Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
I have been covering this case since Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School in June, 2010. Like most missing persons cases I have covered in the past, I am of the strong opinion that best efforts at the truth are the only way to propel investigations that, similarly to Kyron’s, have gone cold for one reason or another. This approach has worked in resolving some of my previous cases. I am proud of that. I remain steadfast to the integrity involved in those and future cases.
Over the past 10 months (or so) I have been developing an updated series on Kyron’s case to include my multiple interviews with Kyron’s step-mom, Terri Horman. Needless to say as she was the subject of at least three simultaneous cases before an Oregon court and remains a person of interest by the agency investigating her sons disappearance, this has been an arduous and sometimes delicate journey. Ms. Horman’s experiences during the ongoing investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman are critically important to propelling his case and with great hope- finding the truth about what happened to this cherubic and innocent child. There are dozens of sources, collateral interviews, forensic experts and legal analysts that also contribute to my series and have done so because of their belief that my motivation is to bring to light information and opinions in such a way that would almost “require” a focused review of Kyron’s case and the likely shaking of that proverbial tree everyone talks about.
Set to publish about 6-ish weeks ago I was asked to postpone the first installment of the series, which I did. I subsequently learned Ms. Horman was participating in the Dr. Phil program after she completed taping. Dr. Phils producers were well aware that Ms. Horman had interviewed with me extensively, and anticipated my series would be publishing information that was not known to the public previously in the days prior to her scheduled episode. When Ms. Horman conveyed to me that she feels obligated to speak out about “her son” in any national medium that will have her, I most certainly respected that. I still do.
While Dr. Phil seems like a gregarious fellow for sure, I have zero interest in being associated with his program, nor do I believe his shows content is designed to do any furtherance of investigation or truth. There is much concern (although I have no affiliation to the show whatsoever) that the timing of the publication of my series on the Kyron Horman matter might be interpreted differently or inadvertently contribute to the programs content or audience reactions. Not what I signed on for. A missing 7 year old boy six years running is not a framework for entertaining a target audience. He is not fodder for online social media bully campaigns- yet it occurs.
I will be publishing my series on Kyron’s case at a later date, in it’s entirety with no editing adjustments as a result of any of the appearances on Dr. Phil. I appreciate your patience and your understanding. Feel free to discuss the show below.
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here ya go TRuth.
http://www.ode.state.or.us/teachlearn/pte/cte_updateswindworkshop.pdf
Kidwind holding a oneday workshop for MS teachers at Skyline 7/12/10 for educators from OR/WA. credits kidwind, Bonneville Ed Fdtn, & Or Energy Trust.
So it’s a respectable inference, since these workshop fliers went out likely in Spring, by 6/4/10 the switch had been made by BEF from solar to wind & kidwind had already been involved in project mgmt.
perhaps taught in part by this visiting educator:
aug 2010 OMS&I kidwind, leuth
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=37261
lueth, pic of kidwind in portland summer 2010
http://www.ktufsd.org/Page/6989
And to my previous comment, I want to be clear that I’m not insinuating that TMH was drugging sweet Kyron.
@atg. “A Texas Grandfather says:
October 1, 2016 at 9:58 pm”
I don’t think BEF spent much on these school installations. It relied on many funding partners, OR Energy Trust, Portland Electric, BEF was kinda more a Bonneville “branding” business and doing so with others’ money and donations imo. The “installation” at Skyline had to be low demand wrt Skyline’s existing electrical box and wiring. A few solar panels on the roof coukdn’t be absorbed into Skyline’s infrastructure and had to set aside for that reason. Imo this work is done by energy cos like Bonneville Power and by nonprofits like Kidwind for educational purposes. It seems a kind of preevangelism to ensure acceptance of wind turbines as desireable by future energy consuming voters imo.
To set the record straight, I’m not accusing anyone who may or may not have been involved in Kyron’s disappearance belongs to any group, employer or whatever. Could be just some ff’d up dude like Adan Brown.
What I AM asking is: have we looked at everyone who was involved in and around that school between September 2009 and June 4 2010? For instance, IIRC, the seismically review was done around those date, so were the historical value assessments done. Sounds to me like those school doors and halls were so darn open, it would be almost impossible to to find a perp unless there was DNA, and of course, a body, and/or some other reason to believe there was a crime committed.
That being said, I still wonder if it is at all possible that Kyron wandered into the tall grass and was snatched up big time by a female bear trying to feed her cubs. (Crazy? Maybe but stranger things have happened, not to mention the time of year would be about right.)
What I can say with certainty is to my knowledge, the only evidence to refute that possibility was through search teams clearing the area. People jest, but I always remind myself of the hungry Dingo in any mp case.
B
that Lauren, whose quote about Desiree Soldier crossposted from Dr Phil puzzled me. She was in the Portland region she said, only a year or two. She would’ve lived in military housing. And her social circle where she says everyone was talking about Kyron would have been other Army military intelligence wives. I suggested her maj husband was probably at Ft Lewis WA because it seems that’s a major military intelligence base. Then I remembered Neil spent his career in mil intell in WA, and after retirement remained active in Army reserves. His wife cofounded the family support group program for wives at Ft Lewis in the 80s:
p 6. https://static.dvidshub.net/media/pubs/pdf_26334.pdf
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I don’t think this lends creedance to Lauren’s claim (actually I forget the Dr Phil poster’s name Soldier quoted).
But the Hormans had decades of roots in Army Mil Intell in WA State, so I imagine this abduction was a matter for chatter, at least among the wives
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Imo Soldier and her FB associates do share the antisocial language and behavior one might find in a user subculture
You’d think Sheriff R woukld be giving personal print interviews to the 4 papers in portland outlining the changes and achievements since taking office, highlighting improved morale. Instead all 4 papers have had a functional news blackout on his leadership. The only print article relating to the Office is here:
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2016/09/29/18598527/developerhorse-cop-booster-bob-ball-is-now-defending-elected-sheriffs
The problem with solar panels is that they produce DC current requiring equipment to convert it to AC for normal equipment, although a separate box and power line could have fed the DC to classrooms where computers were in use.
Wind powered generators are normally AC that would require step-down transformers to match the voltage being fed to the school. That voltage may arrive at 480 volts with transformers being used to reduce the voltage to 220/240 and 120 for lighting and convenience circuits.
The introduction of this equipment to the school would certainly have brought new people to the school. While the building wiring could have been accomplished by PPS maintenance people, the tower and generator construction would not likely fit the skills of regular school electricians. In addition, this is union country where work rules set the exact things the craftsmen are allowed to do.
It appears to me that during this time period there were a large number of outside people on and in the school property that were not parents. Quality craftsmen can walk through a building a time or two and learn where everything is located.
@Rose says:
October 2, 2016 at 1:09 am
Thanks a lot for finding that, I knew I’d read that there was something going on in 2010 regarding that Turbine. I remember looking at the names of the people who used to be involved Solar4schools as well. All that has disappeared the way of the DAD thread. It isn’t even in Google cache, which is really odd. I could be wrong, but I’m thinking I read in some PPS or Skyline document that the turbine was initially supposed to be done in the fall of 2010, not 2011, which always made me wonder why it was postponed. The hole they have to dig for that Turbine is very deep, and I always wondered just when did the actual work begin on that unit? I would assume they’d have to find a suitable location on the grounds somewhere to put it well ahead of time. Where exactly was it put on the property anyway? That post from “Troll” was strange.
http://www.schoolwires.com/privacy
http://www.pps.net/Page/138
Is this the server (I’m not sure if I’m using the right term there), that all schools or most schools use? (I see it is used on Rose’s link to Mr. Leuth in NY school as well.) Is this also used for something like log-in information that Skyline apparently purged? If so, wouldn’t these people still have said information?
I don’t know how this all works, obviously.
general background on what was transpiring at Skyline and in Portland energy-wiss.
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/51180.pdf
p 15, 2.1 Kidwind.
You’ll see reference to 6 Senators in a program year.
These are frontline teachers trained and tasked to teach fellow teachers wrt implementing wind/energy curriculum.
Lueth was one of those back in 2010.
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OT ATG, you are a font of knowledge re Skyline and infrastructure.
TY as well re computer advice. After hours submerged in specs yrs ago,
I figured it was the preloaded software & gave up. You give me heart
hardware is fine and to try again. Not just yet tho; I still have purchase ptsd.
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@ mbs. notably Skyline’s post-Keefer principal was plucked from a
frontline counselor job.
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I just noticed The Volunteer WITH the Family who has had an mcso flyer with truck, Teri et al pics on top of her feed for awhile has varied where the tips go to without clarification it is not LE. In fact she refers to the recipient as “they,” as tho it’s an agency. But previously thatemail has been identified by her as Davidson’s. I think it’s admirable for Davidsons to get all the tips they can. Go for it. But there should be disclosure and transparency from them as the email addy owner that tips are not going to LE but to themselves for whatever purpose. And if soldier is a volunteer with the family, imo they can direct that disclosure on her headline mcso flier replication.
ot bernstein – Bundy has out a welldone elaborate detailed
set of interview vignettes of trial attendees. I wish she
multitasked and covered the new Sheriff seeking office
and what changes he has brought to and envisions
for mcso other than the 3 endorsing commissioners 3 social service
enterprises. Imo that is far more important in her
subject area of crime and courts to Mult County than the
lawless Bundys trashing federal property across the State.
ATG’s post reminded me one commonality with JBRamsey might have been her assaulter perhaps worked in the house in renovations and knew its layout and physical structure. In the beginning of this caseBlink posited it was a workman-laborer.
T. Ruth says:
October 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Titch:
Just an observation, looking from a different angle, also trying to be thorough… If Tanner’s recollection of Kyron leaving to go downstairs to see a “cool electric project”
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I don’t know if this matters but If you listen to this youtube of Tanner says the he (Tanner) went downstairs not Kyron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAZ1FmHtcI
at 0:30/2:35
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Still no mention of Kyron going downstairs
-snip
Tanner Pumala, Kyron’s classmate, said he last saw his friend at about the same time when Kyron told him he was headed to look at another student’s science project.
“He walked by the hallway and I’m like, ‘Hi, Kyron,’ and he’s like, ‘Hi. I’m going to go see this cool one. It’s electric.’ I’m like, ‘Alright, bye.’ And that’s the last time I saw him,” Tanner said. “He never did make it back to class.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14789387/classmate-i-hope-my-best-friend-comes-back-6-09-2010?clienttype=printable
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Do we know that the Electric exhibit that was cool was downstairs.
Yes. It was in Mathews room.
B
http://taylorhooton.org/oregon-cops-using-steriods-and-carrying-guns-a-dangerous-combination/
5/3/10
“In a letter submitted to a Clackamas County judge Monday, FBI Special Agent Christopher Frazier said that Traverso has discussed his drug distribution activities in detail. “The public safety employees identified by Traverso included law enforcement officers, corrections officers, fire and rescue personnel and university public safety officers,” Frazier wrote, “Several spin-off FBI public corruption investigations were initiated as a result of these allegations, and are ongoing.”
http://taylorhooton.org His deceased 17 yo HS baseball player’s story is on the 2017 Gala page.
Within the Portland FBI Field Office, or the Mult DA, nothing ever became of these ***public corruption investigations ***
of public employees. the FBI/MCDA resources were diverted less than a month later.
“corrections officers” are Sheriff Dept employees in either County.
Wonder why Cogen’s Commissioners didn’t follow this scandal up with hearings on this Countywide employee problem? (altho Cogen himself was probably under FBI public corruption investigation and got a pass.)
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HS track coach in Clackamus
A local might ask his position on steroids at a public campaign event . .
https://multco.us/ds4/eric-zimmerman
“…volunteer Eric has worked on small projects for Oregon Impact, the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, and the North Clackamas School District. …”
which makes me wonder about mcso nonSAR volunteers in 2009-2010. must’ve been some. Any on the payroll of a County Comm like Zimmerman? iirc his boss McKeel served Staton’s Gresham residential area?
OT NJ does it right
http://www.nj.com/sussex-county/index.ssf/2015/07/authorities_investigating_alleged_steroid_use_by_s.html
Unlike MCDA, when steroid usage by sheriff employees was alleged in NJ, the DA referred the potential cases out to a diferent County’s DA to assess.
It only took one needle for that DA to make a conspiracy steroid use charge: and take a plea into a diversion program:
http://www.nj.com/sussex-county/index.ssf/2016/04/sussex_sheriffs_officer_gets_pti_for_steroids_resi.html
Now that Morris DA inspires trust in NJ Sheriff Depts.
I wonder if SZ was in or near Porter’s room door and saw Teri leave?
Perhaps when Teri and K went to see Mr MacBeth they heard
about the cool electric one next door? Perhaps SZ was downstairs when K and Teri
came by originally. Perhaps K announced to whoever he checked in with inside
Porter’s room he was going to see it.
if I were a Sheriff’s Corrections deputy in Clackamus or Mult on 5/3/10, knew I’d bought steroids from Traverso as had some associates, I might ask a criminal element I’d met formerly or currently incarcerated to arrange a diversion of FBI resources to find a young child kidnapped from a public school. So one would consider those on Traverso’s list of public employees familiar with the Skyline area. But the hiree/actor might not be familiar with that area.
Trying to understand this sequence of events. When TH and Kyron were downstairs did they somehow part ways down there? because, if I have it right, they chose to come up different stairways. Kyron was near his classroom and TH near the exit. So, did Kyron wait for TH to leave and then go right back down the stairs to Matthews room?
That has not been released, but I will be in my piece.
B
E. Matthews taught K-1, room 109. Why would such a “cool” project be located in a kindergarten or first grader’s class? So cool it would pique the interest of an older child? I’m not sure how sophisticated and cool a 1st grader’s electrical project could be. This makes me wonder if Kyron’s stop in Matthews class was not where he originally was heading. Perhaps he just short-stopped there, but it was not his destination. Is it possible he helped this person who asked for his help, but then continued on to a “really cool” electrical project he’d been told about located elsewhere, say the basement, or the library or the gym or in one of the older kid’s classrooms?
Would be nice to know what the kids would agree was the coolest electrical project there that day and where it was located.
According to the map, Mathews class is in what’s considered the basement. Am I looking at this correctly, Kyron would have gone down the stairwell that would put him basically right next to EM’s class, so he could have just stopped there, but been on his way to the gym. Do you get to the gym down that hallway? Weren’t the older kid’s projects set up in the gym that day? TK said he saw Kyron sans Terri in the gym that day. Was it possibly after he helped whomever it was carry something in? TK was told by LE specially not to reveal what time he saw him. Why?
http://realitychatter.forumotions.net/t2560p150-kyron-horman-missing-6-4-10-2
A link to the school map ^^.
I was looking at it wrong, the gym looks like you access it only from the second floor, and the cafeteria is in the basement. So the talent show was also held in the gym, second floor?
I hope Blink comes out with a map that is more clear and shows which teacher was assigned to which room and what the heck is in all those other rooms on the basement level? If Kyron went outside to help someone, isn’t it possible he went back outside and then went into the gym from one of the outside doors?
O/T
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/10/testing_of_oregons_once-shelve.html
(snipped, more @link)
The grant is expected to cover the testing of about 2,600 kits from the three counties. Of the total, 1,428 have been sent to the Sorenson Forensics lab, based in Salt Lake City. About a third of those have been tested.
In some cases, the tests found only DNA from alleged victims and no DNA from possible suspects, or the DNA sample was of such poor quality that no suspect could be identified.
But lab technicians have found quality, foreign DNA samples in 164 kits. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the foreign DNA belongs to a suspect — it could, for example, belong to someone that a victim had consensual sex with before being attacked.
Oregon officials are reviewing the 164 cases to decide whether to enter the DNA into local and national databases for a match. The databases consist of DNA from defendants convicted of crimes — or in some cases, people who’ve been arrested.
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Why on earth, what would be any reason for NOT entering the DNA into CODIS?
It depends on the circumstances but in general, absolutely must be.
B
T. Ruth
You are correct about the deep foundation for a wind turbine tower. The big ones that produce 5 megawatts of wind power are close to 300 ft. in height with a foundation slab eight feet thick. This small tower would require between four and six feet of foundation that would be below grade at its top. The blades on the small tower may be 30 feet in length while the large wind turbine blades are one hundred feet or more.
I have seen the big blades being trucked through our area on the way to the big wind farms near Big Spring, Texas. They require an extension trailer connected to the main trailer via a long pipe shaft on the order of what logging trailers use.
I have always thought the person who took Kyron was someone who knew the building layout by either being a regular maintenance person or was a contract maintenance or construction person who hid himself in plain site due to the lack of proper procedures for security by the school administration.
@TRuth. I trust Blink or others will correct me if my memory errs on dates & ages.
K was 7 on 6/4/10, finishing 2nd grade. His 8th birthway would be 9/9/10.
That means he began 2nd grade as a 6yo, however briefly, and I
imagine by 6/4 the 3rd graders, rising to 4th, hulked over him in size and maturity.
Whatever custodial Dad thought about his smarts, I bet it was rather comforting
to him socially, and a rest mentally–certainly from Porter’s behavioral judgment,
to go downstairs and hang out in either Mathews’ or MacBeth’s room with other
7 yos that Spring. I think a rising 3rd grade 7 yo would’ve enjoyed a K/1 project with some age peers
and would’ve felt smart–which is different from being smart. One can be smart and not feel it.
CD
I think your question about the age of the child who displayed the “Cool Electric One” is spot on. I don’t know what the rules were for parent participation in a project. Sometimes parents get a little too involved by building something that a child could not do. The electric project IMO could stretch the ability of some eighth students.
Based on what I have witnessed by by grandchildren and great-grandchildren, it is doubtful that anything other than plug-in lighting could be accomplished without adult help.
O/T to Rose
My whole intent in giving you my take on the computer was for you to be encouraged to try again. I could have written a lot more technical stuff, but decided to stop and let you digest that.
The key file after the boot loader gets things going is the Registry file that lists all the other files and activities that are to be loaded. It is a text file that acts as a system control file. It can be examined and modified to eliminate programs from running or change how things are ordered. This is an essential file for windows-all versions.
I will review my David Karp book on Windows 7 Annoyances for some ideas. This computer that I am typing this post is running a 64 bit version of Windows 7. The same as you HP all-in-one. Therefore, I can look a some things that might help. Once I get a look at my registry file, there will be some things that will be exactly as yours and some similar because of additions the mfg. has added. Caution, playing with the control file must be done with care so that things being changed do not have an adverse effect on the machine’s operation.
The next important thing is what is your internet connection? If it is a copper land line via a MODEM it will be limited to about 54kbs. If a cable connection via fiber optic it will be much faster. A DSL (digital subscriber line) is 1.544Mbs if you have it all to yourself-it is copper and normally is an extra charge over a regular telephone line. The distance from the Telco switch is one of the limitations of its speed.
Rose says:
October 4, 2016 at 6:57 pm
@TRuth. I trust Blink or others will correct me if my memory errs on dates & ages.
K was 7 on 6/4/10, finishing 2nd grade. His 8th birthway would be 9/9/10.
That means he began 2nd grade as a 6yo, however briefly, and I
imagine by 6/4 the 3rd graders, rising to 4th, hulked over him in size and maturity.
Whatever custodial Dad thought about his smarts, I bet it was rather comforting to him socially, and a rest mentally–certainly from Porter’s behavioral judgment, to go downstairs and hang out in either Mathews’ or MacBeth’s room with other 7 yos that Spring. I think a rising 3rd grade 7 yo would’ve enjoyed a K/1 project with some age peers
and would’ve felt smart–which is different from being smart. One can be smart and not feel it.
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@rose – I totally agree with your thinking.
Reese dropped in on WW to politic on behalf of the continued election of Sheriffs, a fall ballot measure, but didn’t go into his own candidacy and his place on the ballot.
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/10/05/new-multnomah-county-sheriff-mike-reese-doesnt-want-to-be-the-last-elected-sheriff/
Must’ve been a surprise visit bcz Jacquiss had no Qs ready about Reese’s actions to date while in that office other than what do you drive?
Reese for his part promises FUTURE transparency.
You’d think Jacquiss coukd’ve ginned up some question about his current job performance:
–have you reorganized the dept since Staton’s 2016 reorganization was put on the mcso website?
–are supervisory personnel still in the job assignments that online mcso personnel chart reflects?
–Staton created substantially more supervisory promotional positions which incur higher personnel costs fir the budget: Commanders, Deputy Chiefs, Capts, and Lts. will you continue these pay-inflated job titles Staton developed in his second term, or revert to the grade structure and organization existing in Staton’s first term?
–What is your understanding from the Corrections Union Pres as to why no Union endorsement?
–What is the status of the K Horman investigation?
–Are you taking steps to increase the depth of experience in the Investigations team perhaps by recruiting retired detectives from seasoned police depts?
–You’ve mentioned to the press work you plan to tackle in the social service area such as homelessness. What do you plan to contribute to the public safety and law enforcement challenges in Portland, ie Crime rate reduction; human trafficking; drug sales and useage–meth, heroin, steroids; illegal aliens with criminal charges; etc?
–In the past, the promotional track from River Patrol has been Investigations. Do you plan to offer other possibilities?
–What’s tge status of the Fairview merger?
This is off the top of my head. Jacquiss had no detail Qs except about the Charger’s fate. They must be old friends.
o/t: About time. Rumor from a friend this was an issue the McStay defense attorneys wanted in place.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-prosecutor-misconduct-20161003-snap-story.html
B
@ T.Ruth,
Yes, the gym is on the “second” floor which is also the main floor where the buses release children through double doors at the east end. The cafeteria is below on the “first floor/basement” and is also where they hold the daycare before and after school.
In the Phil episode, TMH indicated that they had just come from McBeth’s room, which believe was 104. Did TMH and Kyron not tour all the rooms when they were down on that level? IOW, had they already toured Matthews classroom together? If not, why not?
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-4/
2008/9 room numbers, guessing the same teacher in the same room as 2009/10? ^^
VW: Porter was no longer at the school when Kyron was discovered missing.
I posted links to the maps of the doors and classrooms. K-1 is not in the basement. CR109 is the room Kyron left with SZ.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-4/
Blink, TMH stated on Phil that Keefer, Porter & Hall were all there at the school when she and KH got there. So, was your earlier source incorrect here?
Yes, that information was updated through TMH and another source.
B
@quizzical says:
August 10, 2013 at 2:37 pm
The following are teacher classroom assignments at Skyline for 104, 109, and 110 for the associated years. I assume these classrooms correspond to “basement” rooms CLR104, CLR109, and CLR110. In 2008-2009 Matthews was in 109 and Cole was in 110. I am going to assume this was the same in 2009-2010. I would love to confirm this with the 2009-2010 handbook, but I have yet to find a link. Someone somewhere must have this information.
What is interesting is by 2010-2011 Mathews and Cole had switched classrooms according to the published handbook. Usually teachers are not all that happy about changing classrooms. If changes are made it is often to better group similar grade classrooms. Note McBeth stayed in 104 when he taught 4/5 in 2011-2012. Could it be the switch was done due to the incident described my Blink in this article, as a “comfort” to Ms. Mathews.
Also of note. When Ms. Mathews left, retired?, Ms. Porter switched to K/1 and moved to Mathews’ 110.
2003-2004
104 – K – Ms. Easter Mathews
109 – 1 – Ms. Cynthia Bowie
110 – 1/2 – Ms. Linda Cole
2008-2009
104 – K/1 – Mr. Scott McBeth
109 – K/1 – Ms. Easter Mathews
110 – K/1 – Mrs. Linda Cole
2010-2011
104 – K/1 – Mr. Scott McBeth
109 – K/1 – Mrs. Linda Cole
110 – K/1 – Ms. Easter Mathews
2011-2012
104 – 4/5– Mr. Scott McBeth
109 – K/1 – Mrs. Linda Cole
110 – K/1 – Ms. Easter Mathews
2012-2013
104 – K/1 – Mr. Scott McBeth
109 – K/1 – Mrs. Linda Cole
110 – K/1 – Ms. Kristina Porter
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-5/#comments
Have you are has anyone else ever found a copy of the 2009-10 Skyline Handbook to confirm room numbers for the teachers? Why did these teachers change rooms so often? Seems kinda’ odd, since they’re not changing grade levels (with the exception of Porter, in 2012). I too would like to see 09/10 room assignments confirmed.
I see here we were still discussing folks with the solar programs, before Troll made his/her post that I referred to the other day. Maybe this post ruffled some feathers. ??
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-4/
@TRuth. iirc Teri said she took Kyron to see his former teacher MacBeth.
I don’t think Teri & Kyron took a basement rooms “tour.” Why not? The first bell had rung.
After his classroom pic, library book return, and MacBeth, imo they were out of time.
Taking him to see MacBeth was nurturing. Additionally, in her shoes I’d privately whisper
to him if the opportunity presented K had a dr visit in a week she’d love some feedback for
beforehand. (to check behavioral consistency from teacher to teacher)
Mages gives a nice answer to R Tarver’s comment in the O search location article this last month on that pg you posted TRuth.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-4/
Mags says:
“August 9, 2013 at 11:04 am
I believe that many people are under the impression that the only way Ky, or another child, would leave with a stranger is unwillingly and only if taken by force. That the family believes this is evident in early statements that he would never go with a stranger, implying (or stating?) that this is due to his shy temperament. The recent Florida case of Charish Perriwinkle is a perfect example of this wrong thinking: the perp befriended the family at Wal-Mart, took the girl away from her family to the front of the store for a snack (everyone’s cooperative at this point) and just kept walking. Because the population believes that Ky would not go with s stranger, they assume / have to believe that SZ was known to TH and thus Ky.
Picture this: a man who looks like all the other dads in dress and appearance, or other “former students,” slides up to a boy and begins talking about the cool projects, they exchange names, make small talk. The man says that he has some stuff in the car and would the boy be willing to help him … creating a feeling that the boy is being honored by being asked. The boy, now excited at the chance to do something special asks a teacher for permission. The teacher looks at the eager boy and the man, who looks like the dad of one of the students in general or is maybe even confused with a particular dad, and grants permission. Her guard is down due to the nature of the event and the community feeling of everyone there. Even the witnesses are not on guard. I am not excusing the teacher or blaming the witness. I am simply saying that nobody recognized the situation because it seemed so normal, and I believe this is one reason that Blink says SZ is a sophisticated offender.
@T. Ruth says:
October 5, 2016 at 3:34 pm
I have not found a handbook staff directory for 2009-2010. In fact, links I used for 2008-2009 and 2010-2011 no longer work. Fortunately I took the time to save the documents long ago. This has been asked before, has TMH retained a copy of the staff directory from 2009-2010 and/or has Blink been able to obtain one?
I took some time to put together a slightly cleaned up school layout plus staff information into one image. Also, included are some places where I understand Kyron (K), and TMH and Ki (T-ki) were at in the school that morning.
School Layout With Staff Information
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/Skyline%20Layout%20Staff%2023_zps31mwnmkf.jpg
Staff Directory 2008-2009
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/Staff-2008-2009-03_zpsd0fos5kn.jpg
Staff Directory 2010-2011
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m524/quizzi1/Skyline%20School/Staff-2010-2011-03_zpsflkyomkk.jpg
The layout with the adjacent year’s staff directories makes it pretty clear what most of the room assignments were for 2009-2010. I think it has been verified the room switch between Mathews and Cole took place after the 2009-2010 school year.
I just noticed an oversight. I forgot to add to the image as a change in 2010-2011:
IB Support Staff
IB Coordinator/Math Teacher
Kimla Johnson-Koziuk 106
I do not recall if this person was at skyline in 2009-2010, or if this was a position during that year.
Has anyone ever disclosed the name of the person doing the presenting in the photo blink provided from Ms. Mathews room on the day Kyron disappeared? It was such a good, cool project I was wondering if he was associated with the school?
@TMH says:
October 5, 2016 at 11:02 am
Thanks. Since you mentioned it, did Kyron ever attend the daycare? Do you know if the daycare operators there on June 4, or was it cancelled because of the sci fair? (If Blink is putting this info in her piece, then I’ll just wait for my answer.)
Rose says:
October 5, 2016 at 6:02 pm
Yes, and especially after he had been apparently recently reprimanded for not following someone’s orders. Also, in the photos/videos I’ve seen, Kyron didn’t seem like that shy of a kid to me. It will be interesting to hear Terri’s take on that description of him.
I’ve watched so many tv news-type shows where the parents insist that the child will not open the door for a stranger or go off with a strange man/woman, and then when the actual situation is presented to the child by actors and being video-taped, the parent(s) are in shock that their child did exactly what they thought would never happen. Some of these parents even cried, when they realized how vulnerable their child still was, even after what they had considered as thorough coaching.
For goodness sakes, if a teacher like Matthews, nods her approval, why would ANY child hesitate? In that circumstance, it’s almost like a command, “Yes, Kyron, go help him.”.
OT
There was a Portland City Council meeting night before last, discussing the new police union contract that is being pushed thru by the mayor (it’s not due until June 2017). Things got out of hand when, during a break, some people spoke out about the suspected abuses. When things resumed in the meeting, the mayor brought police teams in, including Homeland Security, and arrested the Don’t Shoot PDX leader, injuring her in the process. Here is a ‘first person’ account of the incident at this link:
https://www.facebook.com/kelly.n.francois/posts/10210654616471956
@TRuth. Looks to me like thefront line individual school project mgr S4S staff there in 2010 have turned over. In fact I don’t see an explicit part of their school site job in tge present day is to do a teaching on the topic in classrooms. It feels like bef has developed curriculum they provide the regular school teacher to transmit. I don’t think Troll was leaping to the defense of BEF or associated with bef. Who reads this site, not bef employees who are touchy. Imo it was someone Very Upset with anyone directing the focus away from Teri and suggesting other possibilities. People overwrought about the suggestion others should be ruled out were Soldier’s platoon and Associates. They were the ones reading suggestions they angrily disagree with here in 2013.
I think Mags makes a reasonable assumption as to how it went down. What doesn’t make sense is why LE didn’t look for this perpetrator, why this never made the news, why the teacher never stepped up, why a description wasn’t released (unless they knew who this was) and why they focused their blame on TH. This is where a tragic mistake jumped the shark into the Bermuda Triangle of the abyss and took Kyron with it.
MBS
In regard to Kyron’s size. If I remember correctly, his height was reported to be 43″ which is very small for his age. Some children grow very slowly in their early years and some are fast. It depends on their genes inherited from the mother and father.
At eight years of age I was 58″ tall having entered first grade at 52″. By the time I graduated eighth grade I was 72″ tall. I had a friend that was in my classes from first grade through high school. He was always short, but he had brothers that were 6 ft or more. He joined the Navy after high school and grew eight inches in six months to reach six feet. We always teased him that his older brothers ate all the food and he didn’t get enough to grow.
If we remember what we learned in biology class about growth, the tall and small genes were always present and the height was dependent on which gene turned on.
@Quissi, thank you. One can infer why Mathews’ K room was changed.
@TRuth. I would expect many 7 yo boys would appear “shy” outside their natural social environment (Portland), and with the severe vision disability, imo direct eye contact, looking at someone directly, is a learned skill for such children. Most infer when a young child does not look at them directly, that he’s shy. Medford was not his natural social environment, however much he loved them, and if he wanted to stay there, he must have felt “on approval” each visit.
@TRuth. Come to think of it, Mathews would never correct publically a mother passionately telling the public K walked out the door with Teri. That would be hanging a sign around her neck shouting “So Sue Me.” Would anyone want to turn Desiree and her insane Soldiers to fixate on themself rather than Teri?
It would be interesting to know if bef has gotten out of the business of sending proj mgr staff directly into their project classrooms to “teach” and explain the project. If so when did the change occur? Why? I remember 2010 proj mgr bios were of recent grads (iirc makes) from places like OSU and OSHU who came from “related fields” (to b- ef), not teachers. Also Kidwind’s model 2010ff was to select current teachers nationwide and train them to be “Senators” to teach their curriculum to peer teachers in hist sites.
kewl, the police & HSA surrounding tge chamber and rushing in were preset and directed by Marshman. Hales merely issued the trigger words.
The swat teams (pps), Gresham police, & federal agents surrounding and locking down City Hall were also not firected by Hales, they were directed by Marshman, or a Homeland Security or FBI commander at the request of Marshman. I woukd not be surprized if Reese/mcso were cooperating team members.
Here is what thus event was. PPB, Mult County, City of Portland, MCSO rejoined tge Joint Terrorism Task For d (a regional LE entity) AFTER Kyron’s kidnapping. That was why Art Balizan was sent to Portland, had his friendly face before the cameras side by side with mcso the first 2 weeks of June. He got the political coup, and retired.
This event was the JTTF’s first high profile preplanned show of force “to restore public order” since the JTTF was reconstituted.
It is an effort imo to consolidate Marshman’s power as he’s a weak Chief.
What is frightening is the failure of Portland’s First Estate to realize this much less cover it from that angle.
altho that fits in with zero print coverage since marshman/reese took office.
Reese’s sole interview was to drop by an apparent friend’s office, Jacquiss, to politic on the ballot measure. keep in mid it wasWW jacquiss who had the pipeline to Riddell and first began the reated articles that drove Staton out of office and Reese in. Staton said Reese told him last winter he planned to seek Sheriff. I bet he told Jacquiss last winter too.
BTW I bet none of that JTTF homeland security police exercise would have happened without Wyden’s preknowledge if not preapproval. I think he’s the 500 lb control the levers of power social system in town. BTW I bet DA signed onto this JTTF enterprize in advance, in fact was on the planning team, and the “jail” is Reese’s and woukd’ve been on prealert.
All Portlanders should be worried about the Marshman (who got the chief job because he’d been the DOAJ/FBI PPB liaison for years), his friend Reese, local fbi field office dir, HSA alliance in the absence of hecks snd balances lije an independent DA. This imo was inituated and led by Marshman is on a social system scale what smacking his stepson around at home indicated.