Kyron Horman Missing: Civil Suit Against Terri Horman DELAYED AND SEALED- Prompted By NEW LEADS
Portland, OR- As many of you have been following since June 2010, there is a new development today in the disappearance of Kyron Horman.
As predicted at BOC, the civil suit brought by Deisree Young, Kyron’s Mother, against Terri Horman, Kyron’s step-mother and the defacto suspect in his disappearance has been granted an abatement.
In a sealed filing, motions by Assistant District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton were granted, delaying the suit . The motions included supporting affidavits that continuing the action as already ruled would compromise the investigation.
The decision presents an ironic twist .
Terri Horman’s lawyers originally fought vehemently to abate the action, but were unsuccessful. As recently as last week, the Judge in the case ordered medical records to be accessible to both parties to the action.
In Judge Kantnor’s decision to NOT abate the suit at the request of Attorney Peter Bunch for Terri Horman, the Multnomah County Prosecutors Office declared “no position” on the matter after being contacted by the court.
It is not known if that order prompted the request to delay the suit .
Sheriff Stanton, Eldin Rosenthal, Norm Frink and Stephen Houze declined comment at press time.
On Monday, Judge Henry Kantor granted the motions to abate the civil proceeding and ordered the motions and affidavits filed by the district attorney and sheriff sealed.
A hearing had been scheduled for Dec. 14 to hear Young’s attorney argue before the court to compel testimony from DeDe Spicher, an alleged witness in the case. Today’s ruling is likely to render a postponement of that proceeding.
Sheriff Dan Staton, told Oregon Live, it is based on early leads that are now panning out:
“There are a couple of investigative pieces that are going to open up,” Staton told The Oregonian Tuesday. “Our belief is they’re going to open up several investigative doors.”
He said the new “investigative avenues” are based on information collected in the early phase of the investigation that are now yielding some results.
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some issues about what Kaine says and how he says it.
First, he told of how Terri complained to a girlfriend that she flunked her lie detector test. This was not intended for public broadcast yet he did just that. What guilty person would say she flunked? He apparently didn’t think about that when he spread it around.
The other weirdness is how he talks. Like a robot. LIke he is speaking to a conference, a seminar, a business meeting. He tells us how he is grieving, misses Kyron, etc, but he does not EXPRESS emotion. Look at some of his interviews. Utterly controlled. and controlling. When he threw those reporters out of that press conference he made it clear that to get access to HIM, you needed to follow his rules. Ask only approved questions. What’s the deal with that? What dad takes time to shave his head and eyebrows before he appears in public to talk about his missing son? we all talked about it at the time, and tried to understand. He strives to present a blank slate and convince only with carefully controlled words, not body language.
Blink has asked some form of this question over and over, and we need to seriously ponder, why a DEA agent accompanied RS to TH & KH’s front door. IMO, it says to me that the Hormans individually, or as a couple and, or RS, or the three of them together were involved with something of interest to the DEA. Money laundering, drugs, IDK, but something other than a MFH, which would be of interest to local LE, or maybe even the FBI if it tied into a kidnapping, but the DEA, why?
KH denies knowing the landscaper, yet he is reported by BOC to have set the wheels in motion for TH to fire him the May prior to Kyron’s disappearance, which was mere weeks. What is so terrible in saying I told my wife to fire the landscaper? Could KH’s knowledge of RS be an explanation of his overall odd behaviors and contradictions? I think we need to add KH’s denial of knowledge of RS with the odd occurrence of the DEA injecting themselves in to what should have been Portland Police or MSCO jurisdiction, and see where that leads.
09-09-10
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Rudy is the owner of RS Landscape Maintenance and the alleged former landscaper/ love interest of Terri Horman. He is also the man who says Terri Horman asked him to murder her husband Kaine late last year. Investigators clearly believed his story as it was the basis for an attempted sting on June 26th by MCSO including an undercover
DEA agent.
While blinkoncrime.com has not been able to verify the date of the alleged 911 call, we have been able to verify that Terri called her Mother immediately following the incident and told her that Kaine had found out about the landscaper she hired to do what she referred to as “her yardwork” and when she informed him that she could no longer use him because Kaine was making her fire him, he lunged at her with Kiara in her arms. Kaine Horman denies the couple ever hired the landscaper as well as any previous information as to his estranged wife’s possible dealings with Sanchez.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/#more-4549
btw. Lest anyone think I posted something private or nefarious, is it safe to say my “detour” was a url link to a law firm’s own website, with the boiled down comment some info on that law firm site meant nothing.
Is it possible Kantor already ruled and it was kept under seal? This is just so weird, usually judges are men of their word. Two weeks would normally mean just that.
It’s wise to remind Blink thinks a DEA Repr at the doorstep posing as tge assassin to be or compatriot of Rudy is significant.
On the other hand, I’ve suggested
1) DEA personnel were likely the only reliable
source of HISPANIC LE investigators in the likely whitery- tighty world
of mcso gresham et al.
2) DEA personnel were likely the only experienced “sting” LE accessible to mcso other than PPB with whom Staton seemed to have an iffy relationship–likely not gonna ask Reese for a “Sting-er” as Reese would opine on the operation.
3) the very involved hands-on-in-front of the cameras relatively new FBI local office’ Dir background was deugs & DEA related.
So I don’t read much in to recruiting an Hispanic Sting prop from the local DEA. Probably the lical Secret Service has more Hispanics than mcso.
apologies for all those typos btw
erose says:
April 8, 2013 at 3:26 am
Blink has asked some form of this question over and over, and we need to seriously ponder, why a DEA agent accompanied RS to TH & KH’s front door.
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Maybe Rudy is a DEA snitch and the DEA wanted to make sure no harm came to him in the sting. For all they knew TH could have answered the door with an implement of singular destruction(ISD) and used it on Rudy.
erose says:
April 8, 2013 at 3:26 am
Blink has asked some form of this question over and over, and we need to seriously ponder, why a DEA agent accompanied RS to TH & KH’s front door. IMO, it says to me that the Hormans individually, or as a couple and, or RS, or the three of them together were involved with something of interest to the DEA. Money laundering, drugs, IDK, but something other than a MFH, which would be of interest to local LE, or maybe even the FBI if it tied into a kidnapping, but the DEA, why?
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@erose,
Good question. The Feds descended on Portland after Ky disappeared, Kaine did go silent for a time, and there was an explosion of drug and child pornography busts. I also think there is a Tax Evasion/IRS component to this.
And I think any of it could apply to either Horman, RS or even DS. Or maybe it has nothing to do with Ky, but there does seem to be a connection. Remember Desiree saying something along the lines of Kyron saw it all, or was a part of it all. Something like that.
Could it be that Terri Horman recognized the DEA officer and maybe she said so in her 911 call? Is the DEA the infamous lien holder of the truck used in the sting?
No.
B
LOL, I spent so much time trying to figure out that lien holder I hate to even bring it up again, but I thought I’d ask. Thanks.
erose says:
April 8, 2013 at 3:26 am
While blinkoncrime.com has not been able to verify the date of the alleged 911 call, we have been able to verify that Terri called her Mother immediately following the incident and told her that Kaine had found out about the landscaper she hired to do what she referred to as “her yardwork” and when she informed him that she could no longer use him because Kaine was making her fire him, he lunged at her with Kiara in her arms. Kaine Horman denies the couple ever hired the landscaper as well as any previous information as to his estranged wife’s possible dealings with Sanchez.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/09/09/kyron-horman-missing-case-review-and-birthday-wishes-to-the-frog-prince/#more-4549
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there is no such 911 call in the court file. I’m sure Houze would have requested it if it existed.
That information would be work product. Why would he intend to verify something that might implicate his client? How do you know he has not? There is no burden on his part to share that information.
B
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html August 9, 2010:
“That contradicts what multiple sources have told KATU News. In the days before the science fair, Terri informed Kyron’s teacher he had the appointment that day, June 4, which is why no one expected he would be in class and was marked absent.”
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I know reporters don’t give out their sources, but I would just love to know who these “multiple sources” are here. It wasn’t Kaine, nor Desiree and Tony, because according to them, they knew nothing about a doctor appointment (at least at the time). So who are these multiple sources? Hmmmm, who, other than someone from Kyron’s family or his own teacher would be aware of any doctor appointment in the first place? Katu is quoting “multiple sources” saying Terri told these “multiple sources”, days before June 4, that Kyron had an appointment June 4.
Who could *they* be? If one was Kyron’s teacher, who was the other? If neither of these sources were Kyron’s teacher, then who in the heck was it?
I’m not a reporter, but I know I wouldn’t report anything like that unless I had seen something in Terri’s own writing that said Kyron had an appointment on June 4. I wonder sometimes just how much of this *reporting* was based on hearsay and just who was out spewing it.
Emailedith Youith
B
there is a page with photo and info on the missing castillo girl if anyone wants to share it on facebook:
” T. Ruth says:
April 7, 2013 at 10:40 am
Missing Vancouver teen may be sex trafficking victim
VANCOUVER — The past 12 days have been torturous for the family of 16-year-old Isabella Castillo. The Hudson’s Bay High School student disappeared while walking home from school on March 25.
here is the facebook page if anyone wants to share it and spread it around:
https://www.facebook.com/findisabella.castillo?group_id=0
from Blink 3/15/13
“I will repeat what I said within weeks of Ky’s disappearance.
No undercover DEA agent is getting out of bed, risking compromised cover for the target that is TMH unless there is a parallel Fed investigation of some kind somebody thinks is even potentially tangenitally related to this case or some party to this case. These guys are the best in the biz and go in deep. B”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/11/27/kyron-horman-missing-civil-suit-against-terri-horman-delayed-and-sealed/comment-page-38/
I don’t think DEA came in due to Rudy as he wasn’t “tracked down” until about June 18 per press.
looking to see MCSO’ Detectives drug investigations w/Hispanics, I found one due to a community tip:
http://eastpdxnews.com/general-news-features/sheriff’s-‘special-investigators’-rid-outer-east-portland-streets-of-heaps-of-drugs/
1) community tip (a rival?)
2) medical mj caregiver (secondary selling)
3) apt meth lab
So if these mcso detectives pick up street level sellers, does DEA do
large distribution networks, or higher ups in the pyramids?
Seems to me gyms are logical distribution sites. You carry bags in, carry them out.
Easy to swap.
I think the next Sheriff campaigner should include diversity goals. I don’t remember seeing women, asians, blacks,
hispanics in River Patrol, detective, or hierarchy pictures.
an old case. DEA busts participants in steroid gym ring.
(guys arrested worried as they were led away that they’d “get small”)
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-11-20/news/1992325026_1_steroids-dea-task-force-undercover-agent
IMO The sting
LE/DEA knew TH had a gun in the house. She had already called 911 to say she was physically harassed by RS in May of that year.
If TH had been the murdering schemer that LE thought she was, then shooting RS and claiming self defense would be the perfect way to shut him up forever. I believe she had already reported him as an intruder on the property that day.
I’ll bet RS was wearing a bullet proof vest when he went up tho the Horman’s door that day. The DEA agent may have gone along to make sure nothing happened to their snitch RS.
@erose. Changed my thinking, tho Blink says it’s peripheral, as I found this:
“Laura Rackner, Kaine Horman’s attorney, declined to comment Saturday
night other than to say: “I just want to do whatever is going to help law enforcement right now.” ”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html
a random selection of OR DOJ cases led by DEA shows they affiliated with numerous PDs, large (PPD) & small (Tigard, Tuatalin) & County Sheriffs (Clackamus) but never found them working with MCSO apart from Kyron.
http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/2003/seattle061303.html
http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/states/newsrel/seattle031305.html
http://www.justice.gov/usao/or/PressReleases/2012/20120504_lopez.html
http://www.justice.gov/usao/or/PressReleases/2012/20120521_orozco.html
On the DEA Site, Seattle Div. Leadership, I learned there is a Portland DEA Sub office supervising 4 other outposts in Oregon. The current Portland leader arrived in 2011.
Canby landscaper/body builder caught distributing steroids to LE , & cooperates
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/05/canby_steroid_suppliers_cooper.html
1 count dismissed due to delay in charging
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2013/03/meth_charge_dropped_against_ma.html
more steroids in Portland area
The federal investigation already has prompted the resignation of four law enforcement officers who also have lost their police certification — Deason, Kroeplin, Washington County narcotics dog handler Jared Gochenour and West Linn Officer Jess Riley.
Riley, who formerly worked as a Milwaukie officer, resigned from West Linn on April 9.
The federal inquiry also has led to the questioning of Portland Sgt. Charles Brown, who lives in Canby and whose late father was a retired Canby school superintendent. Portland police have been ordered not to talk about the federal investigation involving Brown.
“I’m not at liberty to discuss anything,” Brown said Monday.
In a letter submitted to a Clackamas County judge Monday, FBI Special Agent Christopher Frazier said that Traverso has discussed his drug distribution activities in detail. “The public safety employees identified by Traverso included law enforcement officers, corrections officers, fire and rescue personnel and university public safety officers,” Frazier wrote, “Several spin-off FBI public corruption investigations were initiated as a result of these allegations, and are ongoing.”
more at link
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/05/canby_steroid_suppliers_cooper.html
@Rose, I remember reading about that Traverso dude long time ago. Looks like he was recently arrested again: (if these sites are accurate)
Offender Name: WILLIAM JAKE TRAVERSO and will still face these charges:
Arrested On: 03/01/2013
Alias1: WILLIAM TRAVERSO
Alias2: WILLIAM J TRAVERSO
Booking ID: 2013006416
Charge:
ORS.811.540-1 – ATTEMPT ELUDE POLICE OFFICER M
ORS.475.894 – PCS-METH
ORS.162.295 – TAMPER W/PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
ORS.475.918 – FALSIFYING DRUG TEST RESULTS
I also remember he had a grey/black truck, like the one described in the Salmonberry sighting of a little boy resembling Kyron
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/02/canby_businessman_arrested_acc.html
What would take so long to prosecute? Being a snitch?
It is public record he was a snitch.
B
from DEA’s Operation Global Warming whose url is above:
“Operation Global Warming attacked this organization by going after their network of vehicles used for the …”
So maybe that lienholder would be informative TRuth. Could be an asset in an enterprise.
Canby Landscape Supply is owned by Traverso’s parents. I get a Robert D. Traverso and his mother Nancy L. Traverso. Robert also has an interest in Parker Development:
Parker Development Co has a location in Oregon City, OR. Active officers include Robert Traverso. The company’s line of business includes Paving.
direct dial: (503) 266-5552
Category: PavingAdministrator of private estates, nonoperating
A.K.A.: Rossman’s Landfill, Parker Northwest Paving Co;
Source: Dun & Bradstreet last refreshed 3/13/2013
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Rossman’s landfill where is that? Where is the non-operating Rossman’s landfill?
I guess this is it.
http://www.deq.state.or.us/lq/ECSI/ecsidetail.asp?seqnbr=674
I thought Traverso family was a Calif landscape business; dad’s photo with workers favors son
Canby’s son Traverso was a major informant to save his own bacon informing on multiple PD customers, so imo all PDs would itch to arrest him as a snitch on police for anything (& imo an addict will reoffend, & this addict especially will fear, resist arrest. After all, if he’s accidently tased to death, or perishes mysteriously in jail, he can’t testify.) My reading memory is Prosecutor waited 23 mos to charge 1 meth count, with 5 mo lag unexplained, & Judge found dismissal as a matter of law due to prosecutor’s time lag. (made me think potential Horman charges, unless there’s been GJ efforts.
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the miracle is the I-5 DEA team focusing on MX-Calif-Or didnt look at the Calif scion’s business. Maybe son snitched to compartmentalize from CA.
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You know, imo any de facto suspect who went to 3 pharmacies in 2 hours (maybe leaving truck at a distance, door unlocked, with vehicle visitors in camera), then went to gym for a short time, oughta be ruled out by DEA.
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example:
1/18/12 comment re Gold’s gym in las vegas: DEA’s outside watching for steroid dealors http://m.yelp.com/biz/golds-gym-las-vegas-4
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btw Briede’s linkedin evolves & is more complex each time I glance
Maybe I am overthinking, but when that article I quoted said they were looking for someone in the white truck and then the next paragraph said LE tracked down the landscaper, I have to wonder if that was the first time they spoke with them.
Stands to reason that the Hormans would have been investigated immediately, and the prior 911 call wrt RS would have come up in any preliminary report. That seems like the time TH would have pointed her finger at RS.
Maybe RS was someone that required more than one interview. Just speculation.
Rose says:
April 8, 2013 at 10:53 pm
snip>
I don’t think DEA came in due to Rudy as he wasn’t “tracked down” until about June 18 per press.
O/T Isabella Castillo has been found!!
What would take so long to prosecute? Being a snitch?
It is public record he was a snitch.
B
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Yes, my question is “Is he STILL snitching?” Is that what has taken so long?
Why else would it take so long to prosecute. If the guy has knowledge of LE being on the take, whether drugs or money laundering or whatever, how would his attorneys handle this? One case at a time? One snitch at a time? “My client may have more information……” IDK, just asking.
“We can either manage people coming into the building, or is it better to manage the students and keep them contained,” said Matt Shelby, a spokesman for Portland Public Schools. “(We’re) not quite sure yet, it’s going to be a little different for every school and for every situation.”
With video cameras just about everywhere, some parents wondered why they’re not in most schools and were not in Skyline.
Shelby said, “that’s something we can look at, but obviously that’s a resource issue as well.”
He said the automated attendance dialing system is not a question of money and every school has the technology but until Horman vanished ***they could choose !!!not!! to use it***.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/95830849.html
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So here’s my question in regard to the above, I think the report said there were like 19 other schools who chose not use it. Why? Firstly, it should never have been a choice, but being as Shelby tells us it is, can anyone here (maybe MbS) tell us who would be the one to decide for each individual school that is in charge of making that decision? Is the school board or is it the Principal, or who? Second question is, would doing so, using the automated call system, cost any school more money….or less, or maybe neither. I would love to know these answers, just so we can know why a school would decide not to contact parents when a child was absent and/or wait until late afternoon to do so. Sorry, if someone has already gone over these questions….it’s been almost three years, but I don’t recall ever seeing this info.
grasshopper says:
April 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm
In a letter submitted to a Clackamas County judge Monday, FBI Special Agent Christopher Frazier said that Traverso has discussed his drug distribution activities in detail. “The public safety employees identified by Traverso included law enforcement officers, corrections officers, fire and rescue personnel and university public safety officers,” Frazier wrote, “Several spin-off FBI public corruption investigations were initiated as a result of these allegations, and are ongoing.”
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Oh my goodness, how did I miss that…….”fire and rescue personnel”? And DAD hurt his arm in around the same time this report came out, as well as Kyron goes missing. So has anyone been able to find the “spin-off” investigations?
I’m now seeing possible credence to the story the person posted about DAD witnessing a cop doing something on SI and being afraid of police retribution. Wow.
Can’t follow all fascinating sleuthing right now. Will read up later.
But wanted to let you know that there is nothing more in the docket to date.
That means no ORDER to abate, btw. More later.
But has anyone looked into this:
http://domainsigma.com/whois/codymeyersfoundation.org
Why would Kaine’s name be on it? Has anyone closely followed this case? I do know Kaine has relatives in California.
Blink. I will email you.
@TRuth. If every school had the technology, imo it was a human resource issue to implement.
since the office clerks implement it, and are responsible to contact homes, Imo in
a school like Skyline the principal probably left it to his attendance lady as to which method
she chose. We know in Skyline’s case the job fell to one person who’d been there a
couple decades & was/is much loved. I imagine that very longevity, doing things a certain way,
made her unlikely to implement a new available technology, both skills-wise & attitudinally.
And I don’t think a first time young male principal, whose kid was in the school, so you
wouldn’t want to ruffle a longtime friend of his teachers, would require her to get those new skills
& use it.
Anyone see any instances of mcso being on DEA’s “cooperated in a case”
list over the last decade?
If not, & in charge of rural Mult Cty, imo that’s telling. Esp since DEA targets meth labs &
med mj abuses.
Have not.
B
I don’t know if this is a good site or not, but after reading the links and comments about the steroids, body builders, Police, etc. connections, I thought I recalled reading that someone had claimed to witness Terri and a Police Officer loading something into the trunk of a Police car. I googled and found this.
Tarheel, I no longer link to scraped content and unsourced information- not credible.
B
1 reason for Traverso delay http://wa.findacase (dot) com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20120716_0001535.WWA.htm/qx
Missing Vancouver teen found safe after 2 weeks
by KGW.com Staff
Posted on April 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Updated today at 9:02 AM
VANCOUVER — A missing Vancouver teen has been found safe.
Isabella Castillo disappeared while walking home from Hudson Bay High School on March 25. Police said she appeared to be unharmed when she was found Tuesday.
(snipped, more@link)
Police have not yet released any further details about where or how she was found.
http://www.kgw.com/home/Missing-Vancouver-teen-found-safe-202223321.html
I think I’m getting my characters mixed up here, but I’ll ask anyway.
The houseboat on S.I.
Wasn’t that houseboat owned by a guy who was fine, upstanding, without blemish and a former LE officer, or something to do with LE.
Wasn’t he connected to the Hormans in some way — child a friend of Kyrons, or something? Would he have known T and K, since that little neighborhood bar is right close to where he lives, and where they lived – Hwy 30?
Was that the same houseboat where there were rumors about cadaver dogs catching a scent.
Did I read something about something bumping up under the houseboat? (not all that unusual on a river, I suppose)
DAD’s brother lives on S.I.
Blink said the guy in the houseboat was a decorated officer, or something that made me stop asking, since he seemed to be above any kind of suspicion.
Google pictures show the houseboat, also him with a couple of young ladies (probably relatives), also houseboat was sold, didn’t he move to CA or somewhere?
Makes one wonder how or if DAD is the key to everything, especially since LE would usually make a first priority of catching someone who shot a LE officer. –unless someone in LE doesn’t want him to say anything and took care of that situation, thereby causing DAD to drop off the face o’ the earth.
Everybody is fair game for suspicion, in my opinion, until Kyron is found.
@ T. Ruth says: April 9, 2013 at 10:05 pm
grasshopper says:April 9, 2013 at 4:26 pm
I’m now seeing possible credence to the story the person posted about DAD witnessing a cop doing something on SI and being afraid of police retribution. Wow.
vw says:
April 10, 2013 at 12:37 am
Can’t follow all fascinating sleuthing right now. Will read up later.
But wanted to let you know that there is nothing more in the docket to date.
That means no ORDER to abate, btw. More later.
But has anyone looked into this:
http://domainsigma.com/whois/codymeyersfoundation.org
here are the sites
internet http://www.codymyersfoundation.org
facebook likes on this page include several kyron pages and lower on the page, pictures of myron and apparel for the Kyron run
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cody-Myers-Music-Outreach-Foundation/251857748195583
don’t know what to make of this. is Kaine becoming a non-profit consultant or does he own this foundation?
Kaine does not own it, but I am not getting a guidestar rating under any permutation of the name.
B
please excuse Kyron becoming myron. whenever I don’t capitalize it, computer changes that name.
illegal drug labs in OR??
http://www.justice.gov/dea/clan-lab/or.pdf
@blink
Kaine does not own it, but I am not getting a guidestar rating under any permutation of the name.
B
Speak English to (some of) us. LOL. What does guidestar mean and has anyone made any connections or followed that case? Why is Kaine’s name on it?
Here’s another “conundrom”. There was an overturn of an appeal by this perp recently and Maxine covered the appeal hearing. If you haven’t read it it is fairly current:
OREGONIAN LINK: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/03/notorious_child_killer_larry_l.html
I don’t think Maxine was out of college then, but she notes similarities in both cases:
“The Hanset case shares some similarities to the current mystery surrounding the June 2010 disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, which touched off one of the biggest searches in state history when he vanished from Skyline School. Kyron is still missing and police have made no arrests.
Michael Hanset’s disappearance also gripped the community, with neighbors and family members going door to door for days looking for the boy, a first-grader at Buckman Elementary School.
“I feel for Kyron’s dad because I know what he’s going through,” Sandra Hanset said after the hearing. “At least, I have some answers.”
Now…I searched the Oregonian for the original coverage of the case, but could not find it. On Google Search I found this True Crimes article. I am not familiar with the integrity of True Crimes writers, but found this article straightforward and interesting. I do wonder if Maxine even researched the original case.
True crime, August 10
http://truecrimecases.blogspot.com/2012/08/larry-lerch
You’ll see why when you read the article. Guess who the court-appointed defense lawyer was?
Yep. Maxine doesn’t mention that in her extended analogy. And reading the script, if it is accurate, I can see why Houze would do everything possible to not allow a “confession” to be taken down in the Horman case, let alone coerced ala Kafve in “Swimming with the Sharks”.
That said, I think they got the right guy years ago. But you never know. The “confession” is even suspect, according to this articel. And the way that the physical evidence was discounted makes you wonder even more.
IF…and it’s a BIG IF,..LE is waiting still for any kind of physical evidence and they have NOT shamed TMH into a confession….what is their case consisting of? More heresay? And Houze has had a multitude of private and public trials since this one.
If anyone has already researched this early murder case, i’d love to read some live accounts.
Guidestar rates and provided data on non-profits
B
@Truth
“We can either manage people coming into the building, or is it better to manage the students and keep them contained,” said Matt Shelby, a spokesman for Portland Public Schools. “(We’re) not quite sure yet, it’s going to be a little different for every school and for every situation.”
With video cameras just about everywhere, some parents wondered why they’re not in most schools and were not in Skyline.
Shelby said, “that’s something we can look at, but obviously that’s a resource issue as well.”
He said the automated attendance dialing system is not a question of money and every school has the technology but until Horman vanished ***they could choose !!!not!! to use it***.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/95830849.html
Thanks for bringing that one up again. It just astounds me that Shelby said that about “containing students vs containing visitors” and he should have been reprimanded for such a stupid comment.
And the cameras…..even after Kyron went missing he’s worried about “cost”?
Yes, they could before Kyron “choose not to use it”. But is that and the “containment” choice even an issue to be debated? THEY LOST KYRON. So much for “containing” when NOONE saw him leave…even with his mother.
And then there’s the little issue of their Super, Carole, coming to the Mikes on Sunday and, oh so firmly, stating that attendance WILL BE called into parents at ALL schools. The cart before the cart? Other districts had been manually or via computer calling parents for years. My high school has had cameras for decades. All doors have been secured after the bell rings for years.
SKYLINE had security negligence…not choices that were willy-nelly. By the SUPERINTENDENT immediately closing the door after the horse bounded she was admitting negligence. PPS, and all schools, are RESPONSIBLE for student safety from the minute (*8:35) that they walk in the door until the minute (2:45) that they leave. That’s why safeguards MUST BE in place to assure that children don’t leave without a parent.
I know….but how can a school protect against a parent taking a child…and doing the “unimaginable”??
That’s why the little “sign out” sheet is in place at all schools. TMH was a volunteer. Wouldn’t she have signed out?
I think that Skyline school was more than just LUCKY that heads turned toward TMH rather than the backpack and coat still left in Porter’s room.
hi everyone. I have read all the comments of all the oregonlive articles from june 4-through june 7 (a lot lol) and have found no reference to any kids facebooks talking about a creepy guy or any reference to any kids facebooking. I will keep going a few days more when I get the chance. so far though the only reference I can find at all is the original post on web sleuth by “neighbor” about it, and the reference to that in scared monkeys. I don’t know how reliable neighbor is and I am questioning that a bit.
I can only speak to my conversations with neighbor, I can’t confirm any other sites or posting under that name, but here, neighbor is legit and verified by me personally.
B
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Wash-Co-man-arrested-for-trespass-sex-abuse-of-horse-202510171.html
Portland Local News
Wash. Co. man arrested for trespass, sex abuse of horse
HILLSBORO — A man was arrested Wednesday for repeatedly trespassing into a Washington County barn and sexually abusing a horse.
Tony Hall-Rivas, 47, was taken into custody without incident at his home near the community of Manning, said sheriff’s office spokesman Sgt. Bob Ray.
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Good grief, this is just so sick. I never realized the were so many effed up people in this world. Connection to Spink’s group?
sam hawhtorne says:
April 11, 2013 at 1:48 am
Following are a blink on crime URL and a scared monkeys URL where posters seem to be talking about the creepy guy. I am not sure if neighbor ever verified the creepy guy rumor on BOC.
Hope the URL’s help.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/comment-page-202/#comment-1736956
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9000.msg1275969#msg1275969
Multnomah County judge delays pending Horman divorce case until August 1, 2013
amychika- correct link:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/04/multnomah_county_judge_delays.html
Will be most interesting to see what happens next.
B
@TRuth. You saw in the last week the
Sherwood principal SO sentenced, and the
Spec Ed teacher’s road rage arrest?
TY Amychika. I was thinking yesterday, what if in the most charitable light to J Kantor, “a witness” from last Nov was a DEA or DOJ attorney or investigator representing 9 months were needed to roll up a broad criminal enterprise involving drugs or laundering, thus depos of Kh & DY could not go forward as local LE had confided too much to them. That is, that it was a matter of public good higher than a grand jury is working on indicting Terri. In tge divorce of course, parental & marital rights are entirely taken without adjudication.
It seems to me that even that public good in the investigation & prosecution of crime would not be enough for J Kantor to set aside State statutes & case law in the divorce. The more important good, to me, is the public’s confidence in their State judicial system. That the State’s statutes are administered evenhandedly and the public can trust the judicial process. In Oregon imo the judicial process seems bankrupt & without accountability. Most of it seems good ol boy appointments are arranged after early resignations & retirements. I have no doubt political donations play a role. I just look to the last AG race where in the primary, between Dems, despite the electee claiming pro-med mj as her turf, argubly he was the stronger more experienced candidate with broader public & LE support. But he hadn’t worked for Goldschmidt, didnt attend his synagogue, and didn’t have that donor base. O have less confidence in tge Mult County bench than I do in MCSO.
I wonder who the South Waterfront commercial property owners are who stand to benefit big time?
Do any connect to the bench, Bar, or elected officials’ investment income streams? There’s the real OLive story. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/04/nike_expansion_portland_consid.html#incart_m-rpt-2
Rose says:
April 11, 2013 at 7:47 pm
I wonder who the South Waterfront commercial property owners are who stand to benefit big time?
The article refers to the Zidell property. This was a superfund site but has become hugely valuable. I believe this is owner. don’t know about connections. this area is site of a couple of OHSU building and the famous tram. I’ll try to find out more. In general, Nike means goldschmidt. Can’t help but wonder if Intel and Nike compete to be Big Dog in portland.
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/print-edition/2012/02/03/jay-zidell-plans-to-develop-portlands.html