Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Brad, Baez and Baden Can’t Read
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Discovery Review Part I
Orlando, FL– In the last 2 weeks in the case against infamous tot-mom Casey Anthony, The defense appears to be in an all out media blitz to support their recent motions for dismissal. Most legal analysts feel they have missed the deadline for such tactics, and that could very well be the reason for the affront on public opinion recently.
The blinkoncrime.com editors have been scouring the recent discovery release.
There are some very compelling facts the Spin Twins de Baez have conveniently overlooked.
The Duct Tape
Reported exclusively at blinkoncrime.com last June, the Henkel Duck tape industrial grade was located on the skull of Caylee Marie, the gas can and the shed at the Anthony residence. Today, WFTV after rifiling through some old footage, reminds us what we already knew.
(Editors note: Say what you will about Kathy Belich, that Dom Casey cheat sheet with her picture and “disseminating hatred towards the family” remark had her in that news room with a whip and a hot iron all day until they found it– I don’t blame her.)
Yesterday at Brad Conway’s client driven press conference, he specifically referenced there are no fingerprints on the duct tape. I heard it again this morning by Linda Kenney Baden.
Let’s break this down folks, shall we?
On NO document, that we have seen, does it state anywhere that there are no prints on that duct tape. Specifically, I am referring to FBI Evidence ID Q62, Q63 and Q64.
In fairness to the defense, with a combined experience mean of 2o years in the “expert” fields, less Jose “josebgood@yahoo.com” Baezs’ token 3 years, I can see how such academics could come to that conclusion for the time being.
Within the response to Kenney Baden’s discovery request from the FBI, this statement appears:
THE FBI DID NOT RECEIVE LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE
It does not say “latent impressions”, which in the forensic “speak” means all friction ridge detail images.
Seriously? With a woman’s very life hanging in the balance we are expected to believe such a panel does not know the difference between a latent lift and a friction ridge image in 2009? Not to be glib, but as a practical matter, as a layperson, just imagine when your scotch tape slips off the cutter and you stand there for 10 minutes trying to thread it again with your fingernail. If that did not immediately furrow your brow, you will be wrapping all the christmas presents this year.
These assertions by the defense team are nothing more than an attempt to double dare the State to open their Kimono. Insert euphamisms at will.
As a matter of fact, a close look at the examination protocol used by the FBI, tells a very, very different story.
Tape Q62, Q63, Q64 is originally presented NOT to be tested for DNA. Who gets it first? Latent Print U and Chem. Why is this important? Because the two work together when we are talking about applying chemically based “lifting” techniques such as sticky powder, for example.
Yes, before you ask, this is where the heart sticker residue is seen by LPU on the NON ADHESIVE side prior to it’s own testing procedures. That residue is consumed and no longer visible in this phase. You can assume LPU saw that image under ALS, not visible to the evidence collection unit or ECU.
Occurring simultaneously, lets also assume a conscious decision is made to procure the latent images on the adhesive side of Q63, even at the risk of the consumption or ruin of residue of the alleged heart sticker that everyone already knew would not yield DNA.
Who thinks there are no other digital originals of the duct tape, bearing the sticker residue from the Medical Examiners Officer or CSI in the field? While I agree the residue chemistry itself may have been probative, this was not the woopsie the defense would lead you to believe.
LPU was assigned to do visual oversight when the Trace evidence unit, or TEU receives the samples next. Ms. Fontaine has a T shirt she wears under her lab coat for just such an occasion.
It reads: DONT BE SWABBIN ON MY PRINT on the front, on the back it reads: I’LL JUST WAIT TO BE SURE.
Is that so that their friction ridge was not destroyed? OF COURSE.
Next stop The Questioned Documents Unit, or QDU. For those unfamiliar, this is another “ARod” Jose Baez so astutely coined the analogy when referring to Dr. Neal Haskell being on the State’s expert list. This is where the mysterious “contamination” occurs. Brad Conway went as far as to say yesterday that this was a mysteryperson, a possible unsub if you will. Ms. Baden said it could be an alternative culprit. Yeesh.
It is clearly stated in the report that CONWAY released, that the ID from the partial profile, is Lorie Gottesman, of the QDU.
I am quite sure Ms. Gottesman has an alibis for June 16th. Perhaps this is a good thing as I hear Ms. Gottesman is well versed in expert testimony.
Ppppssst. There are 2 other samples of the duct tape, all 3 latent results have not been released except to say that George, Lee and Cindy have been excluded.
Wouldn’t you have to have a control latent to compare them to in order to exclude A N Y O N E?
Their ARE prints, folks. Eazy Peazy.
While we are on the subject of the tape, textile fibers WERE recovered from Q62 and Q64 and Q66 (house duct tape) and preserved for future testing.
It was not true to say there was no transfer evidence whatsoever, how would they know when those tests have not either been preformed or the results completed? Ms. Baden feels the public is being misled?
I would offer the misleading is being orchestrated by misinterpretation.
The decision was made to consider testing the tape for DNA after an initial pre-amplified DNA result came back from Baby Caylees tibia (I apologize for the graphic).
To be continued, blinkoncrime.com
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Just watched Cindy’s rant (thanks for the link Kleat!). I found myself actually trying to catch my breath. It was like someone literally wound her up and let her go. OMG! And I agree with ProvokingP. She is so full of herself, there was no sign of sadness for her missing granddaughter, none at all during that 11 minutes on camera. I used to think she was on some heavy duty drugs, but I’m thinking that’s the real Cindy. That’s what her family has lived with for all those years. She’s always right. She never shuts up. She won’t let you even get a word in edgewise. Can you imagine what life in that house must have been like?? Scary.
Oh,Apologies Blink—appears as if my question got posted after you answered it depth with other inquiries before it. =)
Following your thought process now…. this will be interesting how it all plays out. And as you have reminded us all along—there ARE prints = more nails in Casey’s coffin. Still think that it’s positive conjecture that the case will not even make it to trial…. but it’s good reasoning and hopefully you will be correct yet once again!
…….Just can’t see the Anthony family (who are so deep in denial) EVER admitting to anything—-especially Casey. Also don’t think we will ever hear from Lee again—his silence does mean something, indeed. After it’s all said and done, he or Cindy will probably write a tell-all book. I agree with others…. Casey Anthony will take her deep, dark secret with her to her grave and never speak about what she did to her beautiful child ever again.
*********** JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY ************
While driving out to the pumpkin patch this afternoon, I had some time to think and, of course, my mind automatically goes to Casey Anthony. (I really wish it wouldn’t that!) Was thinking about when she had the opportunity to talk to one person in her family alone and she chose her father. We’ve been led to believe that she hated him. So why choose daddy? I think it’s because she knows she’s safe when it comes to Cindy and Lee. They are both on her side no matter what is said and/or proven to be the truth. Cindy is an excellent pathological liar and Lee’s expertise falls somewhere between outright lying and cleverly dodging the questions. Then there’s George…. He’s the weak link in that family dynamic and Casey knows it. She’s got to get to him, talk to him, get him to feel sorry for her, possibly get him to feel guilty about what’s happened. He’s the one who has the conscience; he’s the one who wants the truth; he’s the one who’s the former cop and has questioned a lot of things over the past 15 months. Maybe that was the reason for Casey’s crying jag at the last hearing. She only has a few opportunities to get daddy totally into the family storyline. He’s not a good liar; we’ve all seen way too much evidence of that. She knows that too. So she has to get to him on a different level. And now maybe it’s her tears that will do it. Or maybe the tears were because she knows that if she goes down for this, it will be because of that man who was right in front of her. Daddy’s gonna crumble and Casey’s gonna pay.
Amy left the following message on Casey’s Facebook on May 26, the day after the Anything But Clothes party:
“You lost my duct tape. I was excited to have so much left. That’s why (sic) I get for giving you my purse.”
Well then Maura, I would say Amy had duct tape at one time, thanks.
What did you make of her lack of memory on the issue?
B
#141, ProvokingPoirot: Your comments about Cindy’s ego appear to be lifted out of my very own psyche. I could not have said it better myself. Quoting Cindy: “…I went over to Nick Savage, FBI, and we’re planning a pow-wow next week.” Note the use of the word ‘WE.’ Most anyone else would have said “Nick Savage has agreed to meet with me,” of words to that effect.
Cindy views herself as a peer of an FBI agent; she is Mr Savage’s equal. Cindy showed the same attitude with the sheriff’s office, saying things like “Here’s what I want you to focus on.” “Here’s who I think you should look into.” “Here’s what you need to do.” (All paraphrased, of course, & just examples.)
Today I read the “Characters of Interest” list, in reality just a list of those banned from Caylee’s memorial service. Most of those banished are accused of “Disseminating hatred towards the Family.” (Note the capitalizing of “family.”) I did get quite a laugh out of it, as the whole list is just absurd, but at the same time I felt my blood chill.
This list, coupled with Cindy’s threats to Tim Miller (paraphrased): “Do not try to cross my family. You will not win,” clearly indicate that Cindy thinks she has the power of a Mafia don, & relishes wielding such abusive power. Every single person who utters an opinion on this case that runs counter to Cindy’s dictates is seen as launching a personal attack.
Reading the contents of Cindy’s emails and this “Characters of Interest” list has brought out such feelings of disgust & revulsion toward Cindy. While I have not held a high opinion of Cindy since decomposition mysteriously turned into pizza, reading this stuff in the doc dump convinces me that Cindy is truly a vile human being. She is beneath my contempt.
Blink,
I hope you are right about the plea deal, but do you think Cindy may try to stop Casey if it comes down to that in some way? I feel as if Cindy’s motives for protecting Casey aren’t really because Casey is her daughter, I believe Cindy is trying to protect “her own image”, and that of her family. Cindy doesn’t want to be remembered as the mother of a convicted murderer… I would think deep inside Cindy despises Casey for what she has done to Caylee. Not to think about what has happened I believe she goes on this crazy mission of trying to protect Casey because it takes her mind off of what happened to Caylee. How sad for Caylee…My heart just breaks that Caylee has been forgotten by her own family.
#67…. Trauma, Casey had no Trauma. The only think she feared was
Cindy…… she was scared shitless of her mother.
2. Duct Tape; when there is a hurricane on our heals,one
get to the home depot, or any store for that matter. All supplies
sell out fast. You are stuck with what is left onthe shelf. So
I believe that is how they come into this special tape. when you
have no shutters, we use tape to protect our windows from blowing
in… keeps all the glass together. The stronger the better, I
wounder if there is any residue on the windowns at the ant’s home.
If you don’t get it off fast after the storm, the sun will melt it
quick… so maybe that is why they had that kind. Nice and Strong!
I think she bought it for the party. She sent Casey an email just before the party saying she had an idea for a costume that involved cutting up and then taping a tube top and skirt that she planned to purchase when she got off work a few hours before the party. She only had it in her possession for a few hours since she bought it for the Anything But Clothes party and it had disappeared by the next day.
That’s why she complained that Casey had lost a roll that still had a lot left – she had just bought it and hardly used any of it (although Troy Brown has a lot of duct tape on him at that party to hold up his plastic bubble wrap costume, so she probably shared it).
When she was asked about the duct tape, after the discovery of the remains on December 11, the party had been seven months earlier. To me, there is nothing suspicious about her failure to recall having had a roll of duct tape since she had it for less than 24 hours seven months earlier.
I don’t expect people to have perfect memories and instant recall, especially about things that were fleeting and did not have any significance at the time they happened.
I agree Maura. I did not and do not find anything Amy H said suspect.
Page 3380 of discovery http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740699/detail.html
On Dec. 14, OCSO met with Tony Lazarro and Amy H, and neither could “remember Casey ever having in her possession any packing supplies (IE duct tape)” or for that matter, what she stored her dirty laundry in.
Gawd, I sure hope they asked them specifically about duct tape instead of vaguely asking about packing supplies. I don’t think of duct tape as a packing supply, I think of packing tape and tape guns and boxcutters and cardboard boxes and paper as packing supplies. I think of duct tape as something you use for repairs.
So maybe Amy didn’t lie—maybe she just didn’t realize they were asking about duct tape.
Great article, Blink! Jeanine Pirro, former Westchester DA – now TV Judge, was on Fox & Friends this morning stating some of the very same disinformation & flawed analysis you’ve disproved in this post. Looks like she should spend a little more time studying the material she’s being brought on as an expert to comment on. Or at the very least, read Blink On Crime.
She actually took a couple of shots at bloggers, as if they didn’t have credibility because they blog. Her comments were in reference to a woman who’s returning a baby she adopted 18 months ago because she failed to bond with the child. Evidently the adoptive mom blogged about her experiences with this newborn baby boy who was found abandoned by a roadside in South America. I failed to see the point she was trying to make with regard to blogging.
I was fond of Judge Pirro in her jurisdiction, not terribly far from me. I have learned with few exceptions, pundits are not journalists or researchers. They are reacting to information they are given. For me, I choose to intelectually invest in original content. Non-blogger types blame bloggers because if they substantiate them, they would have to read there.
B
First of all, I like your style Blink, and even more than your style, I admire your tenacity. I’ve been going back…waaay back…listening to and watching vintage Cindy (yes my head is pounding), but what I cannot find is the bond hearing video…I mean the Whole Cindy Episode in its entirety. I had it at one time,so I know it exists. There are snippets of it on youtube, the longest being seven minutes and some seconds, but I need the whole enchilada. Can anyone help?
Blink and Maura, I’d like to know for sure, that it was Amy who posted that to Casey’s Facebook– and not Casey using Amy’s computer.
I only know of Amy, what I have heard her say in her interview audios, and one media video, and read most of the available text messages, but taking that limited knowledge into experience, something does not seem to be ‘Amy’. This is a young woman who is a good friend to Casey, even to the point of lending her, her car, even after Casey jammed out on her about helping her pick up her car in Jacksonville. Amy helped when Casey asked, and even with the ‘missing cash’ and Casey’s ‘story’ of Amy sleepwalking, Amy wasn’t posting to Casey about that– she took her lumps (as far as we have heard) and accepted that money was gone.
Amy took a polygraph, didn’t she? Because that could surely help investigators discover whether there was a tape issue or not, and if there is deception about something as ‘innocent’ as duct tape on May 26th. It seems that Amy wouldn’t have any reason to lie and even so, she took a polygraph, didn’t she? That would certainly be a question that investigators would raise.
Mr. Baez just spoke on Geraldo…Geraldo asked Baez why Casey isn’t taking a plea deal…Baez answer was “that’s up to Casey”! Another defense atty. on the show told Geraldo after hearing Mr. Baez speak Baez should have answered- no plea, she is innocent. I guess Mr. Baez himself no longer believes Casey’s innocent?!
I want to pull my own hair after that. All I can say in this demographic.
*bleep*
B
Looking for a video of that Baez latest on Geraldo– and can’t believe that this is on Fox– I thought there was NO blood! What the heck– I’ll check the emails again, but if there was blood, wouldn’t that be slightly big news? (I’m sure there is no blood– I know this is FOX, but really!)
“An FBI forensics lab identified a blood stain outline of a child in the fetal position in the trunk liner of accused child killer Casey Anthony’s car, according to newly released documents.
The information came in an e-mail from FBI Intelligence Analyst Karen B. Cowan to another agency employee written on Tuesday, Sept. 30, 2008.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,557480,00.html
Kleat, awesome catch, there is and never was a positive field or lab test for HEMO in that trunk. Let alon the “stain”
nicely done.
B
As per Barb’s post about Baez on Geraldo– Part one is on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgGJ9KnbEYo
Well, Blink, I have to make up for my scrambling attempts this morning to get you a link for that ‘bold faced’ Cindy lie!! I tell ya, that woman wears ya out just trying to keep up with her speed of spewing words! Sorry for the duplicates– but knew you’d be fumin’ if I didn’t get it posted!
Yeah– that bloody stain is so rediculous– what idiot created that– obviously someone who CAN NOT READ!!
I just want to make a correction to my post #60 about the 18 prints. Debidoll also I think referenced this. The 18 prints and 8 print areas are from items in the Anthony home, in particular DVD’s and tapes (Bambi to be specific) and a pump. See:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18530350/detail.html (See pages 18-19) This would be pages 3233 and 3234 of discovery.
When I read LKB’s motion, I wondered where she had gotten info on “18 Prints” and when you go to that page (3233) sure enough, they add up to 18 and the following page discussed the 8 areas in more detail. So, my bad, but wanted to clarify to anyone else that may have had the same impression I did that LKB was referring to print info not yet released. Not so, or so we know, eh?
Narcissism– Oprah picked up on it today with an an article by Erin E. White titled “It’s Time for an Ego Check” http://www.oprah.com/article/spirit/emotionalhealth/20090907-orig-time-for-ego-check
The online article begins with a general dictionary definition:
“Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized especially by an exaggerated sense of self-importance, persistent need for admiration, lack of empathy for others, excessive pride in achievements, and snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes” — Merriam-Webster Dictionary
wpgmouse, lol on the seatbelts for your cheeze!! (do you usually sit on your foodstuffs???
Usually the posts show up on my computer, even before they send. It was only the posts with the links added, that didn’t work last night and today– but thinking about it, this site is growing, and so it’s not surprising that it’s taking more time, and more controls to manage. Even for our own amazing Blink! Really– it’s hard enough to keep up with reading here, nevermind Blink reading everything with enough attention to comment on so many posts and also keep up with writing and investigating, and mommy-dutying.
‘post’– ‘send’– what the heck, I give up on keeping my words straight!!!
(I have to cut down on the Cindy videos… to maybe one per every couple months, at most!!)
Be gentle, I’m new. I saw your site on the discovery, if Cindy wanted you shut down… I had to come! I was wondering about page 132 of the docs. It says there is 2 metal brackets with duct tape. I never noticed this before.. do they need the Belich (gotta love her) tape evidence. Why have we not heard anything about this tape? I have to believe it’s the same.
This statement below on top of 31 days seals the deal for me! This has been my feelings from the beginning in regards to the A’s fingerprints being excluded (Cin, Geo, Lee) NOT CASEY! No brainer.
Thanks Blink, best article to date IMO you Rock!
“Ppppssst. There are 2 other samples of the duct tape, all 3 latent results have not been released except to say that George, Lee and Cindy have been excluded.
Wouldn’t you have to have a control latent to compare them to in order to exclude A N Y O N E?
Their ARE prints, folks. Eazy Peazy.”
#161 Lori,
I always check out Sierra 1947 on you tube she(?) has all the posting of everything and or Floridakatz both great sites Nifter Media is another great one.
Blink I hoe that was ok to share.
I hoe, no I am not a hoe I mean hope
Kleat thanks for this small reminder video, I watched it again and I am confused, I don’t understand how a grandmother could spew so much garbabge out of her mouth and show so much anger, this was in October of last year I think (correct me if I am wrong)just a few short months since her granddaughter had been missing, I think back to watching Sharon Rocah (Laci Petersons Mom) and Danielle Vandam mother speak to the press during the time their daughters were missing and during the trials and I don’t think I remeber a time once that they didn’t have tears in their eyes, eyes swollen from lack of sleep, total saddness visble in the every aspect of their being begging and pleading for the return of their children, I don’t think arguing with the media and other folks about silly issues that, I would think, don’t matter, the only thing that would matter would be finding the child period. I saw rage and I doubt it was over Caylee being missing.
Cindy just rants and rants for 11 minutes, I would have spent that precious 11 minutes on tv begging and pleading for my grandchild, did she even at the end of this video say “oh and by the way, if you know where my granddaughter is please call, if you have her please bring her home we want our grnaddaughter back”…Answer….NOPE
I can’t wait to see this mess end and watch Cindy eat a huge plate of Crow. Do you think they serve that at the Ritz?
http://www.wftv.com/video/18149829/index.html
#60 Kew **BRAVO**
Bing Bango, how did that taste Baaaeeeez?
159 Suz
THANK YOU!!!
I’ve been as caught up as everyone else in the “Amy contradicted herself” speculation, Amy Huizenga and Tony Lazzaro were asked if they could recall whether CASEY ever had packing supplies like duct tape; they weren’t asked if they personally owned duct tape, so there is no contradiction between Amy’s statement to OCSO and the May 26 message she left on Casey’s Facebook page: “You lost my duct tape. I was excited to have so much left. That’s why (sic) I get for giving you my purse.”
From a supplemental report:
“On December 14th, Corporal Edwards and I visited Anthony Lazzaro at his residence. When asked, Anthony couldn’t remember Casey ever having in her possession any packing supplies (IE: Duct tape). He also didn’t recall what Casey would use to story dirty laundry. Anthony allowed us to look through his apartment for any plastic bags. We found no black plastic bags similar to the ones found with the body.
We then met with Amy Huizenga at her residence. When asked, Amy couldn’t remember Casey ever having in her possession any packing supplies (IE: Duct tape). She also didn’t recall what Casey would use to store dirty laundry. We saw no black plastic bags similar to the ones found with the body. Amy still had the gas can she purchased with Casey in late June. She voluntarily relinquished this item to Corporal Edwards. The empty gas can was later submitted into evidence.” (Discovery page 3380)
# 155 Marcy…agree that the Anthonys resemble a mob family –the Sopranos — on a couple of levels. First and foremost, they’re all… ACTORS! Give these people SAG cards!
Cindy’s rambling, never-ending “poor me, I’m starved and sleepless but such a wonderful mother” monologues. Gack! All the LE guys have to be seeing therapists.
George’s smarmy attempts at shmoozing with LE. He’s just one of the LE guys and “leveling” (as long as Cindy and Lee aren’t around) followed later by his fits of orchestrated sissy pique. (How DARE you, sir! Cue eyebrow lift. How dare you!”)
Lee’s Romeo-inspired CMA outburst’s at the memorial and his fiercly feminine-like web rants to friends about his ex-lover.
Then there’s Casey’s first appearance in court wearing the blue hoodie and a sly smile like a starlet on the red carpet. “Ready for my close up, Judge!” And of course sweetheart’s little fists of fury demonstration when she and mom competed for star turns at the clink.
Starring the *Anthony Thespians* and a cast of… a few odd lots.
(Speaking of odd, is anybody else curious about the full story of Casey’s and Lee’s mix and match love affairs with the CA marine and his “psycho ex-wife”? (Okay, I’m bad. Too gossipy. Will never come into trial.) Remember Casey’s texted reason to somebody for her staying away from the Anthony home for nine days? “D-r-a-a-m-a…”. For once, she could be telling the truth.
The second way (a little more subliminal)in which the Anthony’s resemble the Sopranos is that because the heavy psych stuff going down for lo these many years, the family is a closed shop. Insular and united against outsiders. In that small world, they decide what is a crime and how they and only they (read Cindy) will administer the just punishment for said wrong-doing.
Misdeeds? We’ll take care of it. What happens in the family, stays in the family. That’s the reason why few outsiders, especially not LE, were called during those red-flagged 31 days. Worry was eating Cindy alive, but all the concern stayed close to the family vest. Cindy forgot the script for the Missing Caylee episode, and in her real panic, extemporized and called 911. That is what is driving them all bughouse, now.
In her world, Cindy decides Casey’s guilt herself, and administer the correct punishment. Detective, judge, jury — that’s Cindy. If she hadn’t made those fateful calls to LE, she’d have been telling friends and relatives a heart-rending story about Casey and Caylee making a new start to bond somewhere on a distant planet. If that tape wouldn’t play, Cindy would have another one ready in much the same way she could always devise a different paternity for Caylee.
Poor little Caylee was just a supporting player in the Anthony drama. She had/has such a tiny voice in that family. I can’t abide them.
Kleat, the problem with Casey posting a message ostensibly from Amy on her own facebook page is that Amy would or could see it and say to herself or to casey or others, hey, that’s weird, I didn’t post that message. THAT is something that would stand out in one’s mind, as opposed to (as Maura said) an otherwise insignificant roll of tape.
Are you thinking the duct tape part of the crime (may 26 facebook message plus use of tape on caylee) was premeditated in order to frame Amy? Interesting if so, but I think with Casey’s (low, imho) level of criminal genius, she would have left Amy’s stack of resumes at the scene, or planted something in Amy’s car while she had it instead of doing weeks-ahead planting of a facebook message. For me it always comes down to whether the same dunce who doesn’t seem to know what to do with the dead body is capable of premeditating anything—much less something as subtle as a duct tape message.
BLINK: I asked this question yesterday…if Baez and his ensemble knew back in March that there are prints…did he tell the Anthonys? If he did tell the Anthonys, why would they continue this behavior? I mean denial is one thing but when LE says…okay GA and CA we do have prints on the tape, covereing Caylee’s mouth and those prints belong to your daughter you would think they would stop this madness.
Yesterday early on I brought up the Amy tape story and the reason I did is because although I am not good at remembering every detail to this case some of her lies have stuck with me…Isn’t it ironic we hear about duct tape with Amy, duct tape on Caylee, duct tape on the gas can, duct tape on a pole…how many of us in our normal day to day living have contact with the duct tape in our homes.
Baez is under no obligation to provide discovery to the Anthony’s, ever. In fact, he has only ever given them anything in an effort to enflame them, imo. I believed Maura addressed this last evening, IIRC, both Lazzarro and Amy were asked if they ever were aware of Casey having any packing supplies, (tape) they both said no. No deception indicated.
B
#176 MsE’
I was thinking more along the lines of the “Simpsons”
Accordiing to Richard Hornsby and Bill Schaeffer, the motions to drop the first 2 counts of the indictment should have been made almost a year ago and the charges will not be dropped. However, If Strickland does not at least hear arguments on them can Casey use this later as ineffective assistance of council? Help anyone!
Baez on Geraldo was interesting to say the least. So, her own atty says ‘it’s up to her”? How about advising your client that there isn;t a chance in hell she will be found “NOT GUILTY”. Even if they move the trial to the MOON….How about letting your client know with all the evidence they got, SHE’S SCREWED? As far as the “stain” in the trunk….it wasn’t blood. I thought I read it was body fluid from decomp…..Yeah know Blink….with all the “evidence” and other info on this case….I find it totally amazing that Casey is not moved to the least…It all seems to have NO EFFECT on her…..She just sits there ans smiles and carries on as if she herself thinks Caylee is gonna walk into the court room. What kinda mind does she actually have…I find her frightening….totally frightening. And to think her own enabling mother feeds off of her. What a family of mind freaks. What is it with this families brains? How does a mother and father NOT see Casey is hmmmmm….a head case? I can’t say insane…she is hardly that…perhaps cunning like a fox? there is clearly something NOT right about her personality ……
About the duct tape on those brackets in the shed (not garage as I’d thought).
Page 3592 and identically on 3740 of discovery http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740700/detail.html:
item #63, “2 metal brackets w/ duct tape — S. Shed” —-but it doesn’t have a “Q” number like for example the “gas can w/ duct tape — S. Shed” on the same page (tem #65 labeled Q76).
So do we assume that item 63 was never sent to the FBI because maybe the tape didn’t have those big HENKEL markings on it? Whereas Q100 (pg 3597) that other piece of HENKEL tape found at the remains site (coincidentally? or perhaps used to bind hands or feet?) WAS sent to the lab.
Blinc, with all due respect and admiration, please have your bloggers spell Kathi Belich’s name correctly. kathI Thank you! Once again, why is this going to trial? Their only defense is to pay off a juror or threaten a member of a juror’s family. No other way to defend this.
I know this might be a question asked and answered a long time ago and I apologize for being off topic, but going thru some older information on the case concerning the A’s tampering with the car, my question is this:
The A’ brought the car home, is it my understanding Cindy went back to work that day, could Cindy have gotten chloroform from her job in an attempt to clean the trunk, being a nurse I would think she may very well know the different uses of chloroform, she attempted to clean out the smell from the trunk? Forgive my ignorance this just came to mind….
172 thank you Dee. I checked and all I can find are the seven minute snippets. Just as well. Listening to Cindy makes my ears bleed.
Is it just me, or is Jose Baez the dumbest lawyer to ever practice law? He’s the lead counsel for a young woman facing the death penalty, if convicted. WTF is he doing on Fox News being interviewed by the hyperest of all hypes, Geraldo Rivera? Baez isn’t a serious defender, he’s a publicity-seeking, self-promoting shyster.
And why the hell didn’t Geraldo challenge Baez on all the lies and distortions he made during the interview? What kind of a reporter is he? I’l tell you what, if I have to watch one more second of Jose Baez’s blather, I’m going to borrow that roll of duct tape to wrap my head.
Please tell when this case is going to trial. Poor, pitiful Caylee. Why doesn’t anyone in the Anthony clan, or on the defense, care about justice for this beautiful baby girl?
Hi Blink!
Great reporting, as usual! Question: If the court allows the prosecution to use the media tape showing the Henkel Duck tape used to hang posters, then could the judge’s ruling against the members of a search team being investigated be overturned? The reason I’m asking is b/c a certain sex offender came out representing a certain group in one of the initial searches for Caylee and she was interviewed by Fox. I’m wondering if the defense would be able to use that media interview if this Henkel tape video is allowed. Hope not…just seriously wondering if it can come into play, since she’s been convicted of sex crimes. Many thanks to you and your wonderful reporting.
Also, I’ve tried registering with Scared Monkeys but I’m still waiting for admin approval. I can’t find an email to contact somebody. I’d love to post on the Haleigh Cummings’ and Caylee Anthony’s forums. Anyway you can help? I’ve posted with you a couple of times under a different email, but b/c I post on another forum, I didn’t want to use that same email to join Scared Monkeys b/c I was told that certain forums save ip addresses and email info to track for “trouble makers” if those posters happen to disagree with their sites. Hoping that’s not true, but it is the reason I used a different email. Again, many thanks to you!
Titch, I am not certain I understand the connection between Websleuths, Windchime and the duct tape. Please clarify-
tia
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Lori my ears have not stopped bleeding for what 15 months, I need a blood fusion please, no RH NEG please, I dont want to turn into a “Witch” hehehe
Lol, Blink, your comment in #189 reminds me of an old Carnac the Great bit—-name a collective, a defective, and a protective (or something)
Blink-
Awesome. Well done, you.
Been super busy on a case. Every time I try to check in and catch up here, I end up getting pulled away. I am mainly waiting to hear from Haskell at this point. Do not forget about the bugs, kids. Maggots don’t typically hang out in the trunks of abandoned vehicles. When they do… they can tell some tales. (And I am not referring to the disgusting rice krispy –snap, crackle, pop– sound they make when eating).
Just happened to see #180.
Sighhhhhhhhhh.
A) The judge did not “rule against the members of the search team”. He did not rule that they could (or could not) be “investigated”. He simply granted a defense motion for the production of records. TES is not a party to the case, so the judge can not rule FOR or AGAINST that entity. Try READING THE ORDER, for starters.
B) One (discovery of TES records) has NOTHING to do with the other (duct tape being used to hang posters). (how in the world would anyone make that connection in their head is beyond me)
C) The TES records that Judge Strickland ordered turned over have ALREADY BEEN TURNED OVER. The defense is free to “investigate”. There is no ruling with respect to that. (Again, try reading the Order).
Later, y’all.
Many Thanks Chief, I was just about to send up the flare, lol.
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# 187 Dee, ha! The Simpsons are bumbling, but funny. The Anthonys are bumbling and scary, but you’re right. both are cartoons.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d3-Local-Florida-news-station-may-have-found-duct-tape-link-in-Casey-Anthony-case-video
Hi Bink…
No, I’m not saying there’s a connection at all. I’m “wondering” (literally just wondering) the legalities of it all b/c I have no idea…you’re very knowledgable of these things:) I’m wondering if the court allows for the video showing the Henkel tape being used to put up posters, then could the court end up overturning the ruling on investigating the volunteer searchers? B/c Stipp showed up on video, that’s why I’m asking. It’s my sincerest hope that the judge wouldn’t allow this, and I know the question is a stretch, but I’m not as knowledgable in this area as you or your sources could be. IOW, I would think the prosecution could use media videos showing the tape used in putting up the posters. If the prosecution can do that, I’m wondering if the defense can present to the judge the video of Stipp being one of the volunteer searchers. Also, and this is a big stretch, I’m wondering if that could be one of the reasons they tried to get a list of volunteers – so they could do background checks on people, blame someone else or speculate upon someone else, and in turn create reasonable doubt. I personally feel this defense team are some pretty shady characters…I wouldn’t put anything past them. Capice? I worry that they’ll try to discredit alot of volunteers and they’ll speculate that somebody else could have placed Caylee’s body in that wooded area.
Just so you know where my heart is, I personally don’t think Stipp is involved at all. I think Casey did this all on her own. I’m only wondering the legalities of it all…if it can even come into play. Thanks again, Blink.
Titch
Too my knowledge Terri Stipp was not a TES volunteer at any time. That Blanchard Park debacle was not associated with TES at all.
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Blink, do you have any ideas about G.Rivera’s involvement in the case? I mean the palsy-walsy with Baez? He’s not exactly an F. Lee Bailey. Hmm…a deal with JB for exclusives with Casey during or post trial and no tough questions asked? Could GR/ Fox be funding any part of the defense?
I can tell you that allegation has been made by more than one person, but I can’t confirm it.
B
Geraldo with Baez was Pt1– Geraldo followed that with 3+ minutes with questions from a defense perspective– normally Mickey Sherman (sp) is way out on a defense limb when NG cuts him off (for good ‘annoyance’ reasons).
Listen to what Sherman says this time, at the very end of Pt. 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UJFoLRDW0g
The State has just filed a MOTION TO STRIKE DEFENDANT’S LEGALLY FLAWED MOTION TO DISMISS COUNTS I AND II OF THE INDICTMENT AGAINST CASEY MARIE ANTHONY.
Dee and Lori– Didn’t I plead with you, ‘BEGGED’ in fact, NOT to listen to that whole Cindy 11 1/2 minutes!!
I’d put it on the other night and went and did things, wasn’t listening closely at times, and it went on and on and on in what sounded like one endless sentence. I caught the bit about Kathi Belich and burying the hatchet with Cindy and with the recent Domi Casey’s hate list, that caught my attention, or I’d not likely have listened closely to the end of that video of what, for the first 8 minutes, seemed to be endless circles around the hair brush issue.
The Mark NeJame ‘blame’ took me off guard– couldn’t believe what I was hearing– a baby is MISSING and Cindy says Mark caused them to not speak to investigators. (A redundant ‘WhatTH’???!!)
Most notable to me is the timing of this interview and this comment about Mark– Cindy already had presumed knowledge of the baby’s ‘dumping ground’ after DC ‘cleared’ it as a defense move just over a week earlier. And Cindy had probably not very good things to say about Mark NeJame ‘crossing her’ as he withdrew his representation of the couple (remember Cindy’s threats to Tim Miller, and her hardly veiled threats to Sgt. John Allen in telephone message recordings)– she couldn’t help getting some jab in at Mr. NeJame.
(begs the question of what we will never know– what rant did Cindy leave on MNJ’s answering machine and could it be that George was the best choice of the two clients to actually get into their ex-lawyer’s offices without police being called, as he attempted to sabbotage the Tim Miller press conference?)