Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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  1. Rose says:

    https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_wa/602963361
    wyn D: What was this all about?
    That’s Neil’s son Kelly’s address.

  2. Amys Sister says:

    IMO, Kaine wasn’t bragging Terri had not seen her daughter, he was setting the record straight as there were people stating as fact that Terri has had contact with Kiara. Now we know that is not true. It also supports the theory that Terri will not talk even if it means she will not be able to see her child.

    It is likely Kaine said Terri is responsible but it was cut from the video portion of the report, which was ridiculous editing if true.

    AS- ( your gray again, lol, no idea) Those are both Kyle’s words. I have read the article and listened to the report 4x to be sure.

    It is possible he said that off camera- but as you point out, he never says either of those things himself- in terms of TH being involved or no contact on camera. Upthread Rose posted the link to the stipulation- there was a variety of milestones required by the court and then through the parent coordinators. Based on that, I do not believe that in context she is not participating in the parts she needs to as she testified in open court.
    B

  3. Amys Sister says:

    Rose says:
    June 3, 2015 at 5:52 am

    @Mom 3.0. I volunteer that I am now officially steamed.
    At Kaine and his livein faux mother, bragging at severing k
    from a mother not charged nor convicted.
    I hope if Kyron is alive he stays in good hands until
    he is 18 when he can safely return and follow in his
    brother’s footsteps as to who he lives with.
    ____

    It didn’t seem like bragging to me, it seemed like he was simply stating a fact for the record so commenters and those following the case would know the truth and not believe people who post statements as if they are fact when they are actually opinion or simply a lie. Several folks posting on the news sites have repeatedly stated Terri has been seeing Kiara, now we all know that is not true.

    Also, it is Terri’s responsibility to do as the court has requested in order to see her child. Many people at the time the court order came down believed she would not follow through. It looks like they were right.

    I am hard pressed to believe Kyron should stay with whomever kidnapped him as you suggest, assuming he is still alive, rather than be returned to his family. :(

  4. Rose says:

    The horman family tree is laid out in Neil’s obituary, url above.

  5. Rose says:

    The Comments are interesting.
    http://fathersfightforrights.blogspot.com/2011/05/custody-evaluations.html?m=1
    It was for his agreement to Bell as sole contact gatekeeper that I concluded
    Bunch incompetently represented Terri’s interests.

  6. Rose says:

    computer savvy venetia once had the answer to that LLC
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-84/
    venetia says:
    May 27, 2014 at 4:32 pm

  7. Mom3.0 says:

    Rose says:
    June 3, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    “The Murder Biz people- alive and well in Oregon.
    B”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

    It’s more than that Blink. More than these Writer’s & their Corporate employer’s BIZ.

    In this case, uniquely, both parents are part of the Biz, using PR and manipulating facts to take in money,
    and to have a public imag. And don’t tell me it’s for Kyron, because they are NOT doing anytthing to advance the investigation. I don’t follow these stories like Anthony, or Arias until her trial, so don’t know any facts or history of the parties. But isn’t there some BIZ analogy to the Anthony infant’s grandparents here?

    1. You’re right. Both DY and KH were paid guests of the Dr. Phil show.
    2. Anthony’s were paid $650K for their interview on his show.
    3. Casey Anthony is in NY ( was) with her PR agent swinging the arm of her original payment by abc for $250K.

    You know who I am sure has not made a red cent, in fact lost everything and has turned down all requests for interviews? Terri Horman.

    B

    —-

    Im working backwards

    Most respectfully
    Apologies but I have to question that both or these parents are part of the Biz or that their appearance on DP can be compared to the likes of George and Cindy

    Honestly How can anyone know if the motivations didnt include Kyron?

    How can any one say that Dy and KY are doing nothing to advance this investigation – they may be failing but they are still trying- they have worked diligently to bring Ky home in the very same ways as countless other Parents have done

    DY and Ky were part of the Dr Phil show- TH was invited but declined can we be sure it was for moral reasons over money and not just because of any moral ground but because her lawyer said no

    After watching the show it is entirely possible those monies were Secondary to getting Kys story out there-
    KIM at that time Kaine was supporting KI without the aid of Ths support payments so any extra monies were probably welcomed-

    Other motivations were in play I have no doubt DYs secondary reason seemed to be to point the finger at Terri WHICH remember Dr Phil guest squarly said No evidence he saw points to her…. so that motivation to me failed…

    I dont think the D Phil show is the best out there but these parents arent the only ones to agree or seek out this type of venue inorder to try and help their lost child- Nor are they the only parents of missing and murdered children who set up foundations or ask for contributions to help. Are all of them part of the biz? No and none that I know have ever declined money to appear on any show.

    The BIG difference between CA and CAs parents and Dy and KY is that they knew what happened to their granddaughter and by whose hands-no matter if you believe 1.0 story or 3.0 story
    They were in it for money AND to happily point their fingers in every direction but their daughters and their own

    TH may have never took a red cent for interviews
    nor did she ask for donations why would she? her bills were paid in full including that of her ace lawyer- gifted to her by her parents-

    She may have lost a great deal but so did DY and KY -

    truthfully part of the reason she did so was at the advice of her lawyer- rightly or wrongly – she had the choice to decline and fight the ros earlier

    AJMO Peace

  8. erose says:

    Poor communication skills is another reason this case is where it is. Sometimes I laugh at the comment section of the blogs where Kyle was dropped of by his mother-in-law – or some such nonsense.

    Rose says:
    June 3, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    @Blink. poor writing. The “he” who vanished
    refers to Kyron, not her 2 year older son.

    Geeze, I guess it is poor writing. At least I am not cray cray, thank you.
    B

  9. erose says:

    I agree that we don’t know how many steps TH has been allowed to make towards the gate. Perhaps she is still only allowed to write cards and send gifts to k. If someone wanted to protract the process, I’m sure they could.

  10. erose says:

    @Rose, Isn’t Kimberly (Wyn) Dahm was KH’s aunt?

  11. Rose says:

    There is one person and one only who decides if any letter, note, or picture Terr provides will ever reach kiara, Billie Bell. Obviously Bell has decided no letter or picture will be shown kiara. That is unsurprising. Her opinions sources are the child therapist Kaine chose (if she sees one) and Kaine. Kaine is relied on to report kiara’s state of mind & readiness to receive any info about mother. The only way out if this is for Bell to cease working.

    The url I just posted has plenty of comments reflecting consumers’ opinions that Bell is often highly prebiased, unstable, unprofessional, and more. Moreover, commenters say there and elsewhere Bell asks irrelevant, provocative, sexual, and personal questions unrelated to custody and visitation. I’d be pretty sure she’d ask irrelevant inappropriate questions of Terri relating to the “crimes” that Terri must refuse to answer, and there the ballgame goes.
    ——
    @AS. Kaine interjected highly personal information about kiara’s contact with mother out of left field in an interview on Kyron and his abduction. Not even on topic. Why? imo To get back in the good graces of the Soldiers who were slamming him on FB, to avoid hearing “poor choices” in Desiree’s media op, and imo to crow. He or Kristen have been crowing for awhile anyway, as several had posted that same info repeatedly on Soldier blogs and O comments over time, and imo even Billie Bell didn’t tell that platoon. only Kaine or Kristen was in the know and spread the word. And I had believed those posters btw.

  12. Rose says:

    Yes erose. The “system” got unsettled when Neil died imo.
    If Topher’s depiction of his father was anywhere close to reality, Kyron must have been a hard nut
    for Neil to swallow. per Topher, Neil didn’t like flaws in his son(s). For example Desiree has said Kyron was virtually blind without glasses. (So why would father think he’d go without?) Also wondering what ol Rudy’s up to.

  13. Mom3.0 says:

    Re rose Rose says:
    June 3, 2015 at 5:52 am

    @Mom 3.0. I volunteer that I am now officially steamed.
    At Kaine and his livein faux mother, bragging at severing k
    from a mother not charged nor convicted.
    I hope if Kyron is alive he stays in good hands until
    he is 18 when he can safely return and follow in his
    brother’s footsteps as to who he lives with


    I appreciate yr volunteering the realization on feelings- I can certainly sympathize// this case and the parties get under ones skin-
    Not sure why you include his SO in this- was she part of the interview as well?
    Im with AmySis on this one I do not think it was bragging at all
    in fact I question whether or not No contact means ALL contact or just physical as it was my understanding that written communication could begin immediately then to be followed if Ki was open- and if MH professional still found it to be in Ki best interests as well as IF Terri held to the other stipulations such as child support etc moving forward…. IOW Im not sure the whole story is being covered in that snippet.
    As for Terri not being tried or convicted – I agree it sucks if she is in fact innocent of all—but surely you understanding that she could be guilty…might understand KHormans being relieved that there has been no contact since he does seem to believe she is involved in harming or working in concert with someone who disappeared or harmed his son
    rose how could Ky be in good hands regardless of who you may or may not think is involved- if he was abducted this person/S has kept him away from ALL of his family all of his friends and kept a community and other innocents hostage as well as he Ky for 5 long years-
    I get yr ticked off at Kaine I understand yr reasonings but surely his shortcomings shouldnt bring hope that Ky remains missing until hes of age-
    AP

  14. Rose says:

    Are the Davidson ladies monitoring and approving this one too?
    https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1621337408107119
    Or is it theirs? Thus far it is unclaimed & anonymous tho promoted by
    Green’s FB. Or, one of thoseStaceys.

  15. Rose says:

    Soldier filmed on her home tv a ktvl interview with Desiree today, now on her FB.
    With shakey voice and sadness, Desiree got her points across. At roughly
    2:20: Terri did it. They’re reinterviewing people to find her accomplice(s).
    Kaine & I go the same direction, just different activities. I search for kyron AND evidence.
    He goes to car shows.
    I’d have more respect for the madonna who imo is a mess if she didn’t have the new hairdo,
    great dangling earrings matching the probable new dress, etc.

  16. Rose says:

    So what’s Kaine’s & Bell’s take on kiara visiting with her Moulton grandparents?
    http://www.oregonlive.com/kiddo/index.ssf/2015/06/oregon_grandparents_can_stay_i.html#incart_river_mobile

  17. Rose says:

    btw as both bios stated this week, mcso’s tweedledee and dum
    are reinterviewing people KNOWN to Terri to locate her accomplice that took Kyron.
    more years into PERS. And both parents are very OK with, and promote, this
    “current” investigatory approach.

  18. Mom3.0 says:

    RE

    AS Rose Blink
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-210/#comment-2244412

    maybe Im misremembering but Tony was not the self anointed 1st speaker rather one who was agreed upon by all 4

    IIRC he did stand up as the family spokesperson which was also presented as a joint decision by all

    IIRC he and Dy were guests in the home again by joint decision-
    TH doesnt strike me as someone who justs silently sits back in disagreement or other- or just goes along to get along

    She called 911 on Lscaper twice walked out on third poly- and openly spoke her mind on failures AND on other misconceptions in the media at that time- (in news section comments)
    Yet She never voiced not wanting Dy or TY in the home nor did she lament about TYs position as speaker-

    IIRC he TY did not initially have firm opinions about TH it wasnt until after her polys and after her lamenting about privacy etc that his opinions solidified- at that time not even DY claimed TH was definitely the one-(although now she has revised history w/ contrary statements)- back then IIRC it wasnt until after THs comment of “loved” that DY began to suspect TH
    I cant remember the date when Kaine began to think TH was involved but wasnt the timeframe after the sting? and even then IIRC LE did some major convincing IRT the MFHP and other revelations- KH was still not wanting to believe it
    Ajmo Peace

  19. tiny says:

    OMG OLive won’t let me comment. Whoever is invested in this not going anywhere is heavily invested. This is getting a little scary.

    which article- maybe I should develop a private thread just to keep track?
    B

  20. tiny says:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_case_continues_to.html#incart_river

    I don’t know what that means but doing anything would be good. There was complaints earlier about random posts disappearing but when I just tried to post, I wrote it out three times and it literally disappeared each time. I kept writing it because I thought I did something wrong. It is the site and me.

  21. Mom3.0 says:

    Re Rose

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-210/#comment-2244405

    Rose says:
    June 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm
    R snip
    In my opinion mcso’s lack of training in child stranger abductions, lack of experience, & failure to turn their investigatory budget cash cow over to an LE agency that does is the cause. Terri’s not that powerful to put golden handcuffs on any mcso employee investigating any aspect of the man who left with Kyron. Except now apparently Desiree is sure Kyron left with Terri & Kiara

    I agree lack of training in child stranger abductions, lack of experience,failure to turn their investigatory budget cash and other mistakes led to lack of productivity – Still logically I also include THs possibility of guilt and then her subsequent silence as a potential cause.
    To be open to the possibility of potential guilt or possible accomplice w/SZ means that the logical end/understanding if guilty and silent- TH is in fact “powerful” enough to stymie an investigation and secret away any inside knowledge-
    SZ was seen by many yet remains unknown-
    Whose to say SZ was definitely a man? IIRC even Blink said she could not deny outright the possibility that SZ may have been either gender if disguised
    AS for DY latest comments- they have me confused – and Im not certain even she doesnt realize they came off as nonsensical

    AJMO Peace

  22. Rose says:

    tiny. iirc you are local. stay strong.
    crazies out there. imo OLive & other
    shall we say figuratively prostitute
    media channels are not worth contributing to
    comments, really.

  23. Rose says:

    @tiny. imo press is kinda like Centre County wrt Sandusky
    historically, til he had to be had.

  24. tiny says:

    I know but figured that adding the occasional comment might be interesting and it was. There is a guy on there adding a lot more than I am. Anyway, just kind of sticking the bear. Anyway, it looks like Olive has had enough of comments out of me and mine don’t even make it to where they have to be deleted.
    I don’t care, not really. But that kind of silencing signals to me that there is a pretty heavy investment in the current narrative.

  25. Rose says:

    Lord only knows what Thursday will bring.
    This is a loosely coordinated get Terri campaign kicked off by
    mcso in a no-new-info or -directions press release which the press
    did not process because mcso-planned cannon shots 2 & 3
    were the reliably loose cannons.

  26. Malty says:

    Somewhere I have a copy of that visitation order it seemed to me to say all these steps that will take forever
    And also made it clear if Kiara didn’t want to visit or was uncomfortable That was going be the main
    Thing. If I find it I will post the link but some of you also have it if I remember right
    Kaine for sure must know all the steps and what the order says
    And where they are at in these steps So when he says no contact The way the deal is set up I am not surprised

    I thought Kaine looked better. He is thin But his hair and skin looked healthy to me. This whole week is stressful on them all
    If he just wants to rest and not light candles with a crowd I can understand that

    I also understand he is getting tired of this investigation going no where And is asking they look elsewhere
    For someone involved
    I am surprised more people aren’t saying the same after 5 long unproductive years
    I know I am sick and tired of this Terri Dede Where is Kyron
    Nothing comes of it Meanwhile Kyron is someplace

  27. T. Ruth says:

    KH was just on local Eugene KVAL news, and I’m quoting him

    “We already know she’s involved.”

    Then he went on to say when someone failed 2 or 3 lie detector tests (his voice very nervous or more like suppressing anger)……I don’t have the rest, but it’s the same stuff….blah blah blah. Just wanted to add the quoted above for ya’ll. I’ll see if I can find the link to the interview later, don’t have time right now, maybe someone else can pick it up.

    That’s interesting just from the perspective he now does not know what he was told she failed. Seems like an important issue if one is basing it’ s opinion on it.
    B

  28. Malty says:

    @Tiny
    Do you mean Olive is refusing your post On content or just refusing you access
    I haven’t tried to post lately As I feel so negative toward some of their reporters
    Hasn’t anyone hired a reporter who can just do a interview and report it with out a personal view
    Point
    I am afraid I will get out of control over there about these reporters
    So I will let TKG Handle it She does fairly well Better than I can anyway
    Why is the Portland area so short on good reporters Are they not paid well or what Rose?
    Do you know?

  29. Malty says:

    I don’t see that DOC saying that about Kiara being uncomfortable. I must have dreamed that one
    Sorry

  30. Malty says:

    I was thinking about our yearly Rose Fest in 2010 as it brings lots of people here
    This is what I found

    http://www.rosefestival.org/news/2010/rose-festival-2010-has-arrived

  31. tiny says:

    I was posting on Olive earlier and then later in the day it was just refusing my post. As odd as it sounds, I would type it out and then it would disappear. I tried 3 times.

  32. T. Ruth says:

    Wow, I can’t find that broadcasted interview anywhere online. Sorry, but I was in the middle of cooking dinner. I know I quoted the man correctly. As I was briefly saying, he went on to say that when one fails 2 or 3 LDT’s something is terribly wrong, or some such. (I hope that’s not his basis for “knowing” his latest ex-wife is involved, but I got the feeling that is exactly where he was coming from.) Surely Kaine Horman knows, after all this time, that LE lies, and is perfectly legal in doing so. Surely he’s not basing his opinion, or should I say his “knowing”, as in knowledge, upon TMH venting about what LE told HER. And there he is using that word “WE” again. Who is WE? He and DY? HE and DY & TY? He and MCSO? He and just whom know TMH is involved? Would be nice if he elaborated.

    He also mentioned the failure of questions was regarding her knowledge of where Kyron was AFTER she left him, as did DY earlier on. Bizarre. I will keep looking, but it seems to have disappeared, much like our little guy.

  33. T. Ruth says:

    Chalk it up to one more bizarre thing, looks like that interview is gone. Can’t find a thing there other than DY’s latest.

    http://www.kval.com/search?q=%22kaine+horman%22

    Report led with something like “father of missing boy…..”. Oh well, at least lamb shanks were delicious and not overdone. Sorry again guys.
    Maybe someone will at some point have recorded it and bumped it up to youtube.

  34. T. Ruth says:

    So getting back to alleged email sent to Porter by TMH excusing Kyron from school for a doctor appointment.

    Firstly, DY has never mentioned this before, nor KH. In fact, in the beginning it was never answered when they were asked whether or Kyron had a medical appointment. How simple it would and should have been to say, yes he did, but it was for the following Friday. So this makes me wonder, if in fact there is even such record of said email, and it was not on one of the computer files erased by the school, what did the email say?

    If TMH sent it say Thursday evening, and it was received by Porter on Friday morning and it said something such as:

    Just to let you know, Kyron will not be in school Friday because he has a medical appointment.

    Well yes, that’s pretty vague, and TMH being a teacher herself, I think she would know that it was. However if she had inserted the word *next* before Friday, then that throws the ball into another court.

    If she sent that email on Thursday, and it said “next Friday”, I myself would think she meant the 11th…..my husband on the other hand, would think it was the next day. (We’ve gone round and round on this sort of terminology, LOL) In any case if she failed to mention the exact date, June 11, or whatever, then I can certainly see how Porter would have easily made the mistake of *thinking Kyron was at the doctor*, particularly if she reviewed the email AFTER, she was thinking he was in the potty.

    Now, all that being said, does that mean TMH was being lax or coy (IF this is what happened), no it does not. It simply *could* mean she wasn’t as specific as she should have been.

    Up until now, I always thought this was actually some sort of absentee form used by the school that exchanged hands on June 3 between Porter & TMH, but if it was an email, I can see how this might happen. Confusion I mean, and that’s why I asked if it was common for a parent to send an email as an excused absence doc.

    I know I would have put a date, but that’s just me and the way I do things. I was going to say that if the school purged it, then it’s gone. But….thinking back to my last computer crash…..most emails are stored either on your computer in some hidden file, or on the server and the contents of which can usually be recovered. (Just ask Kitz or Hilary.)

  35. Malty says:

    @TRuth can’t find Kaine on KVAL. Just the same interview about DY. from yestday

  36. Mom3.0 says:

    Re Blinks response

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-210/#comment-2244399

    Mom3.0 just to clarify, whenever there is a stranger abduction of a child and the immediate caregivers/parents are in the process of being cleared, LE and “they” do NOT mingle. They do not stay walled up. It is protocol 101 to separate them. At the very least, regardless of Tony’s status, LE with no jurisdiction had no business being there and should have been cleared. In fact, Tony prefaced TH’s interview as I recall.

    In fact, the crater theory, and as stated many times by DY, she felt it possible TH got home and then “something happened.” I believe she also asked Kaine to search their property on the Dr. Philly show.

    Well, that also means the Kyron home had not been cleared appropriately as a crime scene potential. Let me say it this way- I can assure the CART trained folks she just sponsored would agree with me.

    At the end of the day, I am just talking about improper protocol for the situation and that happened for days.
    B

    Blink
    thank you for the clarification and I agree it is not protocol in a definite stranger abduction- but I recall at first LE and the parents werent treating it as an abduction- which back then you and I and others lamented against this because to us at the time we thought isnt best to work from the worst case scenario and not the best. Just to be clear I didnt mean to imply that it is protocol to be walled up together-
    I dont read the crater stuff, unless someone posts it here.
    I do not take DYs assertions as gospel- for as you know I do not personally believe TH was involved.Still like many, I can not rule out the possibility all together-
    I think DYs speech stc is akin to her publicly suffering on that tree you once spoke about- shes hitting every branch on the way down.

    Again, I totally appreciate, understand and agree with yr closing statement: At the end of the day, I am just talking about improper protocol for the situation and that happened for days.
    B

    Done catching up thanks
    AJMO Peace

    I agree that the immediate response indicated that Kyron walked off grounds- he had done so before with a friend. Th had discussed his “spaceyness” with his and Kiara’s Dr. the day before.

    This case reminds me so much of JBR for so many reasons. I don’t think anyone is prepared to exclude TH involvement 100% really until Ky is found, I can only say that I have never seen a scintilla of credible evidence she was/is, and I have seen a great deal of what was supposed to be the case against her in both mfh and Kyron’s disappearance was a baseless mess, in some cases complete fabrications that fell apart one by one and this lady and her child were separated at a critically developmental time for K. You know I continue to appreciate your ability to see and interpret from all sides Mom3.0

    B

    B

  37. Rose says:

    wrt Kaine on kval.
    ground rules
    editorial control
    not going to change his stripes imo.

  38. Rose says:

    @Malty. “Why is the Portland area so short on good reporters Are they not paid well or what Rose” http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-211/#comment-2244499
    In my opinion, journalism is just like law or social work or education, the local professional cultures reflect the quality of the State’s professional schools (colleges). Oregon seems to be 0 for 4 in all 4 trades. But does better in health care and IT it seems. iirc Pitkin trained out of State as did Houze.

  39. Rose says:

    @TRuth. imo interview’s gone because it violates the Stip
    for him to say that himself on camera. imo kval was supposed
    to handle his accusation like Kyle did.
    He seems to just be quoting Terri’s venting on the poly thing.
    Imo at the time if Tony were legit, he would’ ve looked at
    his hostess Terri and said LE lies all the time in interviews and polys.

  40. Rose says:

    @tiny. OLive is violating the Constitution: prior restraint of speech.
    (said tongue in cheek)

  41. erose says:

    @TRuth, I thought TH gave Porter paperwork the day before wrt the dr appt? The recent email development makes me wonder if TH emailed that info to Porter. What has always bothered me about Porter and the dr. appt. is why she did not think it strange that TH requested the paperwork (no doubt because the doctor wanted it) but proceed to take Kyron to the doctor that Friday without said paperwork.

  42. Rose says:

    wrt “his voice very nervous or more like suppressing anger)……I don’t have the rest, but it’s the same stuff….blah blah blah.” http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-211/#comments
    Heard that pressured anger to TH in his voice on media before, & it was always when her attorney had made a score in the divorce saga.
    ——-
    What I pick up from Kaine & Desiree is mcso is re-interviewing KNOWN associates of TH in an effort to id her accomplice. MCSO is NOT going after the starting point of the unknown man in Mathews room, still.

  43. Rose says:

    @erose ” Perhaps she is still only allowed to write cards and send gifts to k. ”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-211/#comments
    I believe no contact includes all indirect communication.
    Imo TH refused to answer one or more of Bell’s off-topic
    or inappropriate questions which many other clients
    state she asks out of bias. And Kaine would represent any
    pictures or notes would disrupt his little girl’s otherwise terrific
    adjustment in her new family and school. Easy for Bell to justify denying
    all forms of contact.

  44. Rose says:

    WW is unique for not covering Kyron’s abduction at all.
    1 of two things imo:
    the DA or someone’s lawyer sent WW a threatening letter demanding coverage cessation &
    WW decided it wasn’t worth it
    or
    Rackner & Meeker attend the same synagogue, are friends, and she made a
    personal request for no negative coverage.
    Imo it would be impossible for a good unbiased reporter to cover the story
    without negative articles about Kaine, and true articles about SZ.

  45. Rose says:

    Pitkin http://www.dhammaweb.net/dhamma_news/view.php?id=49
    familiar writing style?
    his first Other Favorite relates to Burma
    https://www.facebook.com/james.pitkin1
    nice he’s on the road again.

  46. Malty says:

    @TRuth went back and found some woman interviewing Kaine at the wall of hope Where he said everyone knows she failed the LTT tests athe the later part he says he wants LE to re interview. The people interviewed at the first of the case then refers to some one re interviewed that remembered more tips
    This was on KVAL. But not sure it was today. I hadn’t seen it before I am not quoting just Giving you a lead or two so you can find maybe find it
    I just thought of all them crowds for the Rose Fest. Every year In 2010 it started the end of May.
    See my link Anyway there could have been lots of people from everywhere in Portland when Kyron, went missing

    Don’t think most people want to think about that however

  47. Malty says:

    I kind of feel for Kaine I think he would like to have LE FBI go another way but doesn’t want
    Upset a bunch of people either And has to protect Kiara. Not make some other person
    Start thinking about her.
    He seems to not want to just talk about Terri but get another idea out there peacefully if possible
    IMO

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