Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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Stacey is off & running with KarWashes4Kyron in targeted towns of Eugene & Klamath Falls–the location where K Davidson offered to find her help. One woukd expect the Edge & Medford. They should donate their gas $ to get there. Summer Searches (for what & where is beside the point) are promised by Desiree. The OSU budget cycle must be entering a cyclical slow phase. Car washes don’t seem like an ineffective search fundraising tool to me. I’d have a Foundation memorial dinner & silent auction…. except DY does not have a Foundation & cannot qualify to run an auction.
The middle school itself is required by IB to have a teacher designated IB coordinator for that school’s program. In ours, the Middle School teacher (for whom it is just an added duty, needn’t be anyone special), also had to travel to the high school to wring the personal project in 9th out of departed middlers, and to one eled in the cluster where kids remained thru 6th.
@VWoolf. Billy Williams is Acting OR USAG.
Seems to have transitioned from Kent as
longtime (5 year?) 1st Asst to him sometime this last winter.
There should be (abem) supervision from DC on the
Kitz & Cylvia thing. Maybe why Marshall was discredited
with the headline “Fatal attraction,” as
imo she would have been a dog with a bone.
Have you seen her husband’s picture & history? Kerin
doesn’t hold a candle.
Gall left Skyline in 2009. He left his job in Beaverton in June 2010, and was working in Colorado in August 2010. As someone who was involved in the IB program I was suggesting he might have interest in the SF, and as a former student teacher would not have seemed out of place attending.
It would be interesting to know when Community Action was notified he would be leaving. I think anyone affiliated with Skyline while Kyron attended is worth looking in to, especially those who left Portland after his disappearance.
I saw a picture of Gall ( sorry don’t know how to link) with his two kids, and it looked wholesome and loving. It did make me wonder if he was the bearded guy with the glasses in the Skyline banner picture of the kids carrying the log.
@MBS, Thank you and I agree. From what I have been reading, the IB program removes some local control of schools primarily wrt the
curriculum diminishing the powers of the school board, IDK, the schools in my area are AP.
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Schools get tentative approval to begin offering an IB-level program, then are subjected to ***rigorous on-site inspections*** to make sure what they’re doing meets international standards.
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2010/04/portlands_international_school.html
This article ran almost two months to the day Kyron disappeared. There seemed to be a push for middle and elementary IB programs during that time, though the earliest high school program I found in the area was in 1997 in Gresham, I think.
I am not trying to start a political debate, but my sense is that this program being “global” a keyword they themselves promote, take both local, state and federal powers from a school. Your thoughts? Experiences?
As the article states, “Rigorous on-site inspections” to me would mean someone from the program present for the SF. This could be someone regional or even global. Anyway, who could accuse an IB credentialed inspector of snatching a child? Now that would be hush hush. Just a thought.
MockingbirdSings says:
March 28, 2015 at 12:47 am
Soren Gall
Community Outreach Coordinator
(pic without kids)
http://www.coloradoabcd.org/about-us/contact/
a case comparison
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jan/30/amanda-knox-exclusive-video-interview-guilty-video
Viseo timed 7:15-11:30 reflects an experience similar to Terri’s interrogations imo.
Pity her husband & Desiree were not like this stand up friend.
What a fantastic comparison. I realize for some it may be difficult to see TH as a very much younger non-maternal version in this scenario- but the bigger picture is almost identical. Save for the fact that in the US MCSO and Frink/Underhill/Rees get to imprison an innocent person outside of the law-
In fairness, there was more evidence to indict Knox- who I firmly believe was innocent , and I say that to demonstrate how ludicrous it is for anyone to be convinced beyond reason TH is complicit in Kyron’s disappearance.
B
By this school year, Skyline had IB Primary and Middle School Programs.
Sept. 2011
From the Principal
We welcome all Skyline parents back to school this Thursday night, September 22nd (NOTE: This year’s start time is 30 minutes earlier than in past years; we will begin promptly at 6:00 p.m. in the Gym.) From 6:00-6:30, I will introduce our fantastic staff; will describe the State of Our School, including academic achievement data, curriculum changes, and new programs; and will introduce key parents and volunteers who keep our programs strong. Kimla Johnson-Koziuk, our IB Coordinator, will share an overview of our IB Primary Years and Middle Years programs.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:uEjE8tCps7oJ:www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/files/mskach/9_19_11.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
You know, we have been calling it the science fair, but the reader board advertised “I.B. Inquiry Expo.” Semantics?
“…. subjected to ***rigorous on-site inspections*** to make sure what they’re doing meets international standards.”
In my County, that’s baloney at the school level. Staff probably visit on a junket to Central Office. tho.
doubtless the IB Corp makes lots of money & pays high salaries and employs a very internationally diverse staff like say the UN. I’m not opposed to it, but it adds no “rigor” in our micro experience. Rigor depends on the teacher not the content. In English, middle & high, it exposes to numerous, often obscure, foreign authors from Africa & Central/So America, fewer from Asia. I made sure mine was in AP Lit not IB so she’d finally get one year of exposure to a few historically important US, British, European literary authors, for vocab if nothing else.
@erose. wrt “mean someone from the program present for the SF. This could be someone regional or even global.”
No. The iB Corp does not have that school-based level of involvement locally. The District’s own Central Office Coord would have to document in however she reports to her District supervisor & the Corp itself that she had visited a sampling of schools & how wonderfully she found IB standards integrated into the curriculum. Visiting Ben & Skyline woukd be a lot more fun than visiting an inner city school. IB has succeeded just because its model fully integrates itself with front line local staff, being carried out by District staff at the local level & offering a salary expertise enhancement opportunity for local teacher coordinators.
I hope Amanda Knox can start living her life this time And all that is really over for her
I never thought she did anything either
Do I remember right. It seemed like Staton keep wanting more money He finally withdrew. The last request
On Kyrons search. They found nothing Had some press releases About we will remember a long time
And know things we don’t want to know. Then really nothing I don’t see why anyone owes 3mill
Some one Blink explain this Does SZ owe. 3 mill I think it was a big loss on the sheriff s part
Loss of money loss of time
Loss of finding Kyron
Blink?
I think the reference was to if someone secreted Kyron intentionally to avoid a custodial situation. That individual could be on the hook for reimbursing the costs of the investigation. Yes, Staton appealed for more funding, was asked if “they were on the right track” and then rescinded the request. In my view, it was clear he did not want that on his books when he had already stumbled over the question “were they on the right track?” However, the budget request was not earmarked for searches. To be honest, i have never seen an accounting of that fund to date.
B
semantics, erose.but they gotta call the SF that if they are in the Program. Each display written accompanying piece will end with a “self reflection” paragraph relating their work to 1 of 3 themes. I happily forget them. Pity Sage can’t produce in other areas, as reflected on Skyline website & test scores.
patricia says:
August 7, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Maybe the group leader AND Ms. Matthews thought it was Kyron’s dad and that is why Ms. Matthews nodded that he could go.
Group leader was unaware.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comments
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I decided to go back and read some stuff from Blink’s 2013 report, since we (or I think most of us here) agree that the school is where the answers lie.
So my first question in regard to Blink’s comment above is:
If Kyron’s assigned chaperone was unaware of the exchange between Matthews/SZ/Kyron, why was that?
Does it mean the chaperone was in this classroom, but not paying attention? Possibly have been distracted intentionally by someone?
Or does it mean the chaperone wasn’t even in the same room as Kyron? If that is the case, why?
Did Kyron leave his assigned group and head off on his own?
Or did the assigned chaperone leave the group in which Kyron was assigned? (Maybe taking a bathroom break, figuring or even informing Ms. Matthews would supervise for a few minutes.)
Or again, was the chaperone possibly intentionally called out of the room by someone else?
Or, lastly did Kyron not even get assigned to a group? (I’m thinking, if TP is not making up stories out-of-school (pun intended), Kyron was assigned.)
How is it the chaperone was unaware of this exchange? I think this is important, don’t you? We’ve never been informed who this person was, the chaperone/group leader. I still think it was an underage individual and that is why. But, the question remains, no matter what age this person was, what happened? Where were you and why? Because if this was a pre-planned attempted kidnapping of Kyron, or any other vulnerable child there that day, then I don’t think it was a coincidence that the chaperone was physically unaware of that exchange. Does this imply more than one perp? IDK
I do not believe at this point anyone was assigned a chaperone. To my knowledge there were no “juvenile” chaperones. There was a younger boy who previously went to the school there that day who said hello to Susan Hall- I do not know if he is on the list. There were parents of their own kids in the room- I am aware of their Id’s.
B
Blink makes a good point about group leaders & other parents present. In an inschool “field trip” like this SF, Porter or her delegee would have divided the kids into groups at the outset with an adult leader, but children in that & other rooms may have had unassigned parents tagging along. I recall tagging along on a museum field trip where I was not assigned a “group,” which was just as well there were some other adults because most kids did not stay with their group but rearranged themselves as they ran into friends while touring.
Well I went back and read Blinks report 2013 and the posts Sure we’re a lot of posters back then who we haven’t
heard from lately
To explain myself. I do not blame LE And the first day they got started searching late in the day so of course there was a lot of overtime And they used copters over head. And other resources I think in the first days they really gave it their best efforts to find Kyron
As time went on things got off track IMO not all LEs fault either
The Internet public and HC had Terri as the one The family had Terri as the one They had to be pressured to investigate her
Then the sting then the RO against her from Kaine All this cost money lots of money to investigate
I just think 3 mill spent if that’s the amount Should not now become a big issue about who is going pay
The money is just another issue to get off track yet again in my opinion
I wish we could hear more about what happen that day with Kyron in that school What was in the truck or car SZ
Needed little Kyron to help bring in. Why not one of the older stronger boys instead If it was all approved that SZ
Needed help Why didn’t Matthews said she could go out and help SZ
Anyway this post can cancel out my last post in waiting Blink Thanks
What has always bothered me is DY saying Kyron saw it all and went along with it. Why wouldn’t he if he thought he had approval to go out with SZ and unload some thing
And why did the sightings say Kyron was in a dirty black or gray truck Not a white truck
Lots of whys ?
Where are they planning on searching with this car wash money Is there still an area that DY fells needs a search
Again I would think this area was searched pretty well but it does keep keep them busy And that’s a good thing
I thought Kaine said kiara saw it all.
I wish they’d coordinate their story lines.
Lots of estranged exes would coordinate through their attorneys anyway to advance an investigation.
That would cost some Dr Phil $ though.
@malty. MCSO did a great job searching & coordinating the search. That is because MCSO has SAR. I bet if someone is lost outside mcso’s unincorporated County turf, that town calls in mcso SAR. If PPD had the jurisdiction as they should that nite, mcso could’ve SARed to its heart’s content while PPD did the detective work. That way there would’ve been 2 irons in the fire 1) search, 2) investigate. With PPD in charge, I doubt if mcso would’ve searched differently or gotten less overtime. My bet is Staton didn’t make that initial jurisdiction decision that Fri nite but an underling did, & imo he came to rue it because of the ongoing budget.
Blink, please feel free to delete if this has already been posted!
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/29/idaho-man-arrested-in-cold-case-murder-of-california-boy/70639244/
Many people may not realize that Boise is one hour away from Portland by air, and between 6 and 8 hours travel by freeway.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pomona-656011-rasmuson-cold.html
It was significant to me that in this article it says, “He was granted conditional release in 2006, according to news report. He bounced around California, Washington, and Oregon before settling in Idaho in 2010
I can understand whoever held the funds asking Staton if he was on the right track
After that first presser every. body starts saying Terri did it. That you could see it was written on her face and on and on yet he was saying she was not a suspect or a person of interest
And that is the place IMO that the investigation went off track
And has never got back on track since.
If this was some reality show made up by some one Or a trick to save custody or get custody then when that can be proven It is time to talk 3 mill Mean time what happened that day in that school should be the focus IMO
No more side tracking. Why did this happen at Skyline And who took Kyron
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/crime/2015/03/29/idaho-man-arrested-in-cold-case-murder-of-california-boy/70639244/
Wonder if he drove theu Portland en route to ID in 2010?
Credit card or gas records?
You think Staton woukd check him out wrt objective records on whereabouts June 4?
I don’t think so.
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Staton hired in 1989.
Last election 2014, started next 4 years this Jan.
He has 2 options since he has 25 yrs in already:
1) resign in 2016 or 17 so his followup can be appointed prior to 2018 campaign year;
2) run in 2018, because in Jan of 2019 he won’t yet be at 30 years. So he could win, serve the next term for 6-9 months til he’s at 30 yrs, then resign so an appointee gets 3 solid years in.
Personally, I hope Staton retires in 2016 to run for that Gresham Commissioner’s seat. That would give Dem County apparatchi a quid pro quo–an appointive Sheriff vacancy they can fill with someone to keep on playing ball with Underhill in exchange for a Commissioner’s seat.
@Rose
Thanks
The people of Mult county have been angry a long time about property taxes years. And other tax increases
This is not a joke to the tax payers there So I think it is risky to talk money spent
They really are taxed compared to Clackamas it is a sensitive sore spot
I agree with your ideas as usual
erose says:
March 28, 2015 at 7:39 pm
(snipped)
@MBS, Thank you and I agree. From what I have been reading, the IB program removes some local control of schools primarily wrt the curriculum diminishing the powers of the school board, IDK, the schools in my area are AP.
I am not trying to start a political debate, but my sense is that this program being “global” a keyword they themselves promote, take both local, state and federal powers from a school. Your thoughts? Experiences?
As the article states, “Rigorous on-site inspections” to me would mean someone from the program present for the SF. This could be someone regional or even global. Anyway, who could accuse an IB credentialed inspector of snatching a child? Now that would be hush hush. Just a thought.
MockingbirdSings says:
March 28, 2015 at 12:47 am
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@erose – I liked AP because anytime you can do college work in high school, you could save time and money, and it’s personally encouraging to see that you can do that level of work – or discouraging if you are placed in AP classes without help and the preparation you need, of course. I had kids who could have done it but refused because they were afraid it might lower their GPA’s (which weren’t weighted). It helped a school’s reputation if they could say they offered AP classes and had a large enrollment in them. My school was more successful with a partnership with the community college across the street which allowed kids to take classes suited for transferring to 4 year colleges after graduation, and mentored/tutored them as needed.
My own impression relating to IB classes in the 1990’s was that educators believed (1) it was a way to “lift” all the students academically, not just those who could take AP classes, (2) it could help students compete to enter a desired university, and (3) it made your school a more desirable choice. The first 2 are obvious. The third was more important because of PPS’s transfer policies – parents could be “searching for” better programs or “running from” poor programs in their neighborhood schools. IMO, Skyline staff/parents thought this big effort would keep the district from closing the school which was so small, and would attract more students to enroll, both for IB and for a route into highly desirable Lincoln which was also small compared to other high schools. IB schools add to a district’s academic reputation also (whether a valid reason or not, Rose).
If an IB inspector were present, I doubt that person would be walking around alone – too much at stake. You want an adult host to accompany the person around the school to immediately explain any issues, should they come up.
Re your thought: “my sense is that this program being “global” a keyword they themselves promote, take both local, state and federal powers from a school” –
IMO, it probably provided some respite from the conflicting powers already swirling around in Oregon. Everybody in the 1990’s thought academic standards and student performance in general needed big improvements. For example, (a) you had PPS desperately trying to improve the academic performance of its students amid criticism from minority parents and others, (b) you had the state legislature adopting common curriculum standards because they didn’t see it happening across districts anytime in the near future and they wanted an improved graduation rate with fewer gaps in academics, and (c) you had a state university level program started by some professors who were creating a set of standards they thought were needed to enter freshmen classes with a good chance to succeed – I worked on this, and it’s still my favorite, ever. It was easy to sell to kids – meet these learning and performance goals and you can feel confident about doing college level work in every subject. Students who could meet these goals would have a doorway into state universities no matter what their backgrounds were. It involved detailed input from educators across the state and was aimed at working backward from college admission all the way down through elementary school in every key academic area. BUT – there wasn’t room for that program and the state legislature’s program, and the politicians won – they had the funds and the incentive to avoid federal intervention of some kind.
Many kids hated the state tests. My first year as test coordinator, kids would bubble designs or 4-letter words on the answer scan sheets. Many felt criticized and put down because that’s the way people talked about WHY this was done, unlike the university approach which was “do this because we WANT you”. I LOVED my students – they had the skills to stand up for themselves.
Sorry for the soap box – bottom line, IB provides a single focus for a school like Skyline and provides a number of benefits, not all of which are academic. It won’t last without well-trained teachers, strong leaders, supportive parents – and a large enough enrollment to suit the district. (Other schools don’t “take kindly” to a school attracting away their students, either.) As a program, though, I haven’t seen anything particularly harmful about it.
As for science fair vs inquiry – my understanding is that the school chose science as their theme. It wasn’t a requirement to use science and they were not an accepted IB school then – just trying to impress IB people with their potential as one. I also think including the youngest kids was a school choice at that point.
Rose says:
March 29, 2015 at 6:32 pm
I thought Kaine said kiara saw it all.
I wish they’d coordinate their story lines.
Lots of estranged exes would coordinate through their attorneys anyway to advance an investigation.
That would cost some Dr Phil $ though.
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@Rose – I searched my notes to see what Kaine said about Kiara and came up with this, which gave me new thoughts. Snipped from my January 2013 post –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0W9TXJhps0&feature=youtu.be
The reporter asks about Kiara and what is meant by saying she is different now. Kaine says it’s obvious to everyone who saw Kiara before and after being without Terri. They go on to say that Terri’s “demeanor” in the household was very negative and that Kiara was feeling Terri’s feelings and acting out.
[Well, if nothing else, it speaks to Kiara’s attachment to Terri. Perhaps if they had changed how they treated Terri, leading to a change in Terri’s “demeanor”, Kiara would also have reflected that change. Given the circumstances, are they saying their own behavior was “positive”? If the source of Kiara’s distress (as they saw it) was relational, then she would have radically changed if living with Terri, without Kaine, as well.]
AND – from my same post –
Also in this interview, they do not say Terri took him from school. They use words like “withholding information” and “impeding”. Desiree says Terri did not show anger or rage, that her actions were more subtle and that she studies people to know what emotion to use (great actress) – Kaine agrees. She also says the investigation has grown way bigger than Terri ever thought it would.
[Now I am reading “she studies people to know what emotion to use (great actress)” in the context of the recent disclosure posted here that she has a hearing disability and wears a hearing aid – and wondering if she always wore it at home, and whether they may have used this fact to talk about or around her, and she knew but didn’t always catch what they were saying. And wondering if Terri was distracted and not giving Kiara as much attention as usual and Kiara was showing her displeasure, as kids normally would do.]
I am seriously not sure any of these people, except Terri, knew anything about children. Including Dr. Phil, IMO.
“She [DY] also says the investigation has grown way bigger than Terri ever thought it would.”
It’s doubtful she and Terri talked about the size of the investigation at any point. It simply sounds spiteful. Try reading the sentence again like this -
Desiree said: “This investigation has grown way bigger than I ever thought it would.”
I’m not sure why – it just occurred to me to try a different point of view.
I do not believe at this point anyone was assigned a chaperone. To my knowledge there were no “juvenile” chaperones. There was a younger boy who previously went to the school there that day who said hello to Susan Hall- I do not know if he is on the list. There were parents of their own kids in the room- I am aware of their Id’s.
B
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If there were no assigned chaperones (aka group leaders), then who told TMH there was and made reference to an existing list of them:
“The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.,” she wrote on June 5, 2010. “I said I was going to look at other exhibits – how do you mess that up? His coat and backpack were still at school. I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. That and it was highly chaotic – had to been 300 people running around – no coordination …”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html
I did not say there were not any- I said there weren’t any assigned yet at that time. We know this because TP notices that Ky is missing as they met back in Porter’s classroom for group assignments. I think it is a safe assumption that TH was ASKED about someone that was not on the list or she was told about him and asked if she knew who it was because they were not on the list- by LE. This man was then tweeted by Sam Adams. To my knowledge, he has never been Id’d.
B
@Sharon says:
March 29, 2015 at 7:58 pm
Thanks for those links. Who knows who else this guy has molested or even killed. And what a place to land, Sand Point, ID and surrounding is full of retired, relocated cops. I wonder what Kenneth Rasmusun did for a living.
Sorry, it’s Rasmuson, not Rasmusun.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-convicted-sex-offender-arrested-20150328-story.html
Here’s more info on him.
@mbs. all great thots with re-reading.
It seems to me from Desiree’s piv “the investigation” equals “search,” & that was never bigger than the furst night, weekend, week. Both the search (& investigation by Sept) diminished, not grew. What grew imo was all anout Desiree, and Kaine, their media life, their notariety (until Court clamped down on Kaine). Imo the statement (I agree DY is speaking for herself, not Terri) speaks to a narcissistic ego, seeing no boundaries between herself & Kyron.
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wrt “…. Kiara was feeling Terri’s feelings and acting out.” Kaine & his “they” (parents?) were very uneducated about children, but iirc he was seeing some simplistic therapist at this point who introduced noncomplex catch words like “new normal.” k would have felt & been troubled by arguments between the 2 parents, she’d seen her big brother have to move out & no doubt missed him, she was approaching the “terrible twos,” she was a naturally lively & curious girl, Terri would have encouraged a reasonabky-risktaking explorer, and now she was in the full control of a control freak who from her pov had just disappeared mother & 2 brothers for being “bad.” Doubtless many other reasons for a behavioral change–like those painful teething periods having passed. Can a 2 yo have Stolkholm syndrome?
1987 article on Rasmuson:
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-05-22/local/me-1275_1_child-molestation
MockingbirdSings says:
March 30, 2015 at 4:08 am
I think that when Kyron stayed with DY and TY that Desiree gave him an earful of how bad of parents she thought Terri and Kaine were which she may have said directly to Kyron or it may have been things he overheard her saying to Tony and others.
As much as Desiree disliked Terri and Kaine I can’t believe she did not communicate her feelings to Kyron even if it was just through gestures and body language. It’s no wonder he was confused. He feared going to Desirees and then after staying there feared going home. I wonder if Kaine or Terri had anything to say about Desiree.
As a child of divorced parents I can say at least in my case children hear it all even when someone is talking to a sympathetic aunt friend or grandmother.
Well, he was in Eugene in 2010, we know that:
http://www.kval.com/communities/whiteaker/194907641.html
From the Eugene Police Department
Eugene Police want residents to be aware of a convicted sex offender who recently moved to our area.
Kenneth Kasten Rasmuson, age 48, has twice been convicted of the sexual assault of juveniles.
In the first incident, which occurred September 1, 1981, in Santa Barbara County, California, Rasmuson was convicted of sodomizing an 11-year-old boy. According to police reports and court documents, the victim was on his way to football practice when Rasmuson lured him into a drainage ditch with a ruse about helping look for a lost dog. Rasmuson was sentenced to prison and then released in 1985.
http://www.kval.com/communities/whiteaker/194907641.html
@MBS
Must be my day to find humor I laughed in this last post I think Durning the stuff about Terri drinking Stumbling
Around Kaine did throw in some thing about what Kiara might have seen but mostly he seem to want people
To see how happy Kiara was with Terri gone Kaine was in a spin to get custody Most of that stuff he had to admit
Later was not as he had claimed. Kaine was pretty worried about Terri getting custody For all the stuff he was saying. He must not have thought she was so bad really
So now Terri sizes up people before she jumps into a conversion good for her We could all try the old pause before you speak rule Some time some place LOL
If this wasn’t such a serious matter about little Kyron There really are some silly stuff said
@Blink
Gotcha. I thought at this time meant as of today. So, at the time of the exchange between Mathews & SZ, the children had not yet been put into groups? Do I have that right?
Yes
B
Looking around, I found this title, but no page for the article any longer:
Police in Eugene have issued a rare public alert to warn residents that a convicted sex offender from Washington state recently moved to the city. Police said 48-year-old Kenneth Rasmuson has twice been convicted of..
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Where in Washington was this creep residing?
I remember this- it is on here somewhere- wasn’t the family outraged, I want to say a victim was a step child or something?
B
http://radaris.com/~Kenneth-Rasmuson/922355916
Oh my. When did he live in Lake Oswego?
Living with his mom? Thordis Thea Rasmuson:
Has worked at Has studied at Related to DOB Phone Address
Sand Point, ID
Minneapolis, MN
Los Angeles, CA
Lake Oswego, OR
View All Jane Rasmuson
Shaun Jennings
Nelson Rasmuson
Christine Rasmuson
Kenneth Rasmuson
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Father’s obit from 2003
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/latimes/obituary.aspx?n=n-arthur-rasmuson&pid=1046201
I think you are missing a Wisconsin tie-in, not sure
B
I recall looking at this creep before too, Blink. I wonder if he was listed as living in WA before he moved to Eugene, but was actually staying with his mother Thordis in Lake Oswego.
That’s what the creep who killed Amber Dubois and Chelsea King in southern Calif. had done, he was a registered SO in one town, but actually living in a different city and living with his mom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Albert_Gardner
Rasmuson has lived in Sandpoint since 2010, but his arrival did not go unnoticed. The Bonner County Daily Bee published a story shortly after he arrived stating that the town was “on edge” and many residents were calling the police chief to voice their concerns.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/mar/28/sandpoint-man-arrested-1981-murder-6-year-old-boy/
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So creep moved to Eugene in September 2010 and then again to Sandpoint. Sounds like he was running from something.
Rasmuson was released from the Atascadero State Mental Hospital in 2007 and was living in Lompoc, Calif., as of 2009, according to the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department. He later relocated to Federal Way, Wash., and Eugene, Ore., before moving to Sandpoint, published news accounts indicate.
http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_2e2081a6-d5c8-11e4-b55f-079765a648af.html
I don’t have time for any more research today, but I hope they look at this dude for all the missing little guys, not just Kyron, but all of them. This SOB POS got around.
And hat’s off to the cold case team who never game up on their little guy!
Convicted sex offenders register to live in Tacoma and Federal Way
By Staff writer
The OlympianAugust 21, 2010
Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/21/1342887/convicted-sex-offenders-register.html#storylink=cpy
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Kenneth K. Rasmuson
Age: 49.
Description: 5 feet 10 and 200 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair.
Where registered to live: 29800 block of Pacific Highway South in Federal Way.
Criminal history: Convicted in 1981 of sexually assaulting an 11-year-old boy and in 1987 of kidnapping and lewd and lascivious acts with a 3-year-old child in California.
For information: Call Federal Way police at 253-835-6722.
Read more here: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/08/21/1342887/convicted-sex-offenders-register.html#storylink=cpy
So he moved to Fed Way in August 2010, where was he before that?
Posted: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 10:00 am
By KEITH KINNAIRD News editor | 26 comments
SANDPOINT — A violent sexual predator who bounced around the Pacific Northwest after being released from a California mental hospital has relocated to Sandpoint.
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Kenneth Kaston Rasmuson lives at 612 South Third Ave., a residence adjacent to Third Street Pier, a city park.
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Lockwood said officers made face-to-face contact with Rasmuson on Saturday to verify his identity and residence address. There have already been reports that Rasmuson has re-offended since moving to Idaho, but Lockwood said those reports are unfounded.
“We’re dealing with him like we would any registered sex offender,” Lockwood added. “If he violates anything in Idaho Code, we will take appropriate action.”
http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_99bd465c-d112-11df-abee-001cc4c03286.html
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(Really? WTF was he doing living right next to a city park? )
also snipped from article:
In 2009, Rasmuson was living in Lompoc, Calif., according to the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department. He later moved to Federal Way, Wash., before relocating to Eugene, Ore., last month, published news reports indicate.
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So, I’m having a hard time finding the Lake Oswego connection.
I thot the Mathews/SZ interaction & departure was 9-9:15? Weren’t the children put in groups at 9?
Didn’t 2 bells ring before 9 to start the school day? If that is true, Kyron was never in a group but just wandered
to the room of his choice rather than reporting in to his room?
To my knowledge they were not in groups at the time Kyron exited vise vi Mathews interaction in the room with the cool electric displays.
Kyron had reported to his room first- hung up jacket and backpack.
So yes, at that time the kids were sort of on their own or with parents.
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” TP notices that Ky is missing as they met back in Porter’s classroom for group assignments”
I thought the group leader noticed he was missing when the group returned to the room acter touring the bldg?
That is not my understanding- that would mean Kyron went missing under a chaperone, or group- I believe the groups were being formed out of the classrooms.
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I have been thinking incorrectly about the time TH left the school until Kyron left EM’s room. I thought Kyron went into the classroom when the bell rang, was put into a group, went with the group (possibly being separated) and ended up in EM’s room to see the cool electric one. So why would the chaperone/sub, according to TP’s account, ask where Kyron was when Porter replied he was probably in the bathroom or getting a drink of water. I’m having to rethink.
I think TP asked where Ky was, not a chaperone- and Ms. Porter responded. As I recall it was while they were being put into groups.
To my knowledge- there is no confirmed account ( does not mean there is not one) that Kyron went back into his class while waving goodbye to TH- in fact, I want to say that he passed a classmate in the Hall and said he was headed to the cool electric display BEFORE he went into the classroom- but he may have, I don’t know.
He could have easily bypassed the classroom and went down the back staircase. This was a few feet from his classroom hall and imo the reason that TH went the opposite direction- she could not hit the stairs with a stroller.
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Thanks MBS and Rose for IB info. My impression is that the Skyline IB coordinator would be present at the SF, but would have been present anyway as the coordinator is already a Skyline teacher.
Rethinking then, where and when were the kids put in to groups?
It is my understanding, and I cannot speak to all groups- but based on my interviews the kids returned to their classrooms at some point and then were placed into groups to tour the fair. Nobody that came before the schoolday officially started was in a group until the rest of the kids arrived. The volunteers/chaperones were class-based.
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