Morgan Harrington Murder: FBI, Metallica and Virginia State Police Ask You To Help Them Find Her Killer
Morgan Harrington disappeared from the John Paul Jones arena on October 17, 2009. Morgan’s remains were located and recovered the morning of January 26, 2010 on the Anchorage Farm in Charlottesville, VA.
Reported exclusively on www.blinkoncrime.com, Morgan’s alleged attacker was tied via DNA to a sexual assault in Fairfax, VA in September 2005.
With the help of a multi media campaign, the FBI, Virginia State Police and Fairfax Police are asking for the publics help to catch her killer.
Revised Sketch of Harrington Suspect
Metallica offered this public service announcement:
Metallica Statement On Harrington Case
FBI Press Release:
Authorities Launch Multimedia Campaign in Morgan Harrington Murder Case
Murder Suspect Linked by DNA to Sexual Assault in Fairfax City, Virginia
| FBI Washington June 13, 2012 |
Today, federal, state, and local law enforcement launched a multimedia campaign that includes two enhanced composite sketches of a suspect in the 2009 murder of Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington. The unknown murder suspect is also connected by DNA to a 2005 sexual assault in Fairfax City, Virginia.
Authorities recently enhanced the composite sketch created in 2005 from a description by the sexual assault victim. One of the composites shows the suspect with facial hair, as the suspect was described at the time of the attack. The second composite sketch features him without facial hair.
The two attacks were connected through DNA after a forensic profile was submitted by the Virginia Department of Forensic Science to the FBI’s national DNA database. The search found that the suspect in the Harrington murder investigation matched the DNA profile of the attacker in Fairfax City.
The multimedia campaign includes a public service announcement by Metallica lead guitarist James Hetfield appealing to the public to come forward with information concerning the Morgan Harrington investigation. The composite sketches of the suspect are being featured on bus shelters in Washington, D.C., as well as on digital billboards in Richmond, Virginia; Roanoke, Virginia; Washington, D.C.; and in 23 other states along the East Coast. Social media outreach and alerts via Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, along with a website dedicated to the Harrington case were also launched Wednesday. Podcasts are now available on iTunes, and radio spots are airing to further raise awareness of the ongoing investigation. The multi-pronged effort is designed to develop new leads and renew the public’s attention in the attacks. The campaign implements techniques similar to those that have led to the arrests of the East Coast Rapist as well as Ten Most Wanted fugitive James “Whitey” Bulger.
The Jefferson Area Crime Stoppers is offering a $100,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for Morgan Harrington’s murder. In addition, the band Metallica is adding $50,000 to the reward, for a total of $150,000.
Morgan Harrington Murder
On the evening of Saturday, October 17, 2009, Harrington attended a Metallica concert at John Paul Jones Arena on the University of Virginia (UVA) campus in Charlottesville, Va. At approximately 8:30 p.m., she left the arena and was unable to re-enter the facility. She was last seen hitchhiking for a ride from passing traffic.
Harrington was dressed that night in a black T-shirt with the word “Pantera” spelled out in tan letters and was wearing a distinctive Swarovski crystal necklace made of large crystal chain links, which investigators have yet to recover. Harrington’s “Pantera” T-shirt was found on November 11, 2009, in front of a row of apartments along 15th Street, NW near Grady Avenue in Charlottesville. Harrington’s skeletal remains were later discovered on January 26, 2010, in a remote field on an Albemarle County, Virginia farm along Route 29. A camera that Harrington had in her possession that night has never been recovered.
Sexual Assault in Fairfax City, Virginia
On the evening of Saturday, September 24, 2005, a 26-year-old victim was walking home from the Giant Food Store located on the 3700 block of Jermantown Road in Fairfax City, Virginia. The suspect grabbed the victim from behind as she walked down Rock Garden Drive toward her residence. He then carried the victim to a grassy area behind a maintenance shed, where he sexually assaulted her. The suspect was last seen running from the area.
The suspect is described as an African-American male with black hair and facial hair at the time of the attack. He is approximately 6’0” tall and was believed to be between the ages of 25 and 35 years old at the time of the attack.
The public is asked to review this information and consider whether they know someone who generally fits this description, who lived or had ties to the area around the times of the assaults, or who may have been known to spend considerable amounts of time in those areas.
People who know the suspect may not believe that he is capable of committing these crimes. He may not necessarily have a violent criminal history. Because investigators are in possession of DNA evidence that can either positively link the suspect to his crimes or exclude innocent parties, citizens should not hesitate to provide information, even if it is just the name of a potential suspect.
The following agencies are cooperating in the investigation of these crimes: the Virginia State Police, City of Fairfax Police, University of Virginia Police, Charlottesville Police, Albemarle County Police, Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney, Virginia Tech Police Department, George Mason Police Department, and the FBI.
Law enforcement agencies are asking anyone with information to contact the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) or the Virginia State Police Tip line at 434-352-3467.
Press Contacts:
Virginia State Police
(804) 263-5547
City of Fairfax Police Department
(703) 273-2889
FBI Richmond Field Office
(804) 261-1044
FBI Washington Field Office
(202) 278-3519
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5:47 pm
Does the time of my post show another time to you guys? I’m trying to figure out if this is on my end or not.
correct, shows me 5:48PM
Leelee says:
August 25, 2012 at 4:48 am
I was just reading this article and it says the Granny I cident occurred in the arena parking deck? Was the reporter mistaken or is this the reason LE seems to have ignored Granny?http://www.readthehook.com/88650/hes-still-here-and-other-revelations-harrington-case
LeeLee, that info is from Off The Face of the Earth article it reads:
A few stories that have surfaced in the media have been debunked. Among them were a grandmother who believed she might have seen Morgan in the Arena’s parking deck arguing with a young man, as well as reports that items of Morgan’s clothing have been found.
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I dont know whether or not the Granny sighting has been debunked- but from the first article that reported her sighting which included video- it seemed as if this sighting DID NOT take place in the arena deckparking lot-
snipped:
She says the fight unfolded behind her car parked outside the John Paul Jones Arena the night Metallica took the stage. At about 9:30, the same time police say Morgan Harrington had still been on the arena grounds, the woman pulled into a parking space to pick up her son and grandson from the show. That’s when she says a loud noise startled her.
“I heard them being very loud and it sounded like maybe like she got smacked or something. The two people were in like a hand lock she had her hands on his arm and he had his hands on her arm pushing back and forth.”
The woman says the girl started walking back toward the arena and the young man headed for the road, but ran back to the girl. She says the girl looked just like Morgan and it appeared the couple knew each other. The woman only had a vague description of the young man she saw.
http://www.nbc29.com/Global/story.asp?S=11374052
—Now this may be just another assumption on my/our part due to the reporters wording but it seems as if they are outside not in a parking deck-
BTW in rereading The Hooks Walk thru article- it reads that The Lax player dropped what he found in the receptacle for lost and found in UHall parking lot–
snipped:
Investigator Cappuzzo says the witnesses in the three bridge sightings claim they didn’t see Harrington carrying a purse. That, he says, could be because the black purse had backpack-like straps, and if she’d been wearing it, it might not have been visible against her black Pantera t-shirt. It also could be because she’d already dropped it in the RV lot, where on the morning of Sunday, October 18, a member of the men’s lacrosse team discovered it near the fence and turned it in to a lost-and-found receptacle in U-Hall. Her back-less cell phone and an umbrella were among her items also recovered from that area.
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which would answer if LAX player handed it off to a person which begs the question when were the items in the box collected and how long did the purse and its contents sit inside…and did the contents of purse get put back into the purse or were they just dropped in on their own-?
according to this article he placed the purse in the L&F box- did he handle the phone in the same way? and it reads that the box was in the uhall parking lot- so are we sure it wasnt he who lost the back while walking thru that lot to turn into L&F?
Olivia- no problem – and please never feel like you dont have anything to contribute because you most certainly do- you always get us thinking- and if you go to walk the area- please be careful-
Alexandra I recall something like that too-
AJMO
AMBR
Hi Alexandra. You are remembering correctly. The CT10 ScanStation (by Leica-Geosystems) is usually used at a crime scene immediately. The scan is thousands of times more accurate than traditional methods, with thousands more points to compare. I can see it being useful in questioning a POI or in figuring the accuracy of a witness, or useful in court.
Here’s a link to info about the ScanStation C10 laser scanner that you are thinking of:
http://my.news.yahoo.com/va-state-police-3d-scanner-captures-crime-scenes-161153952.html
We can only put one link per post as I recall. There’s also a youtube video of Lt. Rader of VSP talking about it. The C10 scanner has been put to use in Morgan’s case at both the UVA/JPJ area and the AF recovery area.
diana h.
Dear Blink,
My heart goes out to you and your family. My prayers are with you on reading of the loss of your dear Mother.
You do her proud every single day.
Sincere condolences and thoughts of love and strength to you and your family. {{{Blink}}}
diana h.
@dianah
Thank you friend
No time to fully read the posts but thanks to Mom3.0 for correcting the link. I must have forgot to to click copy after highlighting the link which resulted in the posting of the last address I had copied. I will continue to blame my iPad for my typos and errors. No way it could possibly be my clumsy fingers!
August 27, 2012
Morgan, my sweet girl, I am not loving the mall just now; see, its “back to school” time at the mall. Remember “back to school”, back before you were dead?
It is a time of new beginnings, and hope, and a passel of jitters thrown in besides. Back to school shopping for the perfect binder; reams of papers, fistfuls of sharpies and pens. You loved to put your binder together and make a plan to attack the new academic year. Remember the flurry of heavy telephone conferences to discuss and debate with all your friends “What to wear the first day? Is it ok to pack your lunch or does that look nerdy? Maybe it is better to buy from the cafeteria? Did you get the “good” math teacher? Where in heck are all the different classrooms?”
Lockers – that was a big stressor when you entered middle school. Could you manage to work the combination lock? We even went covertly to the school building a couple of days before class started (very nerdy) with WD-40 to grease up the lock. We practiced and practiced your combination until the lock sprang open in your palm effortlessly.
Morgan, you were always both anxious and thrilled to start classes again in the fall. You loved all the possibilities and promise of a new beginning that back to school implied. Tragically, all over for us now, no promise, no hope, no beginning, just your end. That’s why I have to stay away from the mall for a bit.
2 4 1
Mama
mom3.0 — I think they found the phone later when searching the rough area where the lax player found the purse. I don’t think he found the phone and put it in lost and found.
If he had found the phone and lost the back, I am sure he would have told LE that — but I don’t think he did find it.
I am going to have to consult my notes redly, I do not think that is correct, will advise.
B
Mom3.0….Regarding the purse. It could not have been long in the “Lost and Found” box because Dan and Gil were called on Sunday morning to say that their daughter’s purse was found. Dan said that is the first they suspected that Morgan was missing and that something was terribly wrong. They had not yet been called by the friends to say they couldn’t find Morgan. (Parent’s worst nightmare…)
Gil’s thoughts, August 27, 2012:
Morgan, my sweet girl, I am not loving the mall just now; see, its “back to school” time at the mall. Remember “back to school”, back before you were dead?
It is a time of new beginnings, and hope, and a passel of jitters thrown in besides. Back to school shopping for the perfect binder; reams of papers, fistfuls of sharpies and pens. You loved to put your binder together and make a plan to attack the new academic year. Remember the flurry of heavy telephone conferences to discuss and debate with all your friends “What to wear the first day? Is it ok to pack your lunch or does that look nerdy? Maybe it is better to buy from the cafeteria? Did you get the “good” math teacher? Where in heck are all the different classrooms?”
Lockers – that was a big stressor when you entered middle school. Could you manage to work the combination lock? We even went covertly to the school building a couple of days before class started (very nerdy) with WD-40 to grease up the lock. We practiced and practiced your combination until the lock sprang open in your palm effortlessly.
Morgan, you were always both anxious and thrilled to start classes again in the fall. You loved all the possibilities and promise of a new beginning that back to school implied. Tragically, all over for us now, no promise, no hope, no beginning, just your end. That’s why I have to stay away from the mall for a bit.
2 4 1
Mama
Actually I have a correction….Dan said “she had wanted his help studying for a test Sunday and when he didn’t hear from her, he called her friends. After they admitted to not seeing Morgan since before 8:40 and had only talked with her on the phone afterward, Harrington notified the police.”
lol, I am going to have to check my notes on this as well, I do not think that is correct. I think the school called Dan upon the purse find and he called the friends, but will confirm.
B
yeah — my memory is that UVA police called dan first because of the purse and then he called the friends. I assume her driver’s license had the roanoke address on it.
I may be wrong on the phone blink. Going completely from memory — but I thought UVA police found it when they went back out to the area.
Correct, and I just double checked because I am foggy on occasion as well this is so much information, but 100% positive Morgan’s phone was found in her purse, no battery and no battery cover on it. Battery cover found few days later, battery never was.
B
ok, finally ,thanks b,100% ,her phone was in her purse.hmm.. have to rethink this . so it is possible she lost her purse in the lot(even if she realized it).if her purse was a designer name ,say prada microfiber ,backpack,and her wallet(even brighton) (with cards and id in it,not splayed on the ground),means to say no one robbed or pillaged her purse.if indeed there was an attempt to use her card,with the timeline, that would mean,the purse came back ,and if it came back ,major cause for deep internal investigation. unless uva allows thugs to haven from murders in their rv corral. if she lost her purse in the rv lot ,at that fence line , was a car parked there? it was well lit ,at the fence line wasnt it? shadows? hmm would love to know the activity in rv lot at 12am 1am 2am 3am ect.was the lot officially closed? does someone close it? should they have seen the purse?
From Blink:
I have read several of his colleagues and respected professionals offerings I enjoyed, but if your interest is more intellectual than basic I am not sure I can provide that.
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Blink,
I think that I may be classified as “basic”- LOL! I will take my chances and read one of the books and also see what I can find online. The practice of profiling is fascinating and I’d really like to learn more by delving into some of his cases that he has worked on. As much as I don’t want to give this perp any credit, I do think that there is complexity in who we’re dealing with, unless if he has just been lucky thus far. Thanks for your reply.
In that case, I re-viewed my syllabus and in part, study items:
http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Aspects-Rape-Investigation-Multidisciplinary/dp/1420065041/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228316307&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Autoerotic-Fatalities-Robert-R-Hazelwood/dp/0669047163/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3562506-6547903?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183047598&sr=1-1
Obviously, request them at the library.
I would also recommend Roger Depue- I read this last Fall I believe.
Between Good and Evil- kindle and audible editions.
I am never going to recommend reading materials without this:
blink- Malcolm Gladwell
The Gift of Fear- Gavin DeBecker- Buy the book if one is not necessary a fan or familiar with Mr. DeBecker, he is a fascinating teacher, but for the content, he is not the best choice to narrate.
B
Don’t have the link at my fingertips at this moment but I believe this information came from Duannah’s message board about Morgan’s case. It isn’t a traditional board where others post it is just all the information she has amassed over the years about this case. So it seems that the bag was found before 8:19 a.m. that morning. I assume that time comes from the police report of the bag being found. I keep trying to look it up but it refuses to open. Last night it only semi opened on my ipad so I couldn’t scroll down to the correct date so if anyone wants to look here at this link for October 2009 it would be greatly appreciated. http://www.virginia.edu/uvapolice/reports.html If a found item isn’t listed there then I don’t know where the time came from. Duannah’s site also notes the scattering of her items which is similiar to what Redly said but it didn’t seem to suggest the phone was found at a later time. I’m guessing the LAX player picked everything up and put it into the bag then turned it into U-Hall since that is the location where the players would be boarding the bus for their exhibition game in Marlyand. Looking at the various information online for UVA property I think the lost and found would be in the U-Hall facilities and operations office. Most of what is lost at other venues and not claimed during an event ends up at this office. According to the Duannah info the bag was registered at 8:19 but Dan wasn’t contacted until around 11. The Harrington family’s minister was also quoted as saying that the Harrington’s were called the morning of the 18th to say Morgan’s purse was found. Around an hour passed before he called her friends.
Susanm
The lighting at the lot is practically non-existant. There are lights along Copley Road. They appear to be the antique style with the big globe at the top that will handle two 200 watt incandescent bulbs. The luminance from these lights is poor.
There is a four unit standard that I think is pointed at the track rather than the lot. This is located near the East fence. The walkway around the North fence has the same type of lamps as are along Copley.
On a rainy misty evening, anyone a hundred or more feet from Copley would IMO be very hard to see unless vehicle lights picked them up. I rechecked this on Google Earth when you posted about the lights.
Olivia
I second Mom3.0′s request to be careful if you walk the area. If done at night, please don’t go alone. Take two of your friends if you can talk them into going. Make certain that you have a powerful flashlight. There are LED flashlights that are small and put out well over one hundred lumens. They are not expensive. In addition they can be used to temporarily blind someone if shined in their eyes.
J.me
The post from mama really go to me. The part about the locks. I taught band for eight years after retirement and it was always a struggle for the sixth grade youngsters to figure out the combination locks. Band people had a lock for their academic locker and another for their band instrument. With over 175 new sixth grade students we spent a lot of time teaching them to work the locks. I could just imagine Gil and Morgan working together to solve the problem.
Okay I got the site to work by clicking on the compatibility view on my browser. Here is the report.
PROPERTY FOUND – Cage Parking Lot 200901379/45
Reported purse found
RPT: 0819 10-18-09 OCC: 0800 10-18-09
CASE STATUS: Active
Blink,
You rock. Thanks for all of the links and recommendations. I am looking forward to reading about those cases and let them school me on profiling. I’ve read some more articles about Hazelwood; I like the approach that he has with respect to trying to reason like one of these guys in order to figure out who he is and why he does what he does. A true pioneer and seemingly down-to-earth person.
I read some of the cases regarding autoerotic fantasy and I thought about this case. Based on what has been alluded to regarding the condition of Morgan’s body, I have to think that this person is someone who would engage in at least something similar and other masochistic as well as sadistic practices. I mentioned at one time that he may also have erectile dysfunction (sorry for the graphic stuff, folks), but it is entirely tied into his upbringing of having witnessed unthinkable actions by a family member, likely inflicted on a member of the opposite sex, on a fairly regular basis. Getting worked up violently is one of the ways that he can overcome his issue. Changing gears: I also wonder if he was ever involved in an accident which may have caused his lapses in judgment. I know that Richard Ramirez experienced several significant blows to the head as a young child and that was said to be a source of hallucinations and the well-documented aberrant, sadistic nature of his crimes. You see, you let a guy read a couple of Roy Hazelwood interviews and he thinks he’s a profiler all of a sudden. I’ll stop there.
Back to our subject. I know that we’ve discussed the area around Anchorage Farm-and what I bring up that follows- on numerous occasions, but I was just doing a real estate search and just looked on the site map to see what was available in the North Garden area to humor myself and because of Morgan’s case, of course. There is a large estate for sale in the Blandemar Farms/ Estate subdivision that has a photo featuring hay collection on the estate. Seeing that reiterates that not only knowledge of and comfort in the area are key elements in selection of where Morgan was placed, but specifically Anchorage Farm and his (or an accomplice’s) knowledge of hay collection cycles there and in general. He had to be aware of when the last cut was and when the next likely cut would be there with decomposition likely at a very late stage by his estimations, presumably if the next cut would not have been until April or so. Also, a haybuster driving along even a paved secondary state road is not going to draw too much attention in those parts. I’ve seen farm equipment being operated on 29 and other main roads plenty of times moving from one farm to another in order to work a job. Could this have been the access vehicle during a time when no one would draw the ire of the Bass’ or when they were out of town? Rader asked cyclists if they recall seeing anything unusual at one of the early press conferences, late Jan. 2010. Maybe he should have asked if they recall seeing a tractor on the road or something ‘usual’.
Here is the sound of brakes screeching, and not because of any reason other than my need to separate the empirical from the immediate. I am a share-er that way. I encourage you and others to the enth to educate yourselves and I applaud it. One lesson I have learned the hard way- one’s primary focus is to NOT form
a hypothesis or suspect.
They need to find you. Apolly if that is a bad yoda impersonation but I stand behind it.
On the surface, there can be no profile of sketch, or this suspect. There are only two known linked offenses and in the profiling world, we cannot even get to sub-set with that info. That said, any investigator will take a DNA match over any other piece of evidence.
In reality, an investigator at this point has to work backwards and backfill potential suspects in the case- not ideal.
If done correctly, it is asking one to invent electricity while ignoring the light in your office, keys and kites.
As you will read- even the greats do just that on occasion. It works.
I love your self assessment, it is a good sign of your knowledge base confidence.
B
CentVA Native Away
You post about seeing farm equipment moving on hwy.29. Those are probably combines for harvesting grain. Most round and rectangular balers are tractor pulled. Unless they have a short distance to move, they would be moved by truck. Some of the ranches in our area with three to five thousand acres use very large tractors. These are too large to move by truck unless a special trailer is used. They are often driven on the roads.
Mr. Bass does have a local contractor to mow and bail the hay. They are round bales. I don’t know who that is or where they live. North Garden is a small community that is nearby. Someone from that area may have the contract.
I would think that by early october the hay growth would be mostly over. Wet cold air would slow it down. Most bales would have been made for the year. This is why I think that Morgan was placed in that particular field. The perp or perps knew that no one would likely check the field very soon so it would be weeks to months before the body was found. There would be little or no remains and bones would be scattered by small animals.
The large snowfall followed by the high winds that destroyed trees caused Mr. Bass to check the possible damage to his fences by downed trees. This was 100 days from the date of Morgan going missing. The snow and rain provided some protection to the body that the perps did not count on. Just how much was left intact is known only to the family, the ME, LE and the CST’s that worked the case.
. I was looking again at the UVA police reports and noticed a few things that you may be familiar with and I have just missed. There were quite a few reports at JPJ that night which ended in arrests. DIP stands for drunk in public.Have you heard much about these incidents? They peaked my curiosity because I wondered if they occurred inside our outside of the arena? And if police were patrolling the area and witnessed behavior suggesting the person was drunk or if they would have actually be reported by the arena. If inside the arena would the security detain the person then contact the police? Exactly what would be the relationship between hired security at the arena and UVA police?Obviously there were a lot more drunk in public folks there than were arrested but if we keep in mind how wobbly Morgan allegedly was I am surprised she avoided being reported. Especially if she was not only wobbly but angry according to the kickee.
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901371/32
Arrest made
RPT: 2023 10-17-09 OCC: 1950 10-17-09 to 2000 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901372/57
Arrest made
RPT: 2150 10-17-09 OCC: 2102 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901373/32
Arrest made
RPT: 2155 10-17-09 OCC: 2141 10-17-09 to 2200 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901374/57
Arrest made
RPT: 2310 10-17-09 OCC: 2246 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901375/57
Arrest made
RPT: 2315 10-17-09 OCC: 2256 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
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Con’t
Again I apologize if this has already been viewed and discussed. Hopefully I can clearly explain how odd this incident is without sounding like a conspiracy theorist. If I do perhaps I can at least get a nice vacation in a lovely padded cell!
SIMPLE ASSAULT – JPJ 200901376/33
Reported simple assault
RPT: 0018 10-18-09 OCC: 2143 10-18-09
CASE STATUS: Active
- That report went into the sytem 18 minutes after midnight. Please note the time of an event always should be earlier than the time it enters the system. The first oddity Is that this goes into the system at midnight but it allegedly occured at 9:43 PM on 17th. To be more succinct the record in the system is wrong. This would suggest that if you were to look up the log of the officer who responded it would say he was at the arena around 9:40 on the 18th not the 17th.
- also note that in the arrests I listed above there is a DIP that occurred between 9:41 and 10:20. It also has an anomaly because it went into the sytem at 9:55 PM. At first I thought the time was listed like that because of a delay in the arrest. Meaning there was an occurrence followed by the report going in, then an arrest at 10:20. But that is inconsistent with the other arrests which leads one to wonder the significance of 10:20 and why the report entered the system in the between the two provided times. Also there should be no delay in such an arrest because it isnt like the person must be hunted down so what was occurring between that time?
- In regards to the assault why was there over a two hour delay in the report entering the system?
- The report also stands out because all Incidents at the arena are listed as occurring at John Paul Jones arena instead of JPJ. Yes this could be a stretch but I looked through several pages of reports and it was the only one I could find which used JPJ. I could have missed other instances but if not this could be more difficult to find I the system as it may not come up if part of search criteria is John Paul Jones not JPJ. The name and date would make it doubly hard to look up if one was looking for incidents which occurred at John Paul Jones arena on October 17th.
-Another odd thing is the assault report just so happens to be listed as active. The charge would be for simple assault which is only a misdemeanor. There’s no reason for this to still be an active case giving the various labels for cases on the UVA police site.When there is no solvability nor witnesses and suspects then a case would be listed as suspended. If the suspect dies, the DA doesn’t want to prosecute or the victim chooses not to press charges then the case is classified as “cleared exceptionally.” Active is defined by the UVA police to mean a case that is currently being investigated. Why would a simple assault from 2009 still be an active case?
- while looking at the reports I also found the report for that stolen person. I now doubt it is linked to Morgan’s case because it occurred at The Park which is too far away to assume it could have anything to do with Morgan. Well let me rephrase that, I doubt the report had anything to do with the theory that it was Morgan’s attempt to get into her car since she didn’t have her keys. However it does strike me as odd that the time of the report entering the system is 9:30 PM.
I apologize for this being so long it but I wanted to clearly explain how unsettling this is. Perhaps it is all due to officers with poor technology’s skills who don’t proofread their reports. But it makes me wonder if the errors were deliberate. Just look at Sean Horn and be reminded that being a police officer doesn’t necessarily mean you are an upstanding citizen. If anyone wants to look up the reports on the UVA site and has issues let me know and I will tell you how I resolved my initial problem accessing the info. It can be a bit tricky.
Lee Lee, I find all of that very interesting. You may want to also send your comment in to the FBI. I would use the Washington Field office number. Law Enforcement, like anything else in government, needs a good system of checks and balances.
leelee — I suspect but dont know that RPT stands for when the report was made to the police, not necessarily when the paperwork is put in the system. It would make more sense that way. The policeman obviously should have put 10/17 instead of 10/18. Lots of them are listed as active. I wouldn’t get too unsettled by it if I were you.
It is when it is reported or as in LE speak, the incident.
B
Leelee
Your question about the ability to understand how to make computerized entries to an arrest system by LE is valid. One would think that Charlottsville would have an up-to-date system and officers would have good training. This may be only partially true. It IMO would depend on the age and interest of some officers.
I spent three years working with county sheriff’s offices to get them into the modern use of computers. This also included work with county clerks. This was fifteen years before Morgan’s crime.
The resistance to new things by LE and county offices did not just affect the older employees as I expeceted, but some of the very young ones resisted more than the older group. There would or should be ample time for computers to become just a tool for most in government as in business. However, just like in business, there will always be those who decide for themselves that something is required of them that they don’t like and they will delay doing the task.
This is a long wordy way to say someone may have just delayed the input and why.
While UVA is not on the twenty-five Newsweek or the Princeton party school list, it after all is not a small school in terms of population. College age students are all experimenting with life away from mom and dad. Some have little experience with alcohol or drugs and will give both a try.
Weekends are about having fun with fellow students and the police have their hands full. I would bet that a student that was not falling down drunk or being out of control would be given a pass by the police. Otherwise the drunk tanks at the local jail could not hold them all.
Your supposition is correct TGF. The police there, like in most big college towns, will generally give drunk college age kids a pass unless they are causing a real problem. In other words, being aggressive or falling down in the street. It has always been my supposition that Morgan, being a college kid and probably still hoping to have fun, was actively avoiding police types or other folks who looked like authority figures on her trek through the parking lot.
Good to see you posting again Redly!Perhaps I have misunderstood the point you and Blink made but my understanding is that the two of you were saying that RPT was the time an incident was reported by a witness or victim not the time it entered the system. If I misunderstood ignore the rest of this! If not then what do you believe the time beside OCC represents in these reports? Whatever it is it always occurs before the RPT. My initial thought while considering your suggestion was that it was the time when the crime occurred. But the specificty of the times would not make sense. For instance if I get attacked and the police ask me what time it occurred I won’t say 7:43. If I report someone for being drunk in public I won’t say I spotted them at 11:43. Then I thought the specific OCC time was perhaps the result of a 911 call. That also wouldn’t make sense because of the amount of time between many of the OCCs and RPTs.Perhaps the report below will illustrate my point. I cannot envision a situation where a person would be reported for driving with a suspended license between 11:39 and 11:55 and then an officer received the report at 12:30. However it would make sense for 11:39 to be the time a person was stopped by police and therefore at 12:30 the officer report went in.
DRIVING SUSPENDED – Ivy Road 200901396/32
Arrest made
RPT: 0030 10-23-09 OCC: 2339 10-22-09 to 2355 10-22-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest.
Also note this report
DIP – John Paul Jones Arena 200901372/57
Arrest made
RPT: 2150 10-17-09 OCC: 2102 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Cleared by arrest
It would seem unlikely for there to be a 48 minute delay in someone reporting a drunk person. For some reason my iPad suddenly won’t let me copy and past but there was a report of a suspicious call on an emergency phone. The OCC is 5:17 to 5:30. The RPT is 5:45. Yet again it would make more sense to me for 5:45 to be the time the officer put his report into the system.
In many of the accident reports OCC and RPT have the same time. And in most of the theft reports or lost items reports OCC seems to represent the time frame during which the theft or loss likely occurred. The system certainly isn’t consistent but in reports which require an officer to be on the scene it still appears to me that OCC is probably the time an officer arrives on the scene/stops a person/ see a guy stumbling around etc.
With all that being said, in the event that I am wrong about the times the assault incident and it’s entry still bother me because of the location, the time frame it provides and the incorrect date. It is additionally bothersome because you have two quick options to drive from JPJto the UVA police located on Ivy Rd. you can take Massie, turn onto 29 then turn onto Ivy. Or you can take the quicker option right down Copley, over the infamous bridge, the turn on Ivy, driving past Food of All Nations and you will be at your destination. The trip would take four minutes. But if you drove past the station for 131 feet you would turn onto US 250. Then after only .2 miles you merge on US 29 S towards
I-64/Lynchburg/Richmond.
ATGF all good points about resistance to new technology. In terms of business there were 7 reports that night and most were at JPJ for DIP
I think what we are seeing is completed reports that differ as to the needs for an arrest and transport, or a field inquiry. I believe but will try to verify, that officers can also close the incident from their patrol car or the station. To my knowledge, the system does not indicate if the call came through the blue phone, or however it commences.
This is why to this day I believe the 9:30 purse and contents stolen may have been Morgan.
B
I just reread the diana h. post at #3 and took the link about the CT10 scan machine built by Lieca.
After reading the link, I believe that I have the reason that LT. Rader retired from VSP. He was one of eight people trained in its use by the manufacturer. At a cost of 220 thousand and money for training, this isn’t an inexpensive machine. The State of Virgina purchased theirs with money confiscated from crimes.
Lt. Rader probably took a job as a trainer with LE background for the manufacturer of the CT10.
These machines are very expensive at the present time. However, as with all digital technology it will quickly be brought down in price. Quickly is relative in a sense.
I can rember looking at a solid state voice recognition machine at the ACM show in Dallas in 1977. This machine was in a cabinet the size of a small refrigerator and cost 100 thousand dollars. Seven years later all the functions of recognition could be purchased from Radio Shack on a single chip for 8 dollars. It only required the input and output devices to be added. Today a laptop computer with proper software can do the same functions.
Laser technology has literally taken over the measuring world. As a young engineer we surveyed with equipment that required a vernier scale to be interpeted and 200 ft. steel tapes that had to be calibrated to temperature. All of this subject to human error. Measuring is an acquired skill that must be learned over time. Laser technology has changed all of this and improved accuracy a thousand fold.
The important take away from the referenced article is that the courts in Va. have not approved this device for use in producing evidence. It certainly is potentially a potent tool for solving crimes.
Re Leelee above:
Could OCC represent occurrence? ie: the time an officer spent dealing with the call- ex- stop time starts 11:39 till 11:59? Don’t they log in their whereabouts? I don’t know- just offering a thought.
leelee — I am pretty confident OCC is when the incident reportedly occurred, not when it was first reported to LE. More confident than I was on the meaning of RPT. It would be unusual in my experience for a police report not to include the time of the actual event.
You probably have different styles of different officers in filling out their reports.
thanks for reminding us about the reports Leelee. i’m open to the purse and contents being morgan, but it is awful early in the day, not even evening yet, technically. some other potentially interesting items from the reports…
FOUND PROPERTY – 1800 JPA 200901402/56
Reported ID, Visa and other cards found in parking lot
RPT: 1030 10-23-09 OCC: 0745 10-23-09 to 0835 10-23-09
CASE STATUS: Active
_______________________________________________
found ID. if it was returned to its owner, it was an ID after all, would not need to remain active, no?
_______________________________________________
ASSIST AGENCY – 1215 Lee Street 200901445/64
Assisted Charlottesville Police Department with evidence collection
RPT: 2050 10-29-09 OCC: 1930 10-29-09 to 1955 10-29-09
CASE STATUS: Transferred
________________________________________________
LOST PROPERTY – Newcomb Hall Bookstore 200901575/44
Reported camera found
RPT: 2014 11-24-09 OCC: 1000 11-23-09 to 1040 11-23-09
CASE STATUS: Active
_________________________________________________
FOUND PROPERTY – Hancock Drive 200901623/47
Reported item found near area
RPT: 2221 12-01-09 OCC: 2152 12-01-09
CASE STATUS: Active
TGF — Rader is now the Director-Risk Services for Fisher Auto Parts fairly close to C’Ville. He started there upon retirement after 26 years and 1 month with VSP.
Hello Bp3-
Im sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you-\
Thanks for sharing your thoughts-
First I understand your hesitance in believing LE responds to Blinks write ups – but they do and they have-
Now I am not saying that it is only Blinks info they are responding to, as it is quite hard to figure out exactly which article or FB post etc first stated the info-
But in the case of the connection to a previous rape I know this was the case-
I am not talking shit to Blink or about Blink- when I call attention to this or her mistakes -
Blink herself has said its not always about being right- or about getting a scoop and she herself has admitted when she may get something wrong-
Heres the thing- she has said time and time again there is a rhyme to her reasoning- she goes in and shakes the tree- she writes things to promote discussion and to keep the conversation going- inorder to keep the spotlight on the victim and the case-
have i always agreed with everything she has written- NO- -
but sometimes her actions have merit-
For instance in the Christine Sheddy case a long cold missing persons case of a young mother who supposedly walked off to leave her young children, never to be heard from again…Blink helped the victims mom – to get to the truth- the bullies who took this young womans life and those who helped to cover it up-
Blink and her posters (not me before my time) – put a spot light on their words and deeds-
and the investigation into Christine disappearance-
No one cared the media had long ago went silent-
Those in the know were calling this young mother hateful things and saying how she abandoned her children- knowing the whole time that she was dead murdered and they all were aware-
Blink was instrumental in drawing these people out of their hidey holes and she even offered to pay for one persons lawyer if they would just come clean and tell what they knew
Now was all of her speculation accurate- no probably not-
Was everything she wrote 100% correct? No probably not
Was her grammar and writing skills (which I think help to make her real) any more or less mediocre or horrendous ? No definitely not
But without her and her steadfast support and her investigation Christine Sheddys Mom and children might still not know what happened and Christine may never have been found and brought back home for a proper burial-
So to those who constantly wonder about Blinks accuracy or her skills or her methods
I say there is a rhyme to her reason- and like me you dont have to agree with all of it- or any of it- but it has worked to help a victim and her family in the past
and in this case, ask yourself if we would still be in the dark about the potential for a brutal rapist connection and if we were -what that could that mean for The next girl and would we have the Sketch without Blinks “mistakes”
Cont Part 2
AJMO
AMBR
Okay, so let’s say the 9:30 report of purse stolen was Morgan’s purse. Who reported it? (Just trying to play out a logical scenario here based on facts and if I have missed the point in these discussions please forgive me, my head is swimming. Maybe I am just now seeing the significance of the purse report and the other reports and Blink can just say “duh J.me!”)
If it was Morgan who reported it stolen, what phone did she call from, since her phone was found in her purse? If it was someone else’s phone, then it makes sense that the question has been asked “If Morgan borrowed someone’s phone that night, would they please come forward?”
There should be a name that goes with the police report, and if it was Morgan, then that call could be considered part of the timeline, that she was with (unknown?)owner of that phone at 9:30 pm.
No phone and no purse leaves one at the mercy of those around her. If not thinking rationally, would she decide to go on to party the rest of the evening without her belongings? Maybe, but then would she call her friends again from somewhere that night? Perhaps the person loaning her the phone, or someone nearby invited her to party with them….”Morgan, Let’s go across Emmett to Econo Lodge and we can party there until the concert is over and then you can meet back up with your friends.”… Or was Morgan so angry with her friends that night that she just said, “forget it, got my new friend/s now, I’m not even calling them”.
Boiling all this down, UVA police should know whose purse it was, they should, at the very least, have the phone number on record and have tried to check into whose phone it was. An unsuspecting person would assume that whoever loaned her the phone, knowing she was going call police, wouldn’t also be likely to go on to murder her(the average assumption being that police always know what phone number a call is coming from and that it can be traced to an owner)and so why wouldn’t they come forward,adding to the timeline and possibilities? Well, perhaps that phone was a “Go Phone” and was untraceable.
So…. did the same person loan her phone,and give her a ride to her doom, with no record of their identity through the phone? If so, and the perpetrator was with Morgan as early as 9:30, it would make no sense that many other sightings would have been Morgan that evening. This would be the only scenario that makes sense if whoever loaned the phone and whoever might have given her a ride haven’t come forward after all the pleadings. Perhaps this is why police have discounted many sightings after 9:30. They must know she was loaned a phone and got in a car. An innocent person would have admitted to either one of these.
The scenario would go like this: this poor girl a)got in an argument with friends, b)locked out of a concert in the rain, c)robbed of her purse and phone, d)picked up by a rapist …and e)murdered …all in one night. One would have to deduce that the stars were aligned against Morgan Harrington on October 17, 2009. So sad.
Cont part 2
Bp3–
-Thanks for sharing your perspectives on the tix stubs- i agree and I do believe Morgan had kept her ticket stubs in the past for IIRC- some of her decorations in her room included past stubs-
I hope you get that collage someday- and congrats on your project and Bar in the basement-\
I also share your thoughts on Metallica- I appreciate everything they have done for Morgan but IMO they were much better in the beginning- but hey who isnt you know? May Cliff Burton RIP
anyway to answer your question- No I dont think you are a prick- thanks for apologising though and I totally understand your frustration and the need to get some facts straight- etc-
Since I have been posting here on Blinks I must say there is only one other case that brought out the “mean” in people like this case- and that is the WM3 case-
Anyone who has followed Morgans case or Stevie Mike and Chriss case for any length of time and shares their thoughts- better get used to some ignorant person disagreeing to the point of talking shit-\
but no- I never thought you were Bp3 not ignorant nor talking shit that is-
Bp3 I do not know why Morgan left the arena- but I am hoping that the suit goes forward and some of these questions will be answered – as I do believe the potential is there for Morgan to have been ejected from the arena- which could answer the who of who would have ripped up her stub-
You are welcome for the link Bp3- and to answer your last question- I again do not know why LE would say they KNOW she was offered a ride-
Thanks again for sharing Bp3
AJMO
AMBR
Peace
J.me says:
August 27, 2012 at 9:33 am
Mom3.0….Regarding the purse. It could not have been long in the “Lost and Found” box because Dan and Gil were called on Sunday morning to say that their daughter’s purse was found. Dan said that is the first they suspected that Morgan was missing and that something was terribly wrong.
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Jme-
What time was the LAX practice or game? If a game was it out of town? IIRC there was something about a bus… anyway was it %am ^am ?
Yes you are correct on your correct-
Dan did not start calling the friends until Morgan hadnt showed up for the math/checkbook help although it is my understanding that he may have been alerted to the “found” purse earlier than his calls to friends.
It was he who called UVA and reported Morgan as missing-
He did this after speaking with the friends.
Thanks for helping to try to keep this all straight Jme- if I am mistaken please feel free to correct the info.
AJMO
AMBR
My above comment is based on Blink’s comment”This is why to this day I believe the 9:30 purse and contents stolen may have been Morgan.”
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redly says:
August 27, 2012 at 11:54 am
I may be wrong on the phone blink. Going completely from memory — but I thought UVA police found it when they went back out to the area.
Correct, and I just double checked because I am foggy on occasion as well this is so much information, but 100% positive Morgan’s phone was found in her purse, no battery and no battery cover on it. Battery cover found few days later, battery never was.
B
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Hey there redly nice to have you back-
Thanks for weighing in- you too Blink
Blink arfe you truly 100% certain I mean you alweays said unless we were there we cant be 100% certain-
The reason I ask is because there are so many different reports on the purse find and the phone find- and – could it just be theat the LAX player put the phone in the purse after he found it and he didnt find it in the purse?
Im not trying to confuse you but Geller stated:
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/police_missing_woman_may_have_hitchhiked/48856/
Home > News> Local
Police: Missing woman may have hitchhiked
By Ted Strong
Published: November 14, 2009
State police also suggested Friday that the public try to remember if a woman matching Harrington’s description approached them asking to borrow a cell phone, but Geller said the request isn’t based on any specific evidence.
Harrington’s cell phone was found with her purse in a parking lot the morning after she vanished, so police are wondering if she tried to call anyone after she presumably lost the phone, Geller said.
—and dont forget we have “She has no coat, the weather is beginning to deteriorate. She doesn’t have her phone,” Cappuzzo said.
and also this statement/info
Investigator Cappuzzo says the witnesses in the three bridge sightings claim they didn’t see Harrington carrying a purse. That, he says, could be because the black purse had backpack-like straps, and if she’d been wearing it, it might not have been visible against her black Pantera t-shirt. It also could be because she’d already dropped it in the RV lot, where on the morning of Sunday, October 18, a member of the men’s lacrosse team discovered it near the fence and turned it in to a lost-and-found receptacle in U-Hall. Her back-less cell phone and an umbrella were among her items also recovered from that area
—So how could LE be even entertaining the notion that Morgan may have had her purse- with cell inside on the bridge and state she let it where it was found before HH- and how could the assume she “lost” her phone and say it was one of the reasons for HH- if it was found in the purse?
—here
This one states that gellar says the purse and contents seemed like they “spilled out” – If they are “spilled ouit- How can Lax player find them “inside”
(Dropping purse reports)
That last detail may help explain why various of Morgan’s belongings were found in a separate location near the place where the purse was discovered in the RV lot. “It was like they’d spilled out,” says Geller, maintaining that the intact purse showed no evidence of struggle.
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/12/18/holiday-heartache-harringtons-face-christmas-without-morgan/
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http://www.examiner.com/article/help-find-morgan-harrington-missing-young-virginia-woman
Dans summary? posted dec 22 09
says Dan was Driver- sarah drove home…
says Morgan texted outside-
Morgantexted inside around 7:30
Says Morgan’s purse had all of her belongings including: a wallet, debit card, ID, and a cell phone with the battery missing.
but we know contents had “spilled out”
says Purse was reported as lost property- but thought it was put in lost and found “receptcle” says- Dan called friends when Morgan didnt show up for math/check book help-
Dan begins calling friends-
Then he reports her missing to UVA…no mention of reveiving a call about Morgans purse find.
other quotes snipped–
snipped http://breezejmu.org/2009/10/22/search-for-tech-student-continues/
Oct 22
Rader said there was no sign of a struggle where her purse and battery-less cell phone were found.
“We have a purse. We have a cellphone. We have a missing girl. Those are the facts,” Rader said. “We do not know whether she is alive or has met some kind of ill fate. It’s just that simple.”
He says a passer-by found her purse and cell phone between the arena and an athletic field at the University of Virginia.
Rader says police are concluding their ground search Wednesday. They halted an air search earlier.
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http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/14487
Police conclude Harrington ground search
Thursday, October 22, 2009; 12:15 AM
Harrington’s purse and cell phone were found by a passerby in a small parking lot near the arena and were turned into the UVa police Sunday morning. Rader declined to comment on calls made by Harrington or what had been uncovered through her cell phone records. Rader added that there appeared to be no signs of struggle in the area where her personal items were found.
Radar says investigators have no idea whether Harrington is alive or, in his words, “has met some kind of ill fate.” He has also confirmed that the woman’s purse and cell phone were found and the phone battery was missing.
He says that missing battery may or may not be important to the case at some point in the future.
http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=109621
The next day, a passerby found Harrington’s purse and cell phone, without its battery, in a parking lot, and her parents reported her missing.
“We have a purse, and we have a cell phone, and we have a missing girl,” he said.
Rader said it wasn’t unusual that her phone would be without a battery but didn’t elaborate.
Her cell phone and purse were found in a parking lot near the venue and were turned over to police Sunday morning. They examined the area where the items were found but saw no signs of a struggle.
OK. The purse was found in Lanigan Field. This is a grassy sort of overflow parking area known where RVs park. That`s where the purse was found, Nancy, with of course, that cell phone.
again
CS has the purse being found near the fence in the RV lot and her backless cell phone and umbrella being found in “that area”
and wusa- says
Her cell phone was found in the street and her pocketbook in a parking lot. She was last seen hitchhiking on the Copley Road bridge.
“Morgan didnt have her phone”
http://www.livesecure.org/where-in-the-world-is-missing-va-tech-student-morgan-harrington/
A missing person investigation was initiated by authorities and soon Morgan’s purse and her ever present cell phone would be located in a parking lot separate from the one Morgan and her friends parked in. Her phone had the battery removed, something state police would say could have been an accident, but with so many high profile missing person’s cases in the news, there are few who wouldn’t know that when the battery is removed from a cell phone, law enforcement’s ability to trace the phone by the “pings” hitting off nearby cellular towers is defeated. But if she was kidnapped, did her abductors miss her purse as they struggled to force her into a car or van, or were these items left to point law enforcement in a different direction; perhaps a red herring? We just don’t know.
and you responded to a past post of SUZ-
Posted on Blinksite:
From SUZ:
Hey, at least this answers my question as to whether the cell phone battery cover was recovered (it was). I somehow missed this in the article from last Sunday.
Her black purse, which could also be worn as a backpack, and battery-less cell phone were spotted by a passerby the morning of Sunday, October 18. Geller says the battery cover was also recovered and that Morgan’s family says the “condition of the phone” meant the battery could come out easily if the phone was dropped. Geller says there was no sign of a struggle.
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/11/15/concerned-witnesses-before-hitching-morgan-harrington-caused-worry/
Still odd that the battery was never found.
My response: This is what drives me batty. So, was the battery cover ON THE PHONE? Or was it recovered seperately in the purse, nearby or other? That is HUGE??
B
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Are we sure now that it was in the purse Blink?
I am confused… Still.
AJMO
AMBR
I’m on a roll…..sowhile we’re on it I have to mention this report too, which we may have already discussed:
ASSIST CITIZEN – West Lawn 200901377/42
Reported citizen in need of medical assistance
RPT: 0211 10-18-09 OCC: 0152 10-18-09 to 0155 10-18-09
CASE STATUS: Suspended
Do we know what this was about? This would have been just before the Norma Parsons sighting at this very location.
Don’t worry–I wouldn’t walk there at night if you paid me a million dollars!
I just hope that everything has been checked and re checked. There certainly was ALOT of LE activity at JPJ on October 17, 2009. They made arrests. They had to be outside the arena. ?
ATG, did they use this CT10 scan machine built by Lieca in the parking lot to help determine the timeline that keeps coming up wrong?
I remember Lt. Rader saying that he had this technology available to him but I never heard anything after that for Morgan’s case.
That is my question.
@mom3.0
Yes, I can say that the phone was in the purse.
Eloise your suggesting is exactly how I interpreted many of the reports in term of OCC for many of the reports such as the DIPs and the assault on the 17th. Basically what I have been trying to say is that for incidents like the assault the OCC is likely the time the officer arrived on the scene/ became involved. not the time the person was assaulted.
J.me if the purse was Morgan’s then that report is yet another one with a weird error. It was stolen around 5:30 from The Park . We know Morgan had her ourse after that time. Morgan would not have made it there on foot. For it to be Morgan the OCC would have to be incorrect. That area is .9 miles away from Lannigan. There are multiple sport fields and several large parking lots. I also saw that report about the person needing medical assistance and thought of The Norma Parsons sitting.
Mom 3.0 you asked J.Me about the LAX team. Hopefully you won’t mind if I answer as I have the info in front of me. The team was leaving from the U-hall parking lot that day because they had two games to play in Maryland (at Navy) for Fall Ball 2009 Their first match would be at noon and the second at 3. http://laxx.tv/link/2903/
While reading all the above something peaked my interest. Has any seen or heard LE state the bag was turned into a lost and found receptacle? The only mention I have seen is in The Hook article. Has anyone in LE stated that? I wonder if the receptacle info is true. For instance many have given the wrong info about the reason the player was in the lot that morning. Buses were leaving from U-Hall that morning and there is a lost and found in the facilities but it doesn’t set out in the open. The website for Scott Stadium states that during the game the lost and found is in the building. But afterwards one needs to deal with the facilities and operations office in the U- Hall building. If it was turned in there then an employee must have been there early on a Saturday morning in that office in order to report it to the police so early in the day. There isn’t much time between the finding of the bag and the report. I wonder who made the report since the time frame would rule out the LAX player. The Harrington’s were called about the bag between 11 and 11:30. There would also have been a delay in interviewing the LAX player due to being in Maryland and being unaware of what was happening back at UVA. According to Duannah’s site the items were strewn around and the cell phone was on the bank of the Lannigan field lot near Copeley. Has anyone else seen that info anywhere. I’m usually able to track down her source but I’m having no luck this time.
Leelee — I believe blink’s tentative theory is that the stolen purse call was morgan trying to get a responding cop to come help her break into her car, not that it was actually stolen at 5:30. I personally think it is very unlikely to be in any way related to morgan (who I believe was probably seeking to avoid the notice of the many cops located in the area at the time and because of the location of the Park which isn’t really close to where we believe she parked), but don’t have the info necessary to rule it out (i.e., info about who reported the theft).
For any who don’t know, the reason the lacrosse player was in the lot the next morning was to get on the team bus to go to Maryland (I believe Annapolis) for an exhibition lacrosse game. Presumably he parked in the RV lot as that is where they generally have the athletes park before bus trips. I don’t think any of us know if he turned it into lost and found or if he handed it to a coach/trainer etc to turn in before he boarded the bus.
LeeLee…the Purse stolen report was at 9:30 pm:
LARCENY FROM VEHICLE – The Park 200901369/22
Reported purse and contents stolen from vehicle
RPT: 2130 10-17-09 OCC: 1738 10-17-09 to 1755 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Suspended
P.S. If this report was regarding Morgan’s purse, could it be that the status was suspended/put on hold due to wrong lot given or misunderstood location? The “Park Lots” are on the other side of the arena from the RV Lots.
Alexandra
I have no knowledge of the use of the CT10 machine for anything relating to Morgan’s case. I believe it was made available for use sometime in early september of 2010.
I have little knowledge of all the aspects of this equipment and how it really works. Anything I have is based on the report referenced. Maybe I should try to find its general design and operation on the manufacturers site on the web. I do know that it uses digital photography and somehow gets enough data to use laser based distance measurements.
J.me
Your report of the citizen needing assistance call that was suspended is suspicious to me. Why was it suspended. We can only hope that LE checked every logged call to every source in the area to make certain that all were properly investigated. The very short time span is what raises my suspicions. The only reason that it may have been suspended is that medical personnel were on site. If any other reason was given, it should be fully investigated.
I remember Norma Parsons making a remark that the woman appeared to be pretty beat-up. While we cannot know from that general description the exact condition of the young woman, it does raise the issue of who she was and why was she in that condition. Did LE actually make an effort to determine who Norma saw? IDK.
Olivia
I am glad to see your reply to our concern. You didn’t give a reason for your assesment. Over two years ago, I made the statement that this whole campus needs to be examined for removing heavy brush and tree growth and make some very needed improvements in lighting.
I don’t have a plat that shows the RR right-of-way and the property line of UVA. For security purposes, I would fence the propery line all along the railroad with a flat faced concrete fence 8 ft. high.
TGF — I apologize if I seem like a know it all or that I am picking on your posts, but you often raise interesting questions that I like to try to answer. In every “_______ needing medical assistance” case (generally the blank is either student or citizen), the case is listed on the police report as suspended. At least this is the case on the first few dozen I checked before giving up. There are numerous such listing in October 09 alone. This is because there is generally no crime they are investigating — they are just responding to a medical issue. Thus, not suspicious at all IMO.
ok guys
I went on the manufacturers site to learn more about the c10 machine.
This concept began life as a survery instrument based on laser technology. The geosystems division of Leica is the manufacturer. Some of you may have watched crime 360 on TV. That show uses an earlier version of the C10.
About 20 years ago engineering and construction firms began to use photographs rather than just drawings to record the actual construction of large buildings,manufacturing facilities, and other structures. These were first a paste-in photos.
Geosystems has married the laser measurement system with a digital camera that can see a distance of up to 900 ft. The instrument sits on a tripod just as does a laser base survey instrument. The camera is a 3d camera that can take a panaramic arc of a scene up to 900 ft in distance. The laser system measures every point the camera records to an accuracy of .4 mm..
This is an electronic instrument that must have a power supply. It is external to the instrument. An ethernet port of probably 100 baseT capacity is available for output to a laptop computer. All the data is stored on a fast disk in the laptop. Special software is available to create and display a 3D scene. The same software can manipulate a position of view or can in the case of forensics for LE produce exact measurements in the scene base on the limitations of the laser measurement accuracy. Four tenths of a mm at 900 ft. is very accurate.
This is pretty broad and there is a lot more,but for a quick idea of the equipment it should help.