little one on the ground and began techniques that he was taught as a police officer to care for a drowned person all the while shouting at Casey to call 911.
Casey has watched too many movies and lived in a fantasy world too long. My question is how could two defense lawyers, one who claims to have 40 years experience, fall into such a client provided trap?
Thanks TGF- I think Linda drane Burdick summed it up best- – all it takes is common sense to figure out.
I sure hope the jurors are loaded with common sense.
I agree with you TGF Casey did watch too many movies and she was destined to model her lies/life after them- I’ll never forget that during this time period – the 31 days she watched movies with bodies in the trunk and duct tape- and torture -and one about a coked up narcissistic delusional sadistic killer.
Yeah I think its safe to say her mind was not on grieving.
AJMO
Enjoy your family time Blink- and wishes for a lifetime of love and happiness for your sis, I’m sure your Poppa will be there in spirit-
Ill try to reserve ny posts so not as to require a comment.
I dont know if that question was stricken- I think not because Ashton cleared up the issue on recross.
I found today to be rather boring also, so I was not my usaal hawkeye self. If anyone knows what happened , please post- Thanks.
I may watch the recap on WFTV if I can bring myself to sit threu the boredom.
IRT the shorts- I am thinking you could be right Blink they were not on Caylee, but I wont go as far as to say they were placed later…My theory is that Casey retrieved both the shirt and the shorts from the laundry or the bin in her car…I base this on the fact that no other member of the family had seen little Caylee wear that shirt and Ricardo testified that Casey would bring over clothes for Caylee and those were standard as shown by the 2 different pics of Caylee in the Big trouble shirt at two different time periods- both sleep aways at Ricardos- the shorts I think were left in the car or perhaps possibly left in the garage after one of the yard sales or such -
I think Casey chose this whole outfit- because it was convenient and pointed towards Ricardo- just like the Enquirer pics and the zanny apt. pics.
Having said all that, I do think the shorts were small but not too small for Caylee- although I know Cindy would never have put them on Caylee- Casey I dont think would have cared…. BTW diaper butts are way bigger then pullup butts- so Caylee may have still been able to wear those “appropriately” according to Casey’s standards.
AJMO
oops wrong thread- I’ll repost on other thread. Sorry
I think it should be a law that the subject in question should have to take the stand in their own defense at some given point (Casey Anthony)(O.J.) of course they do need a lawyer to keep it fair. Who ever came up with the idea that when someone has been charged with a felony crime, they can just sit back and let some sophisticated individuals use subtle deceptive reasoning to help cover up their criminal actions, is just the same as lying in my opinion.
Well add another innocent person whose name has been raked into the CA/JB muck. Mr. V Johnson and Ms. Zenaida Gonzalez should sue CA, JB et al!!!