Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
New York, NY- For nearly five and a half years Terri Horman has refused to speak publicly about her step-sons case. Outside of one assertion of her innocence while on the stand in a name change hearing she ultimately was denied, Horman did not speak to any reporters or answer any of their questions regarding Kyron Hormans disappearance. Until Now.
Horman courtesy of People
Horman was interviewed by People Magazines Elaine Aradillas for both the print and online editions, and will be doing a series of personal interviews over the next week, to include wwww.blinkoncrime.com.
In the brief online video excerpt , the second part to air on ABC’s Good Morning America Friday morning, Horman maintains she is deaf in her left ear, a critical factor in the outcome of her first polygraph.
“… At what point are Kyron’s biological parents going to realize I don’t have the answers, they need to change this thing around…”
“…There is so much the public is not being told about this investigation, that’s why I am doing this- nobody is looking for Kyron…”
Horman’s interview drew sharp reactions from Kaine Horman and Desiree Young, Kyron’s parents.
“…Why is she silent for 5 1/2 years if she is innocent. I want her to tell me where Kyron is. If she is innocent she should call Multnomah County Sheriffs Office and sit down for an interview…”- Desiree Young
“Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI – there will be more of the same coming Friday
We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we’ll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date. To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!
Love you Kyron!!” – Kaine Horman post on his Facebook Page
Christina Stoy, www.blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief was able to confirm with Ms. Horman directly that she has been willing to meet with Kyron’s investigators both previously and in the future with the sole provision that it be conducted in the presence of her Attorney, Portland criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze.
Horman went on to say that investigators with the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office have been well aware of “that” over the last five and a half years and they have never requested an interview. Um, What?
Horman reveals some shocking details about the subsequent polygraphs examinations referenced by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young and other allegations of improper tactics on behalf of MCSO in the second half of her interview to air tomorrow morning on abc’s GMA and on Nightline.
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@ CD
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I think Kyron was probably would have been taken to Washington. The Washington state line was very close to the Skyline area and involving another state with a different states jurisdiction could cause a lot of confusion as to who was on the case. To this day I don’t think there have been a lot of searches for Kyron in southwest Washington which is every bit as heavily wooded with dense underbrush as northwest Oregon. I think if the FBI had led the case then more searches would have been done in Washington. I believe the Sauvie Island suspicions (phone pings or whatever) were a red herring and wasted LE’s time and resources.
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Which is interesting considering Kaines brother who is a convicted sex offender is from WA.
@ Malty. I used to live in Forest Heights and volunteered a ton to do cleanups @ Forest Park. I believe they still do the clean ups with the volunteers so if he or something of relevance was there I honestly believe it would have been discovered by now.
Gotcha’ rose. Thanks for the clarification.
@A Texas Grandfather says:
May 15, 2016 at 5:08 pm
LOL, I didn’t mean use a porta-potty, although they are getting better than they used to be with better venting and little sanitizing sinks, etc. What I meant was I don’t see any reason for huge community style bathrooms, with huge mirrors and with lots of stalls. Why can’t a school bathroom, for instance be individual cubicles designed like porta-pottys, that are not gender specific, with a flushing water urinal, toilet, sanitizing sink etc. One person at a time inside the cubicle. A school, of course would need more than one, plus a handicapped one that would accommodate a wheel chair, but I just don’t understand why a bathroom has to be so *open*, i.e., one room with many stalls.
I don’t think there’s a woman here, who doesn’t know the term “courtesy flush”. Not to mention, if there were lines out the women’s room doors (like their usually are at big events, because women simply take a little longer), a woman could pick any cubicle to go into, just like at outdoor events where they use porta-pottys. Simple non-gender-specific individual bathrooms, that’s what I meant. If that design works well outside, why can’t that design work well inside? IDK, but it would solve this gender-specific problem. Plus one wouldn’t have to worry if once inside, some pervert is lurking in another stall or coming in while one is doing one’s thing. I think this type of set up is more safe.
Heck I’m old and I still, when walking into a bathroom with multiple stalls, walk to the last stall pushing each of the other stall’s open doors on my way to make sure no one is standing on the toilet behind one of the doors. I also never hang my purse on the top hook, always on the bottom one, so my purse can’t be snatched by someone reaching over the door. My mom taught me to do these things when I was young and to this day, I still do it. I’d prefer a single-potty any time.
Blink. I’m a little confused by your response to
“ATexasGrandfather says:
May 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm” ”
I fervently believe this will link to suspect zero.
B”
Do you refer to an antiquated Skyline boys’ restroom or to a structure in a 5 mi radius?
structure/place of convenience.
B
@ATG. yes turnover was high AFTER the abduction.
Mastin went to New Mexico iirc, but on paper he had family reasons.
Imo postabduction turnover was expectable and normal.
@meg says:
May 17, 2016 at 11:41 am
I agree, if Kyron was murdered by his abductor, and just left out in the forest under some brush, there would have been multiple buzzards. (Icky thought, I know, but there would have been.) Everyone in Oregon and Washington(except of course the abductor) was looking for this child…..outside. Outside their homes, in the brush, off-roads, everyone was keeping their eyes open for signs, hunters were looking, etc. No buzzard activity, no sign of anything like that and since then no one has found anything indicating he is even deceased.
So, IMO, he’s either still alive, being held captive inside somewhere, or he’s deceased and his body is inside somewhere, or it was buried in a deep grave (advance planning), or weighted down out in the Columbia somewhere. And since no one has ever reported the smell of human decomposition either, if he were deceased inside someone’s home, seems like the body would have to be put into a freezer or something air tight.
Anywho, I think it’s entirely possible that this child is alive and being held captive somewhere. That’s what KH seems to think, although DY seems to now think he’s deceased. And even LE cannot rule this out. I hope he is alive and found or finds his own way out, like the Cleveland girl did. I’m with you, I don’t think he’s in any place like forest grove that is hiked through, as it is. Who knows, though, with as much time as passed before anyone knew he was even unaccounted for, the child could be anywhere.
“I do fault MCSO for not handing this case over to the FBI when they learned of suspect zero and their SAR expertise was exhausted. B”
Truer words were never spoken.
@Blink. Musing here. Granted SZ had intimate knowledge of the school for that event beyond the internet-available footprint schema.
Imo not Kaine as he was just not active in school life; school appeared to be mother’s “job,” not his.
But at the same time, Soldier inquires as to why Houze would represent he could prove the unknown male last to see thing–but didn’t.
And the truth of the matter is after Houze put his ability to do that forward, Kaine settled.
(Desiree shoukd’ve paid attention there.)
Imo Kaine had Terri over a barrel with mcso/mcda in a collusion before 2 supportive judges from day 1 of the RO. Imo Kaine had NO reason to settle but for Houze’ claimed ability to put on eviddnce re a male last seen with kyron–and the mathews’ exit story.
and imo someone situated as kaine was in the catbird’s seat would not settle due to that alone.
he’d just keep alluding the SZ was allied with Terri.
So to me in that circumstance, a settlement implies some sort
of knowledge of the perp that could in some attenuated manner impugn him.
Kaine believes a man removed Kyron from his school and TMH could not have. To my knowledge he may still publicly believe TMH was involved, but it is my personal opinion that was a settlement position.
B
blink when this case first broke, you caustically
alluded to a guy in the bathroom.
Sticking to that?
Rose – 6 years and a couple dozen cases later I don’t think I can own that effectively without a quote or context, lol.
B
OT https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/school-once-run-by-jane-sanders-plans-to-close-after-expansion-fails-1463427761?client=safari#
as a parent whose son’s college in VT emptied our iras and deeted our future,
and dau’s summer sch near Burlington finishes us off, I am outraged on behalf
of students, staff, & families and frankly hope she is charged & convicted of fraud.
just googke, as I just did, this matter.
iphone, that was “depleted “
Rose says:
May 15, 2016 at 9:49 pm
@ATG.
wrt “There is one thing to remember and that is no one reported Kyron missing until the school bus runs in the afternoon”
You are correct. However that failure to record as absent and call the home was happenstance that an ORGANIZED abductor would not have taken for granted or even anticipated.
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I think that the six or so hours between Kyron going missing and parents /school/authorities becoming aware of his absence is one of the biggest reasons why Kyron has never been found.
Maybe Ms. Porter was somehow mislead into believing Kyrons absence was legitimate by someone unknown to us either by email, or suggestion. How hard would it have been for SZ to obtain Porters school email addy and send an email from a fake mail account on Yahoo or Hotwire. Back in 2010 when teachers got an email supposedly from a parent was there a procedure to verify that in fact a parent sent the email?
The email could be traced to an IP but what if it came from a public place like a library or even from a laptop on display in a computer store. I don’t remember if any of the burner phones had email capability back in 2010.
There are so many things about this case we don’t know it’s hard to speculate on what really may have happened.
meg says:
May 17, 2016 at 11:37 am
@ T.Ruth or Blink-
Blink, does TMH know why LE was back at that school hanging out behind bushes, the first few days? Or was not just some rumor? Surely they didn’t think Kyron’s abductor would be back for another child, and we know they weren’t looking for Terri; they knew where she was. If ture, then who were they monitoring? What if anything did they tell the family about their actions in that regard?
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IMO
I think LE was watching the school because:
They may have thought that SZ was someone associated with the school that took Kyron and and this person was holding Kyron somewhere so they could return to the school that day and the days that followed to avoid suspicion. LE may have surmised that if someone from the school was holding Kyron then they might want to check on him during lunch breaks etc.. to make sure he was still secure.
The other reason could be that SZ left something behind that LE thought he might return to the scene of the crime to get. maybe something in a dumpster or even an abandoned vehicle of some sort. An unaccounted for bicycle or car.
SZ is obviously not identified because LE (via Matthews) should be able to say who he is not; not the male bus drivers, not the male teachers or administrators, not the males on the list, not the legit male vendors, not male family members, not coaches or other males involved in Kyron’s life as all these people should have been vetted, and photos shown to EM and all of the adults and children present in that room, right?
The Skyline school administration did not have good security measures in operation regarding who was in the building and when they arrived. This was lax regarding students who arrived with a parent.
Proper protocol should have been once a child was on the premises, a parent or other authorized adult could not remove them without an exit sign out at the school office. This would have prevented the situation where the teacher had no way to verify absence or a check out.
If such a system was actually in place, then this would IMO make the abduction an inside job with a teacher, aide or person who worked often on the premises and knew they could remove a child to a nearby location and get back to the school without suspicion.
CD
IMO the MCSO people were hanging out behind the bushes for several days after the abduction was not about suspicion of another abduction or any other thing. It was all about overtime money for the officers.
There was no actual leadership that understood all the ways a child could be abducted and they seemed not to care other than deciding that TMH was responsible because she had reported the drug usage.
As staffed and presently staffed at the command and administration level it is my opinion they are a dysfunctional agency.
@Blink.
wrt structure/place of convenience, do you adhere to a 5 mi radius?
if not, what’s yr speculated outer perimeter, travel time-wise?
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I think Kaine using his son’s abduction in any way in a divorce with the woman
who parented him (and doubtless thus ensued his custody vs Desiree) to
leverage his settlement outcomes and obtain sole custody of their daughter is so
morally reprehensible as to be unspeakable. If nothing else it shows what he is
capable of. And his mother & father who supported that tack apparently are capable of.
So looking for the person in the bathroom comment, I went here.
sharing hx misc which struck me.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/07/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-search-intensifies-for-missing-7-yeard-old-portland-boy/
from this thread:
emma69 says: June 12, 2010 at 1:30 pm I am a parent at Skyline (the school Kyron is missing from) and have been devastated by the event and by the complete lack of information about the case from the authorities. Your site has really helped me cope in the last week–thank you. On a side note, I agree (with great hope) that the police know who the responsible person is or may be–I am one of the 10% of the school parents who have not been interviewed by the FBI (although my child has been). If they stopped short of talking to every single parent, they are either completely incompetent, or they know what they need to know and they know the info they need is NOT going to come from people like me. A few things I wanted to offer: The talent show was not a big event, and is historically very poorly attended by parents (not much preparation goes into it, and it is mostly for the kdis). So I would not hold it against the step mother she did not come. Also, I had read something about a single exit at the school. It is not true–the school has mutliple exits, and all doors are open. I hope and pray for Kyron’s safe return. Emma- my heart goes out to you, your family, and your community at this difficult time. I sincerely appreciate your kind words, and welcome to BOC. To clarify, my statement about their being only one way in or out the school, was misconstrued by an innocent poster, I worded it poorly. I meant by vehicle, you enter and exit only one place.
emma69 says: June 12, 2010 at 1:56 pm Blink has asked what the current thinking among the parents is. The truth is–everybody is frustrated with the complete lack of information. And many are confused by why the search is centered around the school, again and again and again. Some parents may know more than others but have been asked not to talk about it to other parents. I am definitely NOT in the know.
emma69 says:
June 12, 2010 at 8:30 pm
The school does have a lot of parent volunteers. I have checked the newsletters and have not seen a request for parent volunteers for this event, though. It does not mean there weren’t any, but at least no explicit request. I do know that LE has looked into volunteers.
I may be naive, but I feel that right now Skyline is the safest place to be anywhere in the US. We are surrounded by news trucks 24/7, there is LE in the school at all times, and everyone is hyper-vigilant. So I don’t think most parents are afraid for their kids. We are just all really concerned about Kyron and about not undertanding how something like th
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MarchmallowWI says: June 12, 2010 at 10:13 pm The following article contains some information about volunteers at Skyline, involved with the Eco-School Network. Also has a photo/name of a custodian. http://www.oregonlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2010/01/with_help_from_portland_eco-sc.html Grants. Inahara wrote grant proposals that brought in not only an AmeriCorps volunteer who focuses on reducing solid waste at the school but also money from Metro, the Oregon Watershed Enhancement Board and the West Multnomah Soil and Water Conservation District for the landscape work. Community help. Inahara got volunteers for the landscaping project from a nearby church, Hands On Greater Portland and two Boy Scout troops. School custodians. “They’ve been saving garbage for us so we can do waste audits,” Inahara says. The school also has competitions to see which classroom can generate the least trash; custodians help track the trash.
Mamabear says: June 13, 2010 at 12:13 pm Statistically speaking, if this was a sexually motivated crime, Kyron was deceased within 3 hours of his disappearance, if transferred to a different location for a crime, within 24. If deceased at the primary crime scene, his remains will be within 200 yards of it, and within 10 yards of the largest tree if buried. If aquatic equipment was used, a launch site would fall under that 200 yards range. The only way I can think of someone would not think that the panic button would have been hit at 9:15am, or within minutes, would be if someone were watching for that occurrance. That said, the date of this bothers me, in that, it is the last scheduled activity for the talent show, where everyone would be at 1PM, and this individual was facing 3 months away from kids, almost as if this was his last chance. If that is the case, than he could have just left with him undetected with the full preperation he would be a suspect. Again, if that is the case, he is a highly organized, repeat offender, imo. B Would be interesting to know the avenue of reporting for absences for the day and who has real time access to that info. It is also my opinion that is why the time that Kyron was marked absent has not been released, it shows us the window benchmark. An accomplice is a possibility, but very doubtful to me, in general, this profile is a loner.
That said, something is sticking with me since then I cannot shake. I found it odd that Tony Young, step dad, addressed Kyron directly, and Dad Kaine addressed the community.
There was alot of grief in that hug, imo.
I think for me it breeds the possibility that there may have been some sort of vendetta or dislike to Kaine or Terri because they also did not go the standard personalization of the victim by the loving parents, which is standard transference tactic when the profile of a perp, imo, is known to them.
ClassyGal says: June 11, 2010 at 9:47 am
Blink replied: From an overwhelming statistical perspective, this baby was the victim of a known offender, for sexual motivation, and the fact that the parents have been accompanied by a deputy 24/7 since it started, tells me they have a suspect, and the parents know who it is as well. B
There is only one way in and out of the school, and there are no cameras.
(Blink later clarified she meant one exit driveway, not doors) The likelihood that this is an employee or volunteer of this school is very high, I am choking myself out of not just coming out and saying “the suspect is the man that has not been on the job since early this week.”
There is no doubt in my mind this child was last seen with the person responsible for his disappearance, and that is the reason that information is being withheld. B
@erose. I’m on your page & right. But we must keep in mind
mcso oersonnel’s abject incompetence which in part
was deference to and fear of Staton who assigned work roles &
promotions whimsically apparently,
as we know in hindsight.
@ATG wrt ”
CD IMO the MCSO people were hanging out behind the bushes for several days after the abduction was not about suspicion of another abduction or any other thing. It was all about overtime money for the officers.”
clapping. imo you nailed it.
I swear, in some ways, it is true. I have a direct witness and former Skyline parent who volunteered her home to be searched (many, many people did) who offered the officers coffee and they said- I love my job, fresh coffee and overtime.
B
Rose
Use Google Earth to locate Skyline. Get your eye elevation at about 25,000 feet. Place Skyline in the center of your screen, then use the ruler set to miles. Run the ruler out to five miles and then rotate it in a circle noting the density of buildings and roads for access. If something interesting is found, zoom in to a lower eye elevation to see more detail. Look for building shadows and use the street view if it is available for the area of interest.
The same process can be used by centering Skyline and then moving the ruler just one mile and working outward a half or full mile to the five mile mark.
To all: not on the above case, and I probably should have recommended this long ago- but if you have not seen “ROOM”, you must.
It is a brutally emotional film and I do know what case it is based on, but it is also some fiction. For me, having studied child predators who abduct at length- I felt the film did a pretty good job at the psych elements.
B
With your talent for identifying people and their residences, you may find the proximity to the school of several people who were working at the time of Kyron’s abduction. Those living in the one to two mile circle would be on my list of additional investigation.
This method would also reveal out buildings near residential structures.
Remember case of the 12 year old that was kidnapped from the school bus stop in Big Bear California. Her step-father witnessed the abduction, but didn’t have a vehicle to chase them. The child was taken to the Bay area West on hwy 50 and kept out of doors in a tent until the abductors broke her down so that she would not escape. Eighteen years later an alert security officer recognized something wrong and rescued her and her children.
I am hopeful that when Blink is able to publish the interview with TMH that there will be some information as to why her son James was sent to live with other relatives. This may provide some clue as to what was happening in the home that could have made Kyron have problems.
Kaine Horman was not able to do what he did regarding the divorce without the help of LE and the family court where a beginner judge was in charge.
This is why I hope kaine will be transferred to Palo Alto where the courts may be less biased and LE will not be a part of the case. Terri may be able to get proper representation and the courts may actually understand that using child advocacy agencies would get to the truth.
Rose, I agree KH’s conduct shows what he is capable of. He threatened DY with the same. He does not want the children of his marital partners to end up in their custody. This is documented past behavior of his. Whether this is a financial motive or control or something else, IDK, but he is motivated to keep the children, or a least not let them have them. (I wonder how he really felt about James moving out of his house?) KH may not have physically taken Kyron from the school, but what does that really mean?
Rose says:
May 17, 2016 at 7:21 pm
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I think Kaine using his son’s abduction in any way in a divorce with the woman who parented him (and doubtless thus ensued his custody vs Desiree) to
leverage his settlement outcomes and obtain sole custody of their daughter is so morally reprehensible as to be unspeakable. If nothing else it shows what he is capable of. And his mother & father who supported that tack apparently are capable of.
@Rose all this organized stuff is just over my head Some people seem organized in some things and completely
Disorganized in other parts of their lives
And the face of the homeless has changed. I worked with a nurse very good nurse one day was shocked to find she lived in her car Hard times have touched many people in many places.
I find it interesting the school was watched As time goes on I find my mind goes to a accident in the school and
Cover up because of funding issues And safety issues. All things are possible Skyline school just seems like sloppy management
@Rose another area with deserted old places is over along forests Or back areas in our coastal areas
I saw your name and Blinks over at the soldiers. And the wonderful jersey LOL. Now I can ignore that place again
The longer you stay away the dumber it sounds Are they doing another search that was my reason for looking
Don’t see an answer
One place we camped one time was the rain forest in WA It seemed spooky I forget exactly where we camped but it seemed the trees touched the ground and very little view. That was yrs ago
http://www.wweek.com/news/2016/05/17/sheriff-dan-staton-ignored-multnomah-county-policy-to-buy-a-new-dodge-charger/
someone internal is telling jacquiss what to request.
Many someone’s I imagine. Is it just me- or am I the only one who wants to know why in that terrain it makes sense for a sheriff to drive a dodge charger? I live in Bucks and I will never drive a sedan again and if I can help it never drive in snow.
B
good page to review of blink comments:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-195/
&see TRuth says:
April 7, 2015 at 1:09 pm
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I have been trying to find, as memory escapes me, the name of the SPED at Skyline in 09-10. He followed Keefer to George. Came to Skyline from Calif, and his focus was “life skills.” meaning a pullout room, not a coteacher in classrooms. However, if K was being worked up by the school, imo he’d done class observations.
He and one of his sped paras (female) were not on the List. The Porter room sub that day replaced the para iirc.
I once suggested the sped employee was likely at a Central iep or an associated job duty. This is a job role with a flexible school in and out schedule imo.
MCSO needed to pin down his obligation that day & his whereabouts to the minute imo. (time of departing school or home; time of arrival at his off campus obligation.)
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anyway, we heard so many parent accolades in 2010 re keefer. But the followup record is unusual imo.
In my experience, respected principals are followed by staff, and they recruit ftom their former teachers. The only Skyline employee following Keefer to George was that male life skills sped employee; no teachers. imo that is rare.
keefer’s staff
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/vernon/779.htm (current)
none from Skyline.
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/george/160.htm (former)
none from Skyline.
It is fascinating this year all the SPED staff @ George have disappeared altogether. including that former Skyline SPED.
I must be in error and hope MBS can find it.
PPS is about 20 years behind all other school districts
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/246924-114159-pps-plan-would-integrate-special-ed
day care is the same as 2010:
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/736.htm
JW was active in pta in 2010ff iirc.
that SPED had started a Skyline Runners Club which disappeared when he went to George.
An interview Q for TMH would be did Kyron participate?
still looking for that Skyline SPED’s name, I found this reflective of PPS Life Skills staff in 2010:
http://ppsequity.org/2010/02/
If, in fact, SZ was familiar with the school, which we all seem to agree upon, then, in my view SZ could very well have known that phone calls to parents were not being made when a child was marked absent, which, in fact they were not, until the Monday after Kyron disappeared and proper procedure began being followed.
If SZ knew this, then that points to either teaching staff (I don’t think a delivery person or lunch staff, would necessarily know this, unless one of their kids went there) administrative staff, or a parent/guardian/sibling of a student, or even a current student or any one of those who attended previously in those regards.
But, we don’t know just how familiar SZ was with that school. Whether or not SZ was familiar with the school’s inner-workings, policies or procedures or whether or not it was simply a matter of having been there once or twice before, isn’t clear to me by a long shot. However I lean to the former, because I also feel this might just have something to do with the inner-workings, re: computer log in data, etc., that LE was looking for, unfortunately too late, that somehow got purged. Suggesting to me, possible knowledge of *the current* policies and procedures, or lack thereof.
cd says:
May 17, 2016 at 5:09 pm LE may have surmised that if someone from the school was holding Kyron then they might want to check on him during lunch breaks etc.. to make sure he was still secure.
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Maybe so, the task force did ask for people who were there or not there right up until noon, IIRC. I thought the timing on that request from the TF was odd, since Kyron disappeared much earlier but something like that might explain it, or as you also said, maybe a vehicle that was there in the morning but not around noon, or vice-versa.
Here’s the letter from the school:
Skyline Families,
Below you will find a message from the Kyron Horman Investigation Task Force. As part of our ongoing effort to cooperate with law enforcement in this matter, we are forwarding it to you and asking for your cooperation.
Regards, Ben Keefer Principal
Members of the Skyline School Community:
One of the many tasks that law enforcement has undertaken in the course of the investigation of the disappearance of Kyron Horman has been to try and determine as definitely as possible the identity of every individual who was on the Skyline School campus at any time between 8:00 am and noon on June 4, 2010. This has proved a more complex endeavor than one might think. Many sources of information have been consulted.
To date, law enforcement has identified 490 people who were present. In order to ensure, as far as is humanly possible, that this is a complete and accurate list, one of the remaining steps we feel is necessary is to share that list with you, the members of the Skyline Community, and ask you to examine it and inform us of:
1. ANY INDIVIDUAL (to include a minor child), other than a Skyline Student, who you have reason to believe was on the campus between 8-12 on June 4 but is not on this list; and 2. ANY INDIVIDUAL who is on the list but who you have reason to believe was not on campus during that time.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9183.0;wap2
Still also, almost 6 years later, scratching my head about why they threw in “(to include a minor child)”, unless it had something to do with Kyron being seen with SZ “and two girls”. (I think that’s what TMH said.) And if that were a true statement, i.e., if someone did see Kyron with SZ and two girls at some point before he disappeared, is this the same man Kyron left Mathews room with, if so, where were the two girls? Or is it possible there were two men working together?
This case just makes me crazy! Round and round and round we go.
yeah- cause he was never ID’d.
B
parsing Blinkspeech:
Do you mean “the man with 2 girls” was never ID’d?
I believe the ref was to the man with 2 young Asian girls in tow- in context (any minors not on the list) has never been id’d positively.
B
wrt ” am I the only one who wants to know why in that terrain it makes sense for a sheriff to drive a dodge charger? ”
He said “parades.”
I’d like to kniw the rules on retirement car buyouts.
I have dropped my phone & the screen shattered. Here less til I solve that problem.
ATG you are too smart for me, but I will try to follow your directions.
Imo tho if this is the organized perp Blink posits, he had a structure outside of the
county & probably State lines an hour away or so.
I agree ATG re James, tho a good mother would not put hus privacy info in her interview.
He could have been acting out for a number of reasons, tho marital conflict where he naturally identified with Kaine & disrespected mother’s directions is most likely.!l
Oh Rose! I feel your pain- I zapped 3 phones in 3 years (and one stolen from my bag at costco- ).
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Maybe SZ had access to the computer attendance system and SZ was the person that purged the data. This tells me that the school data systems were a haphazard conglomeration of programs with no one actually managing them.
If the data was only local and on a hard drive, it was still there. All that was probably needed was to restore the file name and its date to recover the information. If it was partially overwritten, then a magnetic flux change program could have copied the area of the disk and the copy sent to a data recovery company for retrieval. So much for the expertise and thinking of those responsible for investigation-NOT.
Was the man with the two young (how young) Asian girls Asian himself?
Was anyone alert or knowledgeable enough to identify what Asian race the children and man may have belonged to? The Chinese were working a large system of adoption of girls in particular to American parents.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/05/this_is_my_fault_sheriff_dan_s.html#incart_river_mobile_home
Its official. I am done being civil with this guy. What an utter assclown Staton is. How the eff does he think now spending more money to retrofit his “low rider” to support a working deputy- who will need to transport prisoners, and have all the other necessary features, is a reasonable solution to a situation he created?
He didn’t know??? Anyone keeping a count of exactly what this imbecile in a uniform claims to “not know” about so far?
Anyone else notice how friendly he is to the media outlet who does NOT uncover his latest gaffe?
This. Guy.
Lastly- if my child were missing for the 6th year- and this man headed the agency tasked with his investigation, you would have to pry my cold dead hands off the door frame of that charger or his office OR the mens room- wherever I could find him to ask him what impact it has had on finding my child and his plan going forward during his “no confidence” tour funded by Oregonians.
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Wouldn’t that SPED teacher be easily ID’d by Matthews? The man un-ID’d with the girls might have led to the question of the “unknown minors” in the letter to parents. Were those girls students? Does Matthews and others in that room recognize anything about that guy, his shirt, shoes, height, the girls? If a man left with Kyron and the two girls would he be stopped on a BOLO anyway? Did he use the girls for lures and to gain Kyron’s trust? Are those girls endangered and missing?
@Blink. imo there has always been some kind of dementia in play–affecting frontal lobes–judgement, impulsivity,, memory–and I fault 70 year old Skipper big time, but also the Staton suckups (which might or might not include Moore, Shults, Gates, Gulberg, Reiser, and Lindstrand big time), but NOT Yankee. Marshman, Lamb, Eliott.
As for the bios, big puzzle. Did Staton threaten them? The only focus I see common to both is $ signs.
andlikely the neurocognitive damage traces to the meth injury.
I thinkhis family has been in denial.
Is it typical Blink of an LE agency to so threaten parents (who could not have been involved in a disappearance) over say peripheral or historical matters that the parents of a missing child fold em wrt accountability of the investigation?
Not in my experience, no.
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I see you all know about Statons new tax payer car That man is so out of it I couldn’t believe he is still in charge
I just woke from a nap and read that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kyron_Horman
image of girl.
imo not asian hair.
too thick & wavy.
just going by witness accounts and Sam Adams tweet
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Sorry about your iPhone Rose
Hope that problem is soon solved I would be really sad
Staton needs to step down And a medical make up disability SSI
He just is not able to function. I feel sorry about that exposure to meth it
Does lots of damage
And the worst is probably yet to come Up ahead
This Kyron case is so sad Wonder if those two girls were neighbor kids SZ invited to the SF
As a cover. Inside
But they must have left when he did Or with some one else
apparently if he retires before next year’s birthday, he has to pay all of his own hefty health care premium.
What he needs is to document his medical damage from the meth spill, and a fine attorney could’ve sued and settled with the County over some sort of issue: equipment, training, safety policues, or some hook. never too late. as a settlement item he needed to go for full health care premium payments for life.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-71/
Adams’ tweets; pic gone.
erose says:
May 7, 2014 at 2:56 pm
TWEETS
newsatfive says: October 6, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Sam Adams posted links to “help find Kyron” articles and websites early on (total of three tweets on June 6 and June 8). Except for those six tweets, nothing else.
(twitter.com/MayorSamAdams):
and
T. Ruth says:
May 7, 2014 at 3:09 pm
Following were the mayors tweets re: Kyron provided by a poster on BOC, Satori: (caution: had to use the cached link, as the other sends one to viagra land)
Laughing about the Charger auto. Chrysler, Ford and GM make vehicles for LE as patrol cars. The beefed up Ford Fairlane or the Mercury sedans were the standard for many years due to physical size. That vehicle is no longer being manufactured. All current sedans, including Cadillac and Lincoln have been reduced in size to the point that they are simply unusable. I regard them affectionately as cars one “puts on” rather than gets into.
This leaves the larger SUVs or a pickup truck as the only vehicle suitable for large people or those who desire to be comfortable. Some LE agencies are buying this type of vehicle. They are not standard off-the-line builds, but are modified to meet LE requirements.
Bought a Ford Edge to replace Mrs. ATG’s Mercury LS. Plenty of head room and I don’t have to bend double to get into it.
If we didn’t have the federal government mandating mileage standards, the reduction in size would not happen. Gas mileage is based on Ton miles per gallon. An 1800 lb. vehicle and one at 4200 lbs. cannot get the same mileage. If the mileage of the lighter 1800 lb. is not 2.3 times that of the 4200 lb. vehicle, the heavier vehicle is more fuel efficient. So much for a bunch of bureaucrats who don’t know how things work.
Staton is showing his narcissist behavior with the Charger auto. He has to be recognized at “The Boss” even when driving down the street.
Suggest getting a lanyard to attach the phones to the body. Helps with
thefts too.
Rose, maybe an I-pad or a similar size device could be more stable. My Polish friend Jo Anna uses that size. She uses it mostly for her phone and in particular when using Skype to call her parents in Poland.
In my opinion “I take full responsibility” does not line up right with “I wasn’t aware,” “I should have looked more carefully at what was happening,” or “my office” did this or that. WHOSE office did you say it was? FULL responsibility does not come with a “but”, an “except”, or any other qualifier – in my book.
Referring to Staton’s statements, of course, but I think it’s true for anyone. And if he calls me, I’ll take full responsibility for this post!
Has the thumping and bumping under the houseboat where the dogs caught a scent – has that been totally discounted? Why? I understood the person who lived there was related to someone at Skyline.
T. Ruth says: May 17, 2016 at 1:07 pm
@meg says: May 17, 2016 at 11:41 am
I agree, if Kyron was murdered by his abductor,
If that is what was reported by Oakes he has zero credibility by anyone in this case. We are aware of the familial connection to Tanner Pumala.
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o/t Rose, I feel ya. We had an iphone end up in the washer last week.
wrt Asian girl, could it be Jamie Mejia as some speculated before? So weird that Portland had two more missing kids around the same time Kyron went missing. Always has bugged me. I would guess Elsy took the kids out of the country since they are still missing. But why?
https://www.google.com/search?q=elsy+mejia+sanchez&rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS531US606&espv=2&biw=1242&bih=606&tbm=isch&imgil=Z1X2b5ar4F_mzM%253A%253BIJBimtbpi9oeOM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fpsychiccrimefighter.com%25252Fforum%25252Fthread%25252F941%25252Fjamie-mejia-ubaldo-sanchez-mejia-family-abduction-5-19-2010-portland-oregon%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=Z1X2b5ar4F_mzM%253A%252CIJBimtbpi9oeOM%252C_&usg=__KpeBptN0kx1gIaOamIHh21l27JI%3D&ved=0ahUKEwic_I7OmOfMAhXJzIMKHdtCA_0QyjcIMA&ei=zT4-V9xhyZmPBNuFjegP#imgrc=Z1X2b5ar4F_mzM%3A