Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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Kantor disclised his holdings on a State form when he ran for election.
I’m talking about cronyism rather than conflicts. Vera Katz, the
political Godmother of Sam Adams & others, was much
made of at local temples like Beth Israel as a Holocaust
escapee. Doubtless she & the Kantors & his commercial real estate business
owner associate, also temple-prominents, “crossed paths.”
All I can comment to is what I/we observed while he was on the bench in 2 simultaneous cases and in effect, a third as an active grand jury or criminal investigation. Hot mess.
B
ot
Meisenheimer on the Board.
Also, he’s on the Planning comm 2009, guess who else to rub shoulders w/Balmer & Simon?
Kantor
http://classroomlaw.org/files/posts-pages/donate/2009_legal_citizen_program.pdf
Katz prior honoree
ot
imo the remedy for Ayala, or any similarly situated elected official, is recall.
The remedy, or preventative, for DA misconduct in specific trials is felony by statute, but
that still overly burdens the Defense to put those facts in evidence, and overly burdens all
but rich defendants or those with Federal public defenders. Better not to elect shysters
in the first place, or to have State Bar discipline office that works. And a lot of unethical DA behavior goes back to their law school (lack of) professional education and their State Bar Assn’s rigor re ethics standards.
Portland had a rep for wide & deep corruption preceding Shrunk DA for decades.
Def agree. If the people elected her they should be responsible for recalling their choice when her agenda was withheld from them. Disclosure: I have open cases in her jurisdiction- I can say without reservation LE wants her out.
B
ot imo this man knows he’s DA til he
dies or is carted off to prison no
matter what he does in office.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_A._Ramos
LOL.
Probably a true assessment.
B
further ot
Ramos just proved my point about the
importance of a law school’s role in ethical
professional socialization. What is Citrus Belt Law Sch?
Oh dear me. Its an unaccredited part time night law school- no longer accepting first year students and closing 2020.
Not sure what the deal is there, in my State you can’t take the bar exam unless you have a JD from an accredited law school. Maybe some sort of grandfather clause?
B
fwiw OR lawschools don’t seem,
based on their output’s behaviors, to be big on
that ethical socialization either.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/#comments
Ken Yohe says:
August 1, 2017 at 10:39 am
You have mentioned that you have interviewed Terri and multiple witnesses in the Kyron case. I’m interested in talking with you. Please email me with contact information and I will give you a call.
Thanks,
Ken
Good Evening Detective Yohe- I am sure my contact info is on file with the PIO’s office, but I will be glad to email you.
************
Blink, so did Detective Yohe ever contact you?
He did. He and I agreed to mutual confidentiality re the contents of all of our communications (outside of his public post obviously, which as you can plainly see was never deleted or altered, contrary to fake cauldron toxin seep).
What I have said already and will be glad to repeat is that Det Yohe was advised that I would not, at any time, discuss any source protected information of any kind, as is my (and their) right. I did not.
Det Yohe was at all times respectful of that condition at no time did he ever request any source interview or source material of any kind. Any allegation of that is complete rubbish and if I were a betting person not one he would take kindly to.
B
I just wondered if that contact in any way shaped your decision not to publish your TMH interview at the time.
Also, I was appreciative of TMH’s insight into Kyron and the events of that morning, and wondered if it had anything to do with her not posting here any more.
In no way T.Ruth. Not then and not now. My compliments on your artfully crafted question, though.
In TMH defense, I asked her not to post answers to specific questions. I think it gives the appearance of BOC being a mouthpiece for someone and that is not what I do or who I am as a journalist or investigator/analyst. The conversation must be fact checked, balanced and in context. Facts and evidence have to tell the story here, not me, not TMH, not anything but the totality- with the forever nagging responsibility, how does any of this point to what happened to Kyron and where he may be found?
B
O/T My heart goes out to the families of the murdered and wounded in the horrible church shooting at the little town in TX. Could have been any town USA. When will all the madness stop? Big Sigh. I don’t know what this world is coming to.
Kantor was handpicked for the Horman & Young cases &
agreed to accept transfer
from Meisenheimer, my guess by the latter & by Shrunk.
I’m wondering but too lazy to look if he got on the bench in the
Katz or Potter era. Imo the MCSO/DA/Rackner bench was stacked
w/a crony who had no family court background.
kantor = first appted by Dem Roberts (to Distr Ct) then
promoted up with Kitz’ ‘98 election (Circ Crt)
Strange he never did family crt in all those yrs.
Patton resigned from his $95,000-a-year principal post on Jan. 1, 2003. He was convicted later that year of molesting at Tigard and Tualatin motels the 16-year-old boy he’d met online. He was sentenced to six months in jail, a year in a halfway house and a lifetime of registering as a sex offender.
After his release, Patton seemed to have rebuilt his life. He created FabulousPDX.com, an events website catering to the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender communities. He told authorities he was making $4,000 to $5,000 a month. But in 2010, Patton failed to register as a sex offender then was convicted in May 2011.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/07/one-time_sherwood_high_princip.html
An RSO familiar with schools and school settings, victims going down in age, obviously very computer literate check out his Linked-in:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pattonrob
FabulousPDX.com is a website devoted to delivering fresh information about events and news of interest to the gay, lesbian and genderqueer community of Portland, Oregon.
(snipped)
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He’s now serving 10 years, but…it should be noted he failed to register as a SO in 2010. Arrested in Multnomah County, so when did he move there? I came up with an addy of 9630 SW Edgewood, Portland… 16 minutes away from Skyline, but of course it’s 11 miles and heaven forbid anyone question an RSO that isn’t within 5 miles! I doubt he was questioned anyway, because it appears they didn’t know where he was in 2010. So how does a man making 4000 a month end up homeless as he was claiming to the judge?
I brought this guy up in 2012, and questioned then, and still question now, who were the other “men” and “18 year old” involved in his sexual escapades? Why were they not named, and yet it said they were facing charges as well. Could it be that his new-found LBGT business had connections to some in power? Hmmmm?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/06/11/kyron-horman-missing-case-breaking-news-remains-believed-to-be-human-located-off-sauvie-island/comment-page-28/
ot Ramos is a Republican.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-republican-mike-ramos-decides-not-to-1489519220-htmlstory.html
imo he will be CA Gov some day.
good questions TRuth. If it was him or an associate
the Q remains, where is Kyron, who himself is vital evidence.
if it were him, it would explain why no
publically known repeats.
shaved head, thick neck http://koin.com/2014/07/02/ex-principal-gets-prison-for-child-porn/
http://www.pqmonthly.com/fabulous-pdx-publisher-rob-patton-sentenced-in-child-sex-abuse-case/13653
summer of 2011 5 adult males involved w/this 12 yo in group sex
like TRuth, I wonder who the other 4 men were, if all were arrested w/mug shots, and who got probation? Given Patton’s line of work (lgbt event publicity), one wonders if his path crossed Adams’ given the latter’s alleged taste for teens.
in the beginning
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianextra/2008/02/patton.html
http://www.pridesource.com/article.html?article=41773
June 2010. Says Patton played softball for Team Oregon, practicing for the Gay Games in Europe. Where did they practice?
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/02/portland_bodybuilder_68_shephe.html
And where did they work out?
T. Ruth
O/T
The little town of Southerland Springs was a perfect target for the mentally defective shooter. Too small to have a police force. Therefore, dependent on the officers of Willson County Sheriff’s dept and the Texas State police.
The shooter used a Ruger model 556. It is made in two versions. One will allow the AR style ammunition and std. .223 cal. amo to be used. The standard magazine on that rifle is a 30 round Magpul.
We could cure some of the problem by reverting to the holding centers for the mentally disturbed and for the medical profession to be a lot more careful with medications that adversely affect brain functions such as requiring the entire class of Staton drugs to be administered exclusively in a controlled environment.
If one continues South 47 miles on 87 from Southerland Springs,it passes withing three miles of the town of Cuero in DeWitt county. I lived in Cuero from February 1959 until May of 1962. Hwy 87 is the route that was used by the turkey farmers to drive the turkeys to market in San Antonio prior to the railroads being built. Turkeys are still raised by the thousands in DeWitt county. Some farms raise eight to ten thousand birds each year.
ot. Hi, ATG. imo he Would’ve shot up a crowd representing and linked to a woman he’d fixated on psychotically whether moinlaw,wife, or rejector whether he was in a small town or urban area.
w/an automatic assaukt gun it woukdn’t matter if police were present or a crowd member had a gun.
As an nra expert said on npr, most police lack the training & ability shoot a MOVING target (much
less one wielding his weaponry). Expert said Stopper succeeded bcz he was a professional instructor, the man had left his scene and was walking away, & he was confined to his truck seat while being shot at.
And you could build a mental hospital in every town in TX and this guy wouldn’t have been in it—unless he was captured after the shooting & got not guilty by insanity—which he woukdn’t.
He’s the very definition of a psychopath, like Paddock, who cons his way thru life—until he doesn’t. I hold moinlaw responsible for not getting an RO, then calling the Sheriff when he texted. I really bet some of the texts threatened the church and her town & she didn’t report him to cops, and that’s one reason that family isn’t doing interviews on cnn.
o/t: I believe the shooter (not interested in promoting name as well, thank you) died of self inflicted injury but was wounded prior to entering his truck. Wileford is a definite hero imo, who knows where that evil was headed next. I have no specific training in mass/spree murderers outside of general psychopathy study and eval. That said, it seems to me that the precipitating events (stressors) and triggers culminating these attacks are incredibly well known to many folks around them. Apparently this shooter was on some sort of informal watch the week before the shooting at some festival where he showed up all in black and assessed for “carrying”. People- wtf is wrong if that is going on and nobody alerts LE in the first place? This POS was apparently target shooting on dogs or animals from craigslist.
I cannot fathom why, if in retrospect there is a collective “we saw it coming”, time after time and active shooter after active shooter that people do not change their response to the threat and act on it.
Creepy dude dressed like a ninja staring down folks at public events causing others to evaluate if they are armed.
check.
Escalation of familial violence and estrangement, harassing and threatening texts sent.
check.
Subject shooting pets with automatic weapons.
check.
Review of carry permit indicates subject can be armed legally- therefore has constant access.
check.
Threatened to kill first wife and her entire family upon filing, following ASSAULT CHARGES.
check.
Fractured the skull of his step son and went to a military prison for a year, dishonorable discharge.
check.
Military never reported above to the FBI, so subject passed a mandatory background check for firearm purchase and carry license.
check.
I will stop here because I am quite sure anyone reading here is not at all surprised this individual gunned down 26 people and critically wounded 11 others at a church service. What I am certainly also sure of is that what surprises people at this point is that nobody alerted LE (or anyone else apparently) to the risk.
B
@ATG. 99.1% of the people who need inpatient treatment—emphasis on word treatment as these are hospitals (I made that stat up)—are not persons who will shoot up strangers with an automatic.
Such confinement of a potentially acting psychopath would be imprisonment and would happen only
after some lessor antisocial act was adjudicated.
@TRuth. He also ran a “health & wellness” consultancy,
iirc it’s on bottom of his linkedin. I was wondering if he sold
or used any products.
Thanks for finding those older Patton stories, Rose. Interesting that they seem to be disappeared from the net, other than the archived blog page you came up with, which show zero comments. My guess is there were plenty of comments and sometimes additional information can be gleaned by them.
And this:
“Patton was not immediately arrested because he agreed to resign his $95,000-a-year job at the school Jan. 1 and have no contact with minors while the attorneys negotiated the plea agreement.”
Why was he given special treatment? Principals and teachers who are out raping young children get preferential treatment?
“Patton also showed the boy child pornography stored on a laptop computer, prosecutor Robert Hull said. The computer contained sexually explicit stories, including one depicting an encounter involving a principal, students and a school teacher.”
Acting or reality show?
This dude makes me ill, and just proves the point that there is no rehabilitation for these pedophiles. (As much as his attorney seemed to think so.)
If that is not horrific reporting its illegal. Nobody can trade a felony charge for an employment resignation at any time.
B
http://blog.oregonlive.com/oregonianextra/2008/02/patton.html
Ooops, from same link Rose gave above.
@ A Texas Grandfather says:
November 9, 2017 at 5:31 pm
Thanks for the description of the town, similar to the area I live, even the old Turkey business, not anymore though, just wild ones everywhere.
I’m surprised the media didn’t find out the names of the other adult men that were with Patton. Aren’t you? Were they never charged after all?
@TRuth. Article said onegot probation and one 25 years. Where were the stories in 2011 about this group? Maxine Bernstein “covered” Courts & Crime. Did any have to register as SOs? esp Anonymous Probationer.
who was the Judge(s)? Were Court transcripts sealed? I bet defense attys argued
the 12 yo was a delinquent who was contributory. Reminds me of
Seattle Ed Murray who was never charged in Portland despite a foster child’s report.
OT It was a Bad conduct d/c, not a dishonorable, which has caused discussion that in military trial venues such as his peers decide penalty, not Military Judge, & thus in domestic situations penalties for domestic violence are notably light compared to civilian statutes.
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imo re reporting and management. Goes back to a low education and literacy level in that area of TX.
Rose, I appreciate you fact checking me on that- you are 100% correct. While a DD is the most severe of the punitive discharges, it is the civilian equivalent of a felony, while apparently the assault that had him courtmartialed after a year in the brig was not. How you can be guilty of fracturing a toddlers skull and that is termed as “less serious” nobody will ever explain that to me reasonably. The bottom line here is the signs seem to keep being there, in this case years in advance, and then in one day we all learn how entirely preventable this apparently was.
B
thank you TRuth. dated 06/10: http://www.pridesource.com/article.html?article=41773
Sports, shaved head.
the assault was one year later, 2011
child had to testify against 5 men!
Where did the ADA Amity Girt go? Certainly not
the Gov’s Office like a female work colleague..
http://www.pqmonthly.com/fabulous-pdx-publisher-rob-patton-sentenced-in-child-sex-abuse-case/13653
There was a gay mens’ basketball team, the Ballers, practicing at Skyline that
school year, iirc Wed nites. They had a lotta stuff on the
internet about the team which disappeared. iirc they moved practices the next year. wonder
who was on the 2010 roster?
Girt’s still an ADA: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/06/portland_police_had_name_of_su.html
from the 2010 url posted just above
“Patton says, “We’re as likely to have flyers and posters at gyms and bike shops as gay bars. We’re working the gay angle, and also the sports angle.”
Of course, there is also a Team Oregon Facebook group.”
What gyms? Which one did Team members work out at?
Is the FB site alive? Can a FB user look at 2010 membership?
Well, gay bars—Teammates would have crossed paths with Adams per his asst’s memo.
Bike shops? isnt that an Underhill passionate sport?
this is the League the Skyline-practicing team
played in, but I see neither a Mens’ nor Gay
rec team category now.
http://portlandbasketball.com
T. Ruth says:
May 7, 2014 at 3:09 pm
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-71/#comment-2220656
Links to Adams’ “do you know this man” tweet are now Not Found.
in hindsite given his aide’s 6 pg memo Adams as likely got directed
2 this photo by a bar familiar as by a briefing from ppb or mcda.
Feb 2010. Elderly bodybuilder who founded Team Oregon which Patton was Pres of in 2010.
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/02/portland_bodybuilder_68_shephe.html
Lets clear up some misconceptions about the weapon used at Sutherland springs. The weapon is NOT an automatic although the AR-15 rifle can be modified to be automatic like the M-16 military rifle. It is a gas-operated semi-automatic as sold to the public. It requires a pull of the trigger to fire a round. The gases produced by the firing of the round are partially captured. The captured gas is used to operate a mechanism that opens the breach,extracts the spent casing and allows the spring loaded magazine to push another round into the firing chamber. All of this happens very rapidly. A 30 round magazine could be emptied in less than 30 seconds.
The round used is a magnum round with a lot more powder than a regular hunting round. The muzzle velocity of the round is between 2,700 and 3100 fps.-about four times the speed of sound. Muzzle velocity is how fast the round is moving as it exits the barrel.
I agree with Blink’s list of behaviors and the real reason that these types are able to do their ugly deeds. Everyone needs to pay attention to the behaviors of people around them. If any of them fit Blink’s list, proper authorities should be notified. It also means that people need to educate themselves about these behaviors.
Rose is correct about the ability of most police officers to be accurate with handguns,rifles or shotguns. It takes a lot of practice to be accurate in a stressful situation. Most LE organizations do not budget properly for the ammunition or the training time for their officers. This leaves the officer a choice of spending their own money or just try and get by with existing skills. Shooting skills will be lost if proper practice is not maintained.
For anyone unaware the firearm in question is a Ruger AR 556.
B
eww has 2 posts by a purported philippines-based boyfriend
http://www.pqmonthly.com/fabulous-pdx-publisher-rob-patton-sentenced-in-child-sex-abuse-case/13653
whose FB puts him as a chapter member of a younger man’s rotary club
there is a twitter acct @teamoregon2010
contents r local gay events so prob is Pres Patton.
Follows 4, 1 is Patton.
http://www.oregonlive.com/milwaukie/index.ssf/2012/07/former_sherwood_high_principal.html
Odd, no comments under this story either.
https://www.leagle.com/decision/infdco20131007418
Found this on the Patton case ^^^^
oh, I didn’t fact check you. I’d seen discussion pointing out military peers, not judges, sentence in mil dv cases such that sentences (ie bad conduct d/c) are lighter (than dishonorable as well as prison term) than a military or civilian judge gives.
o/t: Much appreciated just the same- I encourage it. You know how I am about sticking to facts
On that note, a very general comment you have probably seen me reference previously- as a country, I think we need to do a much better job screening, training and reporting on our service personnel. I have a colleague who actually changed careers from being an award winning journalist to an Attorney because he was assigned to an embedded piece re domestic violence on military bases. It was developed the year prior to 9/11 at a cost of nearly $800k and after 9/11 it was perceived as “unpatriotic” and scrapped. He resigned that afternoon. Military life in general and deployment for most is incredibly stressful and in many ways unnatural compared to civilian life. If you have an individual who has mental or behavioral issues going in- it is more than likely going to exacerbate them and often does. If you (not you, but someone reading this) or someone you love might benefit from some PTSD education I highly recommend Dr. Glenn Schiraldi’s The Post Traumatic Stress Disorder SOurcebook (2nd Ed). ANYONE suffering from even the most mild effects of PTSD regardless of origin will find this work knowledgeable and therapeutic.
B
$749.00 http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/gun-review-ruger-ar-556/#ar-556-swmpam15-lead
how did he finance it on a security guard salary w/wife & 2 kids?
Someone I suggest may be a suit target soon.
Blink
I posted in #24 of this page the model and make of the shooters weapon.
The model number is derived from the NATO 5.56mm round that it fires. That round is a small light round that depends on the high velocity to do its damage, This means that a soldier can carry more rounds than they can when using a .303 caliber such as the AK-47. There is some fallacy in this thinking because of the knock-down power of the larger .303 cal. The smaller lighter 5.56mm round also has less recoil than a .303 which makes it easier to get back on the target after a round is fired.
This also means that a magazine for the 5.56mm round is smaller and easier to fit into a pocket of a shooter such as the one in the church at Sutherland Springs.
Thank you ATG
B
tells you allyou need to know about OR Bar & ethics.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/post_33.html
ADA negotiates plea for repeated 1st degree child molestation with defendant and his criminallawyers.
ADA resigns and becomes victim’s civil attorney getting a tort settlement from defendant for victim without litigating a tort bcz Def agree to the payout in the prior plea deal. Last I heard civil attorneys with sex abuse of minor tort settlements get big %s of the payout.
To my knowledge any contingency case is between a 1/3 or in some cases a 1/4 based on retainer agreement, regardless of whether or not it progresses to trial. That said the payouts and distribution are almost exclusively confidential and a specific term of the settlement so only a court order to do so would yield that information.
Am I the only one that finds it outrageous that a DDA makes a deal based on a civil tort that I am quite sure would have resulted in a similar jury award anyway- if not more, in this case in 2010… AND THEN fast forward to the recent acquittal of the SPED assistant who actually tried to NOT have the toileting responsibility through his Union rep, and the DA actually prosecutes him based on a victim who cannot communicate in any way besides her Mom interpretation of yes or no- and the Judge notes same? I have no doubt the latter will receive a sizable settlement, but what sort of assessments are going on in that office to proceed to trial these days?
B
B
I was looking up Patton’s apparent pimp who testified against him. He’s on this list.
https://docfnc.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/washington-county-jail-14/
The memo is interesting. $3M/yr to jail adjudicated criminal aliens in one County.
So, is this some sort of subsidy stance? I have absolutely no experience researching or analyzing DOC overhead or subsidized revenue streams or the like. I think it would be super interesting as a general topic to know the average times illegal criminals have been deported from the county/state.
B
https://www.leagle.com/decision/infdco20131007418
this gives 5 names, ultimately arrested in Washington County though that Dept detective took his sweet time given it was sex abuse and apparently never put the minors in protective care. Beaverton PD detective despite a 5 month or soinvestigation was useless. Portland PD detective was also slow to me & seemed to be in it only to target Patton.