Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes

I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010.    Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past,  I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another.   This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases.    I am proud of that.  I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.

Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom,  Terri Horman.   Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey.    Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child.    There are dozens of sources,  collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.

Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did.  I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping.  Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode.    When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her,   I most certainly respected that.  I still do.

While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure,   I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth.  There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions.     Not what I signed on for.   A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience.   He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.

I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil.   I appreciate your patience and your understanding.   Feel free to discuss the show below.

 

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  1. T. Ruth says:

    O/T

    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/04/devonte_hart_family_crash_dece.html

    So damn sad! Story gets worse, the more we know. Perhaps some lawmakers will try to pass some kind of a law for a national registry now. Too bad it takes something like this to get the job done.

  2. Rose says:

    Mondays NYT crosswords are the easiest, though I cheat other days by googling.
    Tonight the Q was : “Big school event attended by parents.” Answer: “Science Fair.”
    I reflected on how these associations “big event” & “attended by parents”
    are culturally automatic with “science fair.” The kidnapper chose an event
    when the presence of many parents (as cover or as titilating factor?)
    was guaranteed. That strikes me as an odd planning choice. It does mean he
    KNEW Teri would be at the school.

    Unfortunately the age of this case causes one trained to analyze from an offender perspective to “color outside the lines.” I think I have mentioned before I truly believe this case would be best served by (for the purposes of “trying on” investigative theory at a minimum) the exact strategy we investigative analysts are trained NOT to use in order to follow where the evidence leads- nothing else. In a case where the only evidence (per se) I am aware of exculpates TMH from taking Kyron from the school, and inculpates an unknown male- I say its in order. I have had agreement in this thinking over the years with colleagues that will likely forget more about this type of casework than I will ever learn. That should mean something if the true and singular goal is to locate this child. It continues to make zero sense to me why this approach is not paramount outside of the fact that nobody within MCSO directly has the training individually to develop it- they most certainly had/have the resources ad nauseum.

    If you have not watched it, an EXCELLENT BBC series called The Missing (season 1) about a boy missing from Holiday is an exceptional “case study” on how even the most seasoned and senior investigators can get it wrong, regroup and ultimately close their case. I don’t want to give away the plot (and the journey as it were) or temper anyone’s take away so that’s all I will say.

  3. Rose says:

    @Blink. For 2 women living off the grid in rural WA, $27,000/yr is pretty good esp when you don’t much feed them or have school or extracurricular expenses. Less has been a motivator for many a foster parent. Apparently Sarah worked while the alpha parent stayed home. Staying home was most likely one feature of her mental illness, & when society encroached again, she fled & couldn’t face the outside world. Imo she thought it kind & necessary to include the rest in her suicide.

    I can’t disagree Rose. At the end of the day- the system failed these children that were put in their care- fatally.
    God be with them.
    B

  4. Rose says:

    @erose. A great CPS supervisor was from Seattle (&U Wash has a great Sch of Social Work or did). I once settled there for a year but there was a State freeze on hiring. A tribute: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/leba-berman-90-kept-youthful-spirit/

  5. Rose says:

    While adoptions are final, it would be very simple for State legislatures to enact stops on postadoption special needs payments in the event of either founded abuse complaints (suspension pending review) OR convictions (as w/Harts) in which event payment termination is merited because care is not provided. That might result in voluntary abrogations of adoption. Special needs adoptees should be the last to suffer more abuse.

  6. Rose says:

    @Tiberious. You certainly went the 2nd & 3rd mile & too bad local LE/CPSD failed the child. In the Hart story it seems to me neighbors & friends & teachers did everything right & also were protective. There were LE & family Court institutional failures, which comes down to human beings. 1) Sarah should not have been allowed to plea to what the child said Jen did, 2) the plea agreement should have allowed cps access to interview children privately to age 18. That is, a cps case should’ve stayed open post probation. 3) the mn court or dhs should’ve notified TX of the conviction transmitting letters formally thru the InterState Compact office of each State, 4) a policeman accompanied the cps worker to interview the children in West Linn. Worst interviewers ever award. Bet they didn’t even get the talkative alpha kids alone. I wish the neighbors seeing the 1:30 am girl with no front teeth had called police then & there, tho I wouldn’t have either, being startled. And then Woodland is rural & the 2 am responder likely would’ve been a sap & deferred to the parents. But a police report would’ve been documented. That’s just what you tried to do.
    ———
    for the housebound-by-choice Jen, cps involvement when the kids were old enough to speak, & Devonte the voluble one was “famous” with police thus credible, meant the likely loss of kids, TX $, but also Sarah’s income if she again pled. Jen knew she was losing all income streams, and the Calif couple similarly situatedwere both locked up for life.

  7. Rose says:

    @TRuth. re “Perhaps some lawmakers will try to pass some kind of a law for a national registry now. ” (of persons with a physical child abuse conviction). After all, convicted sex offenders are registered when a Court so orders. This would have to be Federal legislation. While OR/WA Senators & Congressmen have this prime case, & by using it could appeal to black constituencies, Wyden & Merkel only bloviate about certain types of causes & legislation, & this isn’t in their ballpark.

  8. Rose says:

    @erose. You saw the 911 call for a household check? (which is puzzling; should be youth detectives on call). here’s the worker: https://fortress.wa.gov/dshs/ca/EmployeeDirectory/Employee/Detail?hrmsPersonnelNumber=20110367
    puzzling as a woman of this name was getting a PhD in this field in Ark, & is also assoc w/WSU’s culture, race, gender ctr. If all the same lady, she was overqualified to handle this family. Don’t deal out Wash.!

  9. A Texas Grandfather says:

    The Hart case is a prime example of why there should be zero adoptions in any state where there is not a known stable relationship between a married man and a woman. IMO two men do not make a family and neither do two women. Boys and girls in a family need the interaction on a daily basis with a real mother-female and real father-male.

    The moral and social deradation of society in the last fifty years has put all children and adults at risk for bad behaviors.

    I am posting this because it is your right to express your opinion. I know you to be a conservative, traditional family man who is educated, kind and very proud and protective of his family (all generations). For the most part, I agree with the nuclear family concept from the perspective of the “the childs interest standard”. However, we have to acknowledge that issue in and of itself has also produced some serious nightmares that have been rectified by more non conventional households. I think it is best for us as a society to (if we are to) Judge parenting partnerships per se- that we do so on an individual and not general basis. That said, whether one agrees with your position on the parenting front- I don’t see how anyone can disagree with the last statement.
    B

  10. T. Ruth says:

    Not sooo off topic:

    Zukerberg:

    “But it’s clear now that we didn’t do enough to prevent these tools from being used for harm as well. That goes for fake news, foreign interference in elections, and hate speech, as well as developers and data privacy. We didn’t take a broad enough view of our responsibility, and that was a big mistake. It was my mistake, and I’m sorry. I started Facebook, I run it, and I’m responsible for what happens here.

    So now we have to go through every part of our relationship with people and make sure we’re taking a broad enough view of our responsibility. It’s not enough to just connect people, we have to make sure those connections are positive. It’s not enough to just give people a voice, we have to make sure people aren’t using it to hurt people or spread misinformation. ”
    (snipped)
    https://www.komando.com/happening-now/450243/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-to-face-the-music-in-front-of-congress

    Spreading misinformation and hate speech. I find it interesting that he’s even bringing this up here. Almost like he’s anticipating a federal crackdown not just on the loss of people’s personal data and privacy, but a crackdown on the hate-mongers, such as the one’s we’ve become familiar with in this case.

    Btw, I think I heard on the news somewhere the other day that one of those dark web sites (Backpage?) was finally taken down. Good riddance!

    ************
    erose, nice to hear from you, even though the “black eye” flag gives me chills. I think all our states are probably not doing as much as we should and a national database and mandatory inter-state reporting should be standard. I do recall, years ago now, looking at the Washington State missing children’s site, and IIRC a majority of the missing were foster children, which again, makes me wonder about accountability in following up on these kids.

    I forget which article I was reading about the Hart *family*, but I recall one of the services saying something about they couldn’t release the information because of child protection laws or hippa or something, and I was like, WHO are they REALLY protecting by not releasing the information? I mean, after all, the children are all deceased. Just seems to be yet another CYA to me.

    Isn’t it always amazing that instead of it being the “right and humane” thing- that it comes down to litigation and damages to effect policy. Hate speech and targeted bullying are actual crimes with plenty of case law to back that up-

    I am actually familiar with at least 2 open and 1 solved homicide case (1 is serial homicide) where that backpage site was used to coordinate “meet ups” of subsequent victims. In my view, once a site like that has effectively become an instrument of crime, it should allow for LE access and permissions that are historically very difficult to subpoena. Criminals will always find a way to commit crimes- we don’t have to make it easier for them, imo.
    B

  11. T. Ruth says:

    https://www.pdxmonthly.com/articles/2018/3/30/at-last-the-portland-to-coast-salmonberry-trail-gets-the-green-light

    I watched a news report on this wannabe-trail the other nite and immediately thought of Kyron and the truck driver who said he recognized a kid in a grey pickup as being Kyron while somewhere near Salmonberry Rd. turnoff.
    The photos for whatever reason, leave me with a haunting feeling. The trailhead is apparently in Banks.

    The below article also references a Banks-Veronia trail. I’m remembering that the LE searched a farm in Banks, and I was like, why would they be searching Banks it’s miles away from the school?

    https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-salmonberry-trail-portland-coast-rails-trails/

    FWIW trailhead 25 min from Skyline:

    https://goo.gl/maps/PVntYqMWnu62

    As I recall the Banks property was an Attorney that TMH consulted very early, prior to Kyron’s disappearance. It would indicate that Kaine knew about the meeting although TMH states she never told him herself. I can’t go into the content of that meeting outside of the possibility of divorce was discussed. It was definitely enough for me to be comfortable that Kaine knew TMH consulted a family law attorney. What did he think- that she stashed Ky at the lawyers office? Doubtful. I was told that it was a voluntary search and did not include any client records or anything attached to privilege, etc.

    In that terrain specifically, I am always concerned about trail heads and an offenders ability to go to ground- its very possible.
    B

  12. T. Ruth says:

    @Tiberious says:
    April 6, 2018 at 2:18 am

    I hope the child ended up okay. It’s a shame the hoops we have to jump through in order to do what we know is the right thing. At least you tried!

  13. Rose says:

    re ATG says @ 4/10/18 11:18
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-101/#comment-2262221

    The issue in the Hart case was not adoption but abuse.
    And most govt-involved abuse cases
    in every State
    are heterosexual parents, married or not,
    and single parent.

  14. Rose says:

    ot
    in fact, poverty way far outstrips sexual identification as a
    variable in abuse cases, true of the Harts, as does
    social isolation.

  15. Rose says:

    @Blink, unless Terri was dumb enough to pay the family law attorney
    for the divorce consult from a joint acct or credit card, either
    Kaine was having her followed, or she blabbered to a stoolie of his.
    Suggests an incentive to secret a child whose custody he would likely lose
    upon being divorced, Too bad she didn’t act faster.

  16. Rose says:

    @TRuth I listened to the first hour of MZ on cspan3radio. Then another hour later on phone TV.
    I missed the Durbin privacy zinger. I jotted down his comment below at 4:42 pm bcz it’s relevant to this case.
    His intent is “ensure people are not bullied, not intimidated, & the environment doesn’t feel unsafe for them”
    He later commented against “violence.”
    He said heretofore enforcing TOS has been “reactive” when content has been flagged. Trying increasingly to be proactive by relying on AI to identify (but once again the horse has left the barn, the content is out there.) However,
    said AI is not particularly able to monitor hate speech as it can do with say ISIS key words.
    As he bloviated his opposition to bullying and unsafe feelings, I thought he sure hadn’t been reading the years & years of Soldier’s hate speech and that of her posters—like Desiree. So maybe with MZ now on the hot seat, Terri’s attorney can send MZ a few of his own quotes from the hearing and put Stacey’s hateful fake news page out of business.

  17. Rose says:

    To chose the largest and likely most culturally significant event of the Skyline school year where a random child’s parent was likely to be on premises, & Teri was guaranteed to be on premises if K was targeted, suggests a personality who was quite grandiose & very brazen, not to mention hyperselfconfident, likely the fruit of meticulous planning. High intelligence, personable, adaptive on the fly. Put that in your MCSO pipe and smoke it, Reese. (And if MBS still reads here, pass it on to his retired PPS guidance counselor wife). (Grandiose of me too)

  18. Rose says:

    He doesn’t strike me as a socially isolated loner
    or he would have abducted from a less social setting.
    Probably community ties, including to some other perverts if only online.

  19. Rose says:

    more outside the box Blink. he probaby episodically read or
    reads the 2 FB sites set up, allegedly, “for Kyron.” FBI
    should’ve looked at that. oops, I forgot they aren’t in charge.

  20. Rose says:

    Is bbc’s “the missing” a take on
    McCann case, with a sex change?

    No. I found it to be a well researched and fairly original series.
    B

  21. cd says:

    Could there potentially be someone stalking drivers on HWY 101 maybe picking up on them at a coffee shop or restaurant and somehow forcing them to drive their vehicles over a steep embankment on HWY 101. Or maybe just forcing them off the road .I see that there is another recent incident where an entire family has plunged to their death on that stretch of road.

    -snip
    On Friday, the California Highway Patrol said, authorities received a report of a vehicle leaving Highway 101 and descending a steep embankment as torrential rain fell in the area, which is populated by two state parks. This was just after 1 p.m., according to state police.
    When emergency personnel arrived, the vehicle was submerged, and the strong current and poor clarity hampered search efforts, police said. Helicopters were brought in, but to no avail.
    On Tuesday, the Garberville office of the California Highway Patrol established a multijurisdictional search team.
    “All available resources are being utilized by searching personnel,” state police said in a statement. “Through the collaborated efforts of all the involved agencies we are working to resolve this incident as quickly and safely as possible.”
    The site of the reported accident is roughly 30 miles up the coast from where an SUV carrying another family plunged off a cliff last month onto a rocky Pacific Coast shoreline along a remote stretch in Mendocino County.
    Autopsy set for body found in ocean
    The bodies of Jennifer and Sarah Hart, both 38, were found March 26 inside their crashed SUV, along with three of their adopted children. Three other children remain missing

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/11/us/california-missing-family/index.html

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/11/hart-family-cliff-crash-second-family-california/506163002/

    Maybe this person still has the missing girls.

  22. Rose says:

    @cd. Apparently there’d been a lot of rain. One story said he pulled off on the side of the road but it was a soaked embankment and the car slide over the side and down into the river. I suspect he pulled off bcz the rain was so bad he couldn’t see to drive, and just thot it was a regular shoulder.
    __________________
    I found The Missing, and there have been 2 seasons of 8 each, but can’t access on my two BBC America content channels which appear to be reruns of stuff like Star Trek. I’ll have to get myself together and look for it on Netflix.

    Fwiw, I enjoyed them both. However, season 1 was a great primer (in my view) for any investigators who may be faced with a missing child case, or others who have specialized training in specific offender profiles. I don’t want to give it away but if you watch it I am confident you will see what “take away” I am interested in as a learning tool.
    B

  23. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Regarding the Zukerburg management or lack thereof in the area of censorship of content. He wants to use Artificial Intelligence (AI) to do the work of flagging content. It too has flaws and can be set up to be biased just as humans may be biased in their thinking.

    If he plans to used that method, then some agency should be put in the position of reviewing the design documents and the actual code of the program along with the test procedures and results. Every code module should be documented to its function and where in the design document it fits.

  24. A Texas Grandfather says:

    CD

    California highway 101 follows the coast from San Diego North. It is an old highway that follows the beach areas where possible and climbs the nearby cliffs when there is no other routing. Some of the areas are just dangerous to drive and should have barricades to prevent drive-overs. Some do, but not all. I have driven the 101 from Sam Clemente to North of San Francisco and there are many places that have not been protected with barricades.

    Coastal areas have rains that can range up to twelve or more inches per hour making driving very hazardous on every type of road.

  25. T. Ruth says:

    Wow cd, that is a real coincidence, or someone is running families off the road. Creepy.

  26. Rose says:

    fwiw https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kptv.com/story/28359755/caught-on-camera-attempted-child-abduction-at-park-in-washington

    1. Just OMG. Thank you Lord that this man was stopped the way he was.
    2. You better have a great sitter when they are watching 3 kids at one time in this age bracket. Seriously. I do not know what it will ever take to get through to some people that IT CAN HAPPEN, IT DOES HAPPEN, and Mostly with a different result.
    3. Sheriff should not be sure he is not a local and should have asked the public to review the footage and get tips. He could be a squatter on someone else’s property or living in the woods. I would want people on alert- not thinking he was already gone.
    4. This man was willing to steal a toddler in broad daylight in full view of witnesses that could identify him- he is an incredibly dangerous offender and he will re offend using what he learned here.

    B

  27. Rose says:

    ot
    Alpha parent’s “moodiness” (as cited by former foster child) explained.
    kind of establishes Sarah was not part of a suicide pact but murdered.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theroot.com/jennifer-hart-was-drunk-when-she-drove-family-includin-1825250958/amp

    Just to mention I did not have any specific knowledge when I posited this would be the case previously- I was basing it from experience and the way warrants were served- specifying a known felony meant it was being committed at the time of the accident.
    And I agree with you. Of course I doubt rn there is any way to prove it was a homicide over a double suicide/homicide but what I do not want is someone justifying the utter lack of CPS involvement.
    B

  28. Rose says:

    nice petition
    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/04/devonte_hart_family_crash_frie.html#incart_big-photo

    She neds to contact her Senator Kamala Harris who is capable of this (after next Nov)
    with a backup letter from Sheriff of Mendocino who expressed the same registry sentiment.
    Sending it to the WH as designed on the site is flushing
    it down the toilet unless it is marked attention to the 1st Daughter.

  29. Rose says:

    @Blink. Worse. Sitter sent them to the park alone.
    Seen same done by parents in my neighborhood.

  30. Rose says:

    I don’t understand why the Davidson sisters have a gofundme goal $16,000 higher than what they have taken in, seeking about 30% more money. Money keeps trickling in. Why the monthly trickle in & what will they do with it over and above LE searches? You’d think they’d shut it down, give money in the account—if any—to mcso SAR, and just open a new gofundme if a break in this cold case with a new lead LE cannot follow comes to light. Is there no regulation of perpetual soliciters in Oregon?

  31. T. Ruth says:

    Sounds as though your prayers may have been answered, Blink. The reports on the Hart crash and related autopsies are saying both Sarah and the children had large amounts of Benadryl in their systems. Hopefully they were all sleeping. I don’t know what this world is coming to. I don’t.

    Just heartbreaking.
    B

  32. T. Ruth says:

    The game includes both voice and text chat features. This is the problem.

    Pedophiles are taking advantage of the fact that people from all over the world can connect through the game on voice chat. There have been numerous reports of pedophiles trying to speak with young children through the game.

    One mother told police that her 12-year-old son, who was playing Fortnite, was offered money by someone on voice chat to perform a sex act. Scary!

    It’s become such a problem that the National Crime Agency (NCA) in the U.K. has issued a stern warning to parents about Fortnite. It is urging parents to talk to their kids and monitor their gameplay.

    But talking isn’t enough. As a parent or grandparent, keeping kids safe is priority number one. That’s why you need to disable the voice chat feature in the game. Keep reading to find out how.

    https://www.komando.com/happening-now/452200/if-the-kids-in-your-family-play-this-game-you-must-know-this

    Looks like this game wasn’t invented until 2011, but it just further makes me wonder if Kyron played any games that were set up like this one.

  33. T. Ruth says:

    Boy, 15, who wore ‘fake mustache to try and abduct child,’ was linked to another kidnap case nine months ago but not charged

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995680/Boy-15-wore-fake-mustache-try-abduct-child-linked-kidnap-case-nine-months-ago.html

    It was a kid who tried to steal the baby. ^^^

    1. Thanks for posting the follow up T. Ruth.
    2. As I said- it was improper for that Sheriff to state publicly it was not a local- because, it actually was.
    3. I would be analyzing the prior attempt to understand motivation and to exclude (or include) the possibility of another individuals involvement whether that be direct or tangentially by some means.
    4. Austin Sigg. Not every case or child abduction is a sexually motivated offense, but when we are dealing with a teen acting out in this fashion, it has to be a distinct possibility. If that is definitely the case, I do not care what any mental health professional or “law” says- the only hope here is to protect society by making sure this kid is never in it. If by the age of 15 this kid is driven by sexual gratification merged with violence (oversimplification but you get the idea) it is game over.
    5. That baby is very lucky to have those siblings. The images of the little boy running with the empty baby stroller- omg, I want to make sure everyone is telling them daily that they absolutely did everything right to rescue their brother- AND the danger was also being put in that position in the first place.

    B

  34. Houndog says:

    Hi all, great to see you still plugging away at Kyron’s case. I have checked in periodically hoping for something new (and to watch for Blink’s piece :) ). After all these years your conitinued dedication is beyond admirable.

    Unfortunately my community has recently been rocked by the discovery that a trusted figure in many arenas has been accused of pedophilic activity. I have strong reason to believe that unsuccessful attempts over several months at grooming my son were made. The scary part to me, is that this individual was someone my family trusted over a period of approximately 4 years. He did not get to my son.

    What angers me is that a parent must teach their children to beware of virtually everyone. Our kids are not safe at school, on the field, or in summer camp. This person was heavily involved in the world of special needs kids, and imo likely preyed on the most vulnerable amongst them.

    I’m regards to K’s case, what has newly struck me in the last couple day in my catching up, Is Porter’s haste at dismissing the concern raised by the sub on K’s whereabouts, as surely he’s in the bathroom or getting g a drink, then no follow up. Then I had the disturbing thought that could she have been the one to suggest he go see the “cool electric one”? Are traffickers known to have facilitators in the community?

    houndog- you know tht your vigilance likely thwarted a sexual predator? If even a fraction of what your satellites told you was learned here- I can’t tell you how gratifying your post is AND thank you for sharing it.
    Unfortunately you are correct that it is REQUIRED of us as parents to ASSUME that our kids are not safe from such individuals as you are describing. Conversations- frank conversations with our kids and being hyper vigilant about who is interested in our children and their motivations is really the only way we can do our best to protect them from one of the most prolific criminal profiles “out there”. They function to be near their victim pool- no getting around that and we see it confirmed time and time again with very unfortunate outcomes.

    I have never seen any evidence personally that Porter in any way “facilitated” Kyron’s disappearance- but to be fair- she as well as other adults that were in contact with Kyron after Terri left have never been thoroughly investigated to exclude the possibility- and that is not just my opinion- it is part of the court record. IT IS my opinion that she was negligent in her duties of Kyron’s standard of care on June 4 2010 and I don’t know how anyone could disagree with that-
    B

  35. Rose says:

    ot second time at bat for Lamb.
    what’s with Mult Cty LE/judiciary
    institutions & race disparity defensiveness?
    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/392728-284865-former-county-racial-bias-analyst-threatens-suit

  36. Rose says:

    It seems to me a trafficker per se, who appeared a trusted or normal community member,
    more likely than not would work in partnership with a facilitator who could be anyone with regular child access, and it could as easily be an eled teacher. However I would expect a trafficker would have a hold over said facilitator which could be psychological such as Jen’s over Sarah, monetary ie debt, or threat, ie to their own child.
    It is reasonable to theorize SZ’s transaction was so flawlessly planned & executed that he had a facilitator within the Skyline community who identified a vulnerable tractable child to him by name & class location. In fact, Desiree has always required that, saying it is Terri.
    Porter putting off the sub wrt a “lost” child was indeed bizarre, as were her various excuses for not missing him during the day when his things were there and his lunch uneaten. It was more than negligence. It was reckless indifference that directly contributed to his fate. Father, in not holding her and PPS responsible, behaved bizarrely as well, especially considering the monetary is a powerful motivator in his past and considering the benefit of PPS accountability to kiara.

  37. erose says:

    Porter should have been the #1 POI, not Terri. Not saying she had any intent, even though she could have, but Kyron was in her care. He was her responsibility and the fact that she has stayed mum for so long says there are legal reasons she isn’t talking. Maybe if Porter had been thoroughly investigated, it would have LED to someone. Investigating TH didn’t.

    KH must believe he knows who took Kyron (either TH by proxy or someone else). There is just no other explanation on how he would let k go to Skyline. How weird if you put yourself in his shoes. One of your children goes missing and you place your other child in the same place, DAILY. Who does that? Just the head trip alone would do most of us in.

    Word. Although to some degree I have to say the same about Matthews.
    Interesting development in a case I believe draws some parallels to Kyron’s (as we have discussed). The new Boulder DA has developed a cold case team (note that it is the DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE) that defines cases it will have as “cold” following one year of non-resolution for a missing person or homicide. ONE YEAR to be considered cold.
    B

  38. Rose says:

    Such a joke. O doesn’t even bother to put a byline on their plagarism.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/04/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html#incart_river_mobile_index
    And who do they plagarize? Says kgw, but one knows it’s that lazy imp seeking viewer facetime thru sensationalism, Iboshi, w/o looking. Why this timely nip at hounding Teri? Well, Mother’s Day is a comin’, and so is June 4.
    That means he’s primed & ready to snag the long-distance mother who led an attenuated life from Kyron, weeping, eye makeup running, lamenting the evil of the mother who actually parented kyron. Kyle needs all the viewer clickbait he can grab in May, whatever it costs ethically. If he were smart, he’d dump Desiree for a timely special, first person with Terri. Now that would get him attention.

    She can certainly change her mind, but I can tell you that Terri will never agree to an interview with any local media and most definitely not Iboshi.
    B

  39. Rose says:

    Congratulations, best wishes, mazel tov to the newlyweds.

  40. Rose says:

    I am really tired of lazy writers at the O
    (obviously not journalists) parrotting
    “authorities say” Teri was last to see Kyron at the school.
    Sheriff Reese gets zero respect from me as long is that is printed
    and broadcast over and over & he does not correct it. Imo he has an
    affirmative duty to correct lies previously told reporters by his deputies
    way back in June 2010 when none of them knew all the facts. To let these
    lies stand does a disservice to Kyron and to the investigation into his abduction.
    The public deserves the truth from Sheriff Reese.

    I dont agree with it, but I can tell you that Reese’s policy is that MCSO is under NO obligation to correct inaccurate reporting.
    B

  41. Rose says:

    whatever became of that yardman with an
    immigration issue, Rudy?

    What immigration issue? He got a pass.
    B

  42. Rose says:

    Stacey’s “Who loves Kyle? We love Kyle.”
    is like Putin tweeting he loves Michael Cohen—-
    both (Stacey & Cohen) being enablers. We know who
    Cohen enables.
    your Sat morning quiz:
    Who does Stacey enable?
    New vocab of day from Shaub’s Twitter: “viputerative”.

  43. Rose says:

    the non-efficacy of Facebook’s moderation of hate speech groups like Stacey’s:
    Facebook Didn’t Seem To Care I Was Being Sexually Harassed Until I Decided To Write About It https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/i-was-sexually-harassed-on-facebook_us_5a919efae4b0ee6416a3be76

  44. Rose says:

    NYT crossword today: 7 spaces, “vituperated”
    It took me several hours too long to get “raged at”.

    I always learn from you Rose. Thank you for that.
    B

  45. Rose says:

    @ erose says: April 20, 2018 at 2:39 am
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-101/#comments
    wrt “KH must believe he knows who took Kyron (either TH by proxy or someone else). There is just no other explanation on how he would let k go to Skyline. How weird if you put yourself in his shoes”

    My explanation is Dr James Fallon’s def of the psychopaths amongst us, including himself, due to the features of
    one sees in father of an absence of emotional empathy (example: treatment of wife Desiree; sleeping around on 2 wives; family behavior while on steroids; wresting k from her mother & believing stranger(s) he moved in to boff & clean were adequate subs) as well as a profundity of abject narcissism and misogyny evidenced in 2 marriages. Minor explanations a psychopath would self-talk would be: it’s familiar to k as she visited w/bro; it’s near home & convenient to her; it’s free & he was strapped from paying Terri & supporting nanny & her kids; Skyline PTA volunteerism was as seductive a lure for livein mistress Kristin as playing momma to k. (One notes Kristin got 2 of her kids to Hillsboro to High School. As Terri got James out of Dodge’s HS.) The real test of Kaine’s character will be where he sends her for high school.

  46. Rose says:

    About that inaccurate reporting. O’s byline-less plagarism of Iboshi seems merely a pretext to get numerous Comments (click pass thrus for advertisers’ solicitations overall), almost all of which on that “article have incorrect information, are the opposite of known facts, are inflammatory and defamatory of a private citizen.
    This must be a pervasive “media” problem with troubled organs like the Oregonian which lack editors’ scrutiny and internal accountability. Frankly, I think this bylined article & the unedited and journalistically uncorrected comments are a golden lawsuit to hold publications as accountable for Comments as the underlying article. With the O’s Reckless disregard the uncorrected comments are repetitively Factually erroneous, defamatory, threatening & inflammatory. Needs an attorney team of a 1st amendment Consti litigator paired with a media tort litigator. Terri should get herself on Avenatti’s To Do list.

  47. Rose says:

    @Blink. When Kyron is found, case resolved,
    Terri will be the big interview “get,” &
    local media screwed as they should be.

    I think it will probably land on how his case is resolved of course. Sadly, you know how I think this will end up, and I do not think there will be any ambiguity as to whether or not Terri was involved directly or indirectly.

    I pray daily I am wrong, but if I am not, I have my doubts that any of Kyron’s parents will be speaking publicly if he is located deceased. Most especially if this case changes jurisdiction based on his recovery location or “other”.

    I will say it again. This child will never be recovered while the case remains with MCSO. There is probably no better time than the present to request the FBI take it over. Putting Kyron’s recovery first above ego is long overdue.
    B

  48. Rose says:

    wondering if the new Mrs Horman is as engaged as
    Terri & Kristen in Skyline volunteerism, I glanced at the PTA.
    Seems to be thriving, with the Auction & Foundation better than ever.
    In 8 pp of auction catalog, no donations by Horman
    however. Wonder if he attends & bids, or is disengaged
    as he was thru June 2010?

  49. Rose says:

    what was the name of the male teacher Kyron had for
    K/1, next door to Mathews, whomTerri took Kyron to say hi
    to before he reported to Porter’s class?

    OMG I just can’t get there from memory today (see, its happening)
    Its a Mac or a Mc, now in real estate.
    B

  50. Rose says:

    In checking out the Boulder DA cold case specialists, I found this cold case ADA specialist who trained there. https://www.colorado.edu/law/john-kellner-06 what a great attorney. Why doesn’t Multnomah’s DA have any of these? the why is probably because the voters will keep reelecting Rod & Mike & Deborah no matter what they do or don’t do.

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