Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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Terri filed 3/12/18 Prevention w/o minor children.
http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/online-services/recent-cases?v=SFL12_03122018
likely an RO alleging violence or stalking of some sort.
Not as easy to get in Cali as Multnomah if yr name is Horman.
my prediction: Lomanto will vouch for Scott & his
future behavior, & a man’s reputation is at stake.
Lomanto is locally trusted by Judges & LE.
In a he says/she says, she won’t get an RO on him.
Hearing scheduled for tomorrow- here is the case # SFL-079264
In order for this to fall under family law (as a matter) this individual must be a relative, a previous intimate relationship, or a former cohabitant of the petitioner. I know the answer to this, but as this is a legal matter which falls into the domestic violence category, it would be improper for me to indicate any information that is not included in the petition or made public.
Until and if such a time occurs where the civil defendant chooses to be part of the public domain as it relates to this matter, just going to have to see how this plays out.
One thing I will say “generally” is that TH (on advice of counsel) was not present for the DV petition hearing she is currently under a valid order in CA. It is my opinion, although the Judge is on the record about the veracity about its petitioner, that is the reason that DVRO was granted, albeit for a less time than requested, and of course there was the pending criminal matter at the time. So… I find it noteworthy that she would seek this on her own behalf.
B
imo she’d need hospital records with credible injuries.
If she is alleging physical injury, yes.
B
what I can read is he has retained the most connected
top notch lawyer in that County for RO defense,
so imo she is on a fool’s errand w/o hospital pics &
physical injury alleged.
what’s she doing involved with so many men anyway?
I do believe I am egregiously unqualified to walk directly into that particular lions mouth. N’est-ce pas?
xo
B
under the slogan, “they find each other,”
one can’t say the bios & terri are all that different.
and kristen is as “involved with so many men” as
Terri. The difference is Kristen’s lacks all the
Court-involved RO acrimony, which acrimony
is a step beyond the break up/ make up game
or mere divorce.
School “Climate” Coach? https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/local/lawsuit-says-portland-teacher-physically-emotionally-abused-students/283-557469911
Did he visit a Solar installation-to-be sci fair in 2010?
Unrelated question Rose- do you happen to know if the current PERS system look up, which states it starts with 2012 as updates (iirc the O sued to get that) would still reflect someone taking their retirement way before that, say, in a lump sum, or if includes possible retirees who collected pensions but no longer might- such as it was exhausted or I guess death?
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I see, Climate = good behaviors.
Fox in henhouse.
I suppose one must await the outcome, but the mere filing for an RO, with its attendant Family Court hearing, ensures the complaintant will receive public attention, whether from stalking profane Soldier(s), press, or say here. So there is not only repeated acrimony at the Court-involved level with men, there is knowing attention-seeking. So, even tho I am egregiously unqualified, a certain PD comes to mind, one which already came to mind with the bios. The bronze spray paint competitions fit in the attention-seeking mode, as did Phil. My inference is SZ could as likely have taken Kyron due to retribution to Terri as to Kaine or Desiree. All 3 seem on an equal playing field.
For me, I DO believe TH has some “self-image related” issues that have most certainly NOT done her any favors. Full disclosure- I felt going on Phil would be a major mistake on her part for a bevy of reasons- I felt her appearing publicly on any “news” related outlet where she would have zero control over what content was edited and what was not, was also a huge mistake- but as you know, I would not allow my piece to have any “input” from her either as to what was published outside of some legal parameters and/or agreements with other sources/subjects within.
My training, education dissassociative and experience tells me that very unfortunately, sometimes these victims are targeted BECAUSE of the family dynamic that exists in the victim environment. On one hand, I highly disagree that using one’s lifestyle choices or opinions as consciousness of guilt over evidence can ever solve a case that is prosecutable. On the other, I am an analyst and an intentional journalist with some specialized training in these types of cases and to date, I have only ever seen evidence that excludes Terri Horman and includes an unknown male suspect. It’s a fair statement to say Terri is aware of my personal opinions on some of her post Kyron’s abduction actions and part of that is separating any influence it has on my opinion wrt her complicity. Long way around to day- does anyone of us really know wtf we would do if faced with this most heinous and seemingly impossible situation? I most certainly like to think I do- but this woman is admittedly disassociative as a means to survive- so in those terms- I guess one has to think this is just what that looks like.
Well said.
although “dissociative as a means to
survive” likely predated the abduction
back to the inception of marriage 3 if
not before to 1 and 2.
Rose- I don’t know. What I do believe is that this set of circumstances is a factor in a PTSD Dx that more than a few members of this family bear.
B
iirc the PERS experts on here were V Woolf &
MockingbirdSings who have not posted in a coon’s age.
But I’ll go look.
https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/faq/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2017/05/the_oregonian_pers_database_is.amp
data base appears limited to monthly or annual payments for each calendar year it has been released, dating to 2011.
therefore each year’s release excludes the dead, those who withdrew pension contributions say after moving to another job or State, or got a lump sum in the year after that transaction occurred. If one were terminated for cause, one expects the contributions would be taken out by the terminated party, like any govt retirement system.
Thank you. I was afraid of that, lol, but I wanted to ask for different eyes on it- its not a strong area of knowledge for me considering it only starts in 2011. As usual I was trying to see if there was a cheat sheet to see what pension activity might suggest as it relates to possible issues related to employment similar to Whitehurst or others.
B
Who in the heck is Scott Michael Williams? When was HE in TMH’s life?
Good grief, it’s hard to keep track.
I may be wrong but I thought I read in one article Whitehurst is indeed drawing PERS.
https://gov.oregonlive.com/pers/
WHITEHURST, MITCHELL A $2,984 2015-04-01 Tier One 386 Money Match $92,445 $35,809
Yup. He is.
B
May 22, 2018 at 9:20 pm
Terri filed 3/12/18 Prevention w/o minor children.
http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/online-services/recent-cases?v=SFL12_03122018
Tarheel Comment: TH seems to make bad decision after bad decision to the point it makes me wonder if Kyron missing isn’t because of another bad decision on her part. I’ve never been on the “TH did it bandwagon,” but for me I can’t rule her out either. I know Kyron left the school with an unknown male, but TH can only be cleared of being involved in the disappearance of Kyron after that male is identified. If we don’t know who he is, we can’t know if she has or had any involvement with him. And for goodness sake, will someone please at least release a description of the unknown male. Perhaps that could spark interest in this case again or bring back some memories of things witnessed that day. Blink, it may have to be you….
Tarheel- the one thing I can say in response is that I do not disagree that the potential exists- and has ALWAYS existed that Kyron’s disappearance is linked to the “lifestyle” associations or circumstances involving a parent- thats the problem here- it could be any one of them. One difference for me that cannot be ignored, imo, there is only one person I know of who did not wholly discount that possibility when asked or issue some sort of email edict precluding anyone from talking about her or the situation (Kaine). Terri does not personally believe Kyron’s disappearance could be linked to her tangentially and without her involvement- but she has never excluded that it was possible- and to that point- considering the RSE sting- she reported she had concerns RSE did in fact, do something and was extorting her in the front of her house. She called 911 AFTER she called/texted Kaine and ODonnell and got no response. My point- even though it was pretty clear to her that she was the target by LE- SHE was the sole person cooperating along that line of inquiry- SHE admitted she called the DEA on Kaine and gave them a host of associates who actually ended up arrested and convicted following her disclosure. So didn’t that make her correct in the first place?? Maddening.
B
Well, TRuth, Soldier knows all about it and more, so imo the only
source could be Scott’s mouth to Soldier’s bestie’s ears…you know,
the one Soldier beats the drum to give her money.
you’d think Terri would realize she’s set up time after time.
Sigh.
B
I still am waiting for the story about Cristobal .Does any body know about that?
T. Ruth says:
May 24, 2018 at 2:37 pm
Who in the heck is Scott Michael Williams? When was HE in TMH’s life?
Good grief, it’s hard to keep track.
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Has anyone heard how this civil cause turned out the court date was scheduled for 1:30 may 24.
http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/online-services/recent-cases?v=SFL12_03122018
case SFL-079264
Was terri the plaintiff or the respondent in this suit.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-earl-talbott-arrested-in-1987-killing-of-tanya-van-cuylenborg-jay-cook-in-washington/
EVERETT, Wash. — New DNA technology has led to the arrest of a 55-year-old man in the killing of a young Canadian couple in Washington state more than three decades ago, police said. William Earl Talbott II of SeaTac, Washington, was arrested Thursday for investigation of first-degree murder as he left his job at a trucking company in Seattle, CBS affiliate KIRO-TV reported.
Authorities announced his arrest at a news conference Friday in Everett where they said Talbott is believed to be responsible for the 1987 killing of 18-year-old Tanya Van Cuylenborg. Detectives said they also are trying to connect him to the death of her boyfriend, 20-year-old Jay Cook.
(snipped,more@link)
YAAAY DNA!
O/T
This appears to be Talbotts mother who passed away in 2015. Interesting that the obit gives the city in which each of her children lived at the time, except one.
https://tdn.com/lifestyles/announcements/obituaries/patricia-s-talbott/article_1df27463-2c4d-55e4-bd14-cb37b2d94557.html
http://www.nwnews.com/index.php/community/obituary/12154-obituary-talbott
She sounded like a wonderful person.
Hmmm, I guess that can’t be his mother because the article I read said they only had one son. (Unless they were referring to his grandparents and his Dad. IDK??)
I read it wrong, one son, not one kid, so yeah I think that obit is his mom, the other kids were girls.
Detectives recently learned crime-scene DNA can be used to gather information about a family tree. An analysis in late April led investigators to Talbott’s parents, according to court papers. They had one son. Talbott worked at a trucking company in Seattle. He has a home north of Sea-Tac Airport, according to court records. He was arrested about 6 p.m. Thursday in Seattle, as he left work. He declined to answer police questions.
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https://www.heraldnet.com/news/suspect-arrested-in-1987-deaths-of-young-couple-from-bc/
Desiree’s, oops I mean her fundraiser Stacey’s, stalking and mocking of Spicher is inhumane and disturbed.
I come from a diabetes type 2 family (insulin resistant) on both sides: mother, sister, uncles, cousins on father’s side. It’s genetic fate to go from a svelt size five to being medication dependant to survive. For Desiree’s mouthpiece to mock pictorally Spicher’s obesity, which clearly is insulin resistance, pictorally, and mock medical treatment of her choice is inhumane & subhuman—of the same dehumanizing personality ilk that kidnapped & likely killed kyron. Desiree’s mouthpiece and fundraiser differs not a whit from the killer in terms of psychology imo, and until Desiree publically renounces Stacey AND her money appeals, Desiree to me is her equal.
OMG do I despise bullies. I do not read there and since I have personally seen verified proof that Desiree Young was told by MULTIPLE MCSO resources that DS was NOT involved nor did she have any intel as to anyone that was- as supported by independent evidence and a polygraph (as a REQUIREMENT of her immunity deal) AND by others to include her own lawyer, both verbally and in writing – I don’t know what else to say. Except maybe to say that I expect unstable people to exhibit unstable behavior and attract other unstable folk?
B
Ok this looks to me like Terri got a continuance of a restraining order against Scott Michael Williams.
Maybe he was a stalker encouraged by Soldier’s Facebook to make contact with and or stalk Terri.
Here is what the court site says you have to use the case number and check a wavier to see this page. So No URL. What does this stuff mean I am not experienced with the law.
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Party
Plaintiff Moulton, Terri Lynn
DOB
03/14/1970
Active Attorneys
Pro Se
Defendant WILLIAMS, SCOTT MICHAEL
DOB
12/04/1974
Active Attorneys
Lead Attorney
Creaghan, Charlotte Mary
Retained
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03/12/2018 Domestic Violence Temporary Restraining Order
Judicial Officer
Rosenfield, Arnold D
Comment
Scott Michael Williams Expires 4/3/18
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03/12/2018 Domestic Violence Temporary Restraining Order
Judicial Officer
Bertoli, James G
Hearing Time
8:30 AM
Result
Ex Parte Granted
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04/03/2018 Domestic Violence Temporary Restraining Order
Judicial Officer
Bertoli, James G
Hearing Time
1:30 PM
Result
Not Available
Comment
Scott Michael Williams DOB 12/4/74
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05/22/2018 Substitution of Attorney
Comment
C.Lomanto – Out; C. Creaghan – In
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05/24/2018 Domestic Violence Temporary Restraining Order
Judicial Officer
Bertoli, James G
Hearing Time
1:30 PM
Comment
Calendar Control – Completion of Stipulation
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SFL-079264
http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/online-services/recent-cases?v=SFL12_03122018
Definition of outcome Completion of stipulation
https://www.domestic-violence-lawyers.net/dv-defense/soc-stipulated-continuance/
Correct CD, thank you for posting. Quick note on the “COS” – that order, those conditions specifically are not public information.
B
interesting he’s a trucker TRuth
@cd says:
May 24, 2018 at 5:56 pm
She’s listed as PL, plaintiff I presume.
Yay for geneologists who start with distant
familial dna and do family trees
Keep your eye on the Ramsey case
B
Interesting that she filed that case on 3/12/18, but is in Nevada getting hitched to Vazquez-Martinez on 3/17/18. Was this someone who was stalking her? That wouldn’t be family (domestic violence) unless they were living together would it? So who is this guy, was she dating Vazquez-Martinez while living with Williams? Strange stuff.
T.Ruth, I know the answer to this but as the issue is a DV order and therefore as a policy I do not discuss the circumstances that are not in the public domain.
That said- Mr. Williams filed a pro se action against Ms. Moulton Vasquez yesterday in Sonoma Cty small claims court. Trial date set for 7/23/18.
So.. what I can say is that at the very least, Mr. Williams is the subject of a current ex parte TRO, and the hearing yesterday was for an expanded (not temporary) civil restraining order that appears to have been continued (via stipulation which may have been from the TRO language order- I don’t know) and he is suing Terri in small claims court for a claim between $1500-$5K.
B
@Rose says:
May 18, 2018 at 12:28 pm
And as of 2015 he’s still sitting on a Citizens Review Board that gives recommendations for improving foster care here in OR. Wonder if any of them reviewed the Hart family’s situation.
http://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/crb/about/Documents/2014CRBAnnualReport.pdf.
Who are you referring to please T.Ruth?
B
yes as to RO result Blink?)
Respondent as to his civil suit for 1,500.
Prob attys fees — meaning she lost the RO?
I don’t think he’d file it unless his
first rate lawyer advised him to.
There was a TRO in place via exparte, looks like it was not subject to expiration and continued- with “conditions”. To my knowledge you cannot file suit for atty fees in defense of TRO or RO without some sort of finding of fraud or bad faith upon the court (again a court order) and this TRO was granted and appears to still be in effect. I also presume that any order on Atty fees wrt to that proceeding would have to come from “it”.
There also appeared to be a last minute substitute of legal counsel and the civil claim was filed pro se.
B
@Blonk. thank you. that last was very interesting.
If this guy merits a continuing TRO, & Soldier knows about the case, it is possible he is one of the Very Unstables Desiree’s Unstable Surrogate has attracted to her FB Warrior page. He may psychotically think he’s doing Desiree and Soldier and Kyron a favor.
if he’s suing her pro se, civilly,
that’s another form of stalking isn’t it?
Not legally, no.
B
Rose says:
May 25, 2018 at 2:15 pm
meaning she lost the RO?
I don’t think he’d file it unless his
first rate lawyer advised him to.
There also appeared to be a last minute substitute of legal counsel and the civil claim was filed pro se.
B
05/22/2018 Substitution of Attorney
Comment
C.Lomanto – Out; C. Creaghan – In
switched From C.Lomanto to Creaghan 2 days before hearing.
T Ruth says:
May 25, 2018 at 12:18 pm
MSC-188787
Williams VS Moulton
Looks like Williams lawyer filled for a Mandatory Settlement Conference filed on on 5/23/2018
So is that because he wants to settle for some monetary amount he feels Terri owes him or could this be for any monetary amounts associated with the RO. I noticed his lawyer filed the MSC the day before the DV hearing.
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http://www.courts.ca.gov/cms/rules/index.cfm?title=three&linkid=rule3_1380
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c) Settlement conference statement
No later than five court days before the initial date set for the settlement conference, each party must submit to the court and serve on each party a mandatory settlement conference statement containing:
(1)A good faith settlement demand;
(2)An itemization of economic and noneconomic damages by each plaintiff;
(3)A good faith offer of settlement by each defendant; and
(4)A statement identifying and discussing in detail all facts and law pertinent to the issues of liability and damages involved in the case as to that party.
The settlement conference statement must comply with any additional requirement imposed by local rule.
(Subd (c) amended effective January 1, 2008; adopted as subd (d); previously amended effective January 1, 1995, and January 1, 2007; previously amended and relettered effective July 1, 2002.)
Who are you referring to please T.Ruth?
B
@Blink, he who builds fences.
I thought that but I did not see his name on that doc- did I miss it?
B
@Blink
Yep, page 16, lists the members of the citizen’s review committee.
PANEL MEMBERS
Citizen Review Board
Volunteers
Jean Cauthorn
Donna Ching
Charlotte Cook
Diane Greenman
Jason Wishert
Yup, I missed it. Thank Goodness for you Eagle eyes
B
Intersting cd, thanks for posting. IDK what it all means, but it almost sounds to me like she’s willing to drop the RO (e.g., didn’t use an attorney, but self-represented) and the dude is saying, wait a minute, what about my attorney’s fees or some other cost related to the matter. Who knows?
http://www.kdrv.com/content/news/National-Missing-Childrens-Day-The-Search-Continues-For-Multiple-Families-483754111.html
Desiree Young’s son, Kyron Horman, disappeared on June 4, 2010 from his school science fair.
“He was seen in in throughout the school along with Terry (Kyron’s step-mom) and Kiara (Kyron’s step-sister) and a lot of eyewitnesses place him in the key classrooms, looking at the exhibits. Then we know that at approximately 8:44 in the morning he was posing in front of that picture that we all know, in front of his exhibit. We know that Terry was in the school when she took that picture, then from that point we have eyewitness accounts that place him leaving the school with Terry right out the side exit,” said Young.
According to Young, that was the last time anyone saw him, “We just don’t know what she (Terry) did with him from that point until the time that she’s captured on surveillance footage at the gym,” said Young.
Then Young received a call from the school and she knew something was wrong, saying, “I actually the whole day did not feel like there was anything wrong. I had actually gotten several emails from Terry throughout the day checking in about the science fair she had posted photos things of that nature, following up on other discussions that we had had. It was strange to get that many emails from her in the day but I really didn’t connect that is odd until after I got the phone call from the school saying that he was missing.”
(snipped, more@link)
My heart breaks for Desiree. Truly.
I do note that her overall description of communications between her and Terri that day has changed, again. I would add that alerts that pics have been posted to FB are not “emails” from the person posting them as it sounds like she is confused about that as well and that occurs post 1:20PM. Apparently she never looked at them until after Kyron’s disappearance because her first response would have been wth do you mean hes missing, I just saw his pics from the Science Fair this morning on FB?
I did notice DY does not say that make-believe timeline in her video interview so I guess we are to assume it is in an email form?
So who in their right and lucid mind actually believes if it were true that there was a single solitary witness that “saw” Kyron leave with Terri and Kiara and that was the last time Kyron was seen that Terri Horman would not have been indicted by the first grand jury or flat out arrested? But don’t take my word it- I have been told personally by more than one individual with access to Kyron’s “binders” who have flat out admitted that to me. Or how about if that were true or could be proven, why Desiree would ever have dropped her civil suit? No other way to say this except to say it is patently false. That is not my opinion- it is actually supported by physical evidence to the contrary.
The trio turned around at the door (without going in) and turned around to get Kyron’s backpack before they ever entered the school that morning for the first time. Not to put too fine a point to it- but she also knows his backpack was located in his classroom and Porter’s deposition is patently clear.
If any member of MCSO could put Kyron Horman with his step Mom after she walks out with Kiara (without Kyron) and he is seen in Porters room and other areas, lastly in Matthews classroom, Terri Horman would be in her 8th year of jail rot and/or sitting with a very fat judgement with lots of zeroes from DY’s lawsuit. As you know, none of these scenarios occurred.
Let the dozens of older and less evidence rich cases close all around them, MCSO apparently LOVES that hamster wheel.
This poor sweet child.
B
I am so tired of hearing all the different, conflicting scenarios that have been spit out to the public regarding this child’s disappearance. Why does DY insist on speaking out for LE? They need to do it themselves, no matter who they think is or is not involved.
The 8th anniversary of Kyron’s disappearance will be a little more than a week away. Obviously the case is COLD! I pray that LE releases 1) an accurate timeline of the events that morning, particularly Kyron’s 2) a general description of the person Easter Mathews saw Kyron leaving her room with. And any other thing that might jog one’s memory, info, they may have on vehicles they may not have identified, etc.
Memories fade, it’s been 8 years, there is apparently no DNA to follow-up on, (I wonder if they checked his poster board for unknown DNA?) so why not make an effort to give the public accurate information at this point. The children of that school have all grown up and are attending high school somewhere or college or whatever, what harm could it possibly do for them to say something as simple as, we know Kyron Horman did not leave the school in the accompaniment of Ms. Multon/Horman/Vazquez. They can qualify that statement with everyone remains a suspect in this child’s disappearance, including her.
I hate this case! I just have a gut feeling that LE and/or PPS is withholding something that could lead to its resolution. How much longer will this go on, this LE clam-up?
I’m thinking about this new DNA genealogy approach some LE’s are using.
Kyron’s abduction sounds so similar to Stacie Wilmoth’s abduction back in 1978 in Gresham, I wonder if any Gresham LE have ever run the dna from her case. I’ll bet not, because she is alive and not deceased or missing. I wish someone would run the dna from her case. It was never solved and she was left for dead, it was a miracle she survived, and her beating was so brutal one would think there would have to have been some of the perps dna somewhere. With a serial killer like the Golden State rapist/murderer living in plain sight and continuing for years to offend, I’m thinking Stacie’s case could possibly be tied to another case or two or five or ??????
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31086
TRuth. Fence builder = Mult Cty.
Object of TRO = Sonoma Cty.
@cd says:
May 25, 2018 at 9:39 pm
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-104/#comments
One assumes the confidential Stipulation with Conditions was the settlement.
@TRuth. Sorry, I read backwards & didn’t see your comment.
Yes that volunteer was fence builder.
Hart children were never in foster care after they left TX.
CPS differs.
The OR foster care sustem is noteably scandelous &
needs to be in Fed Court receivership with judicial supervision.
Gov Brown and every pol in OR knows that.
So my POV is every citizen on that statewide review committee who served before the scandels were made public, say in 2017 & before, should be fired forthwith and barred from ever again serving on any Statewide review committee involving services to children. Forget due process, & let them just try to sue the State & hang on.
Desiree never misses a chance to tell the public Stepmother did it. she appears to have deteriorated mentally and physically to me. https://www.google.com/amp/www.kdrv.com/templates/AMP%3fcontentID=483754111
Well I just read the script on that url above. I’d just flatly say if what Blink has told us from the depositions & investigation is true, then Desiree’s a lunatic or a liar. It is way more than ptsd Blink. Of course that’s my opinion now of a political figure and his most recent attorney, & other folks differ in opinion. So my opinion is only that.
Well, I admit I found it odd she omitted locations which have time stamped video of her, published witness interviews and in some cases that includes the parking lot with a view of the truck to exclude Kyron being in it. The only thing I know is if one is knowingly misleading anyone it will do nothing to locate her son or escalate the investigation. If LE is intentionally misleading her I think it is a good indication that the FBI needs to be brought in.
Next week is 8 years. I do not know how 8 years, 2 defunct grand juries and zero charges later while a 7 year old continues to be missing from an elementary school is not worthy of priority over status quo.
B
looks like Williams may have been in legal trouble for Domestic violence before and is still on probation for violating another RO. What was Terri thinking even having anything to do with this guy.
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Case Information
SCR-699520-1 | PEO VS. WILLIAMS
Case Number
SCR-699520-1
Court
Criminal
File Date
07/05/2016
Case Type
Misdemeanor
Case Status
Opened
Party
Plaintiff
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
Active Attorneys
Lead Attorney
OFFICE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY COUNTY OF SONOMA
Defendant
WILLIAMS, SCOTT MICHAEL (<—- same name)
DOB
12/04/1974 (<—- same birthdate)
Active Attorneys
Pro Se
Charge
Charges
WILLIAMS, SCOTT MICHAEL
Description
Statute
Level
Date
001 VIOLATE COURT STAY AWAY ORDER W/CONVICTION OF DOM VIOLENCE 166(c)(1) *Misdemeanor 05/22/2016
Disposition Events
09/28/2016 Plea
001
VIOLATE COURT STAY AWAY ORDER W/CONVICTION OF DOM VIOLENCE
Not Guilty
09/28/2016 Plea
001
VIOLATE COURT STAY AWAY ORDER W/CONVICTION OF DOM VIOLENCE
*No Contest
09/28/2016 Disposition
001
VIOLATE COURT STAY AWAY ORDER W/CONVICTION OF DOM VIOLENCE
Convicted
09/28/2016 Sentenced
001
VIOLATE COURT STAY AWAY ORDER W/CONVICTION OF DOM VIOLENCE
Sentenced
Probation
Type: Formal Probation
Start Date: 09/28/2016
Term: 3 Years
End Date: 09/28/2019
Status
Status
Date
Comment
Granted 09/28/2016
Events and Hearings
07/05/2016 Complaint Filed
Comment
Complaint filed
09/28/2016 ———- In Chambers Minutes in ? ———–
Comment
———- In Chambers Minutes in 3 ———– Abbreviated minutes entered on probation transfer case, plea, findings and sentencing Defendant pleads Not Guilty to count I PC 166(c)(1) Defendant withdraws plea of not guilty and enters plea of NO CONTEST to count I PC 166(c)(1) CONVICTED TO COUNT I PC 166(c)(1) No legal cause why judgment should not be pronounced Imposition of sentence suspended Formal Probation Granted with standard terms for 3 Year(s) Fines and fees as directed by probation officer The Court executes a CLETS order and provides a copy to the defendant Be of good conduct and obey all laws Immediately notify the probation officer of any change of address or phone number Obey all reasonable orders of the probation officer Immediately tell the probation officer if you are arrested or convicted of any crime If you are deported you must immediately notify the probation officer After that, and while you remain outside this country, you do not need to report to the probation officer If you reenter this country you must immediately report to the probation officer Pay restitution to the victim(s) and the Victim Compensation and Government Claims Board in a manner to be determined by the Court and California Service Bureau and in an amount to be determined by Probation and the Court Defendant not to own, possess, have under custody or control any firearms or ammunition pursuant Federal & State Law Possess NO weapons Immediately enroll in, pay for, and successfully complete a 52 week domestic violence anger management counseling program chosen by the probation officer File proof of enrollment with the Court, and the probation officer within 30 days Do not annoy, molest, strike,, threaten, harass, sexually abuse, batter, stalk, or disturb the peace of Susanne Williams Do not consume alcohol to excess (.08 or greater will be considered excess) Defendant advises the Court that he understands and accepts the terms and conditions of probation
09/28/2016 Formal Probation Granted
Comment
Formal Probation Granted with standard terms for 3 Year(s)
01/17/2017 Acceptance Of Transfer Per 1203.9 PC – Filed
Comment
Acceptance of Transfer per 1203.9 PC filed (Probation in from another county)
02/01/2017 Automated 8715 Report Issued
Comment
AUTOMATED 8715 REPORT ISSUED
It seems from Soldier’s comment, who seems to get it from Desiree or Scott, that the Stipulation With Conditions was a settlement on 5/23 such that the Temporary RO was not made Permanent.
Calling your attention to CD’s post upthread on the respondent Mr. Williams.
The docket will be updated likely Tuesday to show the small claims case has been dismissed.
Mr. Williams is the subject of an active RO- I sincerely doubt he is speaking to anyone about it.
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