Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
If you are reading this and have followed the Kyron Homan disappearance coverage since he vanished from Skyline School on June 4th 2010, you know my coverage and commentary has focused on the macro analysis of the case details- both publicly available and via developed sources. This report contains newly released information known to law enforcement. It’s contents, to include reader commentary and moderation response, may not be reproduced or copied without express written consent by it’s author in accordance with applicable copyright law.
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Last Week’s Meet And Greet
On Tuesday July 30th, the attorneys representing Terri Moulton Horman, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young attended a series of case hearings. Not held in chambers as announced, but public guests were barred.
On the docket- Desiree Young’s “stay” status of the $10 million dollar civil tort action brought against Terri Horman and the dissolution (divorce and custody) litigation brought by Kaine Horman, Terri’s estranged husband. Until July 26th, there were additional hearings and status conferences scheduled for the recently renewed Freedom From Abuse and Protection Act (FAPA) motion to contest and compel depositions in the restraining order prohibiting Terri Horman from contact with the couple’s daughter Kiara, now 5 years old. Horman has not seen her daughter since June 2010 despite several attempts through counsel to arrange parenting time. Engel, one of the attorneys representing Kaine Horman, argues that the FAPA case is consolidated with the divorce action, and therefore stayed.
Peter Bunch, counsel for Terri Horman, argues that there is no consolidation order.
Non attorney’s still do not understand how the initial proceeding to renew the FAPA order occurred when the plaintiff failed to file the required motion and accompanying affidavits in advance as required, or even serve the respondent’s attorneys until ordered to do so by Judge Henry Kantor once the hearing commenced. Kantor ordered the renewal anyway. I will let the goodly Oregon bar members weigh in on that anomaly.
That was then. This is now.
As of July 31st, the FAPA restraining order was expired and a civil no contact order was put in its place. The dissolution matter (divorce) stay has been lifted and Desiree Young announced she was instructing her attorney’s to withdraw the $10 million dollar suit financed by public donations.
On the same front steps where Atty Rosenthal announced that they were launching the suit to peel the onion that is to include law enforcement, and to “make Terri Horman talk” was withdrawn in similar fashion.
However, on this occasion, Multnomah County District Attorney Rod Underhill was not spotted on the steps observing. Rosenthal and Young indicated the recent appearance and testimony of former object of compulsion to testify, DeDe Spicher, as well as information that the investigative case file necessary (their words) to prove their claims would not be forthcoming. In an article analyzing the suit appearing on BOC it was predicted that Ms. Young would face possible countersuit and associated fees should the suit continue as filed.
Attorneys for both Kaine and Terri appeared before Multnomah County Circuit Family law Judge Susan Svetkey on August 1, 2013. Judge Svetkey is Houze’s wife. The docket information for that hearing has not yet been entered into the file as of this publication.
The only comment about the withdrawal of the civil tort action by Stephen Houze:
“The lawsuit was unfounded and lacking in legal merit,” Houze said. “One can only hope that the dismissal of this meritless lawsuit receives the same degree of media scrutiny as was given to its filing.”
In recent interviews, Kaine Horman has intimated that his wife has expressed her desire to help find Kyron, or at least contribute to excluding herself as a possible suspect. He also admitted that he no longer has any communication with Desiree Young, Kyron’s mother. He sometimes wonders what law enforcement is actually doing on his son’s case. This is a firm departure from how Mr. Horman initially retained his six figure attorney Laura Rackner of Gearing, Rackner, and Engel & McGrath. Ms. Rackner appears to have promulgated her duties of late to her partner, Brett Engel.
This all seemed to start when formidable and well known tort Attorney Mark Wagner came out of retirement to appear as counsel for Terri Horman. Wagner and Rackner know each other, and Rackner is no stranger to LE –based dissolution entanglements.
In fact, Wagner represented her and her previous firm successfully.
Bagel Finagle
Kaine Horman’s attorney Laura Rackner is no stranger to law enforcement infused litigation. She is a former prosecutor for Oregon’s department of Justice, The U.S. Department of Justice, and Office of Chief Counsel. Ms. Rackner has specificity in Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) casework.
Born in Minneapolis, Minnesota, Laura received her B.S. in 1979 and her J.D. in 1984, both from the University of Oregon.
Prior to entering private practice, Laura served as deputy district attorney in the Marion County District Attorney’s Office; assistant attorney general in the Oregon Department of Justice; and on the staff of the U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Chief Counsel, Drug Enforcement Administration.
Record Scratch.
Martin Rob Cagan, The bagel king and according to him, a supreme target of a police shakedown at the hands of his former spouse’s attorneys was the litigious sort.
In fact, this may be how Atty Wagner decides to come out of retirement and become part of Terri Horman’s defense team while the civil suit was active.
Wagner’s firm represented Ms. Rackner in a suit filed by Rob Cagan in which he sued the Dueshete Police Department, A partner in the firm representing Caroleen Vanhoomissen, the suit (or ramblings of a very angry divorcee) alleges that the firm and its lawyers facilitated the difficulties of Mr. Cagan utilizing law enforcement sources directly by the attorneys was dismissed.
Ms. Vanhoomissen, the sister of Judge Vanhoomissen is also the owner of a horse farm in Bend, Oregon. Blinkoncrime was unable to verify if it was the Bend horse farm searched in the early days of the investigation for Kyron.
Attorney Rackner’s prior working relationship with the DEA, the very agency that supplied the undercover officer in the failed sting involving Horman landscaper Rudy Sanchez begs the question- Did Rackner use her contacts and/or credentials to facilitate a surreptitious ruse to gain favor for her client in anticipation of his wife’s potential arrest?
Kaine is on record that law enforcement informed him they had probable cause to arrest Terri. What is not on record, is what came first- the referral to Rackner.
I just want to do what I can to help law enforcement
Seems like an odd comment coming from a family attorney with a background as a prosecutor working with the DEA, which agency subsequently becomes involved in the case- or initially led to her representation- the chicken or the egg facts remain unclear.
The ex parte and originally sealed restraining order did not exclude Terri Horman from the marital home. Was this an oversight of a very seasoned family attorney or was the basis of the now defunct restraining order as provided to Kaine Horman and Laura Rackner by law enforcement effectively invalidated by Terri Horman calling 911?
Is the reason that Atty Engel seems to have taken over representation of Kaine Horman due to the fact that these actions could render Ms. Rackner a witness in her client’s case as opposed to his Attorney?
In the motions and subsequent hearing scheduled for July 30th, the only available arguments outside of the parties agreement is to contest the basis for the FAPA order- or, the allegation Kaine Horman has made within his affidavits more than once, that his wife tried to hire “our landscaper” to kill him, and that she is being investigated for “violent crimes.”
The outcome?
The order was converted to a civil no-contact order which has not yet been added to the file for public review.
Desiree and Kaine’s respective camps both claimed “protecting the integrity of the investigation” was their only interest although the ONLY 2 witnesses who were summoned for deposition by Terri Horman’s lawyers were- the lead investigator of Kyron’s investigation for 18 months- Bobby John O’Donnell and Kaine Horman.
Back To School
Skyline School, the International Baccalaureate candidate who announced the IB open house format weeks earlier via take home handouts to its students and also by displaying the event on its marquis has never been declared a crime scene. Although in nearly every legal support brief or news coverage article Terri Horman was dubbed “the last person to be seen with Kyron Horman” or more recently by Desiree Young as “Kyron was last seen by someone who cared about him at 8:45 am” absolutely no witness account or Science Fair insider was known publicly to dispute such accounts.
Until now.
“Once I learned all that was going on that same day, in that same school, I did not understand why I was being told that Terri Horman was the suspect, and one other person… It never made sense to me that they knew Kyron was seen with someone else besides his stepmother after she left, that they seemed to not even consider another theory.” (*Editor’s Note*- parts of the source’s quote have been redacted as they would reveal identity of witnesses in an ongoing criminal investigation)
Electric Slide?
Sometime after Terri Horman left the school with her daughter Kiara in tow, she was captured on store video prior to Kyron’s exit from Skyline School. It is believed Kyron was last seen between 9:05 and 9:20 AM.
The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.
“…He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck. I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response. They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again.
Classroom 1 Property of www.blinkoncrime.com
(Editor’s Note: It is believed that Desiree and Kaine’s comments about concern that instruction they gave him last year about listening to staff “came back to haunt them.” They have never acknowledged they were told about this witness account but a source close to www.blinkoncrime.com has confirmed they were informed but not given a witness description.
www.blinkoncrime.com has confirmed the EXIF data on the image includes the timestamp of June 4 2010 at 8:43AM PST.
Backstory OR Backdrop?
Among the peers of Kyron Horman in attendance on June 4th, were some children whose parents may have been granted access via the open house format, although documents filed with the school and LE would preclude the parents from removing them.
In fact, the mother of a chief witness in this case was arrested that very day for attempting to fill a script that did not belong to her, in a pharmacy that Terri Horman allegedly also visited that morning.
Another child whose parents lost custody due to very long histories with substance abuse and associated criminal behavior had the additional possible misfortune of closely resembling both Kaine and Terri Horman.
Non Custodial Parent Red Long Hair
It is unknown whether either parent took the opportunity to visit the school that day, but they were not included on the published list. While barred legally from removing their child from the school they could not be barred from a publicly announced invitational. There was no ID checks or sign-in sheets for non-volunteer guests.
In an unrelated twist, the child’s Father was found deceased in front of a Portland residence in April 2012. The name of the child and Kyron’s schoolmate, guardians and parents are being intentionally withheld for this article.
Sovereignty In lieu Of..
Among the many unanswered questions in Kyron’s disappearance: Why hasn’t the school been held accountable? He disappeared on their watch- with a concise standard of care duty and plan.
What really happened?
There is no dispute that Kyron had an exchange that resulted in a teacher nodding her approval that Kyron assist a man in his stated purpose- to bring things in from his truck. There is no dispute that Kyron was last seen at Skyline School. There is no dispute that both Kyron’s parents expressed concern that last year’s discipline involving instruction on being a better listener may have come back to haunt them. They said so.
What may be in dispute, for sure, is how accurate the list of attendees at the Skyline School of June 4th, 2010 is.
As an example, one witness told Editor In Chief, S. Christina Stoy that a young male former student said hello to Susan Hall and when asked by a parent who the lad was a few days later, she said she was not sure. He is NOT on the list.
When another parent subsequently asked Ms. Hall who the student was following Kyron’s disappearance to verify he was on the published list- she responded she could not remember. Ms. Hall was the Skyline Administrative staff who contacted 911 upon speaking to Terri Horman and learning Kyron was not on the bus. Hall subsequently contacted Desiree Young. She did this while the Horman’s were on their way back to the school to see if Kyron might have thought he was being picked up that day as opposed to riding the bus or some other sort of snafu.
According to the MCSO, the school records that could assist the investigation were never requested to be preserved by investigators and as a result were deleted.
So why was the Skyline School never named as a defendant in the previously pending litigation filed by Kyron’s mother Desiree Young?
The reason may lie in the recreational designation utilized on June 4th, 2010.
According to the National Policy and Legal Analysis Network (napl) it may be a simple question of whether Kyron disappeared during the “recreational” portion of the program.
Napl’s guidance to lawyer’s advising Oregon schools can be read here. Although the overall plan is relative to an obesity initiative, it would include research and advice on any school recreational or regularly scheduled event. Please tell me Cogen does not factor into this.
The following are excerpts from the report:
…”Absent special liability protection, school districts and other providers of recreational facilities have the legal duty to take reasonable precautions to prevent injury. What is reasonable is very context specific and depends on many things: most important, the nature of the harm, the difficulty of preventing it, and generally accepted standards in the management of recreational facilities…”
…” The only immunity Oregon grants to public bodies, which include school districts,2 is discretionary government immunity.3 Discretionary government immunity applies to choices “among alternative public policies by persons to whom responsibility for such policies have been delegated.”4 To fall under the protection of this doctrine, Oregon courts have said, the choice must result from the exercise of judgment and involve a public policy or nonroutine day-to-day activity.
…” In summary, Oregon immunizes schools for policy choices its officials make, but it holds schools liable for breaches of duty that occur in carrying out those policy choices…”
…” The recreational user statute should therefore provide strong protection to Oregon schools seeking to avoid liability arising from after-hours outdoor recreational programs on school grounds. Applying this statute to indoor recreational activities, however, is much riskier, although the case law does not preclude such a strategy.
Regular School Day- Changes Things
…” In Oregon, schools owe students a duty to “supervise at all times the conduct of children on school grounds and to enforce those rules and regulations necessary to their protection. . . . The standard of care imposed upon school personnel in carrying out the duty to supervise the conduct of students is that degree of care which a person of ordinary prudence, charged with comparable duties, would exercise under the same circumstances.”37
Is the issue of liability to Skyline School relegated to what time Kyron was abducted, presuming he was abducted, as is believed?
Very possibly.
As we know, the school opened early the morning of June 4th, 2010, as was displayed on the school’s marquis at least 2 weeks prior. Without particular knowledge of when the suspect responsible for Kyron’s disappearance entered the school, and under what auspice, one is left to the timeline of Kyron’s activities as juxtaposed with the start of the school day. As a regular standard of care, one could argue that begins with a student getting on the bus, if a passenger, on their regular route. What if a bus passenger is attending the “event” outside of the bus transportation? Admittedly, it seems moot inasmuch as neither one of Kyron’s parents have filed suit against the school or named them as having any negligence or liability. That said, it remains a possibility in the event Kyron is found.
There is no question Kyron was seen after 8:45AM- which is the time that a regularly scheduled bus arrives- which would ring the bell, so to speak, on the normal school day.
To be Continued:
Roid Noise And The Boys In Blue- Publishing Thursday August 8. Preview Discussion Tonight on THE DANA PRETZER SHOW.
Ellie Sanders contributed research to this report.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
Image retouching courtesy of Klaasend
Previous Coverage:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/01/30/fugitive-cop-shooter-david-durhams-house-located-in-new-kyron-horman-search-grid/
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All – This has me in an all out funk. I’m not sure I can read the next piece… but for Ky, I will – and will continue to advocate for him. Thanks Ms. B for giving this sweet little man a voice.
I surely hope that those who failed him that day and the days after are feeling very uncomfortable and are examining their consciences. Someone needs to do the right thing and start over, even if it is unlikely to yield results.
Thanks for this report Blink! A game changer to be sure!
I was shocked that a teacher gave the nod to SZ, giving him
permission to take Kyron out of the building. Even more shocked
that the bios were informed of that action.
The ‘after shocks’ included, but were not limited to, LE failing
to produce a sketch of SZ despite the fact that he resembled
some other men attending the SF.
The Melon heist proves interesting on so many levels. The stolen
melons were from Thomson, located in Bakersfield, Cali. A suspect in
the Melon heist had worked for the trucking company that transported
the Melons and had knowledge of the routes taken to deliver same.
Too many connections on this to list.
Then there is the steroid connection. WOW.
Was this case was spun to assure that the bad guys got away? Hivemind brain***k?
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2013/06/former_steroid_supplier_now_ac.html
@Blink, re podcast. O’Donnell was a Detective on County’s Child Abuse Unit for 5 years preceding Kyron’s case. It was Herron who was river patrol, search & rescue co-coordinator, & ATV trainor. O’Donnell was joined on the case by fulltime Moawad who’d been recently assigned to CAU ada after having been on Cold Case Unit (& losing a major trial badly). Woods ada pulling significant overtime had been on CAU 20 yrs & was its ada head.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/11/27/kyron-horman-missing-civil-suit-against-terri-horman-delayed-and-sealed/comment-page-42/
” Rose says:
March 24, 2013 at 12:08 am
speculation. In 2009 Moawad was the DDA on the Homicide Cold Case Unit. She lost a high profile cold case.
She won an animal cruelty high profile case. She was assigned to the Child Abuse Unit O’Donnell had been on 5 years. At least recently she’s drafting affidavits for this case for DA. How did O’Donnell get moved from the Child Abuse Unit to Kyron ‘s case in June 2010? Maybe Moawad was the DDA assigned & having begun to work with him in the CAU requested him and/or vice versa. It’s interesting Lt Walls who was in charge of the Cold Case team is side by side with Staton on Kyron in Oct 2010. Apparently Sgt Krafve was made a Supv by 9/15/10 (the Task Force). Is O’Donnell still the full-time Detective grade investigator? Is Krafve (now head CCUnit) still the Sgt Detective? Did Desiree’s tough period coincide with the Task Force disbanding in 7/11?
If Moawad was the DDA assigned in 6/10, and she recruited O’Donnell as mcso lead from that Unit, why the heck was the Child Abuse Unit DDA & Detec involved early on?
Rose says:
March 24, 2013 at 12:13 am
If or (speculatively) since CAU team members took the lead initially in the person of O’Donnell & perhaps Moawad, can we infer that MCSO’s team was always looking at the family first … to identify an “abuser,” and the fall Task Force formation was an attempt to rectify that?”
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If SZ preplanned, bet he made a point of Mathews casually see him near door coming or going before.
Thanks for the clarification Rose- I do have O’Donnell’s credits on the “sex offender” presentation. Which in and of itself did not cover this type of profile.
Maybe on SZ, but I would not count on it. He prepares to avoid detection, but he does not ever believe anyone is smart enough to catch him.
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Imo the situation is much worse than an allegedly rogue inept detective in the persona of O’Donnell arranging a failed sting.
This was institutional error by two institutions, MCSO & DA, with the latter likely calling the shots as to personnel.MCSO personnel assigned were those who worked with certain DA Units. Imo, O’Donnell was assigned bcz he’d been on the CAU 5 yrs with Sr ADA Woods it’s Chief (Meisenheimer its former Chief) , and Moawad the ADA line lead was on CAU. Lt Walls (fall Task Force Lt) was on DA Cold Case Unit with Underhill whom I suspect took over from Woods in that Fall. If there’s need of institutional coverup, the chief sinner is DA leadership & O’Donnell was its Detective tool.
I believe that many people are under the impression that the only way Ky, or another child, would leave with a stranger is unwillingly and only if taken by force. That the family believes this is evident in early statements that he would never go with a stranger, implying (or stating?) that this is due to his shy temperament. The recent Florida case of Charish Perriwinkle is a perfect example of this wrong thinking: the perp befriended the family at Wal-Mart, took the girl away from her family to the front of the store for a snack (everyone’s cooperative at this point) and just kept walking. Because the population believes that Ky would not go with s stranger, they assume / have to believe that SZ was known to TH and thus Ky.
Picture this: a man who looks like all the other dads in dress and appearance, or other “former students,” slides up to a boy and begins talking about the cool projects, they exchange names, make small talk. The man says that he has some stuff in the car and would the boy be willing to help him … creating a feeling that the boy is being honored by being asked. The boy, now excited at the chance to do something special asks a teacher for permission. The teacher looks at the eager boy and the man, who looks like the dad of one of the students in general or is maybe even confused with a particular dad, and grants permission. Her guard is down due to the nature of the event and the community feeling of everyone there. Even the witnesses are not on guard. I am not excusing the teacher or blaming the witness. I am simply saying that nobody recognized the situation because it seemed so normal, and I believe this is one reason that Blink says SZ is a sophisticated offender.
See chart. Rees Chief Div 1. Woods Chief Div 2.
http://mcda.us/index.php/about-the-da/departments/
Kyron was imo initially under Div 2 (Woods in charge, working with Moawad from CAU & O’Donnell from CAU).
Then case was moved to Div 1 Rees. (with “Task Force”?)
Imo, Supervising both Divs, & conducting grand jury, was their Supvervisor, Underhill.
Woods Div 2 has: “Domestic Violence Unit (crimes in the home, crimes against non-family children,victim assistance)”
Please note that new Family Court judge appointed last Jan, who is otherwise undistinguished politically & financially for the connections an appointment usually has, headed this Domestic Violence ADA subunit & undoubtedly worked on Kyron’s case. If she ever serves a role from the Bench, the coverup will have come full circle from the initial judge (former ada in charge if CAU) assigned.
BEF (Bonneville Environmental Foundation) is the Bonneville Power Co’s arm which is the parent of Solar4Schools & sends the initial consultant out to the school.
See one team member Craig Collins now head of Solar4Schools. BEF utilizes electricians.
http://www.b-e-f.org/why-bef/meet-our-team/
This org works in several States. All States related to BEF should be screened by FBI back to BEF inception date for missing 5-8 yos.
BEF from time to time undoubtedly hired local non-employee “consultants.”
Imo Skyline was not a random choice due to a billboard ad.
Why didn’t LE show phots of all BEF, S4S, & contractor employees to witnesses?
@Ode. I ran them all at one time & imo “no.”
no link though;
just looking them up 1 by 1.
but as Blink points out, the List is incomplete.
SZ had a door to slip out; SZ slipped in timely.
What perp is gonna say, “You missed my name.”?
offered for: how easy it is to find lookalikes in a single setting–say Collins & Diesner.
http://solaroregon.org/solar-now/2012-speakers
So many miscues from the beginning, planned coverup (school) or just bumbling along (le)??? My own grandson is a second grader, small for his age, and has a dear soul. I shudder with fear that all of these adults let this little boy go with a stranger for even a moment let alone out of direct eye sight. I am outraged. For those that live near Skyline, are there school board meetings packed with parents who want to know if there child is safe?
@Gigi. The door guaranteed to safe SZ egress was an emergency exit.
Never locked from inside. An indicia of pre-visit.
I am on Blink’s page; Kyron wax vulnerable in Matthews room as he had no parent present.
More relevant than shyness, or told previously to “obey” at school.
The misplaced, & unreasonable, guilt these bios must have felt. But it
was their school pattern of several years & did SZ know that?
Does anyone remember if there was any sort of handout for attendees with a map of exhibits, activities, refreshment area?
I have the flyer that went home to students, and it was an open invitation to family and friends. It was at least 2 weeks prior to June 4th.
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@Albalass. TY. I saw that site once maybe 5 weeks ago when it was linked here & wide open. Shortly after I saw it, one had to sign into FB to view. (I can’t remember my password & would rather die first on principle). My memory of that one review was Desiree posted the name of Mark Herron as leading her prior search & seemed close to him. She directed teaders to him. If a search is organized in August, imo she is not so off the rails as to not have gotten the recommended Search coordinates from him, and imo he & mcso will be search partners if not co -leaders.
That “search news” on ATH-FB was merely regurgitating the gofundme announcement with, it sounds like, an Oakes reaction to same.
I see the lawsuits (Kaine’s former 2) and search /lawsuits (Desirees multiplicity) as Borderline’s circuses but who the Borderlines are idk—POI (not likely as she is powerless as to ringmaster role of suits, searches, & media stunts), , 1 or both bios or their Influencers; someone in LE? simeone w/DA? Atty? Groupie leaders? idk.
I bet SZ wishes he’d chosen a child of a quieter, less disturbed, lot.
I dunno Rose I might disagree that SZ is not thrilled to have his work spinning everyone away from him. I often wonder if he has or would utilize some ego-driven maneuver for his own gratification if LE would even know what it was. Like say for instances, something to do with Kyron’s glasses. Which, by the way, could also be a factor- Ky was only one of 2 kids in the room with glasses on.
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o/t missed you!
XOXOXOXOX!!!
And I you
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@Blink. I have never been to a Sci Fair in eled/middle (4 publics & 1 exclusive private)
where Sci Fair had refreshments or a printed guide.
Well, Blink, that profiling makes sense.
Going to pack my kid out of camp in a bit.
Catch up late tonite.
chefjaredagcc says:
August 9, 2013 at 1:21 am
I know sz is very sophisticated in his actions. Is it possible that he picked Kyron because of his family situation? Seems like a lucky draw, for sz, to pick a random child and have all the pressure put on a parent for so long. Had it been another child abducted, do you believe we would have heard about this much sooner, based on ghe lack of a TMH suspect?
I have to believe that he had no knowledge that Kyron would not be missed immediately and that an amber alert would not ensue.
I believe that the abductor planned an abduction of a child that day, but I could not say with certainty Ky was the intended target when he so very closely resembled other boys, but Ky did not appear to know him. If it makes sense, it appears to me to be a planned random- thus my SZ profile.
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Thank you for the new piece, Blink, and for tenaciously staying with this case. I appreciate your timing of the article and hope it helps to clear a path toward Kyron. I am heartbroken that this little boy was so clearly let down by the school staff that day. How Desiree and Kaine show no frustration with the school is beyond me.
It is entirely possible that SZ knew who Kyron was by the CSI shirt he was wearing, possibly having been given this information by someone close to Kyron who was enabling the abduction.
According to a child witness Kyron stated he was going to look at the ‘cool electric’ exhibit. Looking at the photo from your article it appears there is indeed an electric exhibit with lots of interest from the children.
Blink, do you know if Kyron was matched up with a chaperone and touring the exhibits in a group?
Not when he went missing, to my knowledge he went to the electrical display room on his own. I cant determine if the groups were made up and a head count was taken once they were in the classroom ( my belief) or not.
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Why didn’t LE show phots of all BEF, S4S, & contractor employees to witnesses?
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Rose..I believe that Terri won an award of some type from BEF.
Honors and Awards:
Award for Job Excellence from Bonneville Power Plant while taking on an assignment to create a state standard curriculum guide example for K-2 students.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/terrihorman
Good Catch Ode, but I am thinking she is missing a MS degree credential on there- although I have not looked at my old archives for comparison.
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albaLass says:
August 9, 2013 at 5:09 am
this comment just appeared on the Anti Terri Horman FB page -
“Interesting development broadcasted on the news tonight 08-08-2013 regarding the
Kyron Horman Case.
08-08-2013.
The news announced tonight that Desiree Young, (Kyron’s birth mother), is going to launch her own PRIVATE Search using volunteers, search dogs, to search specific areas to try to recover
Kyron’s remains.
This means that Desiree has met with the Sheriff’s office and or DA’s office and probably received new information based on the recent grand jury testimony of DeDe Spicer’s testimony against her partner Terri Horman (Kyron’s stepmother).
This also means that Desiree now acknowledges that Kyron is dead.
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IMO
Would anyone actually believe that if Dede told LE where Kyron’s remains were that LE would allow Desiree with a bunch of posters from ATHP to trample over the possible evidence that could be there?
With all of the hatred of TH and crazy postings that go on at that site I don’t think anything found by those people would in any way be able to be considered as evidence of anything.
Sorry Rose I thought you said why “did” they show. Ignore my post, sort of.
3 years later and they still can not say
a. Kyron was the target
b. Kyron’s type was the target
c. Kyron was the mistaken target.
He could be anyone of these as Blink has shown. I get it. It took me awhile but I get it. I always sort of knew this but was still focused mostly on a. Today I want to hurl.
I keep getting hung up on something.
Terri said that class was about to start so she said goodbye to Kyron in the hall and watched him walk toward his room. I don’t have the link but I believe she also stated that Kyron said “I have to go to my classroom now” or something like that before she left him.
The question that hangs me up is, WHEN did Kyron decide to go see the “cool electric one.” Did he decide the minute Terri left him to run down to see it quickly, before class started? Was he in his small group when he passed Tanner saying he was going down to see the electric one? Or did someone stop him in the hall and tell him he should go see it, so he made a last minute decision to run down there?
Did SZ (posing as a parent) at some point during the fair tell Kyron to make sure he saw the electric one, and then went down to wait for him? Was there two people inside the school working together, one telling him to go see it, the other waiting for him? Or was Kyron with his small group, just going along doing what he was told when SZ randomly selected him from the group?
I think we need to know why/when Kyron went downstairs. We need to know if he was with his small group. The way Tanner’s story reads to me is that the “sub / volunteer” noticed that Kyron was missing AFTER they returned from their small group tours. It seems this way because Tanner said that she calmed down….. and left, after Porter told her he was probably in the bathroom.
The answer is in the mix, piecing this timeline together shouldn’t be difficult for LE should it?
albaLass- to clarify- this is not your words, this is something that appeared in it’s entirety on what of the hater havens?
@Blink… absolutely. apart from my question at he end. sorry for the confusion.
@Rose… to be honest I couldn’t stop myself from looking at the FB page because I knew Blinks new article would have given them all a blue fit! …and it did..
Understood, and thanks. I would seriously question the motivations of anyone who was not open the truths of this case, no matter where it leads and to whom. But I have seen more originally thought to be well intended people get caught up in the “I am right” syndrome in every case. It is quite literally that mentality, imo, that has this case status where it is.
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T. Ruth
I don’t know what equipment you are running to make a real fix for your PDF files. If your PDF reader is up-to-date and foxfire is also. There is something else causing the load and read problem. I use firefox, Internet Explorer and Google Chrome with no problem.
To help some with a compass orientation on this case and any others, the following terms relate to breaking it into thirty degree segments:
The degrees begin at zero and move around the compass in a clockwise direction. Thus North is at zero degrees; NNE from 0 to 30 degrees; NE from 30 to 60 degrees; ENE from 60 degrees to 90 degrees; all the other segments follow the same pattern.
Based on the PDF plot plan orientation referenced, the main front entrance is actually SSW and is in the 30 degree quadrant closest to South. This may be the reason that there are more than one description use by witnesses.
@Gigi
Ditto. Doors wide open. Sides and back of school not only unmonitored but partially or completed out of view of staff and students once the bell rang. Moms there till 8:45. Most parents gone by the time the regular bell rang, unless helping out. IMO. Helpers …. did everyone know who these helpers were and the “chaperone list” was monitored? Remember TMH ‘heard’ that Kyron was seen with a chaperone that was male, and two girls. Could two “girls” be waiting at the door to help the man usher Kyron out?
Blink …. any info on whether the SZ could have had, legally or no, a handicapped parking pass?
To my knowledge, he did not. Did TMH say Ky was seen with that guy (plaid shirt) or that he was seen and not on the chaperone list?
The volunteer list ( which would have been the source of the chaperone list) was requested and denied. The volunteer lists were then kept filed from that time on. It should be noted that the volunteer sign in was always in the basement area.
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I’ve never seen an SZ referred, before. I must have missed this along the way. I googled it, hoping to find an answer.
Is SZ an unknown perp (subject zero), or an actual individual? I understand the need to keep this on the low, for privacy and security reasons.
TIA…and hope everyone is enjoying the remainder of their summer!
In this case he is both Ragdoll, nice to see you!
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@Rose…
Your find of Kyle Diesner is spot-on IMO. Almost a dead ringer…
http://www.b-e-f.org/why-bef/meet-our-team/
Ironically or otherwise, the TR for b-e-f.org & the pinnacle-exhibits.com have some telling commonalities. (ownership wise)
In addition, went to his FB page and on the right side – a list of links came up.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/395887530453010/
Sampling:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2227363758/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/395887530453010/
https://www.facebook.com/findgroups?group_id=395887530453010https://www.facebook.com/groups/395887530453010/
http://www.CubMeat.com ^^^
From the various names on the “groups” page, I have to wonder is we would find Spinks somewhere in the mix?
I got it! Had I given it just a tad more effort, I wouldn’t have had to ask. However, for anyone who needs confirmation (a bit clueless like myself…and I mean that in an endearing way)….
-snipped
erose says:
November 29, 2012 at 2:25 am
SZ = Subject Zero (coined in the movie Mass Effect)
FOIA = Freedom of Information Act
GAL = Guardian Ad Litem
http://tinyurl.com/knxx3j7
(the source is a cache from one of Blink’s threads)
Excellent, one correction- Suspect Zero is actually an investigative profiling term we use, it is different than unsub (unknown subject) but coined in the film of the same name, starring ben Kingsley. I recommend it often. It is a brute to watch, but factually on par.
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Thank you for the hello, friendLY. Great to see you, too! xo
One of the reasons I asked whether or not the man asked Kyron directly to help him or if he asked Ms. Mathews, is I wanted to know if he seemed to know Ms. Mathews. Not personally, but whether or not, with all the other parents (maybe another teacher) in the same room, if he asked her personally or looked at her when asking, then one thing he knew was that she was in charge. If he was not familiar with that school, how would he know? This person seemed to know where the doors are, where to park, where he would and would not be seen at the time.
This dude is definitely, IMO, not some random guy walking into this school for the first time. He knows this school one way or another.
emergency fire exits can never be locked. they would require attendents from the school to make sure no one abducting a child would use them as an easy exit, but locking them when the building is occupied is illegl. lots of garment workers in places like india wish they had had the same law when they perished in a fire and the exits were locked.
i would make comment on unproffessional angry mr oakes without in any way supporting him if possible. smonkey research found that he recovered the bodies of two children that had been abducted, long after le had given up on the famous search. le had searched the same areas several times with their dogs to no avail. this makes me wonder if he was as angry and unproffessional before running into the brick wall that msco became. just my wonderings.
with sz profile, blink, do you think sz would have immedietly fled, or anticipating an amber alert maybe stayed in area for awhile? with comment about gratifying his ego ie glasses, is there even a remote possibility that he may have left kyrons body at their residence, if still in the area and watching the news coverage immedietly going to suspiscion of terri? moo is that it is extremely unlikely, that would take a huge amount of ego and bravado.
one thing that really really bothers me is that staff and students werent interviewed until sunday, and then only 90% done that evening. le may not have even gone through those interviews questionairs for days then. its my opinion that msco immedietly counted this a lost child, walked away, then turned to suspect tmh, then after (perhaps when fbi showed up), days later had the news from talking to ms mathews, and others. they had already been on record perhaps 3 times saying it was a very low likelyhood of sz, and showing so much interest in tmh wherabouts had essentely convinced public it was isolated incedent, that they didnt want to turn back now, and therefore dismissed sz theory or intentionall withheld info from the public. jmo
@Blink. TMH did not reference Mr Plaid Shirt. Her comment was as vw said”
“TMH ‘heard’ that Kyron was seen with a chaperone that was male, and two girls”
and she said there were no male chaperones that day.
@albaLass. If one didn’t have to sign in, I’d look too. Some paralegal has to have been tasked with screenshots for the next tort suit which I hope will lure Wagner back into it someday–to peel some onions. And to demonstrate why
TMH can’t work in her profession in the divorce.
@venetia. I am in a very primitive NY environment with connectivity only when close to VT–but I don’t see those staff pics on the bef page anymore??? only the bios. either my connectivity, or eerie.
To be honest, I meant I thought the 2 employees favored each other as well as a similar
look to Kaine of mid2010. meaning I can see why witnesses could say SZ was definitively not Kaine,
but he sure looked like a whole lot of other men of a similar age & size.
ok, I discovered google must have thrown me a 3 year old website page with pics of Collins & Dieners and all the other employees. The current staff pg has no pics (wonder why bef dropped them?) and Dieners is rightly deleted as he left in late 2009 or early 2010 to work for Portland City. The BEF employees consulting on site (and in class teaching sessions were a part of any Solar4Schools project) were Sean and/or Collins and/or Dieners in the year 2009. Terri ought to know which BEF employee went to classrooms if she was stimulated to write a model for the org classroom materials.
I appreciate your update–and chutzpah—Blink! Thanks for posting the first new info in YEARS! Still trying to wrap my head around it. Other “mental gravel” that I keep concurrently pondering: the guy seeing the truck at the end of the road/his driveway, Mustang on SI, the report of the truck w child in it (Logie Trail area?).
Still so sad for this little guy.
TY Kat
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Blink said
‘To my knowledge, he did not. Did TMH say Ky was seen with that guy (plaid shirt) or that he was seen and not on the chaperone list?
The volunteer list ( which would have been the source of the chaperone list) was requested and denied. The volunteer lists were then kept filed from that time on. It should be noted that the volunteer sign in was always in the basement area.”
Rose is right. “He was seen..” …were her words, IIRC. Plaid shirt guy was speculated on by many, WW included (not their best article on the story, IMO). Prolly a parent.
Who requested the volunteer list? TMH said she had seen it. IMO she met up with Ms Porter at the school. Was told by her as who else would, that she had heard something about it. Cannot imagine that TMH did not demand to talk to Porter immediately.
Rose….did you say K-1 was in the basement? I didn’t see any doors to the outside from the basement. I assumed the upper grades would go up the main stairs (main door) and then go out the main entrance or continue up to the main floor for exits out the gym, west side (2) or main exit in the middle of the Kyron’s hallway out the handicapped ramp and to the B-ball courts.
What am I missing here:
vwoolfrevisitsthenorthwest.blog
VW: Porter was no longer at the school when Kyron was discovered missing.
I posted links to the maps of the doors and classrooms. K-1 is not in the basement. CR109 is the room Kyron left with SZ.
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My Bad…keep forgetting to just copy and paste:
http://vwoolfexploresthenorthwest.blogspot.com/
Just looked again. How would SZ get out if on the lower level.
I’m thinking …. shouldn’t do that. LOL….What IF… sz was in parking lot watching. Watching for mom with kid and baby. Watches TMH’s and Kyron’s interactions, walks into school (with girls or sans anyone), watches interactions for awhile and even maybe makes himself known to Kyron while mom is busy for a moment. Goes back outside, sizes up vehicle for whatever reason, waits in car till mom leaves. Moves his car to back of school … goes in middle door…, maybe even parks in the white cemented spot that the SpEd bus uses?
I remember Carol and other saying that Kyron was too TIMID to go outside by himself…but was being taught to go follow the directions from adults. But…how could SZ know this?
bing map images of outside back lot of school, doors/exits:
view #1
http://binged.it/137YujW
view #2
http://binged.it/1cBrR1t
In the second image you can see the flowerboxes outside of CR109 and CR110- at around 8:40AM, the kids with that study project (younger than Kyron) released butterflies.
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Administration And Office Staff (2008-2009)
Principal – Mr. Ben Keefer
Principal’s Secretary – Mrs. Susan Hall
Classroom Teachers
K/1 Team
104 – K/1 – Mr. Scott McBeth
109 – K/1 – Ms. Easter Mathews
110 – K/1 – Mrs. Linda Cole
2/3 Team
215 – 2/3 – Mrs. Karen Hanson
213 – 2/3 – Ms. Kristina Porter
217 – 2/3 – Mrs. Melissa Ritter
4/5 Team
209 4/5 – Ms. Jessica Bostick
207 4/5 – Mrs. Vivian Colvin
211 4/5 – Mrs. Jill Koning
6/7/8 Team
103 – 6/7/8 – Mr. Brian Garde – Language Arts/Social Studies
106 – 6/7/8 – Mrs. Katrina Frischmann – Math/Science
201 – 6/7/8 – Mr. Paul Mastin -Math/Language Arts
Specialists
Library – Library/Technology – Mrs. Skach
101B – Music – TBA
Gym – PE – Mrs. Joanne Romanaggi
203 – Spanish – TBA
203 – Counselor – Ms. Stephanie Cox
Custodial Staff
Head Custodian – Kenny Moylan
Evening Custodian – Vickie Ibarra
Nutrition Services Staff
Cafeteria Manager – Mrs. Diane Jones
Special Education Staff
Resource Teacher – Mr. Lou Terrones
Speech/Language Pathologist – Ms. Amy Kasch
School Psychologist – Ms. Nancy Yates
Occupational Therapist – Mr. Mark Valeske
Para-educator – Mrs. Alayna Pettingill
Para-educator – Mrs. Tersea Gonzales
Para-educator – Mr. Robert Salvia
Para-educator – Mrs. Deborah Meskimen
Source:
Page 17 (PDF Page 18)
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/sunnyside/files/school-sunnyside/Parent_Handbook_2008-Final.pdf
Also,
Page 17 (PDF Page 18)
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/files/mskach/Parentand_StudentHandbook_2010-11.pdf
Can’t remember if we ever found 2009-2010
It is my understanding that Porter WAS in fact at school which is where the statement came from of “Thought Kyron left for Kiara’s appointmen”.
Not following?
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I found this story fascinating and wanted to recommend it. There are many points that made me feel I could just plug them right into our discussion of problems with investigations and legal questions. So many agencies, so much attention, and still nothing, however, for over 50 years some people never gave up wanting justice for this 8 year old girl.
I am reminded that we shouldn’t become overconfident with our “new and improved” technology – it’s still the people handling a case that seem to matter most to its outcome since they make the decisions about how that technology is used and what other work is done. And they make the mistakes.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/08/us/oldest-cold-case/index.html
I was familiar with Maria’s case. She was actually 7, just like Kyron. Brilliant and engaging piece MBS, thank you for recommending.
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@Blink. Matthews taught K-1 that year.
So she just happened to be touring in CR 109 and it was not her classroom?
Looked like a young age classroom by table ht & decor,
Given the 9:05 – 9:20 time frame, I think that Kyron could have made it to his room and been assigned to a group. The groups would have formed some time after regular school started at the final bell. I don’t think he wandered by himself for 20 – 45 minutes. All those kids were trained to go to class when the bells rang.
Also, if volunteer/chaperone was looking for him after everyone returned to class, then he must have been assigned to some one to begin with. Knowing what I know now, the doctor’s appt. was a later though up excuse to explain how a child was lost and never missed all damn day long. JMO.
What conversation went on and between whom before SZ asked Ms. Matthews if Kyron could help him? Did Kyron say anything? Could he have told Ms. Matthews beforehand that this man was a friend of the family or that he knew him?
Didn’t we wonder at one time if any adults who entertain young children with science demos might have been present working? And I would expect solar4schools to have a demo. Anyone with a demo coukd’ve asked for carryin help.
And gone on with his morning presentations, either leaving Kyron in truck or another carried him off. All the man would have to say is I thought he went back to his classroom after he helped me out.
@Rose,
Your look-alike is here:
http://solaroregon.org/solar-now/2012-speakers
Kyle Diesner
Is that a NW trend? The shaved head and facial hair thing? lol
On another subject…
RE: CR 109 the room where SZ removed Kyron:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9068.915;wap2
Excerpt:
FYI – I have been told with certainty that the PLANTERS/FLOWER BOXES that Dave Stensen saw the kids looking at was outside of classrooms 109 and 110.
This is what I was told:
Students raised insects as part of a study unit. Around 8:40 some were released into the flower boxes in front of CR109/CR110.
end excerpt
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@Blink
My question is, if Kyron was taken out the door by CR109 and DS stated that he spotted the kids just outside that classroom, do you think that DS may have also witnessed SZ in that vicinity? If SZ parked a truck on that road/path that lead to the soccer field, would he then have blocked DS when he went to exit after mowing? Unless SZ was already gone by the time DS was finished mowing?
How long were the kids outside? The time frames seem to overlap – kids releasing insects by CR 109 & SZ taking Kyron out the door by that classroom?
Kids releasing insects: 8:40 approx
Kyron whisked away by SZ: 8:45 or thereabouts?
Ode says:
August 9, 2013 at 9:31 am
Does anyone know if the “Pony Mail” PPS employee is one of the men on the list?
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Yes, there is a Pony Driver on the list.
Blink, at one time you stated that SZ is not on the TF list. Do you still hold that true?
Do you believe that SZ acted alone, or that SZ may have had an accomplice?
Also, I don’t know if it’s okay to even ask this, but do you yourself know the description any of the witnesses gave of SZ? I would like to know if SZ had facial hair, which although general, is something that any witness, even a child would be able to describe.
1. Yes
2. Possible, but no evidence pointing in either direction.
3. Yes, I do. For investigative reasons, at the three year mark, I do not believe a composite is either useful or a good idea. However, as demonstrated in this piece- I am adamant that the very knowledge of the SZ witness accounts needed to be public.
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In 06/10 we had our SF the following week. When I asked my son what he would do if someone asked for his help he answered that no one goes outside or opens the doors for anyone, not even for their parents. Also, they are to go and tell a teacher immediately. Our school has a plan, all parents and students know what is expected at/before the start of the new school year. Skyline was in it’s final days for the year. There is no excuse or rationalization for this, the school was wrong.