Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes

I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010.    Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past,  I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another.   This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases.    I am proud of that.  I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.

Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom,  Terri Horman.   Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey.    Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child.    There are dozens of sources,  collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.

Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did.  I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping.  Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode.    When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her,   I most certainly respected that.  I still do.

While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure,   I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth.  There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions.     Not what I signed on for.   A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience.   He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.

I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil.   I appreciate your patience and your understanding.   Feel free to discuss the show below.

 

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  1. -A Texas Grandfather says:

    Rose

    Your tuning fork playing would be only one note. Tuning forks are made to play an F, A, Bb, or C. They are carefully crafted to produce the chosen note each time it is struck. A tuning fork for the pitch of A by international standards is 440 vibrations per second. European orchestras usually begin by tuning to A=442 or 443. The actual vibration count is stamped into the handle or one of the two tongs of the fork.

    The oboe is responsible for setting the pitch in an orchestra. Since there are no frets on the string instruments, the first violin often creeps the pitch upward causing great tuning problems with the brass and woodwind instruments.

    My suggestion to TH was intended to point out that often times a lot of our problems are related to the choices we make. None of us have enough information about TH’s life to understand true motivation for her choices.

    We all want to find Kyron and to also point the way to the person or persons responsible for his disappearance. Few if any of us really believe at this point that TH had any direct involvement in his abduction. And, in addition, I believe that MCSO took advantage of her to keep their people out of trouble.

  2. Rose says:

    Stacey (is it Morris or Rivera who’s the mother of 2 imprisoned murderers?)
    couples herself in the same breath as the social media mouthpiece of Desiree
    whilst accusing DeDe of murder:
    “i am a volunteer with Kyron’s family.
    I believe Terri harmed Kyron in the worst way.
    Actually, I think she hired her lover/friend, Dede Spicher to do it.”
    Kelly once said the davidsons read an approve this FB.
    DeDe has testified to a grand jury, taken a poky, and been cleared by mcso.

  3. Rose says:

    These people need to read a book,
    not romance or mystery either.

  4. Rose says:

    well, according to his FB page,
    Terri’s CEO lives in Kristen’s hometown of Rocklin.
    What extraordinary judgment (on Terri’s part).
    His education is limited to community college
    and he has multifaceted streams of employment, so my
    guess is he’ll buy what the Soldiers are selling without
    critical thinking.

    link please?
    B

  5. Rose says:

    good answer Blink.
    Of course legal issue 2 only occurred
    in late Nov, so I’ll skip that. But,
    if you spoke after Juky 4 (and I’m sure you did as Phil was Oct)
    and she omitted the arrest and charge,
    there is a credibility Q as to what else she has omitted of
    significance. Anyway, shows a willingness to sandbag your own credibility.
    I see yr piece needs at least 2 sections:
    what she said.
    What I independently corroborated.

  6. Rose says:

    @ATG. wrt “My suggestion to TH was intended to point out that often times a lot of our problems are related to the choices we make. None of us have enough information about TH’s life to understand true motivation for her choices.

    We all want to find Kyron and to also point the way to the person or persons responsible for his disappearance. Few if any of us really believe at this point that TH had any direct involvement in his abduction. And, in addition, I believe that MCSO took advantage of her to keep their people out of trouble.”
    http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments

    Totally on board.

    This choice of job site, proximity of Rocklin to Marysville, cohabiting choices, and so on suggest to me tho her name isn’t Carlos, she has–since the abduction, but I posit with her initial hookups with Kaine, and the messiness of Desiree-Kyron–sought out situations, locations, circumstances, and people dangerous to herself.

  7. Rose says:

    Desiree btw calls it “attention getting”,
    a Borderline features codeword imo.
    I don’t see it that way.
    The chief attention seeking adult,
    consistently, in Ky’s 4some has
    been Desiree at every turn.

  8. erose says:

    First TKG, now this. What to think.

    Rose says:
    December 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm
    snip>
    I will answer you this way Rose- Terri never informed me personally of either of her current legal issues and she certainly had occasion to.
    B

  9. DistantReader says:

    I most certainly believe that the DV accuser knew what was up in Oregon and used it when he felt the littlest nudge. My question for Blink would be Will this be a delay in your publication of the interviews with Terri over the past year? It seems some things might become old news if you don’t finish this project..

  10. cd says:

    Rose says:
    December 12, 2016 at 7:39 am
    Stacey (is it Morris or Rivera who’s the mother of 2 imprisoned murderers?)
    couples herself in the same breath as the social media mouthpiece of Desiree
    whilst accusing DeDe of murder:
    “i am a volunteer with Kyron’s family.
    I believe Terri harmed Kyron in the worst way.
    Actually, I think she hired her lover/friend, Dede Spicher to do it.”
    Kelly once said the davidsons read an approve this FB.
    DeDe has testified to a grand jury, taken a poky, and been cleared by mcso.
    —————
    I believe that Stacy and DY both know Dede had nothing to do with Kyrons disappearance. They think if they accuse her and disrupt her life enough she will implicate TH in Kyrons case. It just goes to show the level of lying people are willing to do in order to reveal a perceived secret which does not even exist. These people don’t care who’s life they ruin. If I was that guy in Calif I would distance myself from DY and her hater group they like him now but he could be a victim of their lies and accusations tomorrow.

    What I can tell you is that I have reviewed legal documents that clearly and unambiguously made Desiree Young acutely aware that Dede Spicher was cleared by MCSO and the MCDA of any knowledge or participation of any kind re the disappearance of Kyron Horman and if she ever makes a statement to the contrary she will be sued.
    B

  11. Rose says:

    So how does Desiree get away with calls to “come on everybody”
    thru a FB social media outlet that her money/raising-front sister
    Kelley said they both read and approve?

    I don’t understand your question Rose. If your asking me how those humps can vilify DDS anyway- it would have to come from her directly, and as you know, she has never once repeated her allegations against DDS since June 2015 and I don’t believe she ever will.
    B

  12. Rose says:

    wrt “she has….I posit with her initial hookups with Kaine, and the messiness of Desiree-Kyron–sought out situations, locations, circumstances, and people dangerous to herself.”
    I don’t mean to suggest such an MO is clinically indicative.
    Many warm hearted proactive loving hearted women do the same.

    Fair statement and agreed.
    B

  13. Rose says:

    in Soldiers Comments congratulating her “victory” in this business having to take its FB page (chief means of advertising and communicating with vulnerable clients imo, thus resulting in economic harm.)

    “Kelley Davidson Ramirez. Wow Stacey!
    Kudos to you my friend. (and in light blue) Desiree Davidson Young”

    Does this mean Desiree used Kelley’FB page to post on Soldier’s FB?

    In her post tge Davidsons commented on, Soldier calls for continued personal attacks on CEO’s FB page and Yelp.

    FB needs to bar Stacey and those she says she volunteers for (acts on behalf of) for life.

  14. Rose says:

    So Stacey is not only a Volunteer With The Family,”
    she is a personal “friend.”

  15. Rose says:

    I don’t see how the GoFjndMe owner and Desiree can gloat over and praise a social media economic attack on a nonprofit providing critical care to the elderly and disabled on Yelp and their primary communication vehicle of FB. When a oreviously excellently reviewed firm is driven out of business, what will those needy do? It’s nefarious acting out activity like this that reminds one of Desiree’s hidden past and the possibility the abductor came out of her past, because she certainly has no limits of what she gets up to with Stacey to wreak havoc on anyone she deems has crossed her–to include Kaine and Terri.

    Those poor people.
    B

  16. Rose says:

    education or not, her employer looks pretty competent
    one hopes he fights back
    http://www.seniorcare.com/about/daniel-m-parker/

  17. Rose says:

    If Desiree works thru Kelly to run GoFundMe on her behalf, and to FB post to kyron-related pp, and thru Stacey to lead social media attacks on Terri, and does nothing publically in her own name except “comment.” is she somehow barred from electronics?

  18. Rose says:

    I reviewed the O re Phil in Sept briefly:
    http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/09/desiree_young_responds_to_terri_horman_dr_phil.html
    Desiree is entirely off base in that Portland Public Schools, not Terri, was relied on to keep him safe.
    But this is an example where Terri explicitly said she deliberately withheld information from journalists (elsewhere she said re rocky state of marriage) on instructions of LE. Akin to withholding from Blink interviews. She had an attorney in CA by then who likely told her not to talk to anyone about her 2 charges. Hiwever decency demands she tell an interviewer I was arrested on a specious charge I didn’t know about but cannot discuss it now. Imo DeDe would have done that.

  19. Rose says:

    I never read at SM because it is filled with old newsprint copied copiously and used polemically, but did so today looking for Court docs.
    I wonder why Janet goes to great lengths to copy snippets of posts made here out of context rather than just join the conversation here? People disagree with each other agreeably here all the time, yet I’ve never seen TamikosMom.

  20. T. Ruth says:

    RE: TMH not mentioning the firearm charge.

    If TMH thought the firearm was given or loaned to her by her ex-roommate back somewhere before August 2015, there would have been no reason to bring that point up. Since her FTA charge, July 4, 2016, she has pleaded not guilty to the charge of stealing the weapon, so IMO that’s probably what she is going to say was the case. She either thought it was a gift or was told she could have access to it by the compliant, and thus borrowed it. (I do not for one minute blame her for feeling she needs to protect herself, with all the crazies that have been stalking her for the last six years! I do, however, wonder why she would jeopardize her reunification process with her daughter by securing a firearm.)

    Kyle’s story about the gun incident was published on December 5. It was repeated by many news outlets, including the local Marysville/Yuba City newspapers on December 6. It’s highly possible that Cristobal read the article locally, and then decided to call Iboshi on his own to get his 15 seconds of fame. How else would Kyle get a copy of the TRO, if not from Cristobal himself? It’s also possible that he contacted Oregon LE after reading the article on December 6, not prior to his filing the RO back in November, as Kyle mentions that this man only “recently” found out about Kyron’s case and Terri’s connection thereto.

    IDK, just thinking about timing and whether or not MCSO was involved in any of this. It’s possible they weren’t involved at all, because none of this really has anything to do with Kyron’s case. I can’t see any benefit to them to instigate JC’s filing of a TRO.

  21. thatkewlgirl says:

    Just watched CrimeWatchDaily and it had a blurb on Terri. Mostly a synopsis via bio mom starting with June 4, 2010, rehashing every accusations along the way and some that weren’t even fact based, and ties it up with phone interview with DY done this week about how she has butterflies now that this is going to be solved soon.

    The link isn’t posted yet…

  22. T. Ruth says:

    The CristobalvsMoulton domestic violence case #is 16DV03284. So does this mean it’s not private and can be ordered for $ from the Sacramento Superior Court site?

    https://www.saccourt.ca.gov/family/records.aspx

    General Information

    Family Law Records are either stored at the Family Court or at an off-site facility. If a file is stored off-site, it may be ordered using the online file request system.

    Case numbers beginning with the following are located at the courthouse and do not have to be pre-ordered:

    15AD, 16AD
    11FL, 12FL, 13FL, 14FL, 15FL, 16FL
    16DV
    14FS, 15FS, 16FS

    If you do not know your case number, then you may look it up using the court’s public access site.

  23. thatkewlgirl says:

    Here’s the CrimeWatchDaily episode link on TH and Kyron’s case

    https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/12/13/missing-boys-stepmom-heading-to-court-on-separate-charges/

  24. Rose says:

    @TRuth. you and I can’t see benefit in “mcso instigating” a TRO, but if it sticks, while Idk how a DA would get other bad acts into evidence in an abduction trial, along with the gun disposition, but I bet Rod would find an exception.
    The same Krafve is in charge now as was in charge in 2011-16, and he was with Oeterson of Gresham on the E Cty team. He instigated seated side by side with Frink the specious DeDe sting proposal she tufned down. Rudy sting on his waych. And squirrelly proactive tactics WW documented in Swimming With Sharks.

    I have no doubt any deputy would give the routine get aTRO advice
    he’d give to any troubled housemate in touch with him.
    —-
    Brw the tro had to be civil harassment or domestic violence. The latter
    sounds much more dire, but the description can
    mean only someone you once dated, needn’t even be coresident.
    —–
    In the court jacket at one point Terri told the Court
    she could not hire defense attorney, so idk how she got Richard.
    —-
    I never felt with B Bell in charge Terri would see kiara at all
    before age 18 and certainly that has been kaine’s behavioral intent.

  25. Rose says:

    imo anyone who’d destroy a sole proprietor’s
    business and livelihood, or encourage and gloat
    over that econômic harm, is a sociopath, period.

    There is no way a DA would call
    Desiree or any of her assicates or family to testify in
    a trial against Terri. zero credibility.

  26. Rose says:

    OT this works whew

    free Gaslight mystery

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPcYkxmhGs0&sns=em

  27. cd says:

    Rose says:
    December 12, 2016 at 11:26 pm
    I don’t see how the GoFjndMe owner and Desiree can gloat over and praise a social media economic attack on a nonprofit providing critical care to the elderly and disabled on Yelp and their primary communication vehicle of FB. When a oreviously excellently reviewed firm is driven out of business, what will those needy do?
    —————-
    So wasn’t the guy that cohabited with TH and contributed to this whole mess also employed by the non-profit critical care TH was working for ? Maybe now he can see what a bad idea it is to become involved with SG soldiers/Kyle Iboshi/Desiree Young. I’ll bet his employers think he is a really great guy now.

  28. erose says:

    When TH was arrested on the warrant for the gun, her domestic partner would most likely have been made aware of the charges (by her). She might have been held overnight, and she would probably have had to explain where she was, or he might have come right down and bailed her out. And then, he might have started to wonder about his new girlfriend.

    But, that doesn’t explain how he made the connection that Terri Moulton = Terri Horman.

    Did she at that point tell him about her past?

  29. erose says:

    Worth repeating, since more articles stating TH was last person to see Kyron. Makes me want to puke. Does anyone with any authority really want to find Kyron? These are independent witnesses, and their story needs to be heard, not suppressed.

    snip>

    “It’s not true,” Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. “We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true.”

    http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school

  30. Rose says:

    @erose. re “he might have started to wonder about his new girlfriend”
    Or, like Kaine, he may’ve had an eye on yet a new girlfriend. Or, on Glassdoor
    workers write the company flaw is they never get enough hours. Ready to bet
    she was getting way more hours than he was. My guess is he
    moved her in “like family” because he had one or more children with whom
    he needed help, just like Kaine. To recreate a family would be a lure.
    ——
    Desiree won, but she lost imo, bcz an employee of mcso is
    playing her, and two she does not care about facts and
    truth imo, and fools surround her.
    On this site, it is Kyron’s fate, whereabouts,
    and perpetrator that matters.
    —-
    Caught a bit on a Jon Benet story on CNN late last night.
    Uncanny how similar. Said the police clntinuously put out disinformation
    and misinformation. Only diff was husband Ramsey was a stand up man
    who stood by a wife despite cancer and spent his resources to defend her.
    Polive theiry was Patsy’s fit of rage over either bedwetting or pineapple
    consumption. Desiree has always promulgated the fit of rage–against Kaine–motive,
    Likely because it’s mcso’s. Maybe Krafve read the jon benet playbook.

  31. cd says:

    cd says:
    December 12, 2016 at 5:26 pm
    What I can tell you is that I have reviewed legal documents that clearly and unambiguously made Desiree Young acutely aware that Dede Spicher was cleared by MCSO and the MCDA of any knowledge or participation of any kind re the disappearance of Kyron Horman and if she ever makes a statement to the contrary she will be sued.
    B
    ————–
    One would think that the posters on the WS site would start to wonder why.

    Dede is never mentioned in any new article about the Kyron Horman case not since Desiree withdrew her tort suit against TH in 2013.

    Desiree never says anything about Dede when talking about Kyrons case. You would think that if Desiree really believed that Dede murdered her son she would say something lawsuit or not.

    None of the news media shows Crimewatch Daily, Dr. Phil Nancy Grac, ABC news, local Portland Oregon news ever mention Dede since 2013 when she testified in front of the Grand Jury.

    Kaine Horman Kyrons father has never mention Dede since he accused her of giving TH bad advice in 2010. If he believed that Dede murdered his son I would think he would say something but nada.

    Its a fact:

    Dede did testify before the Grand jeer below is a comment from Desiree’s own civil attorney for the abandoned civil suit against TH saying Dede testified before the Grand Jury.
    -snip
    Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman’s friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury. In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

    “We recently learned that DeDe Spicher did appear in front of the grand jury a week or two go; we don’t know what she said,” Rosenthal stated.

    http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/
    ————–

    The only people who ever say Dede murdered Kyron are Stacey Green, and Dede’s cousin Tom Jones. I would think that the posters over at the WS Facebook page would eventually start to wonder about the truth of SG’s and TJ’s accusations against Dede.

    If Stacey and Tom are willing to lie about Dede how can anyone believe anything else they say

  32. Rose says:

    ” Fake News is consp theories put on social media 4 $ by folk who know its false”
    (attribution, KurtEichenwald tweet)

    So on World Soldiers Kyron FB we see
    1) statements Terri and DeDe conspired to abduct Kyron
    2) use of social media
    3) associated solicitations of $ to GoFundMe going to the Davidsons
    4) Blink says mcso has informed Desiree Terri was not the last
    person seen with Kyron and has been told he left with an
    unidentified male, and has been told by mcso DeDe had no
    involvement, and the DA will not speak to her personally any longer.
    Given her “read and approve” status with the WS Admin, can
    the kniwingky false box be checked on the Admin’s “news”?
    If so, all Soldier’s work product meet eichenwald’d definition of “fake news.”

  33. A Texas Grandfather says:

    T.Ruth

    The firearm restriction is a stipulation in a family court case in Oregon. IMO it should carry zero weight since the stipulation did not apply to both parties. TH had a lawyer in Oregon that did not look after her best interest. I have always suspected that he did that to make a better relationship for himself with the court. To heck with the client.

    The current theft accusation is in Yuba county or Sutter county California. Yuba City is in Sutter county. Marysville is in Yuba county across the river. I don’t see the Oregon stipulation about the firearm carrying any legal weight in California.

    Since Terri could not afford an attorney, the court likely appointed one for her from the current pool. I hope the attorney does the right thing.

    The OR order is a mutual agreement clause in a custody order. It was not issued by the court as a FAPA, therefore they are not considered reciprocal before the court. Which is not to say that MCSO does not hold some as yet undiscovered “stake” in this mess-I don’t know. Terri was originally pro se in the gun larceny charge, but Richards was retained and entered his appearance in October.
    B

  34. Rose says:

    @CD. WS Admin attains her credibility from kelly posting there that she and desiree read and approve everything, then kelly follows up with episodic congratulations foracting out. and kelly’s GFM is prominently displayed up front.

  35. Rose says:

    @ATG. iirc Bunch had newly opened a solo practitioner shop and lacked a large firm’s litigation resources. Imo he was not a litigating divorce lawyer but a Stipulation sort. This custody thing needed to be litigated and she needed stahancyk or similar.
    her issue was she had no money and had to conserve it for Houze. In other curcumstances I’d suspect her husband planned it that way (she’d be the chief suspect) so she lacked money to litigate the divorce. .

  36. Rose says:

    read a newsweek article tonite where a NY Fed Judge pointed out a search warrant and affidavits (subject matter of a suit to make them public) were unrelated to any ongoing investigation (leading one to believe he’ll order them released).

    A reminder that any mcso employee’s contacts with Cristobal or RM relating to CA matters are unrelated to the KH investigation & so are subject to foia if in writing.

    among others, absolutely.
    B

  37. Rose says:

    I cannot understand why a person in Moulton’s shoes has never been able to see an inside the home health care worker with the elderly, with dementia, or people with disabilities, is the most dangerous occupation she could choose. Even without her Horman past, and without a history of a larceny charge, whether or not founded, she was quite vulnerabke to a charge of theft by an Altsheimer’s patient who mislaid something, by children vieing for assets or personal effects of an elderly person, and so on. Frankly, alone with the disabled and elderky, she’s lucky it’s not a charge of elder abuse when an elderly person broke a bone innocently, or sex abuse of caring for a bedridden minor. And in the situation, knowing her education and potential, people could grow to wonder why she wants to be in homes with the vulnerable. Maybe that was part of JC’s thinking.

    I dont know that TH really contemplated those issues as she did that she needed work- and was not in a financial position to renew her teaching certs (CEDs iirc). I am at 3-6 credit hours per year and it is pricey. She has been very dismayed she has been unable to work in her field do to the negative publicity and of course the hater crater abuse.
    B

  38. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Thanks B

    In regards to the mutual agreement clause in a custody order. Yes we know that TH signed that order. However, I have suspected that the firearms clause was inserted because MCSO was telling the attorney that they had something that they could charge TH with and he took advantage of her by leaving a one sided constitutionally illegal clause in the order. This means she signed the order under duress or threat from either the MCSO or the court itself.

    Lawyers and courts have constantly ignored the 2nd amendment to our federal Constitution. Usually twisting language to support their position.

    The founders well knew the meaning of each key word they used. The word regulated means operating under a set of fixed rules. The word militia meant a citizen organization, not a regular standing army,that could be called upon in an emergency. The word infringed meant that no laws could be used to change the meaning of the second amendment. They knew that some would try and of course there are hundreds of unconstitutional laws and ordinances on the books of states counties and cities.

    I don’t know how Richards entered the case. Is he performing his services pro-Bono or is he being paid by a charitable organization to protect the second amendment?

    I do not know this as a fact- but it would be legal protocol for a represented person in one state (and tangential issues) to coordinate representation in another, even if just as a referral. I don’t know if or how his retainer is being handled.
    B

  39. T. Ruth says:

    FWIW, I agree that the custody agreement that KH & TMH entered into was one-sided as far as the firearm restriction goes, ahem, among other things.

    However, it was agreed to in a court of law by both parties. So I am thinking that Mr. Horman can now file some sort of motion in the custody case, to show TMH in direct violation of that court order, which states she may not possess a firearm. And if so, what does that mean as far as reunification of mother and child goes? That’s my question.

    Firstly- asking everyone’s patience- was under the knife yesterday and I am pretty miserable. Extremely restricted movement for a few days and I openly admit I am a hellacious patient. If I seem terse over the next few I have now pre-excused myself, lol.

    Technically, anyone can motion the court over pretty much anything in their cases with limited exception (bad faith, frivolous). That said, it does work both ways- meaning, it could backfire in the sense that the allegation is unproven, does not violate the agreement in OR and if I were Terri I would remind the court the entire reason the status is what it is was from a similar soborned accusation at best. In OR the DA oversees (to an extent) support matters ultimately so he has access to her employment info, etc, and I have no doubt that Terri would raise past tactics and open quite a can. I would be surprised in the first place if somehow there is not some knowledge (at a minimum) on his behalf.

    We will hear her side of it. Two courts, 2 accusations 2 men, 3 major interviews over a year and not a mention during 2 does not help her integrity problems. I am not judging her but as you all expect you get it “straight” from me.

    Wrt Kyron, which is of course the point in all this- I stand firmly that it is my belief she had nothing to do with his disappearance and has no knowledge of what happened to him. The only evidence that exists in this case excludes her.
    B

  40. Rose says:

    by bringing James into her 3rd marriage,
    he was exposed to marines not only on his stepfather’s
    side but also Kyron’s uncle on Kyron’s mother’s side.
    —-
    marines are noble, but a high school graduate
    like his uncle is a high school graduate.
    —-
    imo Kyron’s abductor has always smelled of an abductor with a military
    background, perhaps special ops, due to the swiftness, boldness, and
    efficiency of his capture.

  41. Rose says:

    ot
    new facebook procedure rolling out wrt flagging fake news
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/facebook-fake-news_us_5852c248e4b02edd41160c78

    fake news = conspiracy theory + $ solicitation + knowing falsities

  42. Rose says:

    you mentioned you’d be out of pocket this week.
    Sorry it’s a surgical pocket and not a vacation.
    The gun clause was most unfortunate on Bunch’s part
    and she probably just trusted him and signed,
    to get her money settled. It was filed
    with the court and will be read by her children
    and her “unifiers” forever, and DAs in other States,
    and the clause reasonsibly suggests to
    readers a propensity to
    violence and a history of threatening use
    of a gun where none exists. One more
    Engel trick imo; wasn’t there wording he tried to sneak
    in that he had to delete?

    about impending criminal charges against Kaine or words to that effect.
    B

  43. Rose says:

    It is astounding in retrospect one of her first acts upon settling in Sacramento and presumeably getting a job was to do an interview in People, and in July-Aug after her gun arrest while facing charges to begin arrangements
    to put herself on national TV/Phil in Sept. Guaranteed to lose the job and housing imo. Not an integrity issue as much as terrible judgment.

  44. erose says:

    Blink, Perhaps TH’s problem all along. (o/t Hope you heal fast!)

    T. Ruth says:
    December 15, 2016 at 11:35 am

  45. Rose says:

    best wishes to snowbound Portlanders

  46. A Texas Grandfather says:

    Thank you kindly ATG-

  47. Rose says:

    http://www.adweek.com/tvspy/investigative-reporter-thom-jensen-out-at-katu/75551
    what’d he expect after 2 yrs of suing katu for overtime claiming the worksite exacerbated his tsd?
    Now in Sacramento, Apparently he’sStacey’s go to media man.

    Good luck Terri.

  48. DistantReader says:

    Trying to comment on Blink’s reply to Rose at 11:35 AM.
    Your statement meant a lot. As someone who had spent WAY too much time digging up anything and everything about this case from probably day 2 till ? I have been busy but trusting your site for some answers. Thanks for the stating your overall opinion of did she or didn’t she. The proof was never there. With all the haters and the witch hunts-it would have come out by now if this woman’s timeline was a lie. Weren’t there even more technical analysis done regarding her GPS or phone pings many months later? Yet all we heard and saw from mcso was Sauvie Island searches. Now we know that even credible tips were suppressed. Folks need to realize this will never be solved until everyone who was ignored or told to keep quiet by that drooling idiot/mcso (no offence to nice people who may drool :) come out and state what they experienced that day.
    This is just my opinion :-)

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