Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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oops. I thought I gave up pressing in 6th grade as being too onerous but I always admired
the crisp dress of my peers whom ironing relaxed. I think it’s fair play to ask
rhetorical Qs on topics Blink says she won’t discuss til her piece; let’s her know
topic concerns. Pressing for actual publication isn’t helpful imo because who
knows the reasons: ripeness, timing, more work to do, moderation chores,
flu, private practice, family, Could list far more variables; it comes when it comes.
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From that Reddit proposing Kaine rushing home with officers to flee with k precipitously
filing for RO/divorce, rather than my saying as before likely he was looking for divirce/custody opportunity and seized the day, rather than his thinking analytically and rationally and asking her hard questions, it comes to mind the only reasonable explanation for his behavior is that over time he knew he’d been so emotionally abusive, such a philanderer, and more (steroid or whatever induced rages–do you address that blink?) that it was reasonable to believe any emotional type wife would want him dead to the extent of murder. So for Kaine to believe and act precipitousky on O’Donnell’s story line suggests he’d been a very bad spouse indeed and he knew it.
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It is reasonable to open the door, based on DEA being present at in the sting, that rudy or kaine or both had drug involvements beyond steroids. I bet if O’D's later K9 had gotten in the doir on a valid search, more than steroids were there to kaine’s knowledge, perhaps not Terri’s. Coke mood swings for example outdo steroids. Though if even Cogen was grassing and coking, idk why any judge in that County would cars.
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it just occurs to me, Cogen’s grassmate who observed coke,
had the portfolio of public health in the County.
how ironic.
without going and resurrecting urls (i flew cross country & got to bed at 430!am), while stranded in airport googling I found Rudy’s business registration said inactive on one site. His biz addr on Renata in Milwaukie (what a pretty pic of landscaping) was first listed in 2015 and sold in 06/16. (maybe it was ingeborg’s or Dahgren’s home?) I didnt locate buyers and sellers.
oh and an octavio a gomez was connected to that milwaukie address on google.
and plugging in his name got a Portland gangs report with names listed,
his not among them, but there were underlying sites I didnt go to
here is the address that sold in June
https://www.redfin.com/OR/Portland/7169-SE-Renada-St-97267/home/26072470
maybe I have it wrong from SecOState site
ot fyi
http://www.portlandmercury.com/news/2016/11/23/18709089/a-controversial-portland-cop-improperly-spied-on-her-former-stepdaughter
reflects not just marshman’s supervision and ethics but imo the da’s.
I gather no discipline = no public records requests are honored.
The DA is the advisor to PPB and other agencies when potential
criminal behavior is implicated. Imo back channel advice to PPB.
If you never resolve criminal public servant LE behavior,
you don’t have to make it public.
One lesson Terri’s interviews with Dr Phil gave Blink, and it may be a deterrent to The Piece, is that all of the aftermath focused on Terri rather than the unknown male who abducted Kyron. That tack was primarily at the public direction of both bios, which was so counterproductive to Kyron’s finding that the mind boggles at their misplaced public zeal. So Blink has no reason to think anything but the same publication aftermath will happen with her work: persecution of Terri while altogether ignoring the point of the piece, restarting the investigation down a productive path.
“I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding.”
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Blink, are there inconsistencies between TMH’s statements made on Dr. Phil and what you are going to publish? If not, what “editing adjustments” might have resulted due to TMH’s appearances on Dr. Phil? Or are you referring to editing adjustments as a result of someone other than TMH who has appeared on Dr. Phil?
There are not.
I was aware that some of her interview content would be information we covered and I may have had an opportunity to preform further diligence to “add” veracity. I am not going to be specific until I publish, but keep in mind, TH has/had no idea what info I had going into the interview process or ANY of my ancillary work “during” to corroborate or refute her. I think that is critically important to a successful interview.
ps. I will say there are going to be corrections to TH timeline as presented by Phil- specifically the amount of time (iirc) she was on the side of the road.
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Breakfast with Santa & Kyron Horman Fundraiser
Sunday, December 4, 2016
9 am – 11:00 am
Come join Santa at the Loch Lolly warming shelter for “Breakfast with Santa” and the Kyron Horman fundraiser.
Price is $10.00 per person
Menu includes: French toast, sausage, eggs, juice
Proceeds from this breakfast go to the Kyron Horman Foundation, each child will be able to make an ornament to take home at no additional charge.
Please RSVP for the breakfast with Santa
at lochlolly1@aol.com by November 29, 2016.
http://www.lochlollychristmasforest.com/
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and the beat goes on, and on and on.
may 2011. at mcso hdqtrs, on tv camera, krafve said he was the “lead investigator.”
http://kval.com/news/local/inside-the-kyron-horman-war-room-11-12-2015
It sounds like Rees deliberately misrepresented the mcso lead
to the Court when saying ODonnell was
Possibly, yes, or simply repeating what he was told.
B
The golf course must be near the 7-11?
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09-22-16
Alexander did confirm deputies conducted a search over the weekend near the Wildwood Golf Course off of U.S. 30 in connection with the case.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/09/multnomah_county_sheriffs_offi_18.html#incart_river_index_topics
I see that the golf course is near the 7-11. Glad they followed up on TH’s tip 6+ years later. I’m sure this was covered back in Sept., but this is our last real lead. Someone in a white truck at Hwy 30 7-11.
Right. Caught on CCTV MCSO was not interested in.
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you’d think cctv frôm all major arteries (esp Hwy 30) in a certain radius of fast food ie 7-11 locations
woukd’ve been obtained and reviewed by 6/11/10 with all those LE volunteers from other counties.
It is bizarre in the digital age to limit Search to ground terrain.
O/T
Clackamas County bakers make gingerbread creations with space theme at OMSI
http://www.pamplinmedia.com/cr/26-features/334097-213601-clackamas-county-bakers-make-gingerbread-creations-with-space-theme-at-omsi
I bet Kyron would have loved this exhibit!
@TRuth. wrt dining with Santa for $10 and a souvenir, I’ve come to see the ingathering of money over 6 years with no end in sight and with uses specific to finding kyron himself prohibited by tax law as exploitative of kyron and his probable death. wolf/lamb’s clothing.
OT- Blink have you been following the Sherri Papini case at all? Any thoughts on it? Or anyone else care to contribute?
Yes, somewhat. I do not believe there is any evidence this was a hoax, but I do not believe Papini was a random victim.
B
@meg. my bet’s on some of those
latino/a high schoolers she tangled with targeted her.
tortured beaten burned branded.
= a true hate crime.
Which brings to mind if kyron
was a hate crime directed to a parent,
the abductor woukd’ve wanted him found imo
agreed
B
2004 article on Hwy 30 sites of interest
http://www.portlandmercury.com/news/welcome-to-the-best-of-highway-30/Content?oid=31856
Wildwood golf is public.
So imo Portland Parks and Rec dept
maintains the greens.
might skim as far as uses of Logie Trail Rd in article above on 30.
seems to me the absolute disappearance of kyron’s body is only
explained by the motivation in Blink’s profile.
Blink, have Stenson’s post Skyline worksites on 6/4 been ascertained
by foia? (hopefully it was by mcso but they bumbled with his
presence so). Imo the public assumed he went school to school, but
in fact he went from public park to public park within a certain “route” of
proximate locations and terrains. Anyone mapped out the public parks
ownership within a 10 mi radius of Skyline?
His itinerary woukd’ve included some of those that day.
On other workdays, M-F, he might’ve bern assigned other geographic areas.
Wildwood golf would be a logical pairing with Skyline.
On the other hand, does PP&R work the County or only within city limits?
(all pps schools qualify as within city limits). Red Tail golf is said explicitly
on line to be greens-kept by PPR. if it’s outside city limits, Wildwood was similarly treated.
@Blink.
Did TH park at entrance to Logie Tr Rd on 6/4?
if so, for how long.
Reading that 2004 article, one can see how that
would be suspicious all by itself.
if she had, my poly Qs woukd’ve included had she ever parked there before?
Did not.
B
this is apparently the yard stenson worked out of, and worked
at in winter maintaining equipment prior to retirement.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/parks/67928
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/auditservices/article/459334
posted as an idea provoker only
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-mcgettigan-5a77a528
note 1990s as Volunteer with PP&R.
apparently PP&R tasks inckde trailwork maintenance and toilet cleaning (portapotties with chemicals?)
Imo then Stenson had access to knowledge of trails and disposable toilets.
while the Volunteer WITH The Family is republishing fake news as fact, has any local contacted gofundme Kelly’s site to ask where is the poster she published was coming? Altho I guess sauce for the goose (BOC) is acceptable for the gander (GFM Kelly) wrt a publish postponement, except Blink neither solicits nor accepts $.
@Rose says:
December 1, 2016 at 12:51 am
Hmmm, you made me think of something I’d not ever wondered before. Where did Stensen go to continue his workday after he left Skyline that morning?
FWIW, I really never have considered him a suspect, but it is interesting that it’s never been asked or mentioned where his next stop would have been.
@Rose says:
December 1, 2016 at 12:45 am
Wow, what an article! It’s all mostly funny/creepy, until I got to the Logie Trail part. Best place to bury a bloody rug, or perhaps a body? Published in 2004, makes one wonder if someone didn’t take it to heart. How did you ever did you find that?
Rose, Great find. Helps with perspective, for example Bottom’s Up in on that route.
Rose says:
December 1, 2016 at 12:45 am
2004 article on Hwy 30 sites of interest
http://www.portlandmercury.com/news/welcome-to-the-best-of-highway-30/Content?oid=31856
truth. googling the golf course name–which is on the list as a H 30 landmark.
the course is exceptionally popular and well knkwn amongst golfers. it is
also public, owned by the city or county. which is why mcso coukd roam it
at will so likely not a body site.
where he went, how long it took himto get there, when he arrived, who witnessed that, were probably more relevant for mcso to pin down than others at skyline apart from terri. because kyron went outside.
@TRuth well, his wife divorced him in old age,
after the disappearance,
so there must be something unlikeable about him.
Close to me recently there was an attempt at a child abduction (about 6 years old) by another child (said child looked to be about 10). When I hear of things like this I find myself wondering if it’s possible Kyron would be used in such a way. If not Kyron, then possibly another abducted child that has aged out of interest of their abductor. As we know from past news, it has happened before. So sad. Waiting quietly, but anxiously, for Blink’s next report and hoping something will happen soon to help find sweet Kyron.
not onthe current website
http://gungadave.xbuild.com/on-the-farm/4514218372
The sheriff in the Papini case during his public announcement stated something that may have bearing on a number of cases along the West coast. In reply to a question about Mrs. Papini being possibly picked up for trafficking, to be used as a drug mule or sold for prostitution. His answers was “Yes. very possible.” Then he went on to say that LE was well aware that the major route for trafficking began at Portland and terminated at the borders of the country.
We have no proof that this happened to Kyron, but the possibility exists. At the turn of the 20th century, Portland was considered the most dangerous city in the country in regards to personal safety. It probably has improved over time. It would be interesting to see a study of crimes against individuals across the span of a century.
If SZ were Stenson, wouldn’t he have been ID’d by now. If Stenson is involved we have to extrapolate that Kyron’s abduction was done by two people, not one. If Stenson had a helper, maybe, but wasn’t he wearing a uniform of sorts, ie. not dressed as a parent. Did Matthews let Kyron go thinking SZ was a “worker” type or a “parent” type?
Yes. I dont deny appropriate scrutiny early.
B
(fwiw, this is a wiki page and can be edited.)
9:15AM and 9:45AM tipster “Chas” sees white truck near Logie Trail Rd
http://missingchildren.wikia.com/wiki/Kyron_Horman
ot
clearly shows PPB’s stance wrt the authority of the settlement supervising Federal judge wrt police reforms
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/12/portland_city_attorney_wants_t.html#incart_river_mobile_home
which Portland will easily get away with after Jan 20.
@mbs, did you know our future AG declared war on I.D.E.A. long ago…. google it.
looking at the 7-11, on hwy 30 on st helens rd in linnton, a yelp commenter
says it is a convenience for sauvie islanders. Has the tape of 6/3-4
been preserved so the man who said where’s the eled still visible?
An important reason to “solve” Kyron’s abductor is PPS practices just repeat themselves.
http://star-news.info/2016/10/12/vernon-rips-up-asphalt-to-improve-river-quality/
An eminently worthy and creative middle school project during school hours. Principal Keefer brings on campus: 1) Depave and its construction workers, 2) Openarchitecture and its employees, 3) Lower Columbia Estuary Partnership and its employees and volunteers to include teaching lessons directly in classrooms just like Bonneville Power, 4) “community members (work volunteers), and assorted volunteer parents.
Frustratingly, I spend each day wondering how many more years it will take before someone on this case releases more information. Information that most likely could further the case. I think it’s ludicrous that the people in charge of these cold cases, which Kyron’s certainly is, seem to think it’s perfectly acceptable to hang on to information for 10, 20 even 30 years, and then when released, booooom, someone finally comes forward with the information that solves a case. The cold case team is then applauded. What ridiculous policy is that? What an insult to the families of the missing, or murder victims. Makes me angry that there is not some sort of uniform procedure requiring the release of information after such and such length of time. Sad that yet another Christmastime has to go by without any answers to Kyron’s disappearance, I blame that on LE. Approaching 7 years gone, and absolutely no attempt to disseminate information that would further the case, while at the same time allowing rumors which do not help the case to fly freely without correction or restraint. Shame on them.
And parents, unfortunately.
B
I just reread a keefer 2010 interview that kaine came in to discuss kyron’s enrollment with him, had read the school supply list and purchased the supplues. He represented kaine as telling him kyron woukd return to his classroom. now either kaine was flagrantly psychotic or kaine truly believed terri took kyron for the summer, maybe a vengeance motif, but would not let him miss the start of school.
how hard could it be for mcso to develop a suspect decision tree and rule out alibis?
1 every school parent or guardian, not just those on The List
2 every school staff member or former staff dating to K’s enrollment
3) every pps employee in Skyline dating to … ditto
4) a) everycontractor or subK dating to…ditto that
includes bonneville, solar4schools and both their bidders
on the contract–first solar, then turbine–and later actual subcontractors
4b employees of county agencies with business at skyline ie PP&R
5) geographic residential neighbors in a certain radius of school and home
6) ordinary contacts in kyron’s social system–swim, soccer, gym day care etc
7) radiating out from james or kiara, child or family contacts
8) all parents extracurricular contacts esp those who’d met kyron
9) car traffic that day–plates id’d from street videos
the List called for reports re those not on it, yet witnessed there.
That allows for recognizeable parents and former staff not on List.
This is interesting and if State investigator was in on Rudy’s sting, suggests the Hispanic DEA agent’s role at the door was to feed Rudy his lines in Spanish. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/12/defense_alleges_prosecutorial.html#incart_river_mobile_home_pop
in the O article, the then chief investigator was fired, another investigator resigned, and the head of Criminal was demoted due to their social media stalking of the OR DOJ Civil Rights Div Dir. Looks that was nkt their only misconduct. AG Ellen has had an undistinguished if not rocky tenure.
It seems the business owner fulfilled his contract, did a great job, but needed a State deduction extension he counted on when bidding, and while he had many documents he said justifying work commenced by a certain time, O published one alleged fake starting a State attempt at clawback of the entire State contract payment for a good job received, not just the value of the deduction. That AG Ellen tack occurred because O outed two alleged false documents about when two subs commenced work, although to the company could have been allowed by her to submit other docs meeting the same test. Imo AG Ellen doesn’t like to be challenged by O. Why not ask Manning who gave you these two pages and what other research did you do on the issue? I think Manning went after this solar anomaly originally at the time trying to get dirt on Cylvia, Kitz, and the 6 OR Univ installations.
Hello Blink- Hope you are doing well
If I may
For clarification, IRT recent your comment please and thank you
are you agreeing to just the part about Kyron possibly being taken as a hatecrime directed towards a parent?
or are you agreeing to the remark specifically IRT the Papini case in which alleged past perpetrators of hate crime from high school years came back to further their violence against Pipini?
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Rose says:
November 30, 2016 at 11:25 pm
@meg. my bet’s on some of those
latino/a high schoolers she tangled with targeted her.
tortured beaten burned branded.
= a true hate crime.
Which brings to mind if kyron
was a hate crime directed to a parent,
the abductor woukd’ve wanted him found imo
agreed
B
Hey there! Hope you and yours are well Mom3.0
I was agreeing that IF Kyron was the target of an intentional “messaged” hate crime, he would have been returned so that the “message” was known.
B
OT when I read this, I thought of the Volunteer With The Family’s targeting of Terri and DeDe with Fake News and promotion if violence towards them….the site a Davidson said they read and approve and have never disavowed.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38156985
So I googled Reddit Kyron Horman and sure enough…
It turns out there are real consequences to inciting stalkers with fake news as pizza patrons subject to armed assault learned today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/04/d-c-police-respond-to-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-comet-ping-pong-restaurant/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na-amp&utm_term=.cfe4057fd70f
the article where Kaine represented to Keefer he expected Kyron back for school is an argument he fully believed Terri stashed Kyron for the summer but wouldn’t let him miss school.
Ben Keefer: “Kyron was on our rolls as of June 4th, and he only missed seven days. So technically, he wasn’t withdrawn.
***Kaine and I have talked, and Kaine wanted him to be ready for school. He came about school supplies.***
“We have a class assignment ready for him, and hopefully he’ll be able to use it – that’s our hope.” School district officials say they’ve spoken to police, and are convinced that Skyline was a safe school before Horman’s disappearance, and is even safer, now.”
http://www.opb.org/news/article/skyline-elementary-welcomes-students-new-security/
Why would Kaine believe Kyron would be returned when at that time he said Terri did it ? Vengence for James’ move is inadequate; best revenge would be divorce, taking $ and custody, and other scenarios woukd be easier than kidnapping-secreting. He knew she loved Kyron, so the most reasonable explanation for return would be summertime protection. What about summer differed? much time to be spent with the Youngs. So, one wonders had Terri articulated concern to Kaine about Kyron being at risk in Medford during summer visits? I thought she promoted his residing there.
Blink replied to
Tracygirl says:
June 18, 2010 at 2:55 pm
at the time of the questionnaire
that “the neighbir for one” had a white truck.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/17/kyron-horman-case-uncle-kristian-horman-is-arrested-for-child-molestation/comment-page-3/
K Holm was in the office that am wrt some matter
Blink, did you ask TH to speculate on why both parents, whom she knew so well she thought, have not advocated transfer of the investigation to a competent agency with experienced stranger abduction LE resources?
Yes.
B
O/T
Portland wants to appeal federal police oversight judge
In an unusual move, Mayor Charlie Hales is escalating the city’s legal assault on the federal judge overseeing the city’s compliance with a federal police oversight agreement — causing critics to cry gamesmanship.
Hales is asking the council to authorize a writ of mandamus — essentially an appeal — blocking U.S. District Court Judge Michael Simon from requiring the city to report back on its progress in re-establishing a citizens oversight board to monitor the city’s 2014 settlement.
A writ likely would go to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
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snipped, more here:
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/334870-214751-portland-wants-to-appeal-federal-police-oversight-judge
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How weird that this Budnick article is dated December 6, as in tomorrow. Makes me wonder if it was put out a day earlier than intended for a reason.