Orlando, FL- Judge Perry calls the defense team Liars- Not a good sign. Yesterday, during Chief Judge Perry’s announcement to the jury about the tentative schedule for the remainder of the murder trial against Casey Anthony, defense counsel Cheney Mason objected and asked for a sidebar.
Mason: We don’t have any obligation to put on any evidence at all. and you just told the jurors you expect us to be putting on evidence, and we may or we may not.
Mason went on to request that the Judge instruct the jury that they are not obligated to put on a defense, and claimed Jeff Ashton agreed with him.
Chief Judge Perry: Then Y’all lied to me.
Mason:NO. Chief Judge Perry: “Yes the Hell you did…” If you don’t put on any evidence, then I will do that.
Mason: Well, we are, so don’t worry about it.
Chief Judge Perry: ..” I will take I cannot trust one thing your side says, anymore.
Heh? I would like to give the benefit of the doubt to his honor, as I did not believe a word this defense had to say going into this trial, let alone 3 weeks later. The State, after establishing what they believe is the origin of the disappearing heart residue on the duct tape came from stickers in the drawer with Caylee’s birth announcements, and re-calling Cindy Anthony for a little light impeachment is headed to the finish line tomorrow.
*Insert defense’s motion for mistrial late today* Denied.
To those of you, and there are many, screaming from the hilltops.. “Is that all you got?” “OMG, is this girl gonna walk?” “What about Dr. Hall?” “How the Hell is Dominick Casey getting out of testifying?” I say chillax. This prosecution team is simply resurrecting the F U M B L E R O O S K I.
The State of Florida, has ALWAYS known this case is going to verdict on THE LAST WORD from the prosecution, or the rebuttal portion of the trial.
Given the defense’s opening statement, there is no question in my mind, nor should there be in yours, that the ludicrous allegations made on the first day, cannot possibly be brought to bear, and while the prosecutions case in chief was meticulous, it is not the “barn burner” for a reason.
Linda Drane Burdick is going to leave that ball on the field for a spell. Ashton will surreptitiously pick it up and head to the end zone unchallenged.
After all, that play did originate at the Orange Bowl.
I have both written and reviewed expert witness reports. And I’ve even reviewed the review of a review of a review of an expert witness report. (Some attorneys are VERY thorough in being sure they have a list of credentials and back-up qualified experts, and don’t just trust the first concurring opinion they find. There are some real “hired gun” types out there.) The need to produce a written report for complex technical testimony is not a new thing; I think the first time I worked on one was in 1988 or 1989. Typical for mediation as well.
Baez is pulling nonsense, BUT I have to question these expert witnesses as well. What kind of expert agrees to testify at a trial without documenting what he/she will testify? What kind of expert agrees to be an expert witness without investigating what the rules and procedures are in the jurisdiction? In some professions, they could be sanctioned or lose their licenses as well.
So, on this point, I do NOT hold Baez solely responsible. If the experts do not familiarize themselves with the requirements for serving as an expert witness, they have no business trying to be one. Great loss of credibility on all counts, in my opinion.
Completely agree. Equivalent of hired guns, if ya ask me.
Annals said … WPG said. . .
Anyhow, the heart sticker backing is in this photo evidence link; it’s the 12th image in the thumbnail scroller: http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18740442/detail.html
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I’m not sure whose find this was originally, but did you hear today (Tues) LDB said that the State receives notices daily from citizens including fashion advice (LOL!) and case information – maybe you ought to bring this to their attention. Does seem intriguing.
I cant believe it, Baez whining because the State would or did not reduce the information on the HP PC hardrive to specifics days, hours, minutes, probably bytes.
Judge Perry was kind enough to point out some specific dates for him. Oh, you know…..like June 15, 16, maybe even the 14th. (Snark)
Is Baez really serious? He never checked this evidence…..I think Casey looked scared. Cant say as I blame her.
P.S. I have written expert reports that do not support my client’s position. In that situation, the attorneys would have the report reviewed by another expert or two or three or four, and then tell their client they are in deep doodoo.
OMG. Right?
Wth?
I am feeling the need to re-post a favorite image I created, lol.
Just wow.
Is it ok if I disclose your confirmed occupation given your post?
B
I would have like to seen Cindy and George’s face when LDB brought up the inmate scenario. I think they left the courtroom beforehand. You can not make this stuff up…..Oh wait….. yes you can…
So . . . JB, I just saw your nice little cameo on TV.
It’s not your fault? What do you mean it’s not your fault, sweetheart?
The State isn’t focusing on June 16, 2008 on a whim.
Sorry, but I couldn’t help make the comparison.
Not sure, though, that the “untruths” that seem to roll out of JB are done at the same level of expertise as his client.
Aww I shouldn’t have expanded his name in a non-factual manner, I bet he was manipulated into that declaration (but he’s an EXPERT) into that fluffing, and would love to know from a subpoena to Wicki, as to their source, because if it were a certain lawyer, this would be called (minimally) ‘bolstering’. And another word…. I can’t think of at the moment.
I am wondering what is going to come down the pike for Mr Baez AFTER the trial is over.
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I am guessing as a result of Baez’s admonishment’s recently by the honorable judge in front of the court and letting the FL bar dole out a punishment for him Jose will most likely be asking “want fries with that?” after this trial to go with his short-lived career in selling bikini’s before he allegedly went to law school, lol.
And IIRC, this complaint to the Bar will be his 3rd or 4th since this trial began. I would imagine the number of complaints will eventually catch up with him, as he has somehow managed to escape discipline in the previous spankings, but luck doesn’t last forever. If anyone knows exactly how many there have been before this, please correct my forgetful memory, but I know there have been at least 2 previously.
@ this point in the trial IF the State asked for-or- the Court ordered- a mistrial, there would be the issue of “jeopardy attach”. Which IF “that” happen, kc could NOT be tried again.
“IMO truthfully, no matter what jb may be trying to “push” the STATE/Court to do, it would NOT be to “gain a new trial” instead it could mean “jeopardy attach” = no ability to re-try” .
Is kc on a mobile device she has in her lap??
She is looking down but @ her lap NOT desk?
Would she be able to be on a cell phone/laptop ???
Remember how many texts she could do ??
Is she “getting” some text time/ web cruising in ??
Oh my, she now has the “sweater” tied around just under her boobs … don’t “think” that’s the “image” that they’re trying to show … full view for jury to see as they walk in to court room … wow, wasn’t expecting that “fashion look”… sheesh.
I can’t believe JP is letting this Eichenboom guy testify and he isnt an expert , the state objected to his testimony .
This isnt looking good for the prosecution.
I hope I’m wrong
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Chief Defense Witness Bill Rodriguez Perjurs Himself- OUT HE GOES- .. Ashton Spits Out Spitz… Blink Discuss Live Tonight On Dana Pretzer Show
Thank you to those of you who responded when I inquired as to whether anyone has been swayed by the testimony so far. I am sincerely curious if there is ANYONE who has been swayed one way or the other by what we have heard and seen so far. What I am getting at is the efficiency of this trial. Are we learning anything new or earth-shattering?
I would assume (perhaps incorrectly, of course) that we are a sampling of people much like those in the jury pool. Are we open to changing our minds, looking with fresh eyes, being objective? (Rhetorical question.) And if we are not seeing anything new or enlightening, or even confirmatory, what does that mean?
What I was also alluding to is something that seems to have been picked up on in some MSM in the last days – what is the real connection, relationship, dynamic between CA and JB? Something is going on. Not asserting that there is a “love connection” but there is something beyond attorney-client here.
And I so concur with the thoughts about what kind of witness would agree to testify without disclosing potential topics? This just can’t be real – there can not be one mis-step piled on top of another and another and another and so on. I am a paralegal and it makes me sick to watch this. Part of my job is to make sure my attorneys have their ducks in a row. Did JB work with anyone to prepare for this case – anyone who stopped him at any time to question his lines of questioning, his theroy, his sanity?
And it seems that I am seeing well spoken professional people giving the nod to the defense, explaining the strides the defense is making. Are we watching the same trial?
Sammy says:
June 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Holy Moly Blink … in the middle of yet another painful day of the Baez Circus Defense, we are treated to a new Blink article.
Absolutely LOVE your artwork photo of Rodriquez, Huntington, and Spitz –> buried up to their necks in lies!
Jeff Aston’s own body farm of disgraced defense witnesses. lol
===>What time is Dana’s show scheduled for tonight ??<===
… I don’t want to miss it.
9PM EST, updating links as we speak, deadlines and all that-
Personally, I think maybe JB and CA had a lil thing going when she was spending all day in his office, but now that shes been arrested and is now on trial, I think perhaps its cooled down considerably .
Yhis is just MHO, there was just some kinda slimy energy between those two .
The sticker-backing appears to match to the black sheet that only has 3 remaining red metallic stickers.
The cut-out or punched-out heart-shape that seems to match to the uneven edges of the loose sticker backing appears on the bottom row of the sheet. An item laying partially underneath that black sheet can be seen through the punched-out areas, showing that the sticker backings on the bottom row of the black sheet have been removed.
Don’t know if there were any raised hearts on that sheet at one time, but it’s interesting that the loose sticker backing has an approx 1/8 inch red metallic border (like the remaining sticker backings on the sheet), and is approx 1 inch in overall size.
The raised heart found at Suburban is approx 3/4 inch (a dime is also 3/4 inches).
That is a 1/4 inch size difference that could account for the 1/8 inch red metallic border all around .
So the raised heart could fit the shape/size of the white part of the sticker backing.
JB described the items from the box being from a baby shower – - – didn’t he say in his opening that there was no baby shower?
The DT sure were fighting to keep the sticker evidence out.
The heart sticker backing was found with Caylee birth-related items.
I would not be surprised if the heart sticker from that backing was used for “the end of life”.
No other stickers were found in the home except in the accused’s bedroom – - – and in drawers, etc., not in open view.
Because LKB entered the various heart sticker items into evidence, I believe, one way or another, the raised sticker found on Suburban is going to be connected to CA along with presentation that CA did apply a heart sticker of some type on the duct tape covering little Caylee’s mouth.
By the way, WPG, the sticker evidence has kinda stickered itself in my mind for a long time now. Logicly I want to throw it out as superfluious. The fact of duct tape on Caylee’s skull is the main issue; who cares whether it had a heart sticker on it also. It’s too macabre and obscure since the residue has been dissolved.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt that the heart sticker was put on the duct tape and by Casey; it’s just that the State doesn’t need it. So why does this bit of evidence nag me? I think you just explained that to me.
I wondered why the backing was placed in a memoribelia box and not just tossed into the trash. Your phrase, “used for the end of life” nailed it for me. The backing is a negative image of the heart; the shaddow. And Casey deliberately saved it in a memory box. Chilling.
Should be LDB not LKB!
Apologies to Linda Drane Burdick . . .
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annals, it is chilling, as you described.
Also, the sticker(s) contribute in tying her to the disposing of little Caylee at the trash site on Suburban Drive beyond a reasonable doubt.
To accuse anyone else is not reasonable considering the totality of evidence.
lol, we knew who you meant!
It hit me in the gullet yesterday when I was discussing the case with Mark Nejame offline, and at this point his concerns are more that a guilty verdict will be overturned, than anything.
B
re:annals..you are soooo smart!!!!!!!!!! That is likely exactly why she kept that ‘backing’ of the sticker!!!!!I kept recalling seeing that in the evidence photos ect……and wondering …why she’d keep it ect…exactly!!!!!
“It hit me in the gullet yesterday when I was discussing the case with Mark Nejame offline, and at this point his concerns are more that a guilty verdict will be overturned, than anything.
B”
Well, this would go along with my belief that Mrs.A’s note-taking is for the purpose of getting her despicable daughter off no matter what.
Her facial expressions of anger, IMO, are not directed at the murderer of her granddaughter, but at everyone else who is exposing her daughter’s guilt.
Her daughter is a danger to society and cannot be set free, IMO.
What is NeJames’ thinking – - – ineffective counsel?
I always thought of Casey’s placement of the sticker on the duct tape as a bizarrely trite goodbye gesture; Sorry, baby, you had to be used this way, I loved you. Without actually analysing this thought.
WPG pointed me to a deeper meaning in his post #24 on this page. The deeper meaning and potential motive for saving the backing is, to me, suggestive of either a trophy or a message to Cindy. Chilling either way.
Formation of chloroform and chlorinated organics by free-chlorine-mediated oxidation of triclosan.
Environ Sci Technol. 2005 May 1;39(9):3176-85
Rule KL, Ebbett VR, Vikesland PJ., Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, 418 Durham Hall, Virginia Polytechnic and State University, Blacksburg, Virginia 24060-0361, USA.
The widely used antimicrobial agent triclosan (5-chloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol) readily reacts with free chlorine under drinking water treatment conditions. Overall second-order kinetics were observed, first-order in free chlorine and first-order in triclosan. Over the pH range of 4-11.5, the kinetics were pH sensitive as a result of the pH dependent speciation of both triclosan and free chlorine. Using a Marquardt-Levenberg routine, it was determined that this pH effect indicates that the dominant reaction in this system is between the ionized phenolate form of triclosan and hypochlorous acid (HOCl). The overall second-order rate coefficient was determined to be kArO- = 5.40 (+/- 1.82) x 10(3) M(-1) s(-1). Three chlorophenoxyphenols and two chlorophenols were identified by gas chromatographic-mass spectroscopic analysis. The chlorophenoxyphenol compounds include two monochlorinated triclosan derivatives (5,6-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoy)phenol and 4,5-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol) and one dichlorinated derivative (4,5,6-trichloro-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol); these species form via bimolecular electrophilic substitution of triclosan. 2,4-Dichlorophenol was detected under all reaction conditions and forms via ether cleavage of triclosan. In experiments with excess free chlorine, 2,4,6-trichlorophenol was formed via electrophilic substitution of 2,4-dichlorophenol. Chloroform formation was observed when an excess of free chlorine was present. A Hammett-type linear free-energy relationship (LFER) using Brown-Okamoto parameters (sigma+) was established to correlate the reactivity of HOCI and the phenolate forms of triclosan and other chlorophenols (log kArO- = -(10.7 +/- 2.2)Sigmasigma(+)o,m,p + 4.43). This LFER was used to obtain estimates of rate coefficients describing the reactivity of the intermediates 5,6-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 6 x 10(2)), 4,5-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 3 x 10(2)), and 4,5,6-trichloro-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 4 x 10(1)).
“Showering is suspected as the primary cause of elevated chloroform in nearly every home because of the chlorine in the water. Chloroform levels increase up to 100 times during a ten-minute shower in residential water” – Environmental Protection Agency – Dr. Lance Wallace. Turns out chlorine bleach in your shower turns into chloroform steam. That is the stuff bad guys use to knock out there victims!
IIRC, Kio Marie-Cruz mentioned to Detective Melich in one of her interviews that not only did her and Casey go to Suburban Drive area when they were kids to bury pets, but that Casey was known even back then to put little heart stickers at the burial area of the deceased pet. This would keep in tune with what you just stated WRT the “end of life” scenario with Casey. Yes, it is in fact chilling. Cindy and George raised quite the offspring, didn’t they?
Ok, I watch the trial everyday and follow everything and am a member of Justice for Caylee groups but OMG —- who is the moron that brought up the Fumble In Nebraska of 1984! And just an fyi, it is the Nebraska cornhuskers not corner huskers or whatever you said.
This is a case about the death of a 3 year old little girl–don’t drag football into it especially the cornhuskers. Go dig up old footage of the gators or some other team. Did you do a word search for fumble on Youtube? Great research–don’t quit your day job!!
“I always thought of Casey’s placement of the sticker on the duct tape as a bizarrely trite goodbye gesture; Sorry, baby, you had to be used this way, I loved you. ”
Very true.
And we don’t know if after she killed Caylee that she may have had some fleeting moments of regret.
“The fact of duct tape on Caylee’s skull is the main issue; who cares whether it had a heart sticker on it also. It’s too macabre and obscure since the residue has been dissolved.”
The point of the heart is very clear….it tells the jury that a rather immature girl did this….not some meter reader, and not George.
Dear Joan, while I respect your right to comment, I would like to say that contempt for women has no place in my view here in particular. I see BOC as a safe and pro-active ‘container’ or haven, so to speak, for women. Making fun of women, esp. women doing this to another, and in regards to their appearance is not appropriate, relevant, nor kind imo. Nor does it matter to me if this women is a good or competent attorney; she is a human being. I really thought “we” had moved beyond this sort of commentary on each other at this point in history. Clearly not.
ok, fair response, I also addressed it, let’s move on, as I believe the point has been made adequately.
B
If George had found Caylee in the pool, then a drowned Caylee would have been on the BOTTOM of the pool – which would have required George to GO IN and get her out…so Geo would have been soaking wet (something that Baez never mentioned).
And….think about…if you saw a baby on the bottom of the pool, you would immediately begin screaming to call 911 before even going in the water. So, the Baez Story doesn’t make sense.
And…anyone with a pool does ONE thing when they can’t find a child…they always look in the pool FIRST…always. I’m a pool owner so I know that’s what people do.
Going into the Casey Anthony trial, I held you in the highest regard, considering you to be a gentleman and a scholar. I must tell you, though I’m sure it matters not one whit to you in the overall scheme of things, that having soberly listened to you speak following the “Not Guilty” verdicts as to Caylee’s homicide in the trial as well as to the interview you gave on HLN, I’ve forever lost that respect. Along with millions of others globally, I have accepted the verdicts and the jury’s decisions, regardless of our personal feelings and consummately respectful of the dictates of our United States Constitution. We have faith in God far exceeding that of ANY form of government man could ever fashion, accepting that He knows the unvarnished truth in all things and will sit in final Judgment ANY time His loving gift of human life is befouled in the manner that tiny Caylee Anthony was. You paint us all with an egotistical, sweeping brush of condemnation by sarcastically referring to us a “jackals”, “idiots” “mindless”, “geniuses” etc. – and that, too, is your right under the Constitution we live by. However, you lied by proxy when you stood behind Mr. Baez’s Opening Argument accusations that Caylee accidentally drowned on June 16, 2008… and then admitted, post-trial, that we may never know what happened to this precious child. A young man paid a handsome price in terms of liberty and monetarily for a hand gesture that you, in turn, wholly disgraced your profession and personal character by displaying in a public situation you KNEW would be photographically memorialized for the world – and more specifically those who feel Caylee was denied justice – to see. Rather than accept responsibility and/or concede your glee and sense of triumph at telling those who dare question your methods and motives to f— off, you’re deflecting responsibility with some nonsense about directing the gesture solely at a single individual who’s been harassing your team and asking about your female member’s menstrual cycles, etc. Were that the only individual you were gesturing to, why, may I ask, did you not take him to task under the laws and Constitution you so vociferously profess to admire, thereby sparing the feelings of those who genuinely mourn Caylee’s death? You chastise us with an admonishment to “learn how to be good citizens”… perhaps you should lead by example.
The span of time souls spend on this earth constitutes a mere blink of an eye when measured against the inevitable reality of Eternity. All of us, in the end, must answer to an Authority far superior to that of any declaration set forth on parchment, and I submit for your honest reflection one sincere inquiry: Is this particular “high point” in your career one God will deem to be as honorable as you purport? For if you attained it by championing horrendous, entirely unproven lies and seizing upon the the misdirection and confusion to which they give rise, what does that truly say of the life you’ve led? Enjoy it as you will, Mr. Mason, wrapped in your self-righteous cloak of the United States Constitution… the same Constitution which, in infancy, deemed black people to be sub-human “property”. But you and those responsible for this baby’s death and/or other like atrocities, though your earthly lives may be long in years, materially rich, and well enjoyed, will soon enough stand naked before our Maker, your real and true motives exposed to his all-knowing eyes. Perhaps God will regard ‘saving the life’ of one by destroying those of others no more an honorable victory than the Death Penalty will ever be over evil.
You will notice that I have NOT chosen to remain anonymous, Mr. Mason. I fear no mere man, regardless of his ill-gotten status, resources, and/or power, when it comes to speaking the truth. I sincerely wish the best of luck to you, your team, and those you’ve represented in this matter… for when I am called to stand before God’s end of earthly life judgment, I would most certainly loathe to be in your shoes.
[My full name, address, and phone number were included with Mason's copy of this e-mail]
I have both written and reviewed expert witness reports. And I’ve even reviewed the review of a review of a review of an expert witness report. (Some attorneys are VERY thorough in being sure they have a list of credentials and back-up qualified experts, and don’t just trust the first concurring opinion they find. There are some real “hired gun” types out there.) The need to produce a written report for complex technical testimony is not a new thing; I think the first time I worked on one was in 1988 or 1989. Typical for mediation as well.
Baez is pulling nonsense, BUT I have to question these expert witnesses as well. What kind of expert agrees to testify at a trial without documenting what he/she will testify? What kind of expert agrees to be an expert witness without investigating what the rules and procedures are in the jurisdiction? In some professions, they could be sanctioned or lose their licenses as well.
So, on this point, I do NOT hold Baez solely responsible. If the experts do not familiarize themselves with the requirements for serving as an expert witness, they have no business trying to be one. Great loss of credibility on all counts, in my opinion.
Completely agree. Equivalent of hired guns, if ya ask me.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/06/21/casey-anthony-murder-trial-chief-defense-witness-bill-rodriguez-perjurs-himself-out-he-goes-ashton-spits-out-spitz-blink-discuss-live-tonight-on-dana-pretzer-show/
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Annals said … WPG said. . .
Anyhow, the heart sticker backing is in this photo evidence link; it’s the 12th image in the thumbnail scroller:
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18740442/detail.html
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I’m not sure whose find this was originally, but did you hear today (Tues) LDB said that the State receives notices daily from citizens including fashion advice (LOL!) and case information – maybe you ought to bring this to their attention. Does seem intriguing.
I cant believe it, Baez whining because the State would or did not reduce the information on the HP PC hardrive to specifics days, hours, minutes, probably bytes.
Judge Perry was kind enough to point out some specific dates for him. Oh, you know…..like June 15, 16, maybe even the 14th. (Snark)
Is Baez really serious? He never checked this evidence…..I think Casey looked scared. Cant say as I blame her.
P.S. I have written expert reports that do not support my client’s position. In that situation, the attorneys would have the report reviewed by another expert or two or three or four, and then tell their client they are in deep doodoo.
OMG. Right?
Wth?
I am feeling the need to re-post a favorite image I created, lol.
Just wow.
Is it ok if I disclose your confirmed occupation given your post?
B
I would have like to seen Cindy and George’s face when LDB brought up the inmate scenario. I think they left the courtroom beforehand. You can not make this stuff up…..Oh wait….. yes you can…
So . . . JB, I just saw your nice little cameo on TV.
It’s not your fault? What do you mean it’s not your fault, sweetheart?
The State isn’t focusing on June 16, 2008 on a whim.
Sorry, but I couldn’t help make the comparison.
Not sure, though, that the “untruths” that seem to roll out of JB are done at the same level of expertise as his client.
Casey Anthony Trial: Psychiatric Clues of an Accused Child Killer
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-trial-psychiatric-clues-accused-child-killer/story?id=13881355
Good that state is aware! Seems Dr. William Cesor Romero Rodriguez Fernandez Gonzalez the 31 st, has gone back to work in the meantime.
ROTFL
Kleat, you are a closet smartass. LOL
B
Aww I shouldn’t have expanded his name in a non-factual manner, I bet he was manipulated into that declaration (but he’s an EXPERT) into that fluffing, and would love to know from a subpoena to Wicki, as to their source, because if it were a certain lawyer, this would be called (minimally) ‘bolstering’. And another word…. I can’t think of at the moment.
NaNa says:
June 20, 2011 at 10:09 pm
I am wondering what is going to come down the pike for Mr Baez AFTER the trial is over.
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I am guessing as a result of Baez’s admonishment’s recently by the honorable judge in front of the court and letting the FL bar dole out a punishment for him Jose will most likely be asking “want fries with that?” after this trial to go with his short-lived career in selling bikini’s before he allegedly went to law school, lol.
And IIRC, this complaint to the Bar will be his 3rd or 4th since this trial began. I would imagine the number of complaints will eventually catch up with him, as he has somehow managed to escape discipline in the previous spankings, but luck doesn’t last forever. If anyone knows exactly how many there have been before this, please correct my forgetful memory, but I know there have been at least 2 previously.
What has Baez been doing for three years……Someone please tell me this is all just one big joke….This trial is only a “Pilot” for a soap opera, right?
This is sad, sad, sad, I even feel sorry for (Some) of his witnesses.
Is Baez purposely being incompetent…he cant be that stupid… can he?
I almost feel sorry for Casey Anthony…..well, that’s a strech.
Sorry for the rants….
Just want to thank those of you sharing your quit-smoking stories. It’s very inspiring to those of us who are struggling with it.
JEN- I am willing you strength my friend.
B
@ this point in the trial IF the State asked for-or- the Court ordered- a mistrial, there would be the issue of “jeopardy attach”. Which IF “that” happen, kc could NOT be tried again.
“IMO truthfully, no matter what jb may be trying to “push” the STATE/Court to do, it would NOT be to “gain a new trial” instead it could mean “jeopardy attach” = no ability to re-try” .
AJMHO
Is kc on a mobile device she has in her lap??
She is looking down but @ her lap NOT desk?
Would she be able to be on a cell phone/laptop ???
Remember how many texts she could do ??
Is she “getting” some text time/ web cruising in ??
Oh my, she now has the “sweater” tied around just under her boobs … don’t “think” that’s the “image” that they’re trying to show … full view for jury to see as they walk in to court room … wow, wasn’t expecting that “fashion look”… sheesh.
AJMO
I can’t believe JP is letting this Eichenboom guy testify and he isnt an expert , the state objected to his testimony .
This isnt looking good for the prosecution.
I hope I’m wrong
Did JB and CM just start grabbing people out of the home when JB picked CM up in the morning??
Lol.
You went there. I am on a shorter leash.
B
http://youtu.be/sSBGyYFwtTk
interesting for those who haven’t heard it.
===>NEW BLINK THREAD<===
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Chief Defense Witness Bill Rodriguez Perjurs Himself- OUT HE GOES- .. Ashton Spits Out Spitz… Blink Discuss Live Tonight On Dana Pretzer Show
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/06/21/casey-anthony-murder-trial-chief-defense-witness-bill-rodriguez-perjurs-himself-out-he-goes-ashton-spits-out-spitz-blink-discuss-live-tonight-on-dana-pretzer-show/#comments
Thank you to those of you who responded when I inquired as to whether anyone has been swayed by the testimony so far. I am sincerely curious if there is ANYONE who has been swayed one way or the other by what we have heard and seen so far. What I am getting at is the efficiency of this trial. Are we learning anything new or earth-shattering?
I would assume (perhaps incorrectly, of course) that we are a sampling of people much like those in the jury pool. Are we open to changing our minds, looking with fresh eyes, being objective? (Rhetorical question.) And if we are not seeing anything new or enlightening, or even confirmatory, what does that mean?
What I was also alluding to is something that seems to have been picked up on in some MSM in the last days – what is the real connection, relationship, dynamic between CA and JB? Something is going on. Not asserting that there is a “love connection” but there is something beyond attorney-client here.
And I so concur with the thoughts about what kind of witness would agree to testify without disclosing potential topics? This just can’t be real – there can not be one mis-step piled on top of another and another and another and so on. I am a paralegal and it makes me sick to watch this. Part of my job is to make sure my attorneys have their ducks in a row. Did JB work with anyone to prepare for this case – anyone who stopped him at any time to question his lines of questioning, his theroy, his sanity?
And it seems that I am seeing well spoken professional people giving the nod to the defense, explaining the strides the defense is making. Are we watching the same trial?
(All written prior to Tuesday’s testimony.)
Bringing over from BEW thread.
Sammy says:
June 21, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Holy Moly Blink … in the middle of yet another painful day of the Baez Circus Defense, we are treated to a new Blink article.
Absolutely LOVE your artwork photo of Rodriquez, Huntington, and Spitz –> buried up to their necks in lies!
Jeff Aston’s own body farm of disgraced defense witnesses. lol
===>What time is Dana’s show scheduled for tonight ??<===
… I don’t want to miss it.
9PM EST, updating links as we speak, deadlines and all that-
Main link:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/
Will update the active link or Live link about an hour prior to showtime.
B
Geez -”NEW” -not- ‘BEW ‘
excuse please
wanting to let people know –
===>What time is Dana’s show scheduled for tonight ??<===
… I don’t want to miss it.
9PM EST, updating links as we speak, deadlines and all that-
Main link:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/
Will update the active link or Live link about an hour prior to showtime.
B
Personally, I think maybe JB and CA had a lil thing going when she was spending all day in his office, but now that shes been arrested and is now on trial, I think perhaps its cooled down considerably .
Yhis is just MHO, there was just some kinda slimy energy between those two .
lol, my BFF, same deal.
Let’s keep status. Heart U, L.
B
annals,
The sticker-backing appears to match to the black sheet that only has 3 remaining red metallic stickers.
The cut-out or punched-out heart-shape that seems to match to the uneven edges of the loose sticker backing appears on the bottom row of the sheet. An item laying partially underneath that black sheet can be seen through the punched-out areas, showing that the sticker backings on the bottom row of the black sheet have been removed.
Don’t know if there were any raised hearts on that sheet at one time, but it’s interesting that the loose sticker backing has an approx 1/8 inch red metallic border (like the remaining sticker backings on the sheet), and is approx 1 inch in overall size.
The raised heart found at Suburban is approx 3/4 inch (a dime is also 3/4 inches).
That is a 1/4 inch size difference that could account for the 1/8 inch red metallic border all around .
So the raised heart could fit the shape/size of the white part of the sticker backing.
JB described the items from the box being from a baby shower – - – didn’t he say in his opening that there was no baby shower?
The DT sure were fighting to keep the sticker evidence out.
The heart sticker backing was found with Caylee birth-related items.
I would not be surprised if the heart sticker from that backing was used for “the end of life”.
No other stickers were found in the home except in the accused’s bedroom – - – and in drawers, etc., not in open view.
Because LKB entered the various heart sticker items into evidence, I believe, one way or another, the raised sticker found on Suburban is going to be connected to CA along with presentation that CA did apply a heart sticker of some type on the duct tape covering little Caylee’s mouth.
Thanks, so much for your response, WPG. We’re on the same page, then.
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Re: Angela_nw says:
June 21, 2011 at 12:00 pm
No sweat, Angela; the State has been all over this one since January 2009.
By the way, WPG, the sticker evidence has kinda stickered itself in my mind for a long time now. Logicly I want to throw it out as superfluious. The fact of duct tape on Caylee’s skull is the main issue; who cares whether it had a heart sticker on it also. It’s too macabre and obscure since the residue has been dissolved.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt that the heart sticker was put on the duct tape and by Casey; it’s just that the State doesn’t need it. So why does this bit of evidence nag me? I think you just explained that to me.
I wondered why the backing was placed in a memoribelia box and not just tossed into the trash. Your phrase, “used for the end of life” nailed it for me. The backing is a negative image of the heart; the shaddow. And Casey deliberately saved it in a memory box. Chilling.
OMG . . . big, big, typo on my part!
Ackkkk!!
Should be LDB not LKB!
Apologies to Linda Drane Burdick . . .
ps
annals, it is chilling, as you described.
Also, the sticker(s) contribute in tying her to the disposing of little Caylee at the trash site on Suburban Drive beyond a reasonable doubt.
To accuse anyone else is not reasonable considering the totality of evidence.
lol, we knew who you meant!
It hit me in the gullet yesterday when I was discussing the case with Mark Nejame offline, and at this point his concerns are more that a guilty verdict will be overturned, than anything.
B
re:annals..you are soooo smart!!!!!!!!!! That is likely exactly why she kept that ‘backing’ of the sticker!!!!!I kept recalling seeing that in the evidence photos ect……and wondering …why she’d keep it ect…exactly!!!!!
“It hit me in the gullet yesterday when I was discussing the case with Mark Nejame offline, and at this point his concerns are more that a guilty verdict will be overturned, than anything.
B”
Well, this would go along with my belief that Mrs.A’s note-taking is for the purpose of getting her despicable daughter off no matter what.
Her facial expressions of anger, IMO, are not directed at the murderer of her granddaughter, but at everyone else who is exposing her daughter’s guilt.
Her daughter is a danger to society and cannot be set free, IMO.
What is NeJames’ thinking – - – ineffective counsel?
The case can be retried can’t it?
Blink listened to the show last night…really good and love that Mr. NeJame..he and you make a lot of sense!
Thanks Julie, but WPG pointed the way.
I always thought of Casey’s placement of the sticker on the duct tape as a bizarrely trite goodbye gesture; Sorry, baby, you had to be used this way, I loved you. Without actually analysing this thought.
WPG pointed me to a deeper meaning in his post #24 on this page. The deeper meaning and potential motive for saving the backing is, to me, suggestive of either a trophy or a message to Cindy. Chilling either way.
Formation of chloroform and chlorinated organics by free-chlorine-mediated oxidation of triclosan.
Environ Sci Technol. 2005 May 1;39(9):3176-85
Rule KL, Ebbett VR, Vikesland PJ., Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, 418 Durham Hall, Virginia Polytechnic and State University, Blacksburg, Virginia 24060-0361, USA.
The widely used antimicrobial agent triclosan (5-chloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol) readily reacts with free chlorine under drinking water treatment conditions. Overall second-order kinetics were observed, first-order in free chlorine and first-order in triclosan. Over the pH range of 4-11.5, the kinetics were pH sensitive as a result of the pH dependent speciation of both triclosan and free chlorine. Using a Marquardt-Levenberg routine, it was determined that this pH effect indicates that the dominant reaction in this system is between the ionized phenolate form of triclosan and hypochlorous acid (HOCl). The overall second-order rate coefficient was determined to be kArO- = 5.40 (+/- 1.82) x 10(3) M(-1) s(-1). Three chlorophenoxyphenols and two chlorophenols were identified by gas chromatographic-mass spectroscopic analysis. The chlorophenoxyphenol compounds include two monochlorinated triclosan derivatives (5,6-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoy)phenol and 4,5-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol) and one dichlorinated derivative (4,5,6-trichloro-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol); these species form via bimolecular electrophilic substitution of triclosan. 2,4-Dichlorophenol was detected under all reaction conditions and forms via ether cleavage of triclosan. In experiments with excess free chlorine, 2,4,6-trichlorophenol was formed via electrophilic substitution of 2,4-dichlorophenol. Chloroform formation was observed when an excess of free chlorine was present. A Hammett-type linear free-energy relationship (LFER) using Brown-Okamoto parameters (sigma+) was established to correlate the reactivity of HOCI and the phenolate forms of triclosan and other chlorophenols (log kArO- = -(10.7 +/- 2.2)Sigmasigma(+)o,m,p + 4.43). This LFER was used to obtain estimates of rate coefficients describing the reactivity of the intermediates 5,6-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 6 x 10(2)), 4,5-dichloro-2-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 3 x 10(2)), and 4,5,6-trichloro-(2,4-dichlorophenoxy)phenol (kArO- approximately equal to 4 x 10(1)).
PMID: 15926568 [PubMed - in process]
“Showering is suspected as the primary cause of elevated chloroform in nearly every home because of the chlorine in the water. Chloroform levels increase up to 100 times during a ten-minute shower in residential water” – Environmental Protection Agency – Dr. Lance Wallace. Turns out chlorine bleach in your shower turns into chloroform steam. That is the stuff bad guys use to knock out there victims!
Pools have chlorine don’t they?
paul says:
June 22, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Pools have chlorine don’t they?
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Yes, but the Ant’s didn’t use chlorine in their pool. IIRC, they stated they used bromine.
annals says:
June 21, 2011 at 10:45 pm
WPG says:
June 22, 2011 at 12:07 am
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IIRC, Kio Marie-Cruz mentioned to Detective Melich in one of her interviews that not only did her and Casey go to Suburban Drive area when they were kids to bury pets, but that Casey was known even back then to put little heart stickers at the burial area of the deceased pet. This would keep in tune with what you just stated WRT the “end of life” scenario with Casey. Yes, it is in fact chilling. Cindy and George raised quite the offspring, didn’t they?
Ok, I watch the trial everyday and follow everything and am a member of Justice for Caylee groups but OMG —- who is the moron that brought up the Fumble In Nebraska of 1984! And just an fyi, it is the Nebraska cornhuskers not corner huskers or whatever you said.
This is a case about the death of a 3 year old little girl–don’t drag football into it especially the cornhuskers. Go dig up old footage of the gators or some other team. Did you do a word search for fumble on Youtube? Great research–don’t quit your day job!!
http://www.slide.com/r/Yjj6apnn6z8h8K21a6gPazz_mgADoefD
Pictures Casey posted online in August 2007 on myslide.com.
Oh my…that “female” defense attorney that is now sitting next to Casey looks like an ugly MAN…lol
joan- respectfully, please leave Pat out of this. She is an excellent attorney and the only one she has she may not want to schtup.
B
“I always thought of Casey’s placement of the sticker on the duct tape as a bizarrely trite goodbye gesture; Sorry, baby, you had to be used this way, I loved you. ”
Very true.
And we don’t know if after she killed Caylee that she may have had some fleeting moments of regret.
“The fact of duct tape on Caylee’s skull is the main issue; who cares whether it had a heart sticker on it also. It’s too macabre and obscure since the residue has been dissolved.”
The point of the heart is very clear….it tells the jury that a rather immature girl did this….not some meter reader, and not George.
Dear Joan, while I respect your right to comment, I would like to say that contempt for women has no place in my view here in particular. I see BOC as a safe and pro-active ‘container’ or haven, so to speak, for women. Making fun of women, esp. women doing this to another, and in regards to their appearance is not appropriate, relevant, nor kind imo. Nor does it matter to me if this women is a good or competent attorney; she is a human being. I really thought “we” had moved beyond this sort of commentary on each other at this point in history. Clearly not.
ok, fair response, I also addressed it, let’s move on, as I believe the point has been made adequately.
B
“The point of the heart is very clear….it tells the jury that a rather immature girl did this….not some meter reader, and not George.”
Oh, don’t say that…that’s sexist.
If George had found Caylee in the pool, then a drowned Caylee would have been on the BOTTOM of the pool – which would have required George to GO IN and get her out…so Geo would have been soaking wet (something that Baez never mentioned).
And….think about…if you saw a baby on the bottom of the pool, you would immediately begin screaming to call 911 before even going in the water. So, the Baez Story doesn’t make sense.
And…anyone with a pool does ONE thing when they can’t find a child…they always look in the pool FIRST…always. I’m a pool owner so I know that’s what people do.
AN OPEN LETTER TO DEFENSE ATTORNEY CHENEY MASON:
Dear Mr. Mason:
Going into the Casey Anthony trial, I held you in the highest regard, considering you to be a gentleman and a scholar. I must tell you, though I’m sure it matters not one whit to you in the overall scheme of things, that having soberly listened to you speak following the “Not Guilty” verdicts as to Caylee’s homicide in the trial as well as to the interview you gave on HLN, I’ve forever lost that respect. Along with millions of others globally, I have accepted the verdicts and the jury’s decisions, regardless of our personal feelings and consummately respectful of the dictates of our United States Constitution. We have faith in God far exceeding that of ANY form of government man could ever fashion, accepting that He knows the unvarnished truth in all things and will sit in final Judgment ANY time His loving gift of human life is befouled in the manner that tiny Caylee Anthony was. You paint us all with an egotistical, sweeping brush of condemnation by sarcastically referring to us a “jackals”, “idiots” “mindless”, “geniuses” etc. – and that, too, is your right under the Constitution we live by. However, you lied by proxy when you stood behind Mr. Baez’s Opening Argument accusations that Caylee accidentally drowned on June 16, 2008… and then admitted, post-trial, that we may never know what happened to this precious child. A young man paid a handsome price in terms of liberty and monetarily for a hand gesture that you, in turn, wholly disgraced your profession and personal character by displaying in a public situation you KNEW would be photographically memorialized for the world – and more specifically those who feel Caylee was denied justice – to see. Rather than accept responsibility and/or concede your glee and sense of triumph at telling those who dare question your methods and motives to f— off, you’re deflecting responsibility with some nonsense about directing the gesture solely at a single individual who’s been harassing your team and asking about your female member’s menstrual cycles, etc. Were that the only individual you were gesturing to, why, may I ask, did you not take him to task under the laws and Constitution you so vociferously profess to admire, thereby sparing the feelings of those who genuinely mourn Caylee’s death? You chastise us with an admonishment to “learn how to be good citizens”… perhaps you should lead by example.
The span of time souls spend on this earth constitutes a mere blink of an eye when measured against the inevitable reality of Eternity. All of us, in the end, must answer to an Authority far superior to that of any declaration set forth on parchment, and I submit for your honest reflection one sincere inquiry: Is this particular “high point” in your career one God will deem to be as honorable as you purport? For if you attained it by championing horrendous, entirely unproven lies and seizing upon the the misdirection and confusion to which they give rise, what does that truly say of the life you’ve led? Enjoy it as you will, Mr. Mason, wrapped in your self-righteous cloak of the United States Constitution… the same Constitution which, in infancy, deemed black people to be sub-human “property”. But you and those responsible for this baby’s death and/or other like atrocities, though your earthly lives may be long in years, materially rich, and well enjoyed, will soon enough stand naked before our Maker, your real and true motives exposed to his all-knowing eyes. Perhaps God will regard ‘saving the life’ of one by destroying those of others no more an honorable victory than the Death Penalty will ever be over evil.
You will notice that I have NOT chosen to remain anonymous, Mr. Mason. I fear no mere man, regardless of his ill-gotten status, resources, and/or power, when it comes to speaking the truth. I sincerely wish the best of luck to you, your team, and those you’ve represented in this matter… for when I am called to stand before God’s end of earthly life judgment, I would most certainly loathe to be in your shoes.
[My full name, address, and phone number were included with Mason's copy of this e-mail]