BREAKING NEWS: Jesse Matthew Abduction of Hannah Graham also linked to Morgan Harrington Murder
BREAKING NEWS- sources inside the investigation of both the murder of Morgan Dana Harrington and the abduction with the intent to defile of 2nd year student at UVA, Hannah Graham have confirmed to S. Christina Stoy, Editor in Chief of www.blinkoncrime.com that DNA belonging to Jesse Leroy Matthew, Jr matches the DNA link to that of a wanted suspect in the Harrington murder.
Further tests are being conducted to connect Mr. Matthew to a 2005 Fairfax sexual assault as well.
This is a developing story, please check back for updates.
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Thanks for your feedback on my comment B. My research was journalistic in nature and not from the penal code, Va law, nor from direct experience certainly. My only direct experience was dealing with sociopathic personalities on the psychiatric unit for 10yrs.
I read that because the charge was “a violent felony charge” (Hannah’s), swab could be taken, and this was something Chief Longo really wanted to do with or without accused consent. So I hope this has been done.
Thanks for your example of how this all can get fairly muddled up after a swab is obtained. Good grief.
If DNA was found in the apartment of accused, say hair from hairbrush or toothbrush, what would stop the defense lawyer from creating doubt by saying, well, someone else could have borrowed the hairbrush or, Someone could have used the tooth brush by accident? If a direct reference DNA sample was not obtained, it could cause doubt in minds of the jury. We really need that DNA as witnessed that it comes from said person.
DNA collection, extraction, amplification and testing parameters and protocol are a complex forensic explanation. It’s origin, whether or not it is DNA or mtDNA are also critical factors.
I could not even begin to go into that here, respectfully, there are hundreds of permutations.
DNA is not the nail in the coffin that I am aware some people think it is- and it most assuredly is not in any case currently under consideration regarding this suspected offender either. Depending on origin type, again, it is used to connect an individual to a crime or crime scene.
As the evidence is gleaned, it is interpreted in context and there is really no way to “suppose”.
B
I didn’t remember the drug bust and Mr. Poole’s name. We all in Charlottesville know about JADE, but in the 80′s I’m afraid I was much like a lot of the youngsters of today. If it didn’t affect me, I wasn’t interested. I’ll have to go back and read the articles. Glad others have been able to link the Daily Progress article. Very interesting and leads to questions about just what additional connection Jesse Matthew could have to Mr. Poole and/or his cronies. Sounds like there could have been some “housekeeping” going on during the past decade. I’m really, really beginning to think that the tentacles are going to reach beyond a single predator/serial killer even though it’s hard to think what could be worse.
Wow! Very, interesting reading, if the link doesn’t work, I found the article by using Google with the name Trevis Poole-http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/article_a44320c3-967d-50ae-8a16-f0dae15f26f5.
Any truth to this?
“Police searched Matthew’s apartment and found several of Graham’s possessions, including clothing, though Longo did not discuss the evidence against the suspect”
http://www.universityherald.com/articles/11937/20141008/hannah-graham-missing-person-investigation-no-reason-to-rush-case-against-jesse-matthew.htm#ixzz3FsECMVK9
No confirmation I am aware of. Lots of Liberty-based reporting I am seeing. It is the reason I have held off updating.
B
What is “Liberty-based reporting”?
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A deputy said they were looking for cell and shoes.
He omitted clothes.
Intentionally imo.
Inference, they had them.
likely inebriated Jesse removed
her shoes, & left them at the crime scene.
just like he was playing in the bar.
perhaps a ritual.
As in the writer used journalistic liberty in that piece, lol.
B
MsLiberty:
You said: Reading our local comments though, you would think by having a sketch, LE should have been able to walk right up to Jesse Matthew the day after the first one was released and slap him in jail.
I don’t think that’s an accurate representation of what has been said here. Rather, the opinion is that LE should have been able to connect the original sketch to cab and limo drivers in the area, eyeball them, interview them, and check their histories. The number matching Sketch would be pretty small, and from there he or they could be tailed and observed. Maybe DNA swabbed given enough evidence?
Agreed- if that were true there would be maybe a dozen men in jail and that is assuming the interpretation of sketch was solid- would never happen.
B
I can not seem to dismiss that I read in the very beginning that Cassandra Morton’s body was partially burned yet I can not find any MSM reference. Blink can you say that Cassandra was not partially burned or do you not know one way or the other. Did anyone else ever read this?
Not to my knowledge, Ode
B
dda
In regards to the years old street sign near the Shell gas station in C’ville. Having driven in most of the states and in Canada, I can say that in some places the street and highway signs are very obtuse. There are two causes for this; a person responsible for design of a sign and the person making the sign. If either does an improper job, it is not as it should be.
Since you know without a doubt that the sign is incorrect, be a good citizen by taking a photo of it and then send a letter to the person or department responsible for the sign to get it corrected. You might point out its possible relevance to Hannah’s confusion and subsequent disappearance. One never knows,but that could help save another from a crime.
In some earlier comments, Blink, there was discussion of JM’s behavior in terms of luring his victims by establishing some initial trust. You referenced the example of Morgan, Hannah as well as fairfax victim. The fairfax piece was news to me – my understanding was that it was a complete ‘stranger’ rape but your comment suggested that the victim had encountered the perpetrator beforehand and would have potentially trusted him? Did I interpret that correctly? What we know of the fairfax incident just doesn’t seem to fit the same profile but maybe there are some details that I am missing. Or maybe JLM learned from his mistakes and his approach shifted after that incident.
LC- excellent question. Yes, in fact, the 2005 sexual assault victim encountered her offender outside of a store, the offender mentioned he was waiting to give someone a ride (presumably inside). No details are mentioned as to why that occurs, but is presumed he asked her or she asked him for a ride- the victim spoke very little English as I understand it. The victim continued to walk to her temporary residence with her groceries. The exchange is important because it could be that JLM was testing his intended victim in his mind- establishing the lure, etc. Impossible to know for sure, but given what we know, now potentially about at least MH, HG and 2005- I am going to make the leap this was an MO.
B
a whacky thought from dreamland, that startled me awake. In addition
to sexual motivation with MH & HG, in hunting season is it
possible JLM had associates to whom he presented his trophy
as human prey for the field–literally meant. I suppose there are
video games using human prey. It does compute with the season
& an often used hunting field where prey might be left to lay. That
would be one reason for 1 or more others to be involved.
Cannot get my thoughts off of the found taxi, JM’s former employer and the farm. For starters, JM is waiting outside the venue and MH accepts a ride from him. He has her in the van/cab, now what?
At what point does she realize they are not going back to her residence. How does he then contain her? Does he take her somewhere else, or assault her in the van? If she is assaulted and killed in the van he must then drive around with a body and no trunk. What if he got pulled over. Does he wait and kill her at the farm? Can his van get to that location? Does he switch from the van to an ATV at the farm? Is she alive when they get to the farm? Does he then go to his employer and say he *must* buy the van? Does his employer know? Participate? Why would he put a van in his name knowing it has been involved in a crime? What farm did he abandon it on? Why would the farm owner let him leave a van there for years?
He owned the van. More on that later.
It is my personal opinion based on where her personals were found, that Morgan was attacked in the lot area, from behind as she approached returning from the bridge, where she turned back around to see where her ride was.
Excellent questions and thought process erose.
Did I mention he requested his Cabbie license rendered inactive in 2010? Sounds to me like somebody knew a profile or sketch might lead to him and his records. If so- I wonder if that was his own decision or advice from someone else?
B
2 of 3 Comments are relevant to Poole.
Interviewed last Thurs.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152694359860100&id=38601880099&refid=17
TY Blink…that is one search I will put to rest. The fire discussion must be influencing my thinking.
On another note I read yesterday that the painting dedicated to Morgan is titled ” The Hunted”. I always thought it was Girl in the Hayfield. See Blink’s article …not that she stated that or meant that it was just my thought process.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/16/two-years-cold-morgan-harrington-murder-two-women-two-locations-too-long/
This is just me thinking looking through the window in the box….would JLM work that title into his sick fantasy? Do you think he would even be aware of the painting? I think he would. Again it makes me think of Brightwood Cemetery on Hunter’s lane…sure hope someone, a local or hunter whatever checks in that area. Totally out there I know.
Yes Ode- “The Girl In The Hayfield” was my subtitle in the piece, and to this day it makes me smile lovingly that at the end, when Morgan left this world, she did so in such a beautifully honey-colored-flaxen paradise.
When Morgan’s Father visited AF- I will never forget what he told me. He said it was the most beautiful place he had seen for someone to die. I knew exactly what he meant. Jane Vance’s work is masterful at capturing the essence of that, in my humble non-art major opinion. It has never escaped me that Morgan was a burgeoning artist in her own right- although it was not on her list of career pursuits- she was incredibly talented.
From that land, that home, that essence, you have Mrs. Bass- whose work I also featured ( my favorite) and her oldest daughter is a Harvard educated (Phd) Art Professor. You have Morgan, and her inspiration to Ms. Vance.
I never want to be in a place professionally where I do not take the time to occasionally ruminate on the gift God gives us to takeaway something that gives us peace and hope. I have had to self-teach this at times, and definitely to BOC editors on occasion. If I did not, I do not believe any of us could sustain the very difficult side to this work.
The girl in the hayfield has always given me peace and hope in the times I needed her to- and veracious will to use my very non-artistic gifts and skills to find out who did this to her and bring that person or persons to justice. We will get there. There will not be an answer that reasonable and decent people understand or accept and when that happens- I invite y’all to think of the girl in the hayfield and what she taught us instead.
B
Don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but if you go to InsideCville.com you can read an article by Coy Barefoot on the timeline of offender’s whole day of activity before Hannah’s abduction. Very interesting. Coy Barefoot is our local investigative journalist.
Offender took a guy down on the floor in a supposed wrestling move and pulled the guys hamstring just hrs before he met up with Hannah.
He is an odd fellow. Heard from U V A grapevine that on his smoke breaks on the job at the hospital he would lay down on the ground in his scrubbs-lay down for 15 min outside and smoke. Then go back in and make patient contact.
B, thanks again for DNA explanation. It is very technical and complicated it would seem.
Per LCville post. Are we assuming he was driving the cab in Fairfax that day? I read his cab license was from 2005-2010. I have also read it started in 2007. If he was driving in Fairfax, was he driving legit. Or as a cover? Did he live up there then? Interesting.
Rose
As always, you look for meaningful reasons regarding behavior.
After reading your posts, I thought about how a house cat that spends most of its time out of doors will bring a mouse or a bird to show its owner how it can hunt. These displays always include the re-enactment of the capture including the chase provided the prey can attempt to get away.
If JM actually does this, there is no doubt that others are involved and the entire group represent total evil.
Sometimes it is hard to face the fact that such behavior is possible.
Rose says:
October 12, 2014 at 2:25 am
I suppose there are
video games using human prey. It does compute with the season
& an often used hunting field where prey might be left to lay. That
would be one reason for 1 or more others to be involved.
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Are you familiar with the term “extreme pornography?”
My dearest Blink,
Just thinking- There was a reward for $ 150,000.00 dollars for inf. and finding Morgan and now $ 100,000.00 for Hannah: that is a lot of money.
A. JM – either acted alone-but somebody had to know or suspicious.
B. This predator is connected to other people (friends in high places).
C. Or very loyal friends/scared of being pulled into these tragedies.
I am not familiar with rewards for leads, etc. so could I have your professional opinion on this?
Part of the problem with rewards is that when they are given to anyone for doing exactly what they asked- they are never publicized- even in a way that can maintain a person’s anonymity. I should probably do some serious research on rewards offered that have actually been paid out. I already know that they are very few and far between.
The other problem is many times, they are not posted correctly. I have seen this frequently- HOWEVER this is not the case in either Morgan or Hannah’s rewards- but the criteria is different for both.
OR.. the methods used to submit a tip applicable for a reward do not match.
I want to believe that rewards work- but in my professional experience I have not seen them be impactful.
B
Blink says – “Yes, in fact, the 2005 sexual assault victim encountered her offender outside of a store, the offender mentioned he was waiting to give someone a ride (presumably inside).”
Very interesting. I think the reason he said this was to try to establish trust and he may have done the same thing with HG. If the women believe he has a ‘friend’ inside that he is going to give a ride to then they may feel he is harmless and really just trying to help. As I mentioned in another post- I think JM told Hannah he has friends inside Tango (which I believe he did have acquaintances). He probably told her he was going to give some of ‘his friends’ a ride home because they were hammered (aw how nice of him to be the designated driver, she’s thinking) and he would drive her to safety too. Well, he never had any intention of giving anyone else a ride home but she felt a little more comfort thinking he had friends in Tango that he was going to take home, he is responsible and just wants to help. AJMO as it seems like his MO.
I have weird thoughts about Travis Poole…..old cvillian…that case back in the 80s was a very big deal…like it was federal I believe…so he is recently convicted on assault chgs?he owned access CSB and did not notice the resemblance of this annoyingpushy gentle giant who was called out for giving pretty girls free rides…also offered cheap massages…said he was in massage school…that would be the ted Bundy school of massage…since I have become completely absorbed by this case….dome research I did said that to hide traces of a victim…breaking all their bones…eradicating teeth…face etc..sorry…this is truly awful…so my bones were destroyed…makes sense now…is it a fact that she was also decapitated….back to the trophy idea….Poole….extreme porn??? it is tough to swallow that sweet(formerly) little oil ville is so toxic…and of course he was a”star”athlete…hence given every form of forgiveness and denial…..seems like if you ate a politician..teacher..coach…athlete…priest….hiding in plain sight under a cloak of absurd set importance….Poole…I keep coming back yo this mean
Olivia, sorry I didn’t mean to upset or criticize you or anyone else posting here. When I referred to local, I wasn’t referring to people from the area who post here, but rather people who post comments on sites originating in Charlottesville, mainly our news websites. Some of them are far off the wall. Just recently, one individual seemed to go so far as to indicate that he/she thinks Hannah is back in the United Kingdom.
I don’t know how much store to put in anything reported other than what comes from official sources. It could very well be that there is information known to people outside of LE that the authorities do not want made public therefore they discount what is released. Or, it could be that some people just want to insinuate themselves in the story. It’s obvious from reading local comments (NOT BOC COMMENTS) that several people can read the same story, even statements coming directly from official sources, and have totally different versions on what was stated
No. but Jesse & others might be.
given the depravity of his crimes,
associated depraved behavior
would not be surprising and could
point to location.
@Blink. Do you know if a computer, hard drive,
or videos were seized under warrant?
I know that warrants were executed on all of his email accounts and social media sites, etc, and that trap &trace of the most sophisticated variety were extended to family members, but I have no source willing to discuss exactly what electronics were seized or from where.
B
Also in response to Olivia, I have no idea how many taxi services there are in Charlottesville so I have no idea how many people are licensed to be cabbies. I do know, given the anger that brewed in some of the AA community and the threat of lawsuit(s)resulting from the request from black males for DNA samples during the terror reign of the serial rapist, LE is probably very hesitant to even suggest a DNA sample without a court order. Even knowing Jesse Matthew was in the company of Hannah the night she disappeared, I really think they came within hours of him being out of reach because the CA didn’t think there was enough evidence to have him arrested. I really would like to know, and maybe it will come out during the initial hearing, what evidence came to light in order to obtain search warrants for his car and apartment given the hesitancy on part of the CA.
I want to contribute this article I just found about Poole. It is scary that he had been arrested for assault in November 2011.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/crime/cab-drivers-questioned-about-missing-student/article_8b38e055-925b-5247-baa2-0be92eb5ba6f.html
and also, no matter how many times i watch the video with the white guy stepping behind the corner, it creeps me out!
@Starbucks..They took several bags out of his apartment, so I am guessing they picked up some “evidence”. Morgans necklace was never found either and I wonder if they found that in his possession.
Ode says:
October 12, 2014 at 9:54 am
Blink says:
The girl in the hayfield has always given me peace and hope in the times I needed her to- and veracious will to use my very non-artistic gifts and skills to find out who did this to her and bring that person or persons to justice. We will get there. There will not be an answer that reasonable and decent people understand or accept and when that happens- I invite y’all to think of the girl in the hayfield and what she taught us instead.
B
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Blink, I am reading your words picturing in my mind’s eye how beautiful that farm is, that golden hayfield is….and then it hit me. Bear with me on this because I do not usually “go there” with monsters who commit these heinous acts – but, in his last act with Morgan, did he choose a beautiful place to put a beautiful girl?
If so, it says something about his particular profile as a potential serial offender.
Location. Location. Location.
He may have Grace- certainly. What I am sure of without reservation is that he placed her where he did purposefully, and to make a statement, and there was nothing random about his choice of location, location, location. Agreed that motivation will provide great insight to profile.
B
I was wondering if he put her somewhere beautiful, peaceful, etc. because he felt remorse immediately after killing her. Mr. Harrington’s statement seems to indicate that Morgan was still alive when she was left at Anchorage Farm–is that true? I have not heard that before and iirc, Gil once wrote that Morgan was dumped there like “trash” or something along those lines, which I always took to mean that she was already deceased before being put there. Is this information that has been held back but can now be released?
Also, if it is remorse, or some form of remorse, it is reminiscent to me of hunters claiming to feel a bond with an animal they have just killed. I cannot fathom such an emotion but I know people who claim to.
My personal opinion on Dr. Harrington’s thoughts have to do with her autopsy protocol which has not been made public so I will not be commenting on “it” specifically, but generally.
In nearly skeletonized remains with broken and fractured bones such as Morgan’s a great deal of study ( anthro) is given to them in terms of developing a post mortem interval or PMI. Within that analysis and examination a forensic anthropologist is going to to be able to determine whether those particular injuries occurred ante mortem, peri mortem or post mortem.
If Dr. Harrington was basing his commentary on something he learned from that report- my guess is that there was a mix of ante mortem and peri mortem injuries to Morgan. In short, based on the findings it is likely that Morgan suffered her injuries in a way that was consistent with how found, how she was recovered, which could lead to a theory or conclusion she was attacked and died in the same location.
Additionally, in my mind, based on her injuries there is a presumption that Morgan fought back violently.
From a profile perspective as Grace pointed out, it is possible he put the pretty girl in the pretty field- however, she was also sans socks, boots, leggings, shirt so for me, anyone stumbling upon her soon after her placement would think automatically this was a sexually motivated homicide and therein lies the conflict about how an offender would “stage” her. In a remorseful rapist, rarely does one see the level of brutality we have seen with 2005 and Morgan, and honestly, it is rare for that profile to murder their victims. A remorseful offender is generally going to look to hide that crime from view, and from himself if that makes sense, make it look like an accident ( it was in his mind) not cavalierly lay her nearly naked brutalized body in a field leaving little to the imagination as to what happened to her- had she been found quickly.
That said, in criminal behavioral analysis the number rule is that the exception can always be the rule.
B
With regard to the subject of hunting and prey-it made me think of the movie
“Kiss The Girls” adapted from a novel by James Patterson.
profile from an amateur
Serial killer progression-fire starting in the formative years? Also peeping in the formative years? Peeping goes to rape and rape to murder. He seemed to have large appetites, liked to hurt people under the guise of not meaning to, and really took liberties with people in general, not respecting personal space. Not caring about others feelings in conducting every day life, and worse when fueled by alcohol. Real night owl. Showed two sides, depending on which one would accomplish gains. Possibly molestedearly in life. Viewed world in black and white terms. Good or bad. Religion and bible or hell fire. The great hope of the family. Football and wrestling extraordinaire. Smart and cunning, but could come across as slow so he would be underestimated. At times would get desperately remorseful and possibly suicidal, due to the rigid values of upbringing. Especially after he would explode with rage. But because of obsessive-compulsive nature would give in to his large appetites again and again. Learned something from every bad deed, so as to not get caught or have a body found. Concerned about family legacy and reputation on mothers side. Father was embarrassment. He was supposed to make up for his father’s failings, but it was’nt happening, so more reason for rage. Maybe rage at successful college students, as he goes downhill. Very possessive and domineering with girlfriend that caused her ultimate rejection and fear of him. More rage at many rejections fron people over the years who can’t tolerate being around him. No close friends. College students symbolize his antipathy.
Hope for normal life becomes less and less as OC grows. Underlying sociopathic personality disorder with a lot of narcissistic tendencies. Takes liberties everywhere. He’s special. He rules. But underneath is inadequacy.
Blink, I saw this past week there was a controlled burn at Shenandoah National Park. If JLM is a burner, could he have used a similar burn to hide HG? If that was him that was seen in Lexington the week after she disappeared, were there any fires reported in the city or Rockbridge County? I know that that area is home to a Boy Scout reservation and the Washington National Forest.
If you mean burn her remains- no. I do not believe it was him in Lexington County
B
Emailed you.
xoxo
B
I am one of a few outliers who is not convinced that LJM is a serial killer. The MH case is riddled with inconsistencies but of the few facts that do seem to hold water on the 2009 cold case, can we see JLM doing these things:
AF– this location for finding MH is so unique LE thinks it helps profile the perp and significantly narrows the pool of subjects. It has been stated here that a 4×4 was required to access the spot or that he must have carried her in which is not impossible. LJM drove a mini van as taxi in 2009. I cannot see how that vehicle could handle the terrain. Did he carry her a longer distance? That seems risky.
He has access to alternative vehicles, obviously, but there are several areas in particular he could have parked undetected. Both the Bass’s and Rosentiel et al were out of town that weekend.
Pantera tee on Campus- That very clearly was sending a message to LE. Do we see LJM engaging in this sort of arrogant behavior? This does not match the LJM who fled to Texas. Not at all.
Not on campus, nobody thinks he planted it himself.
LJM seemed to know a lot of people in the UVA community. I find it highly unlikely that one witness would have not noticed him or his cab around the arena that night or talked about how he asked to see the toes of at least half a dozen attractive girls.
MH was described as exhibiting erratic behavior that night. She was described as aggressive. I think LJM would have been wary of her demeanor; she did not come across as needing to be rescued. This is the South. No way is an affluent, white girl with her pedigree willingly accepting a ride with a lone black male on a desolate road at any time of day or night. This too makes little sense given she had turned down multiple offers of help just outside of the arena.
Morgan was injured inside the arena. I interviewed a witness who I believe is credible that she was standing on the end of a chair/steps trying to see or take a picture and she fell up the steps, cutting her chin. She made her way to the ladies room and dabbed it with a paper towel but VSP did confirm she was injured. It is my personal opinion that Morgan may have suffered a concussion from that fall- and I believe she headed outside to vomit. What desolate road are you talking about? Morgan was very upset – and this is the part that gets difficult because I know that her friends never intended anything bad to happen to her.
That said, Dr. Harrington paid for those tickets, paid for the gas for Morgan to drive, they drove HER CAR and those aholes sat in that concert ..wait for it… till the end, then went out to eat- they said hopeful that she would make contact. THEN they drive back to JMU and do absolutely nothing. Do ya think that flicking a blue phone was too much to ask for? Or my personal fave. Sarah Snead dressed as a zombie chugging booze at Morgan/Amy apartment a few weeks later while Morgan was rotting in the field. There’s something seriously wrong with that girl. Morgan was scheduled to travel to Africa the following Summer, iirc, I daresay the girl was not afraid of a black cab driver.
Finally, MH’s killer seems a more sterotypical fit for a serial murderer profile. The communicating with LE through MH’s shirt, the posing/placement of her body in a remote field where he had to know the idiosyncracies of harvesting on that farm… Really? JLM is so obviously not their man. None of this adds up. As for DNA links we know it can be manipulated. It was here even that someone suggested that the Pantera shirt with DNA of AA male was planted. Again, LJM doing this? Why?
1. Not to be glib- but he has not killed enough people yet to be called a serial killer. There is a very specific baseline definition for that, established by the FBI BAU. Technically speaking without confirmation or criminal incident specifics for either suspected or known crimes, he isn’t serial anything. That said, I am ok to go out on the limb of serial offender and serial rapist. I suspect he has a grab bag of paraphillias. I also suspect that the level of brutality of his victims has more to do with their form of defense and his inability to “act out” then his need to kill anyone.
2. Planting DNA on the shirt she was wearing on a bush in view of his walk route/employer weeks after Morgan went missing, A DAY after a VSP sponsored search at Pantops and make NO mistake about this- it WAS NOT found on the 11th. I am not comfortable thinking JLM plants evidence against himself either- but that means that someone knew who it belonged to and the significance to Morgan’s case and to JLM and wanted LE to know as well.
General note here- everyone wants to profile a suspect we know almost nothing about- cannot be done. No individual trained to profile an offender ( I am one) with such little confirmed information. Do I see typical pattern formations developing? of course.
Add to that my very strong sense that JLM did not work alone, at least not every time.
Why is there no such trail for Hannah? If LJM has been stalking and killing for years, why would he choose a popular area teeming with security cameras? He would first buy an obviously incapacitated HG another drink to make them further stand out to witnesses? And leave a paper trail at a bar? This is not the behavior of MH’s killer.
I would offer that if there was so much trail, she would be found. The MAJOR difference between HG investigation and Morgan’s is that IMMEDIATELY investigators beat the street, got all available footage before it had been looped and dedicated the resources to review it immediately- this opened up a firehose line to the media and public asking for help. In no uncertain terms does Chief Longo deserve anything short of an award for the swiftness with which he handled the lead generation process in this case or I highly doubt we would even know who the hell LJ Matthew is.
Finally, LJM’s co-workers laugh at how uncanny a match he is to sketch and not one sees the $100,00 reward and calls the FBI tip line? Yeah, okay.
There are literally thousands of men in the Cville, Fairfax area that resemble sketch. Even if when sketch first came out, his previous colleagues put 2 and 2 together as a possibility, considering some say they were interviewed them- people of the ilk are not heading to VSP with a hunch. It should also be noted that “sketch” was extemely hard to come by – I have a great network of locals to include some in the North Garden area and I can tell you as fast as they would put one up- it would be down in hours.
That said, even LJ’s own grandmother said she recognized her grandson immediately from that tape- now there, I would be surprised to learn that LE did not receive tips from co-workers
I can’t provide proof, but something is very off. Is there some sort of political pressure to get a conviction in these cases? I sense there is a person with a lot of clout being protected or involved.
Skoorbet- me above in bold.
B
Does he have any other ties to AF, in particular? Or is it just that area?
Yes and yes to the overall area.
B
Blink, by putting MH in the hayfield he risked her being found by Mr. Bass much sooner than she was. With a property of that size, Mr. Bass or anyone employed by him could have been out there at any time. That is why it always struck me as odd that he put her there. Did he do it to cast suspicion on the Bass family or their employees?
I so hope that the family of Hannah has some answers soon. I cannot begin to imagine their anguish.
I can tell you that right now, my thoughts are that is a very distinct possibility.
In other words, it was accidental that she was not found quickly- thus my opinion this was a statement location.
what continues to be incredible to me as I think about it, is that Matthew continued behavior after it was announced that sketch was AA, and his DNA was tied to both cases. He literally was out nearly every evening downtown, out and about. Typically an offender with that hanging over his head will go underground, move, lay very low, etc.
B
The precise farm location suggests these events
are as likely stirred by the juices
flowing from hunting season as
football. And, a violent rapist could be a
porn user.
I wonder what informal well-intended
posters, not issued by LE,
which name the suspect,
with statements like “you may have been fooled,”
with a guarantee of anonymity,
and what wide dissemination
may mean for a solid prosecution.
what continues to be incredible to me as I think about it, is that Matthew continued behavior after it was announced that sketch was AA, and his DNA was tied to both cases. He literally was out nearly every evening downtown, out and about. Typically an offender with that hanging over his head will go underground, move, lay very low, etc.
B
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Not only didn’t he go underground, he reportedly was a regular feature of the Downtown Mall. For those unfamiliar with Charlottesville, the headquarters of the Charlottesville PD is situated right off the mall at the east end. And the Charlottesville federal building is just a block off the mall on the west end.
He not only raped but he brutally murdered Morgan. Broke her bones. He is a monster. No mercy. What is his mother saying? Has she made any kind of statement? Does she know that her son is an animal? A brutal killer?
I can’t believe he is not telling where he put Hannah. Can’t they make him talk?
His Mother went to the police station with him. Mrs. Matthew has been quite effective at dodging several requests for interviews
B
what continues to be incredible to me as I think about it, is that Matthew continued behavior after it was announced that sketch was AA, and his DNA was tied to both cases. He literally was out nearly every evening downtown, out and about. Typically an offender with that hanging over his head will go underground, move, lay very low, etc.
B
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This amazes me as well. And, with the sketch all over the place, and a reward. It’s almost like he KNEW that no one would ever think it was him. I guess it shows how cocky he is, which I think is also evident in his approach. He was very calm, unassuming, and patient as he approached his prey, like he had no concerns. He was soft spoken, well known, coached football, nurses’s aid, provided rides, etc. He probably even got “teased” about looking like Sketch.
Do you think that the dog Blanca’s death in the fire at the rented Sutherland Road house was accidental or purposeful? I can’t help but think that IF the fire was arson and was an attempt to destroy a crime scene or evidence, that the dog could have been knowingly and purposefully killed in the fire.
Blink’s revelation that the dog was found in the room in which the fire originated makes me think that Blanca was trapped in that room (otherwise her body might have been found elsewhere in the house, as she likely would have tried to escape or hide). What are the unfortunate chances of her being locked in the room in which the “faulty wiring” lay? Additionally, locking her in the room in which the fire started would pretty much guarantee her death, even if the fire didn’t destroy the entire structure as intended.
Bottom line: A dog dying in a fire might help convince the public and authorities that said fire was indeed “accidental”… because who would purposefully kill a dog? (Obvious answer to that question is: someone who also has no problem killing people.)
No idea- in my view, if one sets a fire with knowledge there are people and a pet inside, it is all intentional. I don’t know that the door was locked- just that she was located in the room of origin. She may very well have died of smoke anhilation in her sleep. I like to hope that.
To your point- I have studied profiles of violent predators and killers who were very kind to pets- and those that were anything but. I think it is based on the individual characteristics of the offender.
I say that as my Harper Weston is lying across the tops of my feet under my desk. Sickens me to think about who could do a thing like that.
B
I never realized the proximity from his employer to the shirt find.
Could his cab have been being cleaned out and someone found under seat or in trunk, et al.? If so, someone at that cab company had a little more than suspicion regarding the likeness of JLM to sketch…
Rose says:
October 13, 2014 at 11:04 am
The precise farm location suggests these events
are as likely stirred by the juices
flowing from hunting season as
football. And, a violent rapist could be a
porn user.
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I became interested in the hunting angle because of Mrs. Harrington’s references to hunting as well as the picture painted by her former teacher. Apparently, JM’s childhood home in North Garden was adjacent to the Rivanna Rifle and Pistol Club. So perhaps there is something to that– I am not big on the football angle, either.
Re porn– we know that Randy Taylor bought porn videos in Charlottesville just prior to the disappearance of Alexis Murphy. I have read different versions of how exactly the FBI discovered that.
Or this:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/01/27/morgan-harrington-murder-helpful-hunters-may-hunt-her-killer/
I wrote this the day after Morgan was recovered on AF.
B
Was Earlysville road area searched for Hannah? Seems like the logical place to look seeing as he lived near there. I’ve seen no report of it or the water (I think that water is the reservoir) being searched. It’s an area he was about to leave per stories that he was about to move out of that apartment. He could leave Hannah behind too. Also, I’m sorry to be so gruesome but why do you think a farmer like Mr. Bass would not have noticed buzzards flying over Morgan’s body? Any chance she was put there long past her decomposing stage? In my personal opinion, JLM is a nature lover, he likes to fish, he placed Morgan in a beautiful field on a large farm, he ran to hide by the sea, in a tent. I believe Hannah will be found in nature such as in a body of water rather than hidden. We have to keep looking, she is out there somewhere, waiting to be found.
@Skoprbet.
wrt “I am one of a few outliers who is not convinced that LJM is a serial killer.”
I daresay thoughtful lay analysts on this thread are not ready to state JLM is a
serial killer. Not a matter of convincing–that’s for the trial phase.
I myself can say JLM was a serial collegiate sexual assault opportunist
because there was enough evidence for 2 colleges’ student adjudication
processes to expell him.
I can say he was the last person seen with HG, physically
controlling her, on the night she disappeared.
I await further evidence.
I can say after retaining an A+ decense attorney, he coukd not
have followed his advice–and ran away.
My inference is he did so because while he cooled his heels for
hours in the PD, someone mentioned Morgan would also
be a questioning subject to him. I would not be surprised if the dna link
was back by then.
Since that time, he has been forensically linked via dna to Morgan & a
violent rape attempt. Maybe he just drives the cab for the Real Killer/Rapist, but
I feel it inaccurate to claim I or others here have reduced him to a
serial killer in a bow-wrapped package.
VSP was tailing him, not Cville, is my understanding. I believe they actually backed off because they had successful warrants to surveill family members et al- and the thought process on that might be if we cut him loose, he just went to his atty, will he lead us to the remains if we drop back a bit.
He knows the area best in Albemarle, and he is a statement guy, imo, he knew or suspected he would be the target early. So- if it worked alone, with that in mind he was telling himself either I can put her where she will never be found because I do not want another tie to harrington, OR.. he is thinking I must put her where it reduces my visibility. Like, say, at a friend or look-alike’s property.
B
Grace
Mr. Bass was in his eighties. What his physical condition actually was at the time of Morgan’s abduction is not known. When the storms came through and knocked down trees and destroyed fences, Mr. Bass took his tractor, one that I would never have used on that farm, and rode the fence lines. The tractor was a narrow wheel front for using in row crops rather than a more safe wide wheel. People that are Mr. Bass’s age can be anything from partially mobile requiring assistance to healthy and strong. Those that are healthy and strong comprise a small percentage of that age group. I know that from personal experience.
This inspection was 100 days after Morgan disappeared. The first thing VSP should have done was to acknowledge that Morgan had been abducted and make a public announcement for any Video footage and ask all land owners to walk their fence lines. They should have organized a group of people to assist in getting all fence lines inspected. Had that been done, she would likely been found in two weeks.
This time, JM is quite aware that he is dealing with LE that is much more into getting aswers. He was bold with Morgan and initially with Hannah, but soon found himself exposed with Hannah. That is the prime reason he is in jail and will not be allowed bond because he ran.
I also think that JM’s family knew what he was into for a long time. Some of them were people who were christians. Some in that family were protecting him. His sister loaning her car and perhaps she was the one who placed the envelope. She may have also provided him with funds or a credit card to purchase food and gasoline when he ran.
It is a cultural thing in some families that live on the edge of the law to not turn a member in to LE for suspected behavior.
Just watched an interview with Coy Barefoot on CNN who has been interviewing people that were in contact with JM. He said he had just finished talking to one of JM’s friends/acquaintances who was a bouncer at a local bar. He said he had to ban JM from the bar for a few months because he was afraid for the safety of the girls in the bar. Said JM would always show up around last call and would find the drunkest girl in the bar. The friend said Jesse had a type- blonde, upper middle class, a college girl. Frightening.
Here is Coy’s facebook page- https://www.facebook.com/coybarefoot?fref=ts he links his articles and radio shows on here. This interview he just gave was on Wolf Blitzer.
@Skooterbet.
wrt “I would offer that if there was so much trail, she would be found”
Trail stopped at the last camera & witness.
No gps was on the anonymous unnamed abductor’s vehicle.
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I knew there was a reason “serial killer” did not ring true to me.
It rang as inflammatory & adversarial, sorry. What is called a “straw man”
B said:
“he has not killed enough people yet to be called a serial killer. There is a very specific baseline definition for that, established by the FBI BAU. Technically speaking without confirmation or criminal incident specifics for either suspected or known crimes, he isn’t serial anything. That said, I am ok to go out on the limb of serial offender and serial rapist. I suspect he has a grab bag of paraphillias. I also suspect that the level of brutality of his victims has more to do with their form of defense and his inability to “act out” then his need to kill anyone.”
This statement rings true.
DISCUSSION:
During the 2008-09 hunting season, the Albemarle County Sheriff’s Office checked a total of 123 hunters with 59 of these checks resulting from calls from concerned citizens. Of the 59 calls received from citizens, 21 were complaints of trespassing, 21 were shots fired/heard by land owners, 12 were complaints of road hunting, and 5 were complaints of spot lighting. Twenty-seven (27) summonses were issued for illegal hunting during this period by the Sheriff’s Office and a 96.4 percent conviction rate was achieved in the prosecution of these violations. In addition to work performed by the Sherriff’s Office, the state game warden’s office received 41 calls for service during this period. The Sheriff’s Office also engaged in special operations utilizing decoys, stake outs and increased patrols in known trouble areas of the County. Collectively, enforcement activities included 56 shifts during a 14 day period and a total of 515 staff hours which aided in ensuring compliance with state and county hunting laws.
http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/Forms_Center/Departments/Board_of_Supervisors/Forms/Agenda/2009Files/20090603/GameEnforcementES.htm
Those cameras can be used for many things. For example, landowners and LEA’s could use camera for the purposes of watching areas where hunters frequent and should not be. The question I have is if there was an unawareness of the hunter’s cameras (just like the mall cameras) or if this was done “for the cameras.”
My guess is that he is a very opportunistic character and found AH the best opportunity that night. Entered by way of one of the Blandemar farm entrances.
Reward is for “safe return” of Hannah. Don’t know what “safe” means, but if it means alive, I doubt that’s the case.
Accused is not talking. R Taylor tried to make a deal. Reveal where the Murphy girl’s body is and get reduced sentence. Murphy family said no deal and rot in jail for life. He tried to play on the family’s vulnerabilities. Family did not cave. I say good for them. Their beloved one is gone. That’s it.
Is Camblos a court appointed attorney? If not who is footing the bill? These families that sacrifice everything-take out 2nd mortgages, empty out their 401 K’s, to fund court fees etc for these sociopaths. All I can say is love is blind. But you would think logically that the relatives know the person better than anyone. That they of anyone would know deep down inside, deep down inside of their loved one’s potential of evil. They witness the formation of that personality, the premorbid behaviors growing up that make them wonder, make them doubt. It is hard to face that something evil would be born of you.
So many of these sociopaths deny their crimes to their dying day. They need at least one person to hold on and believe in them. They also need money for the canteen and stamps.
Maybe the fire was intentionally set knowing the dog will perish as a sign to the humans……. not to talk or else!