Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage

Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing,  Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.

Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW,  a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.

In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud-  the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper,  Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.

Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.

 

 

BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.

 

 

 

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15,021 Comments

  1. Rose says:

    wrt rhetorical “Somebody wanna tell me how he gets clipped in May and he is teaching in September/October? ”

    Union

    If this issue was subjected to Union representation review I would have a major policy problem as a parent.
    B

  2. Rose says:

    Because Staton said june 9 “how far a man could walk”
    it sounds like a search theory was a man left his vehicle at the school
    or was a neighbor on foot and just kept walking with kyron to
    1) hand him over to Terri on her driving route after her
    Meyers, or 2) do his dirty. That theory fits Desiree’s statement and the possibility
    the planted/found glasses were found early in the school 2 mo perimeter search
    in the direction of Cornelius Pass. That would explain mcso’s slowness to
    complete the 2 mi radius of the school, and the overemphasis of search
    resources 6/6ff on Cornelius Pass and Cornell whilst having not finished the
    radius. imo that means they were found 6/5, misdirecting the search (imo
    deliberately). And he controlled Kyron by removing the glasses. That suggests
    SZ knew the extent of K’s visual disability. And was someone who
    knew Terri’s habits. I bet she often did this relaxing k drive
    after the mornings she went in the school on K business.
    In my 3 yrs of driving my kid to a school in a rural area, after dropping him I often drove almost the same route in
    the pretty, rural terrain, adding an unnecessaryhour plus to my roundtrip,
    just because I did, andit became a habit. Imo someone made SZ familiar with Terri’s habits.

  3. Rose says:

    your profile said “someone who’d datedin the area,” Blink.
    Did Terri go tit for tat on Kaine’s affair by “dating” in the
    year leading up to the abduction? Since I’m suggesting someone
    who knew Terri’s daily habits & K’s visual disability.

  4. Rose says:

    In my house, that whole ride the bus home from school on its rural route that day was fishy. At one time we had his bus route here and knew which stop he was and the bus timeline. Here hi schools let out first, and el eds last. You can bet if my 7 yo had a grueling 5 hr drive (both ways that weekend), Kaine & his truck woukd’ve been waiting at school for his release and trucked straight on from there, and Quinn woukd’ve been told to rendevous at Skyline at X time if he wanted a ride, even if he had to leave his own school a bit early. That way Kaine would have missed evening traffic, and K woukd’ve been there at 8.

  5. Rose says:

    looks like mcso is now adding a Fairview contract
    this expansion of services by contract to small communities has
    been Staton’s priority during his tenure. That management record
    will be his platform when be runs for the next challenge.

  6. cd says:

    Gwen says:
    October 20, 2015 at 8:53 pm
    T. Ruth says:
    October 19, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    Does anyone think it weird that she drove, instead of her husband?

    *******************
    DY likes to take a lot of license in her statements to the press. I may be that she was not driving or only drove the last hour when TY became tired having already driven 4 hours So DY makes it sound like she drove the entire way to make things sound more dramatic.

  7. MockingbirdSings says:

    Gwen says:
    October 20, 2015 at 8:53 pm
    T. Ruth says:
    October 19, 2015 at 1:30 pm
    Does anyone think it weird that she drove, instead of her husband?
    *******************

    I find that very strange. I envisioned all this time that it was TY driving with DY a mess in the passenger side. Hmm. That seems significant somehow. It could be she was more angry than panicked. Some people become hyper-focused when angry and maybe this was going to be the match to the fire (as in her anger at KH and TH) and she could let loose on both of them. Would that not make sense given what we’ve seen for the past 5+ years? Her anger would override the very serious situation regarding Ky and the focus becomes this strange triangle (KH, TH, DY) instead of on Ky?

    I also wonder why TY would have let her drive and so it suggests something, to me, about their relationship and possibly what she’s like when angry.
    —————————————

    I agree about the driving arrangement seeming strange – but then it could also be he was short on sleep, had reading to catch up on, phone calls to make, it was her car (if they have 2). The question that strikes me is, given all she has said about herself since then, who would be comfortable riding with her? But if she has a spotless driving record, then why not, I suppose?

  8. erose says:

    I am furious at DY. What is she doing and what is she trying to hide by misleading everyone? Adults saw them after that, Zimmerman, Porter just to name two.

    snip>

    erose- TH, Ky and Kiara turned around at about the front entrance when they realized Kyron forgot his backpack in the truck. This is the impetus for DY comments about them “leaving”. They never crested the doorway until they returned to the truck, retrieved the backpack, headed to Kyron’s classroom, hung up his jacket and backpack and toured the SF, ensuing pics, etc. Further evidence of this is the fact that Kyron’s jacket and backpack were hanging in his classroom still when it was discovered he was missing.

    http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-272/#comments

  9. T. Ruth says:

    What if:

    TMH did in fact tell RSE she wanted her husband done away with.
    RSE did, contrary to his testimony, find someone to do the job.
    RSE, however, has no idea who was to do the job, because he went through a middle man.
    Javier Trejo-Richarte was the middle man.
    TMH at some point called off the hit, which resulted in the following scenario:

    So, LE, looking for any kind of connection of SZ to the family, finds RSE. LE interviews TNH regarding RSE and TMH tells them he was simply hired to do some yard work. LE contacts RSE. RSE, after being interviewed by LE, tells them she wanted someone to kill her husband, but of course he tells them he didn’t have anything to do with that, and declined the proposal.

    Why would he tell them that? Why didn’t he contact the police when she made him the offer in the first place? Why didn’t he contact the police when a little boy went missing and tell them his step-mom was a dingbat?

    Why? Maybe, because he did arrange the hit and the little bit of truth he gave, about knowing she wanted to off her husband had to somehow come out, because there were either texts from TMH or some other form of communication between RSE & TMH that LE now had, that had nothing to do with yard work and had to be explained.

    So, after TMH tells RSE to call it off, RSE gets hold of JTR, who gets hold of hit-man to tell him to call off the hit. Hit man says no way can they leave this situation and simply walk away. She will turn them all in. Hit man says you get her money, because that will implicate her and otherwise she will talk. JTR tells RSE someone’s got to pay up, and RSE confronted TMH. This is the reason for TMH’s/RSE’s confrontation where he lunged at her. He has to pay up and she’s refusing to give the money. She even tells RSE, the part of her story about the $10k on KH every day, was BS, she just made it up. (She’s not afraid to call 911 on RSE, because in her mind she’s innocent, she called it off and never paid a dime. LE will believe her.) So Hitman can’t get the money by offing KH either. RSE tells her you either pay up or there will be hell to pay. (Calling off a hit, might just be more dangerous to the buyer of said services than going through with it, it potentially exposes Hitman, who I’m guessing, makes a living at this job and would not hesitate to take out all who are in any way connected to the crime.)

    Meanwhile Hitman, now being pissed off, and being afraid TMH will finger him via RSE, via JTR, gets back at her (he knows who she is, because he knows who he was supposed to take out, KH), but TMH doesn’t know who HE is. (She can honestly say, she has no idea who took Kyron.) Hitman follows TMH around for a few days. Decides if she won’t pay him, he’ll take her next precious thing away, a child. He follows her to the school that day, as soon as she leaves, he takes Kyron. He now knows, she won’t be talking, because this would all be her fault. He also takes out JTR with some bad drugs/overdose, and leaves his body right where the searches have been taking place, as a warning to all those involved, and by doing so, all Hitman’s direct connections to TMH are severed. (Also no way RSE can now be connected to Hitman, because JTR was the only connection.) Silence or you or your loved ones will be next. This also would explain TMH’s dropping of the initial custody fight over the baby and her acceptance of the limited parenting plan. She would know, that she is, by her own actions, a serious threat to the safety of her children. This is also why she hired Houze, not because of her abduction of Kyron, but because it was her fault he was abducted, and she now knows it. (FWIW, if this scenario is anything close to what happened, I don’t think TMH ever realized her children would be in jeopardy until AFTER Kyron went missing.)

    If this were the scenario? Would it make any difference in finding a little boy, if RSE said I contacted this now dead-guy, and he contacted someone, whom I don’t know who said he’d do the job? Would it make any difference in finding a little boy, if TMH said I contacted RSE who contacted someone who I don’t know (who is now dead) and he contacted someone who would try to kill my husband, but then I called it off. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think all that would do, would put both of them in jail. Kyron would still be missing and Hitman is out doing his thing.

    IDK, is this too simple?

    ************
    PS, I know Blink doesn’t think there ever was a MFHP, but since I don’t think TMH had anything to do with having Kyron abducted, I have to have a reason why she hired Houze and even more, why she gave up custody of her little girl. This is the only thing that makes sense to me.

    (I’m sure we’ve probably gone over something like this scenario before, but the placement of JTR’s body, still seems like it must be relevant to this case. Not to mention, LE’s silence on that matter as well.)

    T- respectfully- I dont believe you question counsel for T- but I enjoy your proffer and support it.
    B

  10. Rose says:

    all I can say is looking at Brian Pumala an electrician & plumber on his myspace, I sawWendy’s profile pic provocatively stanced in turquoise and not so much age diff from Kaine, who has been presented in public as indiscriminate shall we say. But what do I know, I’ve spent the day watching a pinhead hairdo (bengazhi). He needs Aveda.

  11. Rose says:

    And since Brian apparently was in Wendy’s house with Tanner 6/4 evening…
    maybe he knew Terri.

  12. T. Ruth says:

    Oh, and BTW, Beejay, donde’ esta?

  13. Rose says:

    pta twitter shares a twitter follower with the pta volunteer coordinator
    https://mobile.twitter.com/SkylinePTA/followers

  14. thatkewlgirl says:

    I was reading this article this morning about DNA linking a fella to the 1980′s crimes against little boys… and wonder if he was living in Oregon when Kyron disappeared…

    *snip*
    “Rasmuson had been living quietly in Idaho for about five years, although his arrival there triggered protest because of his criminal history.

    He was committed in 1982 to Atascadero State Hospital in Central California after being declared a mentally disordered sex offender for sodomizing and orally copulating an 11-year-old Santa Barbara boy. He was released after two years.

    After completing his prison sentence in connection with the 1987 abduction, Rasmuson spent time in Santa Barbara County, Oregon and Washington before going in Idaho.”

    More at link….

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-dna-links-sex-offender-to-cold-case-slaying-20151022-story.html

  15. Rose says:

    Blink’s original profile – this page
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/11/02/kyron-horman-case-terri-horman-sexts-sent-to-kaine-hormans-phone-what/comment-page-75/#comments
    also noted, there are 2 Steve F’s, father and son, and one was at SF with Wendy.

  16. Rose says:

    Desiree is correct, if there is no searching, finding is unlikely. Quite sad for the families.

    My suggestion is that apart from the immediate school radius (unlikely to be a highly organized offender’s choice), likely the very search areas have been misplaced, driven byTerri theory.
    ——-
    In looking for typical discarding paths & distance, I found some reading

    https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/october/serial-killers-part-8-new-research-aims-to-help-investigators-solve-cases/serial-murder-pathways-for-investigations

    http://www.loreto.herts.sch.uk/wp-content/uploads/Canter.pdf

  17. Rose says:

    suggesting we’ve all been misled by mcso’s well-publicized request of
    surveillance footage from a certain list of streets — this list was driven by
    Terri theory imo, not driven by analysis of the route a highly organized serial sadistic pedofile
    woukd have taken for satisfaction and disposal.

  18. Rose says:

    @TRuth. always enjoy your hypos and writings.
    imo javier was a small time mexican gang member &
    perhaps a drug mule. He git no press because LE knew the cartel
    wanted press–his death to bring other mules in line. imo

    Terri hired Houze not because of the RSE mfh allegation, to include the “sting.”
    If Kaine had backed her (haha fantasy), that would’ve gone away promptly, and the
    mcso focus woukd have been on SZ alone.
    She hired Houze, rather, because mcso accused her in an affidavit thru Kaine under oath
    quoting mcso liaison wrt hearsay, to a felony, which a judge believed and actd on, granting the RO. It
    coukd have been any felony; it happened to be the mfh. And MCSO/DA failed in their duty
    to include the exculpatory sting. Imo lied to the Court. I expect Meisenheimer retired because
    he had exparte confirmatory conversations with mcso/ or a da.
    .

  19. Rose says:

    I’ve been on that page a long time, erose. First I thought it was lack of higher education and intelligence.
    Then I factored in her insular social feedback loop. Then I wondered about a certain personality disorder.
    None are fully explanatory. Can’t be money. She had many media appearances like Dr Phil. She has a good job.
    possibly her marriage contributes. As long as she needs her heroic detective to help her get Terri and find Kyron, he’ll be around imo.
    —-
    I would like to know if Kaine had an insurance policy on Kyron & the amount. If he did, 7 years isn’t far away.

  20. Rose says:

    here you go TRuth
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/03/northwest_portland_roundup_new.html
    looks like garden variety heroinoverdose with body disposed of
    one could get tox cause of death from his death certificate
    since no more press, imo the cause of death, tox report, & the death cert. were unremarkable.

  21. Rose says:

    the puzzle is the Elden Rosenthal roll of her dice.
    Imo neither she nor anyone in Medford or FB social
    systems were capable of his coming to their attention.
    It is true his wife, iirc, considered herself a reading specialist/
    nonprofit administrator with a contract with pps, one I
    personally consider antithetical to Federal legislation requiring
    school employees to provide services during school hours.
    things got simplified for Margie’s business contract-wise
    when obama’s version of Bush’s nclb got implemented.
    Anyway, the shortest distance from a Desiree to b Rosenthal,
    as Blink would say, was not mcso/da, but PPS having
    all along had a Desiree-liaison assigned to figuratively
    butter-up, probably someone in legal, who connected her to Eldon,
    likely Eldon was well known to PPS, or even
    Carole, as hers was the numero uno nonprofit business imo
    allowed to be on school sites, DURING school hours,
    doing the work pps employees are supposed to do by law.
    So I see Elden’s suit as another PPS’ CYA-and-point-at-Terri move
    until shown otherwise.

  22. Rose says:

    An MBS weigh in? I am having Duh moments.
    Obviously, in retrospect, to me anyway, PPS assigned a Counselor-liaison to the bios.
    (palm hits my forehead)
    I do not believe it was one of those ever-rotating Skyline Counselors whose hands were full with students & staff. Plus the bios’ personalities are the sort to need to feel important. meant the Counselor-liaison would be Central Office staffer. Someone important. I am of the opinion this hypothetical Counselor-liaison’s work was what averted a PPS tort suit by bios. in this particular egregious negligence case I suggest it is likely there was ongoing consultation by a Central Office Counseling staff honcho coordinating with pps Legal. (After all, Kaine thinks internal employee org legal consults are the norm.) I think Elden came to Desiree via a PPS intermediary, a friend of Margie. What do you think?

  23. Rose says:

    just starting on this journey

    2015 Central staffing
    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/student-services/369.htm
    look to right. where was TJ Dir in 2010; how did she get promoted?

    2010 she was presenting to schoolbased Admins (say principals) this power point on bullying, working hand in hand with her co-credited employee in pps legal. Known to Legal, imo she coukd have been called on in pps extremis
    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/student-services/Leadership_1_6_11_bullying.ppt

    How’d she earn her promotion?
    hint: not drug/alcohol, not lgt
    http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/student-services/373.htm

    my question is who was the bios’ central office counseling family liaison?
    that employee averted a multifigure suit & settlement.
    worthy of promotion imo.

  24. Rose says:

    oh heck

    Bobbie ODonnel was on the PPB/MCDA child abuse team for 5 yrs
    Tammy Jackson PPS has at least now the child abuse assignment
    Moawad did abuse

    everyone was on the same page wrt Terri the perp

    who told them she was the anger queen and dangerous?
    imo not RSE

  25. Rose says:

    In 2008 Jackson was in charge of student conduct & discipline. By Apr 2013 she bad been promoted to Stdent Services Dir. She became the Queen of Restorative Justice to the School Board. That is the bandwagon Keefer rode the crest of whilst at George Middle, the blurb this July moving him to Vernon noted (iirc a 60% reduction in
    minority expulsions).
    http://www.pamplinmedia.com/component/content/article?id=64849

  26. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    October 23, 2015 at 2:55 pm
    snipped –
    In looking for typical discarding paths & distance, I found some reading
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/october/serial-killers-part-8-new-research-aims-to-help-investigators-solve-cases/serial-murder-pathways-for-investigations
    ————————————
    @Rose – thanks for this.
    I’m assuming the logical conclusion relating to this case is that if a family member did not abduct and harm Kyron, the chances are very high that the person who did is, or will someday be, considered a serial offender. The research linked above points out that previous research on serial murders was based on information collected after the offender was known and is not so helpful during an active investigation for a variety of reasons.

    This research is very interesting. Two things stand out – not really new, but reinforced – (1) finding a body is not absolutely necessary to solving the case, but close to it, and (2) the FBI has experts who can, want to, and will provide assistance in investigating cases involving serial offenders, knowing that most investigators do not have as much training in this area as with other crimes.

    Bottom Line – again: MCSO should be turning this case over to the FBI. If Terri really is responsible, MCSO should have nothing to fear by having the case reviewed by experts who have no reason to cover that up (once proven).

    (quotes from the article)
    “Although a multitude of information has been published relating to serial murder, most of the studies were conducted from the perspective of an identified offender and concentrated on the offender’s development; upbringing; familial relationships; history of physical, sexual, and emotional abuse; and other factors, which were viewed in terms of causality. A number of these studies, including the FBI’s original study, also relied on self-reported information obtained from offenders during interviews.”

    “While developmental information concerning a serial killer provides interesting insights, it has little utility in helping identify an unknown offender during an active serial murder investigation for a number of reasons.” [reasons listed here in the article] “All of these factors highlight the need for updated research material viewed through an investigative prism that is based upon informa¬tion that would be available to law enforcement investigators working an active unsolved serial murder case.”

    “. . . it helps to discern certain offender characteristics that are identifiable during active investigations. The goal in publishing this monograph is to provide law enforcement investigators with relevant data that assists in the identification, arrest and conviction of serial murder offenders.”

    “The majority of investigators do not have the same experience level with serial murder investigations as they do in other types of crime. Subject matter experts can be highly beneficial in assisting the investiga¬tive agency with unusual intricacies involved in these types of cases. The FBI’s National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime is uniquely qualified to provide investigative and behavioral assistance, case linkage, profiles of unknown offenders, media strategy, interview strategy, and prosecutive assistance.”

    “The FBI stands ready to assist our state, local, and international partners. We understand that the best way to combat any threat – be it terrorism, gang violence, or serial murder – is to combine our knowledge and resources with those of our partners, and to work as one team.”

    Excellent link MBS
    B

  27. Rose says:

    @TKG many news articles omit Oregon saying he went from Lompoc to WA to ID.
    Hiwever in Sept ’10 he apparently moved for a bit from WA to a motel in Eugene, and shortly acter to ID
    http://special.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/updates/25275783-55/police-rasmuson-area-convicted-public.csp
    He did use a ruse with the 11 yo, as SZ did with kyron

  28. Rose says:

    whereabouts in Aug 2010
    http://www.cityoffederalway.com/Archive/ViewFile/Item/63
    apparently he left for eugene a month after this notice issued.

  29. Rose says:

    up until he moved to Federal Way WA in Aug 2010, he resided in Lompoc CA
    http://m.bonnercountydailybee.com/mobile/news/local/article_99bd465c-d112-11df-abee-001cc4c03286.html
    (this guy seems a disorganized type of offender to me)

  30. Rose says:

    Sharon (who posted Rasmuson’s first arrest in March) and TKG, he’s going to get NGRI
    in the two murders and be reconfined at the same old State Hospital for life. The 2 murders occurred before his incarceration and treatment. He responded to Lupron (even if he manipulated) and cognitive treatment. However releasing him to poverty and a transiet motel and a shady nonprofit State contractor (housing in a State campground?) guaranteed reoffense. Offenders like him requiring an injectable and institutionalized for 2 decades need integration prior to release into a structured day program, then a supervised group house, and injection under supervision at an outpatient clinic with continued therapy to have a shot. I cannot find where he was if he was traveling between Lompoc and Federal Way (Aug 2010) in June 2010. The FBI should have been able to determine that after his arrest 1 in March 2015. But they were rolling up known murder 2. Probably they were working on the arrest 1 in 2014. A reasonable suspicion of him would explain no searches and no explanations for Young.

  31. Rose says:

    @Ode. Desiree described being so shattered when she arrived at Horman’s and saw the press, she was unable to open her own car door and Tony had to help her to the house. CD had a good suggestion imo.

  32. Rose says:

    mother thordis thea rasmuson of sand point apparently
    lived in lake oswego at one point but I don’t have subscriptions to get “a report”

  33. Rose says:

    http://www.whitepages.com/name/Thordis-Rasmuson
    Son Kenneth K is mentioned.

    Places her as having moved to Lake Oswego in 2015 –same town as sister Joan — perhaps after the arrest?
    http://m.legacy.com/dignity-memorial/obituary.aspx?n=Marguerite-Giroux-Eckman&lc=6764&pid=174933555&mid=6457132

    KKR might have stopped at his aunt’s en route to WA. Moving out of CA, and lack of housing and job, would have been big stressors. And maybe, on the move, he did not have his lupron orescription.

  34. Rose says:

    If KKR was staying with his aunt in lake oswego at the time, imo mcso’s check of sex offenders turned him up.
    He should have been on the fbi’s horizon to check out as well, due to proximity.
    http://ktla.com/2015/10/23/convicted-sexual-predator-charged-with-death-of-second-southland-boy/
    He discarded in a wash, on a construction site, in the desert. Plenty of forest towards Lake Oswego.
    Surveillance film that direction was not requested. Wonder what he drove? River borders Oswego too,
    & Deyos once lived in W Linn. when Staton said things coming out of this investigation
    that will surprise you it could have referred to this violent sex offender with young males on the loose.
    Maybe he was id’d as the possible SZ by Mathews years ago.

    Needs a Lannin interview.
    B

  35. Rose says:

    was KKR’s relative in the area
    on your horizon Blink as you
    repeatedly said Desiree is barking up
    the wrong tree and needs to call on
    mcso/da to advance the investigation?

    IRT KKR needs a look, if only to exclude.
    B

  36. Rose says:

    2010 vehicle ownership would’ve been registered in Calif in early 2010.
    Mcso should’ve gotten & run his plates for Apr – July for any OR tickets, etc.
    And seen if he had a trackable cell in 2010 when it was determined he was passing
    thru. And shown his pic to all Mathews room witnesses. And gotten surveillance video that
    summer between the southerly direction & school. So much for that Task Force productivity
    in the face of tunnel vision.

  37. thatkewlgirl says:

    Re Rasmuson – The big question is… where was he on June 4, 2010? I don’t think LE has a fricken clue. And THAT might be the biggest defense fact for Houze’s case.

    This guy is much more plausible as a suspect than the mother that raised this little boy.

    Thanks for the research Rose

  38. erose says:

    @Rose, Great research on KKR.

  39. MockingbirdSings says:

    Excellent link MBS
    B

    Rose found the link but I thought maybe some wouldn’t have time to take a look, so I thought I’d give people more information to decide if they’d like to read it all. Makes me wonder if MCSO and other agencies keep up with FBI research and resources.

    TY MBS- FBI accompanied Terri for weeks.
    B

  40. MockingbirdSings says:

    Rose says:
    October 24, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    An MBS weigh in? I am having Duh moments.
    Obviously, in retrospect, to me anyway, PPS assigned a Counselor-liaison to the bios.
    (palm hits my forehead)
    I do not believe it was one of those ever-rotating Skyline Counselors whose hands were full with students & staff. Plus the bios’ personalities are the sort to need to feel important. meant the Counselor-liaison would be Central Office staffer. Someone important. I am of the opinion this hypothetical Counselor-liaison’s work was what averted a PPS tort suit by bios. in this particular egregious negligence case I suggest it is likely there was ongoing consultation by a Central Office Counseling staff honcho coordinating with pps Legal. (After all, Kaine thinks internal employee org legal consults are the norm.) I think Elden came to Desiree via a PPS intermediary, a friend of Margie. What do you think?
    ——————————-
    @Rose – Those Duh moments can really make a dent in my forehead sometimes.
    I agree about the PPS connection suggestion you mentioned and an upper level liaison assigned to work with the bios – highly likely. I’m not sure about the counselor part. I can think of some in the past, when PPS had a lot more administrative staff, who would have been my definite choice for that responsibility. Not so much now, but maybe there is someone – since Carol has been in PPS a long time, she would know people she feels she could trust (a requirement for this effort).

    However, I’m wondering about the PPS IB administrator who was at the SF and who would have worked closely during the year with the school. Neither bio was involved with the school then, but they would feel she was district-knowledgeable (20 plus years) and personally familiar with what happened since she was there. I know her – she has been a teacher, high school principal and a PPS lobbyist in Salem with the legislature in the past. She’s compassionate, honest, a good communicator, and fair – if anyone had any information that wasn’t made public, she would, in my opinion, although I know she would keep confidential whatever was expected of her. I think they would trust her. Just a thought.

  41. erose says:

    Court of Appeal, Second District, Division 2, California.

    The PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. Kenneth RASMUSON, Defendant and Appellant.

    No. B183616.

    Decided: December 21, 2006

    - See more at: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZRwceRJ_vdAJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1303388.html+&cd=16&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us#sthash.UUMjpDRR.dpuf

  42. erose says:

    KKR was very unstable in Aug., Sept., Oct. 2010. He moved to Federal Way (Aug.), then Eugene (Sept.), then Sand Point (Oct.). Where was he prior to Aug. 2010 indeed.

    http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article25262425.html
    http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article25264570.html
    http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_99bd465c-d112-11df-abee-001cc4c03286.html

  43. erose says:

    2 Child Molesters Linked to Rasmuson Returned to State Hospital
    April 15, 1987|TERRY PRISTIN | Times Staff Writer

    http://articles.latimes.com/1987-04-15/local/me-277_1_state-hospitals

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