Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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As of March 2018 (most recent I could find), RS Landscape still listed as business in City of Canby licenses, don’t see any state licenses.
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At some point RS was somehow involved with or in this band, don’t know if any of the band members are him or if he just maybe was manager or something.
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Why are you interested in looking at RS again, Rose? I think he was a nothing burger that LE cooked up. But that’s jmo.
Hello? Anybody home?
Lights are on, but no.
JK, yes. Behind as usual, and some conversion stuff.
B
OT
Terri Vasquez should see a Fake Poster that Squash put on the FB page she admins which disseminates messages to the public from Desiree because a clearer example of defamation, designed to incite, would be hard to find.
Rose, Offense at your link says “Use of Prohib Light Equip.”
April 10, 2019 at 8:47 am
appears to have one Court record https://www.google.com/amp/s/public.courtrecords.org/amp/people/rodolfo%2bsanchez-estrada%2bor/
Squash is spitting poisonous seeds again.
The FB Admin who has served directly & indirectly
as Desiree’s mouthpiece, has accused DeDe of direct
involvement again, confused Blink with cd whom she avows cd is whilst
replicating cd’s 4/10 post, and seems to be highly agitated.
Amidst her 9 yo links, she promises us Terri, DeDe, &
Blink will face charges.
i had not thot about cd’s last 2 paras because I respect her opinions.
But on close reading, there is no way Jose any Reputable Real
attorney (say a McGahn type) would file a wrongful death suit
against Terri on mother’s behalf period.
Opportunists seeking press sound bites & advertising would,
& she has proven to be maleable by opportunists previously. Altho one
wonders about the chicken & egg possibilities in
her “searches” and hate speech vs
Kyron’s everyday mother, Terri.
You might want to stop reading there Rose, lol.
B
@cd. needn’t find a body.
Desiree can have a Court declare
him deceased. Then file a wrongful death.
Which will be a waste of time & $. imo Only an
opportunistic unethical atty would lead her on.
I sincerely hope that someday DY will be able to find out what happened to her son. I just don’t think that the strategy of harassing TH with a lunatic Facebook page is going to get her the information she wants. I believe that the person who runs the Facebook page is more interested in the adulation of her followers than actually finding Kyron. This is not a popularity contest it is about a missing 7 year old boy.
I have noticed there is rarely any speculation on the Facebook page of where Kyron could be if he was not taken by TH. So instead of truly trying to find out what happened to Kyron they are displaying 9 year old pictures of Kyron and agreeing that TH is a rat. I really think DY’s best chance of finding out what happened to Kyron would be the FBI. Its too bad she remains embroiled in plot and plans to get TH.
“You might want to stop reading there Rose, lol.
B ” Yeah, it’s like reading DJT’s Tweets. Sometimes
one just wonders idly what (insert adjective) are up to now.
thanks erose.
@TRuth. Respecting your opinion my looking at RS was no more than switching on my phone from the episodic boring talking head on my phone and back again, but he seemed a good target to “where is he now and what has he done”.
Imo Sanchez will never be a nothing burger and was not the creation of MCSO, who nevertheless behaved opportunistically.
l) For reasons unknown to us he became known to TH and was hired to do outdoor work. Did he insert himself, known on her door as some yardworkers do? Canby is some distance away…was it his usual neighborhood work site?
2) he attacked her in her yard holding her toddler.
3) He “happened” to be in the same restaurant at the same time?
and “happened” to have a conversation about her husband?
(Heh maybe he got sent to her home and to stalk her at her eating site by those Canby lawmen (was it Canby?) she got in trouble on the steroid sellers LE report)
4) he happened to have a MFH story to dish out to MCSO–unsolicited, not created by MCSO–after Kyron disappeared.
5) He followed thru and testified to that story under oath.
6) I don’t think any respectable immigrant, even an illegal one wanting a green card in exchange for “cooperation” would tell a story like that, falsely, to “hang” a housewife which would also have the effect of giving the real kidnapper a pass.
His whole history of interaction with Terri before and after the kidnapping stinks of collusion, and I don’t mean with MCSO.
Heard an interview on ketamine tonight, some DR was opining. Pointed out even a gram is addictive. Anyway,Doctor’s aside throwaway comment on it as a “party” drug was that it was primarily used in the LGBT community and had been particularly destructive to partying gay men. I flashed back to all the Special K ketamine blah blah early in the case.
OT about America. I spent the last week driving back and forth thru CO, mostly NM top to bottom different routes, and TX. No matter where I went crying bcz I’d had sold out tickets to Preet Bharara for 3 months, and I was upset about missing it for this trip but I didn’t meet anyone from any walk of life or education who knew who he was, nor knew what the SoDistrNY was or cared. I came away thinking in our States we are in pockets of cultures where something that matters a lot to one culture does not matter in the least in another part of the US. I bet LE investigative techniques and DA values differ a lot across American States too. I stopped in one town in NM Socorro. Googling shows it big & interesting. All I saw were payday lenders up and down the main street from the Hwy, a down at the heels grocery w/o a bathroom, and on a very prominent and large street corner not another payday lender but the Republican Party hdqtrs. What can I say. I thank goodness for Subway which was the best thing I saw there.
lol
B
from ketamine’s party use especially amongst lgbt and even more so gay men (per the Dr being interviewed on npr) led me to free associate w/the three-ways Spicher informed on (but she declined) allegedly initiated by Kaine.
I guess relevant to the perp pool, if I were interviewing Terri, I’d wonder what type of person Kaine’s solicitation target 3rd party was, because this sounds like a regular thing, not just that he was wildly enamored of the prospect of intercourse with Spicher. She in fact seems an unlikely target because she and Terri were only casual acquaintances, and she and Kaine didn’t seem to know each other really apart from his odd solicitation for her to get Terri’s acquaintances to a restaurant for a birthday. Were casual acquaintances his usual target, or did he ask the neighbors (like that riverboat owner and his adult kids) home? Did he do repeats? I guess I’d ask Terri, how many others over time did Kaine request she bring home to party? Did he expect them to engage with him, her or both? Did he confine himself to females or men as well. I guess a spurned man who had gotten attached to them or him might be a possibility for revenge on something K valued. Anyway, more questions for Terri that I wish MCSO had asked.
Rose says:
April 20, 2019 at 11:15 am
Since at the time Kyron disappeared Kaine had full custody wouldn’t he have to request that Kyron be declared dead? Since Kaine is pretty convinced Kyron is still alive I don’t think he would want to do that
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Desiree and Kaine Horman divorced eight months into her pregnancy with Kyron, with Desiree citing irreconcilable differences.[5] The two had shared custody of Kyron until 2004, when Desiree was diagnosed with kidney failure, which required extensive medical intervention, during which Kaine took over FULL custody; Desiree, however, remained active in Kyron’s upbringing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kyron_Horman
I thot prohib light equipmt was some sort of illegal tractor but it is lights themselves: https://kensun.com/pages/states
prob he had a projecting load over 4’ w/o a red flag on it. I guess most folks violating prob have fake police lights—red or flashing.
O/T though, we have discussed this case here before; re: Corruption and cover-ups
Francke brothers: Judge said Gable innocent
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/425990-332606-francke-brothers-judge-said-gable-innocent-?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PortlandTribune+%28Portland+Tribune%29&utm_content=FeedBurner
(snipped, more @link^):
The brothers of murdered director of the Oregon Correction Department are calling on the Oregon Department of Justice to release his convicted murderer.
Kevin and Patrick Francke released a family statement the day after Oregon U.S. Magistrate Judge John Acosta ruled Frank Gable’s conviction for the 1989 murder of Michael Francke was legally flawed. Acosta ruled Gable must be released within 90 days or retried for the killing — a daunting challenge because many of the witnesses against him have recanted their trial testimony or died.
Gable was convicted of stabbing the corrections director to death after being caught breaking into his car outside the department headquarters. Gable has consistently denied the killing and no physical evidence ties him to the scene. Kevin and Patrick have long charged that Michael was killed by corrupt department employees who feared the then-director was beginning to investigate
The other person who inserted and insisted he had seen Kyron, but was ignored by LE (alleged by him anyway) was Timothy C. Latimer, who had a FB page which we kinda looked at here:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-50/
After reading about the 40 year old Lyon’s sister’s case, again I wonder if LE ever did get in touch with this guy. (It appears his FB page, etc is gone, maybe accessible in the wayback, IDK.) Maybe he is/was just a whacko, but maybe again he was distorting something he really knew about. IDK, but I hope that LE wasn’t, and isn’t still, so fixed on TMH that they did not investigate these whackos one way or another. If in fact LE feels TMH had Kyron abducted, or somehow disappeared him, how does LE not return the calls of ANYONE,and EVERYONE who said they saw Kyron at some point? He could be anywhere. Was there ever a search performed at said area, or at the park he mentions? IF I were Kyron’s mom, when this dude appeared claiming LE wouldn’t return his calls, etc., I’d have been furious with them!
ot isn’t this coach something?
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2019/04/19/prosecutors-seek-180-years-former-iowa-barnstormers-coach-greg-stephen-child-porn-case/3520207002/
Hi Blink. Long time no talky. Hope all is well. Are you going to post anything on the murders of those poor, sweet girls in Delphi? Maybe I missed it. I’m wondering what in the actual F is going on after the last press conference and the newly released sketch which looks nothing like the sketch they released a few months after the murder. Though apparently the newly released sketch was drawn a few days after the murder.
Do they have DNA? It does not appear they do.
Wondering if this is a Holly Bobo type situation. The local sites are naming some seedy characters that were just involved in the torture and murder of another girl. Not the same MO. However, apparently this group has ties to Libby’s grandfather.
I want to see justice so bad for these girls and their families. :.(
Thank you,
Scout
SCOUT!
You had me at : I’m wondering what in the actual F is going on
I am aware of this case peripherally but I have never worked on it professionally or personally. My observation (cursory) is that they DO have DNA of a suspect but they are also working with an actual video of the offender that may differ in appearance. That could be due to the fact that they believe the suspect altered their appearance to avoid detection. Personally, just based on my training and experience- this strikes me as a local person. Where this occurred and where the girls were located requires extensive knowledge of the local area, imo. This family and then le were on the general scene within hours of this crime- which occurs in Feb among bare trees.
Not going to be a popular opinion and I apologize in advance for it because I KNOW this investigative agency and its agency partners is well intentioned and preforming “as trained.” There is nobody that wants to collar this guy more than them, and nobody who will deserve that accomplishment more. I do not say that very often in cases that are going cold as you know.
It is very likely there is case sensitive info they are withholding that they should consider releasing (WITH INTENTION). Every LEO is taught the ole hold back so they can avoid false confessions and know when they are dealing with the actual offender or someone providing information only an offender could have. That is very old school thinking in a dual homicide case I suspect is also a sexually motivated crime. What does the additional recording on her phone show? That intel and its metadata is paramount to this case. I understand why they are so completely reluctant to employ a “release strategy” in a locally high profile case- but what they need to do is seek review/feedback from FBI BAU for that specific purpose.
I SUSPECT that the concern is that they have already seemed to deal with an onslaught of armchair detectives and their social media outreach – resulting in massive amounts of bad leads and false implications. That is going to happen. The trick is to think of the strategy as a channel to develop active priority leads- and design the strategy and follow up accordingly. I say “follow up” as a general term, but I have worked on cases where there was an actual known suspect or presumed suspect that such a plan actually flushed out. They also have to be prepared to preserve the evidence that develops. Seems obvious, right? It may be, but it is entirely foreign to a large group of cops that have never seen, nor will they see again, this type of case and investigative “need”. Someone other than this offender has information that can break this case. I say other than the offender because I promise you- when this perp is arrested there is going to be a laundry list of clues and leads that all of a sudden made sense.
B
bringing this forward “ Theresa Merriman says:
July 3, 2015 at 7:28 am
Who is Tim Latimer from Milwaukie Oregon? He has a facebook profile and posted this message in Jan 2014- “It was a long time ago, but I think it was in the afternoon. You see, this situation was very peculiar to me. I had moved in to live at my moms home in the TIMBERLINE RIM neighborhood because I had been laid off three jobs due to the economic troubles we were having at the time. So I had been walking around a circle or figure 8 of streets every day. The SPIRIT OF GOD has whispered to me to try to always take note because there were bad people living around there. I had had run ins with some unfavorable neighbors living there too. It was a great place for doing drugs because there were not many cops around and since it was in the forest, it was easy to hide. Anyways, the day I saw KYRON and his fellow classmate in the TIMBERLINE RIM park I stood back and noticed that I had not seen them before. I say KYRON was wearing a black t-shirt with green lettering. I asked him what it said and he said it was ‘CSI’. I thought to myself I should take a picture of them. I held my older camera phone up to take a photograph but then thought to myself that I had better not becaue I may get in trouble for being a pedophile. I didn’t want to disturb my neighbors living around there. So I decided not to take the picture. Kyron and his friend told me their names and where they were from. They told me SKYLINE elementary but I had never heard of it before. So I didn’t know what to think. For some reason I felt like it was a special monent in time but I didnt’ know why. So I took note in my mind the looks of them. I didn’t know why I should at the time. KYRON was real mellow. He acted wise and not so childish. His friend was taller and was wearing a red t-shirt. His friend had dark hair that was short. This still bothers me that I wish I had tried to do something more after the fact’” I hope that the police talked to him at some point.
Bizarre.
B”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-229/
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lived in a variety of places incl ID, UT, Boston. but more recently Welches Portland Milwaukie
looks like he was early 40s & married then. Written like he was enjoying some mj at the time he wrote it (kinda spacey) He certainly should’ve been interviewed.
Timberline Rim is in Rhododendron OR,
listed among places he lived. One assumes
Houze’s PI checked him out?
TimRim is a great looking area near Mt Hood,
Rhododendron is also close to Welches.
At least Latimer was accurate tying his living locations to his story.
3 searches for kyron in 2017, & not for several yrs before. what changed?
https://pmru.org/press-room/mission-summaries
2nd grnd jury was ending. Then second grand jury dismissed.
B
3/11 physical search on grounds of skyline school https://pmru.org/press-room/mission-summaries-2010-2012
who they searched for in 4/11 at rocky butte https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2011/07/parrish_bennette_jr_gives_up_l.html
ot How murderer in case above shows his remorse & spends his time: https://writeaprisoner.com/inmates/parrish-bennette-18130634/penpal
Rod Underhill chose not to try a slam dunk case w/a
mandatory 25 yrs & gave him only 18 w/a manslaughter
plea, credit for time served. out in his early 30s.
Quinn today https://www.instagram.com/quinnmmk/
all I remember about his father was he had a large
collection of Portland Zoo Electric Band posters,
a group around which drug use flourished allegedly.
And I felt sorry for him when Young moved Quinn to Medford
in 11th grade.
ot
idk why OR DAs worry about this bill “reforming” the trial venue & sentencing mandates for juveniles who murder like the unremirseful guy I posted above, because DAs like Underhill apparently avoided the 25 yr mandatory minimum for murder & adult court trials by dropping charges to manslaughter anyway.
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/04/23/26368889/oregon-district-attorneys-association-uses-misleading-report-to-stop-criminal-justice-reform
However the struggle for the Gov to pass it in the OR House hints at why expoliceman & longtime Chair Barker was ousted by theGov, & her Public Safety advisor was bought off apparently w/a Mult Cty judgeship for which she was least qualified in practice.
funny earlier on that prmu site identified the location they searched for Kyron but in July & Oct 2017 it merely said Portland.
this was pmru’s collaborative search on 7/9/17, though they seached again later that july.
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/07/searchers_in_west_hills_for_re.html
odd an elite team is characterized by mcso as “other volunteers.”
I’m sure you have read about this case. This little one could have and should have had a better and longer life. When will the agencies tasked with protecting the young and vulnerable be held accountable.
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She criticized the role of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, which initially took custody of AJ after he was born with opiates in his system but then returned the boy to his mother.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/prosecutors-parents-of-aj-freund-put-him-in-cold-shower-beat-him-to-death/ar-BBWfmq3?li=BBnbcA1
where are they now?
Here’s one.
https://m.facebook.com/tanner.pumala
Hadn’t realized he was a few years older than Kyron.
sister Ann is back up North, now Longview WA
Looking for Fuhrer (I know she moved) I ended up at Kaine’s address on Sheltered Nook which also listed as resident a couple who’d originally lived there & subdivided lots. All the occupations for all the street residents were listed. iirc all could be characterized as “blue collar,” & many bldg trades. It surprised me Kaine not only marries “down” socioeducationally from his work peer group but chose a blue collar neighborhood, at least that street.
Hmmm, I had a post or two disappear. Will try to relink.
Thinking back I guess it was just this one that disappeared. We had talked about this case here before when we were discussing corruption and cover-ups.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/425990-332606-francke-brothers-judge-said-gable-innocent-
The brothers of murdered director of the Oregon Correction Department are calling on the Oregon Department of Justice to release his convicted murderer.
Kevin and Patrick Francke released a family statement the day after Oregon U.S. Magistrate Judge John Acosta ruled Frank Gable’s conviction for the 1989 murder of Michael Francke was legally flawed. Acosta ruled Gable must be released within 90 days or retried for the killing — a daunting challenge because many of the witnesses against him have recanted their trial testimony or died.
(snipped, more @link)
Says it’s in moderation again, so hopefully it won’t just up and leave again.
T Ruth They only want TMH so I am not surprised .How come the bios are the only ones who can request the FBI ?.
They can request a meeting with them, and they can request they take the case, but MCSO has to request the FBI take jurisdiction. Without that, the FBI has no “interest” in this case past the minor assistance they provided early on. In fact, I would say that the FBI and MCSO do not agree on the theory nor approach MCSO has taken so I doubt highly either KH nor DY would make a request anyway.
B
Putting a good face on DY moving her son Q from his Portland rearing family to Medford between 11 & 12 which meant a loss of
—peer sch group since K
—track team Sr leadership
—college counseling w/those educators who knew him
—Sr prom & events w/class, which I just saw as …
It does make sense to screw his developmental track only if DY really
saw him in jeopardy of his life like Kyron
in his home school & neighborhood despite his father & peer group embed.
That could mean: she saw Terri as so vile
Terri would & could go & successfully off her other kid if she had
access. That’s pretty psychotic reasoning.
OR she feared someone from her past or penumbra
was targeting her kids’ for death. That’s extreme too.
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the longer there’s no boy followup kidnapping,
the more this looks targeted.
OT Riddell still out there working hard:
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/04/anonymous-vandals-flood-garden-hose-into-office-of-portland-lawyer-who-represents-ice-employees.html
No comments in over a week. Poor Kyron is never going to be found…
My apologies y’all. Private gal dealing with some health issues that will have me laid up a bit so the good news is I won’t fall behind.
B
Riddell again https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/05/second-lawsuit-accuses-terry-bean-oregon-political-influencer-of-sex-abuse.html
where are they now, cont’d
http://www.beavertoncivictheatre.org/school-house-rock-cast-page.html
another
born 1968. had moved to Vancouver
as so many have, ie the Skyline SPED
teacher w/the Running Club.
https://www.mylife.com/jason-wishert/e601996297698
April 2019 uninformative obit. Same? http://mobileobits.oregonlive.com/obituaries/oregon/obituary.aspx?n=jason-wishert&pid=192637129&referrer=0&preview=false
ot https://s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/02192026/Sean-J.-Riddell-Statement-May-2-2019.pdf
watchfully waiting for a sign of life.
Best wishes implied.
Normal Sinus rhythm boss. Thanks for the patience
B
I am feeling like the TamikosMom of BOC,
but at least B has enough sense to cease publishing
a lone apparently loonie tune.
Looked at ScaredMonkeys for the 1st time in a few yrs.
Tamikos been saying at least since early 2018 there’s a
secret indictmeny, Spicher took a plea bargain for
testifying against Terri, & Desiree’s big pop will be
the secret indictment being acted on. Whew!
Good thing she’s not in the know.
Apologies. Oye. that is some seriously bad intel. Unfortunately many times in public forums that also allow anonymity to a degree, people just say any old thing- and it has become more of an investment in being right in one’s conclusion than the importance of the truth- most especially if believing it means one was wrong for many years. While these folks are theory peddling- a little boy is no closer to being found. Frosts my chaps I tell ya. If I wore chaps, which I do not.
Miss ATG.
B
“ resulting in massive amounts of bad leads and false implications” reminds me of Kyron but in this case not armchair detectives but followers of bios mostly. Said to be 42,000 “tips” in Delphi case. But Kyron’s parents & the likes of Soldier want more more more called in to mcso. Way to bury the investigators in trivia.
Wow, Rose, if that is JWW, waay too young to pass away. I see that his construction license expired in 2016, and he last wrote on his twitter account that same year. Sounds like he was retiring (at 49?), wonder if he got ill with something like cancer.
https://twitter.com/jasonwishert?lang=en
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All the more reason LE needs to release something more on this child’s case! Before everyone and anyone who could provide input is long gone! We are less than a month away from 9 years missing, gone without a trace. Sad.
@Rose says:
April 22, 2019 at 10:43 pm
I was looking the other day at RSE’s original ad that was on Service Magic, where it was reported TMH “found him”. And IIRC there was one other landscaper who she had contacted at some point. The reviews of his work were in the Portland area. Canby – Lake Oswego covers a lot of ground. At one point, there was a rumor that it was a friend of Kaine’s who recommended him to Terri, probably just a rumor. However, one thing I saw on that site that I hadn’t noticed before was this:
Free Estimates
Credit Cards Accepted
Bilingual
If the dude was truly bilingual, why did he have a translator at the deposition? To explain legaleeze, maybe? IDK
I just have a feeling that out of fear, because Terri brought him up to LE, he made up stuff and MCSO most likely threatened him with something as well if he did not cooperate with the sting, etc.
So you think his story is true? You think Terri asked him out to lunch in a public restaurant and asked him to “take out” her husband with a plan to make it look like a mugging?
I believe she solicited estimates from one of those online services (that attaches to corresponding companies locally, etc) and chose RSE. Yes, I believe she did lunch with him, Kiara in tow, and no, I do not believe for a second she ever asked RSE to “off” her husband. I think she was trying to dissuade his affection and not come off as a bitch. Or, I think she enjoyed attention from him or both.
B