Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation Exclusive: DeDe Spicher Interview Yields Allegations Of Illegal Steroid Use Terri Horman Took To Police

A Blink On Crime Exclusive: DeDe Spicher speaks for the first time about her ordeal in the Kyron Horman investigation- continued  ©

S. Christina Stoy, Editor In Chief- Blink On Crime

DeDe Spicher and Terri Moulton Horman


In the first part of’s exclusive interview with DeDe Spicher,  she revealed that after over 3 years of attempting to provide Multnomah County Sheriffs Office as well as Assistant Deputy Attorney Norm Frink with the necessary information they requested to clear her from any suspicion in the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Skyline second grader Kyron Horman; she has finally been cleared after passing a polygraph as part of her requirement under an immunity deal that has been sealed with the court.  Unofficially cleared, that is.

Spicher and her attorney Chad Stavley,  who have since refused all local media requests,  would very much like the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and current District Attorney Rod Underhill to clear her officially and publicly.

Spicher is adamant that law enforcement never had any reason to question her statements to them from the beginning, has cooperated fully for over three years and recently testified before the grand jury to prove she had nothing to hide.  While she would like the public to know that any assertions to the contrary are untrue, and sometimes have been offered maliciously,  her desire to speak out about her experience over the last three years is primarily to force investigative resources to review it’s progress- and hopefully adjust in a way to further leads in Kyron’s case.

As was proven not only by her recent polygraph,  but also by the verification that no evidence ever existed to support investigator’s theory in the first place,  Spicher had no information about anyone’s potential involvement in Kyron’s disappearance, let alone her own.

The continuation of our interview, which provoked some very interesting revelations long felt to be a possibility by many, was confirmed by Ms. Spicher  as she says- told to her by Terri Moulton Horman are prompting new possible theories in the circumstances surrounding the disappearance of Kyron Horman.  Two days after Kyron Horman’s eleventh birthday.

Stoy: So, in your estimation then,  why do you think that detectives Herron and Kravfe were so sure that you were involved or knew who was.

Spicher:  I have thought about this a lot, and I think there were a few reasons.  I think because I was advised through a meeting Terri had with a family friend and attorney that she should assume that all of her communication was being monitored by law enforcement and anyone she had contact with.  He told her to assume the house was bugged as well as vehicles, etc.  I also believe you did an article a while back that pointed out her phone was in Kaine’s name.   As this was a day or two after she was served with the restraining order,  she was also told that

Stoy (interrupting): You bought a prepaid phone after June 28th and never had one before that?  I had read that you or someone else purchased them the day of or the day after Kyron’s disappearance.

Spicher: No.  I purchased one prepaid phone, after Terri shared the info from her meeting, in my own name, either June 29th or 30th.    I think they were hung up on the fact that I came to her aid with no contact for so long so they just were convinced there had to be.

Stoy: ok, sorry, continue.  So you are not saying that LE was suggesting that you were hiding some other number you had and that was how they were alleging that you HAD to have been in contact with Terri or some other person prior to and on June 4th and that escalated your “poi” status in your opinion?

Spicher:  They did not say that to me specifically, but what they repeated over and over again, was that Terri and I had to have had some form of communication we were hiding.  It never made any sense to me because I knew I only had my cell that I had forever until the end of June,  and I knew I had not been in contact with Terri since her 40th birthday party in March.  So I would ask- well then I guess that means that you don’t have any contacts you can’t verify from either of us so why am I even in this “interview”?

To my recollection they never shared with me or answered any of my questions in response when something they kept hounding me about seemed absurd and conflicting with their theory.

Stoy: Which was?

Spicher: At first,  I think that they really believed I was involved,  and at some point I think they were talking more “accessory after the fact” because I got the impression ( although they did not share it with me) that Terri’s cell phone activity that day was nowhere near where I was,  and my vehicle never left, nor did I.  They would not verify that they located the ceramics/glassware artist [pottery artisan] I told you about and still have not.

Stoy: So in your opinion, you were clearly the linchpin of this case,  they [LE] believed you held the key to solving it and/or implicating Terri exclusively at that point, they no longer entertained your involvement per se?

Spicher: I honestly don’t think I could say that I ever believed that they stopped treating me as some sort of suspect.  I never felt that way,  but yes, absolutely they 100% believe that Terri is responsible and I definitely believed we all had to be interviewed and scrutinized or whatever,  but I really thought up until the meeting with Norm Frink that they [LE] would abandon that theory quickly because if they were positive I was the key, and I knew I was not, that would also eliminate Terri, who I did not and do not believe, but have no proof, was involved or knew anything.

Stoy: Right, so if you had nothing, and they felt you were the only nexus, it had to mean that they had no independent evidence of anything or anyone else so they would start in another direction?

Spicher: Right, but every interaction I had with them following and including the request to participate in the sting against her, made me believe they never did.  To get back to the why question you asked me- my final thought on that is that they kept pointing out that I was the person to tell everyone not to speak to them without attorneys in the beginning.    I would ask like who do you mean,  because that would have been my opinion across the board for any situation, but it was definitely based on what was getting out about how they were going about this.  I was scared and it turned out it was good reason.   I also would point out to them that I did not think that was or should be the basis for suspicion because if it was, it seemed to me that I was told that several staff members at Skyline had hired counsel, and Kaine was the FIRST to have one between he and Terri and I had told her at least a week or so before that she should.

Stoy: Why do you think she did not immediately take your friendly advice?  Your Dad was LE, and I presume she knew that.  People can say what they want, but I know many members of law enforcement in different jurisdictions and agencies.  I have worked with them or contributed analysis to cases with them privately [I cannot and would not ever include that in anything I choose to write on] and I can tell you that I do not know one of them that if they were the focus of a criminal probe or internal investigation they absolutely do not agree to an interview without a representative.  In fact,  Herron is or was the President of Mulnomah County Police Union or was, if I recall correctly.  So to that end, I find that a pretty hypocritical reason for suspicion of anyone.

Spicher: (laughs) Interesting.  I am not sure that I knew that. The reason Terri didn’t get an atty before the RO was because she was told by LE that if she did, she wouldn’t be privvy to any of their investigative discoveries, she would be out of the loop in finding Kyron.

Stoy: Have you had a desire or opportunity to review any sort of past events regarding the MCSO, I guess I should add, that involve anyone in this case or investigation you have had contact with?

Spicher: No,  do you mean like any other detectives or that sort of thing?

Stoy: Have you ever met with or been interviewed with any other agencies or detectives?

Spicher:  I believe I either met or just said hello to the guy you mentioned in that recent article of yours while he was at the house.  Both Kaine and Terri were there at the time as well.

Stoy: Bobby O’Donnell?

Spicher: That’s it,  yes, him.  Why did you ask me if I am aware of any sort of events- should I be?

Stoy: Well, I think that tangentially if I were you I would be considering just about everything as it related to what you have been through,  and I am aware of some what I will refer to as “stuff” but what I don’t want to do prior to the completion of our interview process is temper any of your responses with anything I know peripherally if that’s ok with you.  If you wish, once I publish the continuation which will have that sort of information,  I would invite you to comment on it for the record if you choose- are you ok with that?

Spicher: yes, that’s fine and probably a good idea.

Stoy: back briefly to the “sting request against Terri- On that issue- the request they extended to you outside the presence of your attorney and that they asked you not to tell Chad, as you think back ,  considering you have had no communication with Horman for over three years did you believe they thought it would work?  What did your attorney say when you told him?

Spicher: I can’t and won’t address any conversations I have had with my attorney,  but to answer your question as to my opinion,  I really don’t know for sure, I knew that I did not, and thought it was really, really odd- that was my first reaction.  After more thought,  and other conversations,  I don’t see how they thought it would work, or why they were still seemingly convinced after I had just passed the poly, etc, Terri was still their suspect and responsible.   What is your opinion on it?

Stoy:  I think I may reserve my thoughts on that for my piece.  Again, not wanting to temper your opinions  as we move along here and I think that could happen if I did.  Is that ok with you?

Spicher: Sure, thank you.

Stoy: I would like to move on to another subject for discussion.  I would just like to confirm for the record that I have never prior to this interview, asked you any questions about your potential knowledge of steroid use by yourself, or by Terri or Kaine Horman.  Is that correct?

Spicher: Correct, ok.

Stoy: Did they ask you this?

Spicher: Who is they?  You got a lot of pronouns flying around (laughs).

Stoy: Fair point, you’re right.  The good news is, as English, or should I say proper English is my second language (laughs) I use an copy editor.  Allow me to rephrase please.  Did anyone in law enforcement at any time ask you about steroids or other illegal injectable supplements sometimes used in weight training or body building in your interviews in this case?

Spicher:  Your question was did they [le] ask me anything about steroids or anything injectable ever?

Stoy: (laughs) now who’s throwing around the pronouns?

Spicher: (laughs) touche’ .  I was asked about it very vaguely in the beginning, I told them I had never used them, that I did not believe Terri ever did because she and I had similar views against using them and while we were on different supplement regimens when I was training for a marathon in 2008 I still remembered her to be knowledgeable about legal and effective nutritional supplements. I had no reason to believe she had ever used any kind of steroids.  I can’t say conclusively she never did but it would shock me.

Stoy: Why shock you?

Spicher: Because a few years back I recall Terri telling me that Kaine was what she referred to as “juicing”  and that his behavior had become very aggressive and well,  impatient or overeactive with the kids and she had discussed it with him and he ignored her.

Stoy: So for the record, when you say juicing you are referring to illegal steroids, not my Omega specials I make, correct?  That was the only question they ever asked you and did not ask any follow up questions like how long ago, etc, etc.  And so would you characterize the way law enforcement asked that question and their reaction to your response as disinterested, or having nothing to do with the case?

Spicher: I was never asked about Kaine’s use of steroids by either detectives or the grand jury.  But yes, that is what she told me.  I actually had forgotten all about it until she refreshed my recollection when I stayed there with her.  To the best of my memory I was asked just what I said, I answered as I just said and was never asked any follow up question nor was it mentioned again to me by law enforcement .  I don’t think I ever really understood what they did or did not think in terms of my information was important to the case,  but yes,  they were disinterested from my perspective as to it was the only time I was ever asked about it over the course of three and a half years and so my assumption is they still are.  But that is my assumption.

Stoy:  Understood, you are referring to the time you stayed at the Horman home late June 2010 through early July 2010 following Kaine’s  service of the restraining order and her exclusive use of the home?  Spicher:  I am not sure about the exclusive use part,  I didn’t really know anything about how that sort of thing worked and I think for some reason I want to say Terri was not allowed to show anyone.

Stoy: Ok.  Tell me everything you know about that. But, I would like you to see if you can provide me your recollection from what you were told about steroid use PRIOR to your conversations about it that refreshed your memory.  By the way, who else knows about this, if you know.

Spicher: Terri’s attorney Stephen Houze.

Stoy:  How would you know that?

Spicher: Because I helped her load them up, what appeared to me to be syringes in a box and deliver it to her attorney’s office, she said, at his request.   She also located some cancelled checks for what she said was Kaine’s payment for steroids.  I don’t remember who they were made out to but it was not to cash.

Stoy: ok,  understood,  we will get back to that.  I want to try and focus on what she told you those “few years back.”  Do you recall what year, even ballpark.

Spicher:  I want to say, but can’t be sure, it was after her competition in 2005,  and I am tempted to say it was around the time they got married or shortly thereafter- I am just not going to be much help in remembering this if you are asking me to extract what I remembered from then on my own.

Stoy: Nope, that’s what I am asking, your fine,  I don’t want to lead you but let me ask you a few things that may help.  Do you remember where you were during the conversation.

Spicher: I remember it was either the one and only time I ever had lunch with Terri, or it was during a time she called my cell,  Terri had a lot of drama,  and so I was in a Home & Garden Show class and I recall I was saying things out loud to let he know I was not free to talk really or respond as she was talking, so I was saying things like… I don’t know,  we should probably touch base on that when I am done here, or sounds good that we chat on it later.

Stoy: The brush up the other party is not getting, like that?

Spicher:  Yes, she was not getting it and so I was kind of 50% paying attention.  It was either during that call or at the lunch.  Other than that, I am not remembering the timing so well.

Stoy: But you would say a few years before Kyron went missing so based on that 2007 or 2008? Do you remember if they were married at the time?

Spicher: Again, we were friends for a good number of years but not close friends, I almost felt like if she was calling me or talking to me about it she had no other option at the time.

Stoy: Got it.  What did she say

Spicher:  She said that Kaine had been aggressive with her and impatient with the children and she attributed that to his “juicing”.  She confronted him and she felt he did not listen to her.  She told me that she then called a detective and turned in Kaine’s seller.  The member at the gym, I used to know the name but I really can’t recall because I was in the early morning crowd and this guy was more afternoon, I presume when they were there or they saw him.  I had stopped going to the same gym as them ater the first year or two I met them there.

Stoy: So she called a detective to turn in the seller Kaine was buying steroids from?  Wasn’t she concerned about the fact that buying them is also illegal and that Kaine could face charges?

SPicher: She told me that she contacted a detective and said she would be willing to turn over information about someone selling steroids but only if she could do so anonymously and without saying who was buying them, etc.

Stoy: So it was your understanding that she was trying to work out a scenario that would stop Kaine’s use without him ever knowing it was her by turning in that person?  Sort of like…  she gets approval to remain anonymous,  she gives the tip and then one day comes home and says… “Hey honey, guess what I heard at the gym.. you better stop that or you could be arrested for it, etc?

Spicher: Yes, something like that.  Except and again,  we have discussed it at one or both these occasions, but that did not work out.  The detective called her again directly and she was upset that there was further contact.  From what I recall,  I think that was the tone of what she was telling me.

Stoy: Understood,  so you are thinking that it may have been why she was sort of wired about it and not hearing you try to go about your day,  but insisting and venting like she was upset by it.

Spicher: Yes,  I think so.

Stoy: Do you think she could have called you because your Dad was law enforcement and she might need that sort of advice.  I don’t think so because she did not ask for any.  So then what?  Did Kaine find out?

Spicher: I just remember there was some sort of investigation of the guy,  and I really don’t know if Kaine ever found out about it or knows to this day.   If the seller or anyone was arrested or anything else at the time I do not remember,  that was how much I paid attention to it then until Terri reminded me of it.

Stoy: Ok.  Now, why is it that Terri was discussing it with you when you were staying at the house with her in your view?

Spicher:    Because after the restraining order was served and I guess she realized where Kaine was headed,  it was sort of like- if he was going to badmouth her, in her estimation it was false, but anyway, that Kaine had skeletons in his own closet sort of thing.   She told her lawyer [Houze] and she said he instructed her to bring the syringes and the cancelled checks to his office.   We did.

Stoy: So was Terri saying that Kaine was using steroids behind her back and she found this or that she knew and was having sort of the same reaction as last time, or she just learned once he was out of the home or what?  Was she suggesting this to you like it had something to do with Kyron’s disappearance?

Spicher:  I got the impression she did not know, or at least did not know when the last time he was using them was, but it gets fuzzy for me there because it is my belief up until the time the RO was served,  in my opinion she would have tried to protect Kaine from le finding out so I don’t know if she told le,  but it would surprise me.  Terri was always very family centric.  She would protect her family unit, and that is why she did the turning in thing,  this would seem the same to me until he made those murder for hire allegations.

Stoy: So did you get the impression from her that she thought that her allegation of Kaine’s steroid use had anything to do with Kyron’s disappearance?

Spicher: No, not at all.

Stoy: Nothing like, maybe this happened as some sort of retribution against her for turning someone in previously or against Kaine if they thought he was involved because after all she says he was the one buying it back then?

Spicher: No, she told me she had no idea who was responsible for Kyron’s disappearance or why, and the only possibility she came up with after the fact because of his past behavior and the fact that he showed up at her door demanding $10,000 she had no idea what he was talking about, that it was the landscaper.   He was the only person acting like a criminal at the time.

Stoy: Have you ever seen a text of hers involving the custody situation after the fact, after the Rudy Sanchez Estrada “sting”  and she called police twice that day/evening that ended with “mark 1 for the FBI.”

Spicher: I may have, if I did I don’t remember it specifically.

Stoy: She specifically said the FBI,  who has only ever assisted in this case, and who has no jurisdictional presence in Kyron’s case, I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on that.

Spicher: No, I don’t have any idea what she meant.

Is it possible that illegal steroid use or sales and the recent public outing there was an ongoing Federal Investigation with the emphasis on police and gym members that included persons familiar to the Horman’s  contributed to the circumstances involving the disappearance of Kyron Horman?

Has it been excluded by having more law enforcement investigating themselves?


Roid Rumors and Boys In Blue.. Coincidence Or Clue?

It is no secret that Oregon has seen it’s share of corruption allegations in recent years.  The very public and very disturbing account of it’s Governor Neil Goldschmidt’s involvement with a 14 year old girl earned Willamette Week’s Nigel Jaquiss a Pulitzer in 2005 for breaking the story a year earlier.  As a strong argument for the trickle down effect,  Goldschmidt’s former driver Bernie Giusto- who became the Multnomah County Sheriff following the debacle,  was forced to resign his position when a State agency declared they would be removing his police certifications due to his lack of “moral fitness” outlined in the now infamous Giusto Report.   A former Sheriff,   Bob Skipper, was then appointed to take his place, but after two attempts could not pass the required certifications.  The current Multnomah Sheriff Dan Staton, who has since won an election, was appointed in his place.  Several current MCSO officers assigned to Kyron’s case were interviewed for the Giusto report.

In fact,  Bobby O’Donnell was the lead investigator in Kyron’s case for the first 18 months who according to his own words in his interview was the unfortunate subject of an allegation involving his own very messy divorce.

MCSO Sgt Brett Ritchie stated in a police interview that O’Donnell was seen waving a gun and threatening his life [Ritchie] after he began dating O’Donnell’s ex wife. Laura O’Donnell was granted a restraining order against him that later became an agreement between the couple.

The lead investigator in the case of a missing child openly threatened a ranking officer and that incident was never investigated outside of Ritchie being told to stay away from O’Donnell.   O’Donnell’s deposition and his motion to quash it are the subject of a hearing scheduled for Friday September 13, 2013.

There is no question the agency tasked with the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman has had several and more recent embarrassing entanglements.

In another investigative piece by the Willamette Week,  it exposes the egregious overtime paychecks that members of the prosecutors and investigators assigned to Kyron’s case have received during the early months following Kyron’s disappearance.

It is unclear how Multnomah County ever had jurisdiction in the investigation of Kyron’s disappearance. According to the Skyline School’s filed safety and response plan,  the Portland Police Bureau is the agency of record.

Multnomah County’s former woes might have paled a bit in comparison if only by the difference a year makes to public memory, to that of their fellow neighboring officers in Canby, located in Clackamas County.

After several investigations into the selling and possible use of anabolic steroids  a Canby Police officer, which were repeatedly stalled due to his caption  tipping other’s off  in the alleged ring ,  Officer Jason Deason was arrested along with Canby Landscape Supply Owner William Traverso,  Brian Casey Paul Jackson were arrested.  The investigation was believed to be ongoing and Traverso, Deason and Jackson all cut deals for quick prison stints that shocked fellow officers and the public alike.   The specifics of which were sealed by the court.  It is now known that the Federal Bureau of Investigation continued to require the ongoing cooperation of it’s criminals turned informants to pursue federal indictments against possible targets in law enforcement and members of the bodybuilding set- to include acquaintances of Kaine and Terri Horman.

Presuming the confirmed allegations are true- is it possible that ‘a few years back’ Terri Horman unwittingly set off a state turned Federal investigation into the buying, using and selling of human growth hormone and anabolic steroids?  How could this be connected, if it is, to the timing of Kyron’s disappearance even if she had?

“… Jackson,   through a plea deal on state charges in 2009 where he admitted to selling anabolic steroids to Canby police officers in uniform, had been working with the FBI on an ongoing investigation when they confronted him with the knowledge that he was found deceptive on a polygraph designed to indicate if Jackson’s participation was far more extensive then he originally admitted to…”

“…Jackson, with his attorney, began cooperating with federal authorities shortly after his arrest.  He identified his source for steroids as Vancouver resident Rainbow “Bo” Wild Keepers, 39, a competitive bodybuilder and photographer. Agents ran Keepers’ name in federal databases and discovered that an Arizona man had tipped off the Drug Enforcement Administration years ago that Keepers was his source of steroids. Keepers was never charged…”

 On June 3rd, 2010,  approximately 24 hours before Kyron Horman’s disappearance,  Jackson was arrested on a Federal warrant following a sealed indictment issued the day before after failing a polygraph and refusing to help the FBI further.

From the Indictment:

Between June 2, 2005 and May 2008, in the District of Oregon, BRIAN CASEY PAUL JACKSON, defendant herein, did knowingly and unlawfully distribute human growth hormone for use in a human, to a person with the initials B.W., whose full name is known to the grand jury,  in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sction 333(e)(l).


It has since been revealed that the initials BW stand for Bradley Worden.  Worden owns a few businesses, all relating to wholesale gym equipment or nutritional products.  Worden has never been charged.

 Between June 2006 and June 2007, in the District of Oregon, BRIAN CASEY PAUL JACKSON, defendant herein, did knowingly and unlawfully distribute human growth hormone for use in a human, to a person with the initials N.W., whose full name is known to the grand jury, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sction 333(e)(l).


The identity of the person with initials NW is unknown.


Between June 2, 2005, and December 2007,: in the District of Oregon, BRIAN CASEY PAUL JACKSON, defendant herein, did knowingly and unlawfully distribute anabolic steroids, Schedule illcontrolled substances, to a person with the initials G.P., whose full name is known to the grand jury, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sections 84l(a)(l) and

841(b)( 1)(E).


The identity of the person with the initials G.P is unknown.


Between June 2, 2005, and June 2007, in the District of Oregon, BRIAN CASEY PAUL JACKSON, defendant herein, did knowingly and unlawfully distribute anabolic steroids, Schedule III controlled substances, to a person with the initials S.B., whose full name is known  to the grand jury, in violation of Title 21, United States Code, Sections 84l(a)(l) and 84l(b)(1)(E).


The initials S.B. refer to Steve Beaudoin,  a former work associate of Jackson’s and current Oregon State safety officer.


According to assistant U.S. Attorney Jane Shoemaker, Jackson sold Beaudoin at least 50 pills of the steroid Winstrol, an injectable steroid called Deca Durabolin, Sustanon and, in June 2007, 100 pills of Anavar on one to two occasions. Shoemaker also said Jackson sold Beaudoin $500 worth of human growth hormone. Investigators discovered the sales through witness interviews and Jackson’s computer records, Shoemaker said.



From Buff To Puff


In contrast to Jackson,  although Traverso also sold to Deason and other members of law enforcement,  William ‘Jake’ Traverso, a former competitive bodybuilder and “Mr. Oregon”  cooperated extensively with the FBI by identifying other law enforcement officers he sold steroids to, and got a lenient sentence of 15 days in jail, 30 days home detention and 24 months probation, with no federal charges.

In a letter submitted to a Clackamas County judge Monday, FBI Special Agent Christopher Frazier said that Traverso has discussed his drug distribution activities in detail. “The public safety employees identified by Traverso included law enforcement officers, corrections officers, fire and rescue personnel and university public safety officers,” Frazier wrote,  “Several spin-off FBI public corruption investigations were initiated as a result of these allegations, and are ongoing.”


Traverso, Deason and Jackson were cooperating with the Feds simultaneously, and in a very public way.  Although Deason had been similarly employed by the Canby Police under Chief Greg Kroeplin, at least one of the raids on Traverso- Deason’s client,  was by Deason’s Canby fellow officer James Murphy.


John Hingson, Traverso’s attorney and past commentator on the Horman case,  sparred with then ADA Norm Frink as well.  Hingson unearthed the report that included Murphy had been demoted following Deason’s arrest and his credibility was called into question.  Murphy worked the graveyard shift with Deason.  The report also revealed that both Deason and Officer James Murphy, who was one of the few to initiate an investigation into Deason’s steroid abuse, were put at risk when they were scheduled to work side by side as the only two officers on that shift.

“…Hingson obtained a 2009 report written by private detectives the City of Canby had hired to investigate the steroid scandal. Among their findings: Murphy had been demoted from detective to officer for alleged dishonesty…”

Chief GregKroeplin resigned prior to release of a scorching memo outlining the city’s findings they had outsourced properly to two retired Oregon detectives, which would have resulted in his termination.

Murphy, still employed by Canby Police, is apparently looking to renew the agencies stint for bad press.


On October 13, 2011, six months after former Willamette Week journalist James Pitkin featured his Lord of The Flies article outlining Murphy’s internal investigation led to his demotion for dishonestly, he arrested a freelance sports reporter while taking pictures of him exiting the Canby Police Headquarters on duty and entering his personal vehicle.

Andrew Millbrooke  filed a Federal lawsuit in 2012 against The City of Canby,  Officer James Murphy and his captain Bret Smith  for excessive force and wrongful arrest which took place after Murphy used his cruiser to follow Millbrooke who was on foot.   In a police report from another officer in the case, Millbrooke tells him he is a freelance journalist trying to expose corruption and drug use by Officer Murphy.  The suit is pending.  A review of the declarations by both Mr. Smith and Mr. Murphy do not include the details of the investigative report commissioned by The City Of Canby discussing Mr. Murphy’s prior demotion.  Mr. Murphy also had a recent court decision regarding improper procedure [See Bonneau].


With pending motions to release the employment files of some Canby police officers to include Murphy, the charges against  Traverso were dismissed  this past May due the state delaying the case over 23 months.

Traverso, Deason and Jackson are all currently on probation.  Traverso is awaiting trial on recent charges involving watermelon theft.

As the Federal Bureau of Investigation is listed as an investigative partner to MCSO in the Kyron Horman investigation, it is their policy not to release files where they are not the lead agency of record or during an ongoing criminal investigation .

Requests for comment from Kaine Horman through his attorney Brett Engel regarding the allegations that he has either purchased or sold  illegal steroids have not been returned at the time of this publication.

However, in an article published to include a quote from Kaine Horman it seems that Kaine confirms Ms. Spicher’s assertion that Terri Horman did not use illegal steroids,  but rather nutritional supplements and had moved past those very quickly after her bodybuilding competition.

“…Kaine said he noticed a sharp shift in her behavior, saying she became self-centered and short-tempered.

“She’s not eating a lot of food, she’s exercising twice a day, she’s up at 4 o’clock in the morning, she’s not sleeping at night so we get just general irritable behavior towards everyone around her,” he said.

He said she consumed over-the-counter stimulants, such as fat burners, in high doses. In four months between January and April, she shed 62 pounds, dropping from 185 to 123 pounds, he said.

At the end of April, with her muscles bulked up and skin glistening with a bronze tan, she competed in the Emerald Cup bodybuilding competition in Bellevue, Wash…”

S.Christina Stoy, Editor In Chief, was able to independently confirm Ms. Spicher’s account of alleged steroid use and ensuing investigation of a gym member as told to her by Terri Horman.

The source,  an associate of Terri Horman, DeDe Spicher and Kaine Horman who declined to be identified, went on to say that at the time it was “… really common knowledge who was using steroids and who was selling them…”   “… was not aware previously that Terri Horman claimed to have instigated contact with law enforcement to turn in the seller…”  The source declined to identify the seller and could not say for certain if he was charged and likely would not away- given the request not to disclose the source’s name on the record.

Reached for comment,  Terri Moulton Horman Attorney Stephen Houze declined to comment based on his policy of not speaking publicly when a client has pending legal matters.

A request for comment to Mr. Bunch,  Terri Horman’s divorce attorney has not been returned by the time of this publication.


More Questions Than Answers..

Following several hours of interviews with  DeDe Spicher, the woman who was not a close friend to Terri Horman but ultimately was the closest to her in the early days of the investigation- are we left with more questions than answers about what could have happened to the little boy whose 11th birthday was 2 days ago?

Spicher concedes that anything she discussed as told to her by Terri Horman in some minor instances may only be verifiable by Horman herself- and she is not talking… Yet.

She also points out that ultimately everything she told me she shared with investigators as far as “truthfulness” was confirmed by a polygraph – to include the question “Was she withholding any information from investigators?”

She was not.

Although limited, Spicher’s accounts in many instances confirm sparse information heard early on from Terri herself.  Not the least of which was that although widely criticized for not speaking out publicly, she was told by investigators not to under any circumstances- and when she broached the possibility of retaining counsel was told that she would then be cut off from any information as to the investigation process to find Kyron Horman.

Through Spicher,  Horman also confirmed that out of concern for Horman’s “spacieness”  which she defined by walking into a room and staring off, not remembering, etc,  Terri Horman called his pediatrition Thursday June 3rd and made an appointment for Friday June 11th.  His last day of school. Horman also told Spicher that Kyron had wondered off or got lost while in his teacher Ms. Porter’s care once before when following a fellow student out of class.

Initially, prior to learning Kyron had been marked absent not very long after she left the building, that was Horman’s first thought.  Those hopes grew into panic with that revelation that he had been missing for hours.


Spicher says Terri was adamant that she never had a sexual relationship with the now infamous landscaper Rudy Sanchez Estrada  Spicher agrees that her friend had the propensity to be flirtatious but she never knew her to be sexually promiscuous.  Outside of the fact that she says at Kaine’s request to occasionally include an additional female in the bedroom,  to which Spicher declined, she was not aware that the Horman’s had a swinger lifestyle.

To her knowledge,  there were other women that were asked to participate in a threesome with the couple that did not say no some years ago, but had no current knowledge and she herself was never involved with Horman sexually.

In her take, the addition of a 3rd female was an expression of control on Kaine’s part in the relationship.


Terri explained the landscapers “sexual accosting” , previously reported exclusively by www.blinkoncrime this way:

“… She said she had Kitty on her hip and he came up behind her and was kissing her neck and put his arm around her and when she verbally resisted with concern that Kitty was in her arms he sort of grabbed her and she spun around and broke free…”


Spicher adds that on more than one occasion she tried to bring that up during meetings with DA Norm Frink and investigators.  One one occasion, as suggested by her Father, a former Klamath County Marine Officer,  at their own expense  The Klamath County Sheriff and his first lieutenant had  agreed to meet with Frink, Spicher and her father on DeDe’s behalf to sort of provide character backgrounds and family history he felt would be helpful in clearing her.

“…  This came up in the first interview I had with Mr Frink and I told him she had made that call. Later in the interview when he was trying to push more of my buttons, he tells me that call never happened (implying Terri had lied to me). I told him okay, that’s what you’re telling me, but I recall it differently (implying he was lying to me right then). He got very angry about that and insisted it was “fact”. I said okay, whatever. Much later, like one of the last times I met with Mr Frink, the Klamath County Sheriff and his 1st Lieutenant flew up on their own dime to meet with Mr Frink & Keith Krafve to see if they could help by offering their opinion of my character, and that it didn’t seem unusual to them at all that I would go help Terri, that it is very consistent with how my family has always been. At that meeting, I retold the story of Rudy sexually accosting Terri (her words), but said I wasn’t sure about the 911 call. That totally infuriated Mr Frink. I told him I was trying to believe him and simply not certain about what I could remember on that point.


The DAs office behaved very strangely toward the Klamath Co Sheriff and his Lt. They tried everything they could to keep us separated and even insisted that they (the DAs office) drive them back to the airport, despite the fine fact that we (Dad & I) had picked them up and brought them in, and would definitely be seeing them again in the near future. It was just weird, to all of us…”


I asked DeDe if she used the term called 911 in every exchange.  She had.  I asked her if she got the impression that the reason Frink was so sure it never happened was because there was no 911 call on the record about it – could it be that maybe she reached out to that former law enforcement person she contacted on the steroid issue and it was actually a dispatch call versus a trackable 911 call issue.

Spicher says she got the impression that Frink was suggesting that the “accosting” as described by her friend did not happen, but could not be sure except to say that Frink seemed to become irate when she brought it up on every occasion.  Spicher felt Sanchez Estrada was the only person behaving like a criminal and that supported the accounts she was given.

I asked DeDe if Terri mentioned ever paying Sanchez Estrada for work at the Horman home.  She said she did not recall Terri ever saying anything other than she had no idea what he was talking about when he came to the door and asked for $10,000 so she slammed the door in his face and called 911.

Stoy: So did she think it was some sort of extortion attempt now that she had mentioned him to investigators and they told her that they had interviewed him?

Spicher: She thought that he was dangerous from her past experience.

Stoy: Did you think it was odd that with a brand new John Deere tractor parked outside that TH was hiring a landscaper?  I was able to confirm through other sources that he cleared some blackberry or blueberry bushes similar to Ms. Von Klevelen,  and the tractor does not have a UCC lien on it, meaning it was not financed.

Spicher:  No, it wasn’t.  Kaine bought it.  It was Terri’s job to manage the inside of the house as well as the entire property.   I knew that when Kaine would travel he would come up with this project lists for her to complete by the time he got home.  I  mean, like cleaning the gutters,  cutting the grass, washing all the windows, that sort of thing.  To the best of my recollection Terri and Kaine did not have bank accounts together- he controlled everything he made.

Stoy: With a baby,  7 year old and teenager and hubby out of town? How was she managing that?  No wonder he was suggesting that she was pouring through money like water or something like that, she was probably hiring help.  I am not even sure I think a woman by herself at that property with a baby should be on the roof by herself anyway.

Spicher:  No,  Terri  had to pay any support money or whatever to the household expenses and I have surmised Kaine gave her some sort of allowance which she probably blew through pretty quickly on frivolous things like food and clothes for her children.  I have never known Terri to be frivolous with money.  I know of at least two times when the projects she was supposed to accomplish were impossible for her to manage.  One was the windows so I believe she hired someone that time and as I recall her parents paid for that.  I believe the other was the landscaper.

Stoy: Is it a fair question for me to ask how you feel about Kaine, from your tone I am sensing you are not a fan.

Spicher: I have tremendous compassion for Kaine- he lost his child- what can one even say about that?  But no, he is not someone I would want to be friends with today and I was cordial to him whenever I was around him but he was very controlling and was pretty mean to Terri about her weight from Kitty, things like that- I am not going to have anything in common with that.

Stoy:  Did Terri ever mention anything about conflicts with Desiree Young, whether they were between her and she or Kaine and Desiree?

Spicher: Not that I recall, but I also never heard her speak of Desiree negatively at any time previously or when I stayed with her [Terri].

Stoy: That is saying a lot because right after the sting Ms. Young was pretty accusatory pretty quickly- and I do note that was based on information from law enforcement.  Similar to some of the things both she and Kaine said publicly about you.  Are you angry about that?

Spicher:  O my no.  That poor woman is going through hell and acted on information that I was told, lie or not, was given to her and Kaine.  I have nothing but compassion for her and I wish I could shoulder some of her pain because I can..   I have nothing but compassion for all of Kyron’s parents and any anger I have over how I was treated, what I went through would never be directed at them.   I really pray that Kyron will be found,  I choose to put my energy into hope for that.

Pending Matters

Through Attorney Bunch,  Terri Horman makes the claim that both law enforcement and Kaine Horman have been perpetrating the dissemination of inaccurate information involving the circumstances of Kyron Horman’s disappearance.

In a recent filing, set for hearing this Friday,  Bunch pens a scathing reply to Deputy O’Donnell’s motion to quash, and accuses the county of improper ex parte communication.

Early this afternoon,  a source within the Multnomah County Courthouse speaking on the condition of anonymity has confirmed that on behalf of Multnomah County, a motion has been filed to limit certain documents or discoverable information related to Mr. Horman and Bobby O’Donnell of the MCSO.

A hearing is scheduled before Judge Kantor for this Friday September 13, 2013



Jacqueline Beaufort,  Ellie Sanders – research and contributing editors to this article.

Jason Mateos- contributing editor, copy.



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  1. SouthernMom says:

    @T. Ruth says:

    September 11, 2013 at 8:51 pm

    What worries me now is this is all going to come down to pissin’ matches between K & T & DY, “he said” “she said” “he did” “she did”…..blah blah blah, and meantime nobody is looking for the real culprit. I agree it is time for the Attorney General to step in, or the FBI needs to step in and take this case over based on whatever means is possible, and the roid connection, if true, should be enough for them to do that, I would think.


    Agreed…the pissin’ is about to begin…I pray that is so…because IMO this is better than the unsubstantiated spewin’ that’s been happin’ for too long.

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.

  2. M Harris says:


  3. SouthernMom says:

    @kimberly says:

    September 11, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    right there with ya , Erose. I’m speechless.

    DDS—–> I cannot begin to tell you how thankful I am that you have stepped forward to progress finding Kyron.

    Blink, —–> your’re my hero.

    As a resident of Multnomah county, I am disgusted , saddened, faithless and untrusting. SMH!!!


    I’m curious to know if you feel the “talk” has been more active with the new details revealed here? I know from comments on “O” that many have their minds made up and regardless of who is finally charged and brought to justice in this case. Many will always believe TH had something to do with it….but, I’m curious to know if there are new “worries” in light of what has been reported here. Is anyone worried of the potential dangers of an unknown perp that could still be lurking in the area?

    Thanks for your contributions here.

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.

  4. SouthernMom says:

    Last one tonight…I wonder if RS, the LS, obtained any type of immunity prior to participating in the sting? Hmmm…oops??

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.

  5. Kat says:

    Wow. Floored and flailing in complete revulsion of what has/ has not been done to find Kyron. Sends an icy blade down my spine thinking of the self- serving, callous, manipulating, deceptive, conniving behaviors of LE, and the bullying immoral abuse some women endure from men while trying to bring a family to adulthood. No wonder she sent James to a safer home. Wonder what his depo revealed of this situation ?

    Drug abuse is a scourge on society—- but when those who pledge to serve & protect are involved, it seems they self-serve & self protect?

    As for Rudy, he sounds like a creep.

    Washing windows, cleaning gutters, landscape upkeep in a rural location—- steam is blowing from my ears. Slavery ended long ago. Cannot even begin to think about threesome.

    Just sick that twitchy, zit faced, nut-shrunk, needle- lovers could have done something to Kyron — and those who should be investigating are not.

    Ok— rant done.

    Oh, yes— great article Blink. Thanks, Dede
    Making my way off the floor—

  6. Amys Sister says:

    Traverso is awaiting trial on recent charges involving watermelon theft.


  7. VW says:

    So… the divorce hearing is on Friday.

    Some might want to be there.

    Where from here…what does Dede suggest?

    How to get this into the mainstream?

  8. Retroll says:

    Read them all. All the posts, and listened to multiple podcasts. Are you saying you aren’t pointing a finger at LE?
    You included a whole lot of information about LE involved with steroids, then just leave it open to interpretation. What did that connection mean to you?

    I am saying that I spent 15,000 words on my findings. I included fact-based info. If you are suggesting a theory than suggest it. Otherwise I have zero interest in posters that are not here to be constructive but here to interrupt flow.

    And I am in no way trying to be a jackwagon but I just wrote a basis sociology experiment lab on flow interruption. Many applications (ers).


  9. VW says:

    ReTroll says:
    September 11, 2013 at 11:39 pm
    So… Our theory is that the three year delay in solving this case is due to a connection between supposed illicit steroid use by KH and LE? When the task force was in full force it seems most if not all of this information was available. How was the MCSO able to shield themselves from all of the other agencies who were collaboratively working side by side to look at leads, most of which were followed up two or three times?

    You are intimating foul play by LE, KH, DY, and others who thought that TMH and DS staying silent was suspicious. Now she talks to you and you are so impressed. If this was the vibe she got from the start, why not just speak out earlier, especially when the other LE agencies were more actively involved.

    It just doesn’t add up to me. MCSO has no power over Portland, FBI, and all of the other agencies. If I felt MCSO was playing things I would have sung from all the rooftops I could find to let others know.
    IMHO this seems quite a stretch.


    MCSO does NOT have power over PPD.
    Nor FBI.

    They dropped the case. Are you asking why?
    The DA’s office and MCSO were left. In very close proximity with the bios.

    Shouldn’t you ask why?


  10. patriciamochalatte says:

    Couple of things. Maybe more.
    Firstly lol@ Blink for humbly admitting to interrupting. (I try diligently not to do that myself. Note: try.)
    Next, TY is what type of officer?
    DAD acted strangely by all accounts. He was shot at by LE and is listed as missing correct?
    Does Rainbow currently have investment in health food store called Rainbow Market?

  11. SouthernMom says:

    Ok…I guess I unintentionally lied…as I’m posting one more.

    I feel Terri has been wrongfully accused based on what we, the public, know. Certainly LE may have trump cards we are not aware of, but they have yet to play them, so I have come to the assumption no trump cards exist. IMO their last hope was Ms. Spicher, who IMO did “what it took”, against her first wishes, to “make it happen”.

    I come from a PR background and wonder what if? What if Terri had held a press conference the day she obtained counsel to announce her reasons for doing so. Stating something to the effect….I have done my best to help LE in the case involving my missing stepson, Kyron. I’ve interviewed them ## times and spent ## hours answering their questions. I’ve cooperated and complied. Until now, I have not spoken to the public or media at the request of LE. It is with great regret that I am seeking counsel to insure my constitutional rights are being protected and to help me reunite with my daughter Kiara. I have been accused privately of knowing things I know nothing about. I must protect myself for my children as I am innocent of these accusations. I pray for Kyron to be found safe and to come home. I absolutely have no knowledge of any kind about what happened to Kyron, where he is, or who took him. On the advice of my counsel I will not be making further public comments until this matter is closed. Just know, I love Kyron and pray for his well being and to come home and I could never and would never do anything to harm him in any way.

    I do feel any statement along these lines would have prevented a lot of speculation…part of the basis for widespread hatred is she has not spoken publically…therefore many assume she has something to hide.

    This case is classic teaching for corrupt LE to know what to do to “focus” on one particular suspect. Convince them there are detrimental consequences if the speak out to keep them quiet and the jury of the public will convict them before trial on the basis they must be hiding something.

    Ugh…hot mess to the infinity–th degree.

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.



  12. January says:

    Blink, thanks for all your hard work and dedication to Kyron. Looking forward to seeing what happens after this starts to circulate. Although the cancelled checks and box of syringes don’t actually prove anything, it would be interesting to see how eager and cooperative Kaine would be to take another poly now.

  13. Amys Sister says:

    Goldschmidt, Giusto, O’Donnell, Frink, Deason (and his captain), Murphy, the death of Bergeson (who was found dead, ruled a natural death, then later a homicide by strangulation), the abduction of Kyron, steroids, etc…

    Portland is thick in it. I’m talking neck deep.

    Desiree can keep on trying but if something radical doesn’t happen this case will never be solved.

    link re Nancy Bergeson:

  14. sam h says:

    there was a large funeral for a LE on june 4 2010, maybe its possible to get a list of the attendees? Might not show anything but i would like to know. Also if kyrons disapearance is unrelated to steroid stuff, it furthers the opportunistic sz theory, great time to rob a bank or whatever is when most of le is at a funeral.

  15. Amys Sister says:

    Staton wished he didn’t have knowledge of things he now knows.

    Maybe he wished it wasn’t an inside job?

    How do you point the finger at one of your own?

    Honestly, this makes the most sense of any other theory. How else could it all be so controlled? So formulated, hush, hush, media on board, judges on board, etc…

    And Tony suddenly quiet.

    Just boggles the mind.

  16. Amys Sister says:

    If this goes too deeply down the rabbit hole I may start to wonder if David Anthony Durham was being set up.

  17. SouthernMom says:

    @Rose says: (ok I have a habit…I admit it)

    September 11, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    thanks so much for the link and the timestamps for the applicable information to Frink and this case for Kyron.

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.


  18. Rose says:

    @Southern. wrt to landscaper & immunity deals.
    Anyone think his frontal lobes go that far?
    imo Rudy, Bobby, & the sting were all about a macho bonding event,
    with a little grease to & from one who
    just wanted to help LE and her client.
    I think we have to trust Bunch & Houze to be willing to litigate this one.
    Altho I hope Wagner rides to rescue as needed.
    The worry is B&H are sharp enough to know they cannot reform DA & MCSO
    on the back of this case & so will do the equivalent of “plea” wrt custody.
    Reform would take a determined DOJ plus supportive electorate.
    —Whatever, the O needs to juggle reporters & throw Nick at this case.

  19. SouthernMom says:

    Ok ~ seriously this time…one last question before the sandman takes over…lol.

    Did you ask DeDe or can you report if there was any truth or speculation from DeDe or Terri (through DeDe) to the speculation of an affair between Kaine and a fellow Intel employee or other woman that was “outside” of any bedroom threesome arrangements?

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.

    DeDe had no information from TMH in that regard.

  20. Rose says:

    @retroll. It has been here woth url several times MCSO is signatory to an interagency agreement whereby PPB has jurisdiction over all crimes on PPS property.
    So why didn’t that agreement get implemented with PPB’s 12 detectives who were apparently ready to roll?

    If I were to theorize, fbi eased ppb (fbi’s non-cooperators re anti-terrorism TF)
    out at request of mcso (fbi’s cooperators re AntiTerrorism TF).

    Getting PPB on Board with same was new fbi field director’s raison d’etre.

    Why mcso wanted this case is another matter.

    would pushing for jurisdiction include Reisor, initially paired with his
    supervisee O’Donnell, and the Kravfe/Herrons of mcso-land?

    Any pics of Reisor’s arms? Just saw,
    on images, 1 of Kaine’s rite arm,
    preabduction. Sadly, when one googles
    Kaine images, all one sees is DY weeping and weeping
    in pic after pic with him.

  21. ReTroll says:

    You no like my last comment?:-(

    For someone that claims to be the web version of Evelyn Wood, apparently this format does not allow you to see posted comments, with my response?

    Look, in case it is lost on your trolling bowling effort, here’s a clue- If you watch the cauldron, it will boil anyway. Nobody ever wants Borscht?

  22. ReTroll says:

    If interrupting the flow, as you put it, means that I don’t jump on your thought and just go with it as fact, then you are quite correct. I first read your articles and thought you had an open mind. i am now reading a lot of bias in your information. That bias has shifted drastically over time, with you initially having less than glowing things to say about TMH and DDS. I am fine that your thoughts and opinions have changes, as they are your to do so as you wish. i am troubled however that you say this is fact based, throw a lot of insinuation and accusation at LE, and feel that is at a high level of journalistic integrity. I will stop interrupting the flow now… Carry on your myopic bonfire of angst against the evil KH and LE, just don’t claim being open minded and unbiased:-).
    ReTroll OUT.

    1. Does it bother anyone else that when someone has a critique they feel valid, they can’t be bothered to source it? Quote me, or how would you possibly expect me to address it? That’s my point, if you want your opinion to be taken seriously you have to be specific. Nobody respects general whining.

    2. General insinuations about LE? Not fact based? Again- what directly are you referring to because there are source links provided in support, and in some cases, legal filing excerpts. Are you clicking on those or doing any independent research for any confirmations you feel are “opinion” based? I do provide my opinion and specify so in the comment section but having spent the amount of hours we have in research and fact check, source development etc on this series I take exception to you saying I am insinuating or accusing anything that is not presented exactly as verified.

    3. I think everyone should look at this case from an advocacy perspective, and so as the information we now learn affects opinion, that is just reality.

    4. My coverage on this case, which is extensive, has been fair and has followed the developments in the case and simultaneously for a professional criminal analyst I can tell you that if after over 3 years LE can’t move past a suspect pool of one ( was 2 with Spicher until cleared) to wit: Terri Horman, when one can assume based on Spicher’s sworn testimony and polygraph LE has not a scintilla of evidence against her and THEY KNOW Kyron was last seen with SZ, someone with the authority to do so had better take an inventory of just what the hell these people are doing. Instead of trying to hide behind “ongoing investigation” privilege so they don’t have to admit any of this fiasco publicly.


  23. erose says:

    And a great time and place for an alibi.

    sam h says:
    September 12, 2013 at 1:11 am

  24. Lucy says:

    Google S. Christina Stoy, Blink On Crime.. there you will see many many many people and webpages comlaining that Christina Stoy, Blink On Crime fabricated truth repeatedly and refused to take down the lies. She (Ms. Stoy) Has her own victims who are devastated at how she ruined their lives through these lives. DO NOT believe anything reporte here without researching credibility of we web page and editor.

    Yes, please DO YOUR research. Having a stalker who is clearly without all of their faculties does not lessen my credibility. I have never fabricated a syllable- Moreover, I think it is beyond hilarious that the very article where I discussed PUBLICLY RELEASED info, allowed Mr. Cray Cray to post anything he wanted and edited what he asked with notes was RECENTLY CONFIRMED by Isabel Celis’s parents. I am guessing that missed the cut? You would think that if someone was genuinely interested in helping an investigation, where the POI is discussed (Uncle) they would be promoting it, wouldn’t you?

    And one of those ninny allegations on there is a case that resulted in the recovery of a missing woman and a successful prosecution of her murderers- of which I was a prosecution witness so if y’all want to support someone acting like a criminal I suggest that has way more to do with you than it does me.

    Make sense to you that someone who says they are upset about their name in an article, which again, was based on a public release spends all day and night posting about it? I mean, that’s some brilliance to raise your google juice, isn’t it? Wake up and question what is really going on.

    Great idea to pop on this thread, a thread about a woman who was villified for over 3 years, called a liar, and I am the person she chose to give the interview to because I HAD established credibility for seeking the truth and remained objective with no rush to judgement in this case.

    This is a readership base of folks that are heavy lifters (pun intended ba dum bump) not hate glommers so if that is your need please feel free to move on.

    Btw, last time I am addressing this- pending legal matter, end of story.

  25. Rose says:

    Bunch has shown gentlemanliness & restraint not putting Rackner on depo list.
    Then, there’s always the retiree Meisenheimer. Making his case with just enough.
    Doubtless there is corroboration wrt TMH’s parenting and KH’s counterproductive
    parenting, so KH’s risk is perjury. Perhaps TMH’s slowness in litigating was a desire
    to continue to protect the reputation of Kiara’s father, hoping for LE clearance.

    Desiree’s suit now appears as another Sting to the x power, another dream child of Frink
    or Kravfe & company, preretirement. ER got hornswoggled imo until he got
    word from someone with knowledge DDS had sworn testimony, an immunity
    agreement & passed a poly. Then he dropped the suit. that suit gambit (the request DDS
    be forced to waive the 5th) was all to bring her to that point of the GJ & poly.
    Poor James; he presents in print as naive & innocent as
    DDS. I expect TH shielded him insofar as possible from the conflicts between the parents
    & tried to present KH as a good role model as long as possible to him, so doubt his
    testimony added much. all imo.

    Rose- just want to point out that DY tort was dismissed/withdrawn PRIOR to DDS polygraph.

    So… if the reason for the withdrawl was her grand jury testimony I would offer that someone in a position to know what she said shared with Rosenthal and that could only have come from one source as DDS never even told a soul outside of her lawyer and parents she was even there- until me.

    If DDS was again the “linchpin” of the civil tort, that is some bad faith to say the least, but I don’t think she was. After all, if that were true and they had insider info, wouldn’t one wait to see if she passed a polygraph and then get her back in a compelled depo even if only to impeach her- if they were successful and became an invitation to a perjury charge, it nullifies all and immunity for her. This is why I have never believed DeDe knew anything and it was nothing to do with her (civil).

    Aside from the lack of merit-

    I believe 1000% that the “perpetration and dissemination of inaccurate information surrounding the circumstances of Kyron Horman’s disappearance” was made known to them and subsequently exposed them to the likelyhood of a countersuit and monetary award to TMH. I also believe the medical record issue was not favorable to Ms. Young and would also prove that Kyron had a scheduled Dr. appt on June 11, made on June 3rd.

    CLEARLY DY believes TMH is responsible, and she CLEARLY has been given erroneous or flat out false information she subsequently posted after our first piece published. Was it to justify the recent effort that was a secondary search of previously cleared area?

    On the KH deposition issue. There is no doubt, and I say without reservation that Ms. Moulton Horman’s allegations about Kaine’s steroid use, her actions of seeking out a LEO to turn in the seller and her alleged proof of it will be a part of that deposition and that LE will fight to restrict same by declaring it part of the ole investigative file of an ongoing investigation.

    Completely agree on Bunch’s handling of Rackner but once they actually get to the depose the folks they need to, so that respondent can “respond” so to speak, that could change.

  26. Rose says:

    OT. Mildly interesting Frink’s determination on interview
    to ensure the Governor’s drive to pass the Public Safety
    Commission’s legislative recommendations fails. Because the no. 1
    Jr ADA assigned to Kyron who worked full-time on the case
    for a year (per Gov’s press announcement of her hiring), Moawad,
    has as the goal of her job for the Governor getting that legislation
    passed. So, one small wedge between Moawad & Frink.
    She’s an anonymous source for reporters?

  27. Rose says:

    Bo Keepers represented 24 hr fitness in Vancouver WA

    At the time of the events in question above, and during
    Keeper’s 2003 lead-up, Briede (now Edge) represents
    he was the 24 Hr/Gold (merged into 24 Hr) VP for both
    Vancouver & Portland 24 Hour facilities.
    Brought “nutrition plans” into the business.

  28. Rose says:

    good article
    Keepers apparently distributed in Portland parking lots, one would
    guess of certain gyms?
    was he ever charged by Mult Cty DA, or in Fed Court?
    don’t they go after higher tier distributors?
    Wonder who Keepers could have “told on?”

  29. Classygal says:

    Not feeling comfortable posting that Classy- I know you understand.

  30. Rose says:

    Because of the Vancouver connection, I was looking in our history for that nude model photo business next to Edmonds Masonic Lodge iirc Neil did initial website for his lodge brother, & on same page I stumbled on a lengthy comment of Blink (in bold) worthy of a reread:

  31. Kat says:

    Just saw this on FB MKH page:

    Missing Kyron Horman

    A message from Kyron’s Momma, Desiree.

    For all of my faithful Kyron supporters…a new Dr Phil show that is going to be covering Kyron for a full hour on Tuesday, September 17th. Please check your local guides to find out channel and time for your area. Please share and repost, let’s show Kyron just how much we want to bring him home. Thank you.

    Ky-everything I do is for you, may God help us bring you home finally. I love you my Ky.

    Thank you. In the interest of disclosure both Ms. Spicher and myself declined an invitation to appear.

  32. GeorgiaDad says:

    The allegations of anabolic steroid use are interesting, but don’t seem to be directed at the central crime in this case, the disappearance of Kyron. K’s disappearance was a well-planned event, not a result of “rhoid rage”. There are no reports of bruising to James, Kyron or baby K, or any other physical abuse.

    Drug-related kidnappings are very common among Mexican narcotics dealers, but are very unlikely among steroid dealers.

    Possibly steroid connections may have influenced the investigation.

    It seems as if the investigation has brought a lot of family skeletons to light. Everybody seems to have something to hide, DY’s mysterious “illness”, these new allegations against KH, and of course TMH is keeping quiet. Unfortunately, although this creates great drama, it brings us no closer to finding Kyron./

    I suspect when this case is eventually solved, that most of these issues were red herrings, or only tangentially related.

    I think a few things on the steroids as an impetus.
    1. May be unrelated- but unequivocally should be excluded in every possible angle.
    2. I don’t think Kaine intentionally put Kyron in danger, or through some roid rage, or stashed him away to avoid some unpleasantness.
    3. I Don’t think Terri did any of the above either.
    4. I have seen criminals think something seems like a good idea at the time go South very quickly, most especially when the kind of heat that occurred immediately in Kyron’s case is applied. However, it would be very difficult for that situation to stay hidden completely.
    5. The coincidences in dates and times and associates cannot be avoided, and again, it appears LE has never investigated the possibility if they believed Ms. Spicher to hold the keys.
    6. The roids and cancelled checks, syringes, etc, for me, may have more to do with the possibility that was what occurred ( some overdose or illness or injection mishap) in December 2009 that LE framed as a murder for hire, and also, that Kaine likely feared what happened, that TMH would tell her attorney and he would be subject to the fallout from that.
    7. Likely it is fringe to the case, but it most certainly causes me great pause overall on the whole LE body working here, and let’s agree that it is very likely that their is an ongoing Federal investigation if by just this May an informant gets charges dismissed.
    8. Until I learn something that allows me to think otherwise, I stand by my original profile in this case- Suspect Zero.

  33. kimberly says:

    3. SouthernMom says:

    September 12, 2013 at 12:07 am

    @kimberly says:

    September 11, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    I feel things are really split. After the first segment Blink wrote
    last week, there was a stir with the local media and of course with the posters on various news and other websites, but, it seemed to die down after a couple of days.
    I’m not involved with any sort of the legal community and so I don’t know if there were nervous nellies or eyebrows that have been raised that we have not yet heard about. Silence seems to be a regular here.

    I have heard there is a bit of a feeling of being snuffed and I think because DeDe is not willing to hit the circuit and talk directly it falls under a different sort of standard for reporters with less liberty than I to cover it. Then you have their regular source machines who are non pleased- and I have no doubt that was made clear.


  34. Rose says:

    @Lucy. 3 years ago I would’ve bit & believed those google hits, but having read this case daily for years I’ve independently concluded Blink’s judgement & reasoning are excellent, & she has adapted to a niche profession, well, professionally. Posters are drawn here as posters are a cut above all other blogs in kindness, sincerity, & analytic skill, mostly lacking drama & acrimony. Have read some on other threads, Celis being one. He-who-sits-atop-electric-boxes in the early hours lacks solid ground imo. In this case imo her “accusations” are limited to the high probability of an opportunistic sexual predator (see her early profile), and that the investigation has been conducted detrimental to advance it since the beginning. Since the accusation is against a SZ, hard to say she’s falsely accused anyone. And the deputies involved have their share of negative public press, & investigations, in other preceding cases. So, what’s new?

    Can’t imagine local press beginning balanced, in depth, incisive reporting unless the O throws Nick at this, or WW, Nigel. And, in those reporters’ shoes, I’d respond “Not ripe.”

  35. Rose says:

    btw, that Lodge Pres while Neil was Sr warden,
    the same one who co-owns the nude model photo studio
    next door to lodge, touts raspberry ketone on his twitter acct.
    Actually I was looking back for that Portland business partner
    of Spink & can’t remember his name.

    It is unfortunate Kyron never kept that doctor’s appointment.
    It is sure fishy also he disappeared the day after it was made.
    Who knew? KH, Porter, whoever else Terri gabbed around the school,
    or gym, to. Q for an investigator–did she go to the gym after noon on June 3
    subsequent to making the appointment & do her usual public gab?

  36. SouthernMom says:

    Rewatching old news clips…

    @1:07 reporter claims Police say Terri admitted to hating her own step-son.

    Has anyone ever heard this “admission” directly from LE?

    Prayers for Kyron and his family.

  37. Cindy says:

    From article above by Blink: “Horman also told Spicher that Kyron had wondered off or got lost while in his teacher Ms. Porter’s care once before when following a fellow student out of class.”

    Why is Ms Porter so nonchalant about Ky being in the bathroom or getting a drink of water when she really doesn’t know where he is?

    I would think that if you had a wanderer in your classroom that you would be on top of his movements so as not to lose him again. It’s shocking that she lost him twice. Or is her response oh, he’s here somewhere and he’ll be back???

    (I’m really having a hard time with this due to a personal experience where the school lost my kindergarten age grandson on orientation day. The school separated parents and kids and took the kids to their rooms and parents remained in the gymnasium. When they brought the kids back to the gymnasium where the parents where waiting he wasn’t with them. My daughter was panic stricken as you can imagine and everyone was looking for him. They found him sitting alone in a room that they had visited and he didn’t follow the group. Needless to say they didn’t get another chance with him and she placed him in a different school. Can you imagine???)

  38. grasshopper says:

    Thank you blink and dede. wonderful detailed interview. fills in so many areas. thank you for comments. many great ideas and questions. my mind is racing.

  39. grasshopper says:

    now a question. We have read Bunch’s RESPONSE to DA’s MC’s motion and memo of law for order quashing subpoena, but where is the document itself? It should have been filed before Bunch’s response was filed. We know bunch’s response was “filed” aug 28 and “rec’d” aug 30 and was in the file this mid-week. I took the file into to spend time with it, to see if any earlier docs had been put in (as sometimes happens) and there was nothing. also if you look at the data base listing, the “events” are numbered. there is no missing number. why wan’t that document entered? was it ever actually filed? reminds me of Kantor schedulig a hearing to renew RO before the request for renewal had been filed. This document must exist somewhere for Bunch to respond to it.

  40. Nelmel says:

    Amys Sister says:
    September 11, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    “Okay, Dede has a lot to say. I know Kaine can be perceived as ‘unlikable’. That said, I’m struggling to believe Terri was forced to clean gutters, clear blackberry bushes, clean windows, raise her own son and daughter plus Kaine’s son, give Kaine her child support money, not have her name on any accounts or assets, mow the lawn, dinner, dishes, laundry, stay thin, and have threesomes.

    And Terri would not raise those issues in court until over three years later?

    Ay yay yay. Not convinced about that part yet.”


    I believe this is extremely possible. I know men like how KH is described above. Have seen them with their families, in our community. They exist. More common than people might want to feel comfortable about knowing. It is based on an extremely poor intellectual acceptance, on the part of the man, to understand that a “wife” is not a servant and is not subservient in a healthy relationship in a 21st century western society.

    These men speak like KH speaks. They are generally resistant to new information concerning either domestic life or raising children. What they know is what they know, and they usually refuse to accept that what they know might be wrong. They tend to view “the wife” as responsible for nearly everything around the home with little wiggle room. The “grunt” work is hers. The man’s job is to earn a good living and control the income. The wife is there for chores.

    Marriages like this exist all over the country, unfortunately.

    This is not to say that KH is this man as described, but, I have always suspected that he is that personality type.

    It all reminds me of a young engineer I worked with in the late 80′s who scorned his wife’s Masters Degree in Music. Her intellectual gifts did not impress him, and he was furious with her when she returned to work as a piano teacher about 3 months after having their first (and only) child. They divorced about five years later. His position remained that she was not devoted to home and family — meaning, in his mind, that she didn’t give up EVERYTHING about herself and her passions and her talents to iron his work shirts by 3pm everyday. Yep, he was that kinda guy.

    Women sometimes don’t see this in men until they’ve married them or moved in with them. These men can be dashing “courters” and sweep women off their feet.

    This trait can’t be changed in men who are like this, but it ought to be considered when a man “bashes” his wife/girlfriend if she leaves him.

  41. venetia says:

    Rose says:
    September 12, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    btw, that Lodge Pres while Neil was Sr warden,
    the same one who co-owns the nude model photo studio
    next door to lodge, touts raspberry ketone on his twitter acct.

    Funny you mention raspberry ketones – back in July, someone hacked my Granddaughters’ email and spammed everyone on her sizable friend list with a spoofed “Fox News” ad for the product – url nosnws dot com – that I checked out. The link goes to Registrar: Center of Ukrainian Internet names & the server is Eyehostdotru (Russia) I mention that bc Keepers has link/s that also goes to Russia. Of course my Hacker grp has them also – which brings me to another point – Spinks. His TR is identical to one of my long-time hackers. What a co-inky dink? Will complile info & post. BTW speaking of Spinks – he also has/had a business in Eugene (as does Keepers):


    Three Treasures Farms is a 501c3 non-profit organization, which focuses on the rehabilitation of rescued performance horses as well as helping disadvantaged children to enhance the physical, mental and emotional well-being of both. We operate out of several locations in and around beautiful Eugene, Oregon, and provide clinics throughout the Pacific Northwest in equine massage and other aspects of holistic horse care.


    In addition to her time with horses, Ferronato also worked as a peer counselor to troubled teens while still in high school, and went on to earn college degrees in both psychology and criminology. After graduation, she began working with at-risk youth professionally.

    In 1998, Ferronato left her career as a professional counselor working with adolescent sex offenders to go into training horses full time, choosing Three Treasures Farms as her business name.

    In 2004, Ferronato teamed up with Hunter/Jumper trainer Fred Lackman, and her focus shifted back to working with performance horses.

    By relocating from Portland to the Eugene area in 2009, Three Treasures Farms has been able to reduce their overhead expenses, which has allowed them to continue working to fulfill their mission in these troubled economic times.

    Exitpoint (Spinks) & Three Treasures Farm (above) formed a partnership in 2008.

  42. T. Ruth says:

    So, why are there only initials given on the two who purchased the roids, did they get a deal for ratting on LE officers?

    Also, why was Worden not charged? Same thing?

  43. T. Ruth says:

    An old blog by the Alternate Theories person, where she talks about Kaine using (and dealing) steroids, and references the same Olive article.

    Don’t know which officer this person was talking about and have no idea how she would know who it was, but in light of Dede’s news this is an interesting comment:

    Saturday, December 25, 2010
    Is Kyron Horman’s disappearance related to Kaine Horman’s steroid abuse / sales and/or Portland, Oregon law enforcement steroid abuse?


    I also find it more than coincidental that one of the so-called witnesses who allegedly saw Terri driving the truck (identified as “Chas” – I won’t post the last name here) on the morning of june 4 has the same last name as one of the officers named in this article.

  44. Rose says:

    Do you really think Frink & subsequent company believe they have a fiasco needing
    an inventory? I don’t. After listening to Frink interview, imo he, like Tony Young said of himself, determines
    guilt by his gut, and then sets off by whatever means necessary to bring justice.
    They are true believers, by gut, she is guilty and have been since before the
    first interviews of people at the Fair, as they informed interviewees that initial weekend.
    The question is why, & imo the only first weekend sources, could be 1 or all of the other 3 parents.

  45. Rose says:

    don’t you remember grasshopper, DA motions
    in this case start out ex parte,
    then get buried in the judge’s secret reading file.
    just kidding.
    @Venetia. I was reminded looking back there was a poster here,
    Carol, in 2011 that could trace any computer routing amywhere
    & who was behind it.

    What I don’t get is why the upstream seller to the downward Canby
    & Portland food chain seems footloose & fancy free.
    Even married this summer in Eugene
    where the notice said he resides.

    From Blink on location without her bolding wand
    Lol lol Rose

    Look at the file date and the entered date .
    There is a major issue with the clerks file in this case when you have ex parts in camera considerations by the hearing judge.

    I continue to be floored at the liberties enjoyed while restricting another’s. specifically a 4 year old

  46. Rose says:

    Someone (TRuth?) recently asked about Major Crimes Team.
    See unit Appreciation citation,
    Major Crimes Team:
    Krafve, , O’Donnell, Herron (kyron’s assignees)

  47. grasshopper says:

    You might be kidding but probably way too close to the truth. during the RO contest, we had the doc requesting deposition for O’Donnell and Kaine and the county’s motion to quash. this time the docs are all missing except for bunch’s response. I don’t understand the legal language on the first page all that well but it appears the county improperly submitted this motion to judge and wanted a private ruling. Does that mean in chambers with all attorneys or with only DA and judge. will they drink scotch and smoke cigars during the discussion? I don’t understand how this can be a legitimate motion that warrants a hearing without even being acknowledged by the court and filed in the normal manner.

  48. quizzical says:

    Terri competed in track and field in HS as a discus thrower and a shot putter. I highly doubt she was a twig doing such. I would guess she lifted at that time to be competitive. (Kaine was a wide receiver in HS, not unlikely leaning towards the thin side). Terri indicated she was down around 125 lbs. from around 185 lbs. I would think if Terri was on ‘roids she would be at least 20 lbs. heavier and much more built up, especially in the back and lower body. Interpret the following quote as you will. Mine was: “she (Merry) was on steroids, I was not.”

    Also note: Sherry Griswold commented on a couple of the Emerald Cup pictures.

    “That blonde chick, Merry, is 50!!! Yeah, she’s not on ‘roids’…!”

    A couple of Terri’s Facebook comments were interesting too. The first indicated she did have chores to accomplish and she implied she used the truck, Kaine’s truck, to haul cleared blackberries to the dump. In one of his interviews Kaine said she used the truck relatively often, so no surprise to him, at first, she used it on June 4. It was probably already set up to transport both Kyron and Kiara. (I still cannot find the link to the video where Kaine says Terri often used the truck, if it still exists.)

    She could have hired the LS at that time for those projects, although she did not mention it, and she said she was tired, indicating she personally worked on those chores.

    The second quote was in Terri’s Terriology which indicated in June 2009 she was very interested (worried) about getting a teaching job. So, it was not a last second decision to get recertified. My interpretation as to motivation. Wanted to teach. More money for the family. A degree of personal financial independence.

    (Scroll back to given dates)

    Terri Moulton Horman
    September 18, 2009

    “Carpets cleaned. Check. Roof and gutters done. Check. Flower beds and blackberries killed. Check. 2 trips to the dump for said blackberries. Check. Kaine needs to get his ass home. I’m tired. “

    June 17, 2009 at 8:08pm

    Worrying about?
    Getting a teaching job

    It also seems to confirm DeDe’s account about the chore lists when Kaine was traveling.

    There are just like 50 snarkisms that come to mind and are fighting to get out, but I will hold my tongue.

    Except to say if Mr. Blink handed me a chore list he would need to go out of town- quickly.


  49. Venetia says:


    Anyone can trace a link – obtain a TR but then what good is that unless they have a DB to compare it to? The important info that is obtained when comparing tracer routes is just that -comparing. Context.

    Unfortunately, for LE or anyone else tracing older links, they change. That renders the info obtained useless for the most part.

    What is ultimately cruel is finger pointing at those attempting to help. DeDe could vouch for that having also been thrown under the oncoming bus. You want to avoid that at all costs.

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